/vr/ - Retro Games

>8032048
>If you guys could go back and revitalise one racing game, which game would you choose and what changes/improvements would you make to it?
The one on the op pick.
Besides just QoL things like widescreen, i'd add properly animated cockpit and tried to make AI more agressive, if not better.

Didn't even realise we'd hit the time limit.

>>8032173
Nah, thread just sunk.

>>8032182
Because of /vr/'s 2 week time limit.

>>8032164
That's quite interesting, I think most racing games would get an AI adjustment these days.
Given the current flurry of RPG remasters, what would your reaction be if a company decided to remaster racing games? Obviously it would be dependent on the game, but could the add/improve enough to the point that you'd be tempted to re-buy it?

>>8032282
I'd most likely be not that excited. Examples for remastered racing games so far were Moto Racer 15th anniversary edition and Colin McRae Rally Remastered, and both were ports from smartphones.
But if some were coming, i'd hope for unchanged graphics, just resolution/FOV/draw distance adjustments, fixes to AI if necessary and ironed out collision bugs. Lots of older racers could use proper replay features.

Anybody here play Grand Prix Legends?
I played the 2020 Demo, but how do i get new tracks and cars, all of this mod shit is complicated too much.

>>8032161
>Have a N.I.C.E. day!
My uncle worked on this and N.I.C.E. 2 at Synetic :)

>>8032691
Tell your uncle that he's done a great job, anon.
I especially liked the credits in Have a N.I.C.E. Day, stylized cartoon with a glimpse of the euro dev studio work at the time.
Did he shared any stories? Have any material like concept art and cut content?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br4t6qpfGco

>>8032689
honestly anon, I recommend getting assetto corsa and downloading mods. I love GP legends but getting it to work properly is a nightmare at times.

NFSU isn't so hard when one isn't playing at 480i on a 20" crt in 2003. I'm a big advocate of high resolution gaming in general but being able to fucking see that pesky traffic coming when roaring down the road makes it a lot easier to avoid (as opposed to a slightly yellow blur of pixels next to the slightly green blur of pixels that is a roadside billboard).

>>8032992
I love the Mafia 1 low poly-realistic texture aesthetic too much though, and Assetto Corsa has it's own problems

Asked this before the last thread ended, but is the first Gran Turismo especially difficult for anyone else? It feels like there's a massive gulf in difficulty between the Sunday Cup and every other championship.

>>8033747
lrn2 racing lines basically. All races in GT1 have the a.i follow the perfect racing line and the clubman cup isn't much of a jump over the sunday cup.

>>8033747
You'll notice that there are a few cups which seem to be significant steps up in difficulty.
Don't be surprised if you need to repeat a few of the cups in order to get enough funds to upgrade your car.
Overall I did find the RWD cars more manageable than 4WD cars in terms of winning races, although high powered RWD cars can still get loose easily.

>>8033747
I'll have to revisit GT1 sometime, but what I vague remember from the last time playing it many years ago is that I couldn't get to grips at all with the handling model compared to GT2 which in contrast is one of my favorite video games of all time. Maybe next time I'll have an easier time getting into it, because I really wish I could like both of them.

>>8032164
OpenGT2 PC port with adjusted/adjustable AI skill, more tuning options and a more expansive event synthesizer where for example you could select courses yourself (also backwards and/or mirrored) or select the AI cars from the ones in your own garage, essentially allowing you to create your own racing series. Potentially also netcode for P2P online play.

>>8035257
Given GT is - unsurprisingly - full of 90's 4WD where understeer was a common issue they are much harder to drive in the first two games than later ones. FF cars become an animal to drive once you start slapping turbos on them so overall the FR cars with a bit of caressing for the monsters are the easiest to drive. Once you bind accelerate to the right analog they becomes so much easier to tame.

>>8034573
>All races in GT1 have the a.i follow the perfect racing line
That makes sense. I played Tourist Trophy without lines, and the AI gives you a lot of opportunities to improve on their laps.
>>8035257
>Don't be surprised if you need to repeat a few of the cups in order to get enough funds to upgrade your car.
Now I remember how I was able to get further when playing this game as a kid. Get enough money to buy the GTO Twin Turbo, then brute force my way past everyone else thanks to horsepower alone.

>>8035383
The most efficient start for GT1 is used RX7 -> viper (get racing mod) -> castrol supra GT. That covers the most amount of races with the fewest cars that are top tier.

>>8035380
I find 4WDs much easier to drive than FRs in the first two games, besides the sluggish turning (be it due to the drivetrain layout or the generally higher weight). At least they don't spin the wheels at any speed below 80 mph like tuned up FRs do.

>>8035383
hah same, i also always went for the gto as a kid, the fto wasn't bad either

>>8035383
>>8035428
Never liked the GTO, it's really really heavy even for a 4WD car. You can race it, but at what cost?

>>8035434
The raw straight line speed and acceleration makes it a monster for the average player. Being able to plant your foot and go whizzing by the pack down the straight is always a great feeling.

For anyone wanting to test their skills, there is a GT1 leaderboard from RetroAchievements that lists the fastest times for each Class in Arcade mode using the stock Arcade cars. I will try and copy paste the times here for people to see

>>8035459
All of the below would be 2 lap Time Trial races in Arcade mode using the stock Arcade cars.

High Speed Ring A
suXin 0:01:33.69

High Speed Ring B
Nabas6545 0:01:47.30

High Speed Ring C
ggodeny1 0:01:49.69

Trial Mountain A
ggodeny1 0:02:15.71

Trial Mountain B
ggodeny1 0:02:31.56

Trial Mountain C
ggodeny1 0:02:34.22

Grand Valley East A
ggodeny1 0:01:44.44

Grand Valley East B
ggodeny1 0:01:58.16

Grand Valley East C
ggodeny1 0:02:01.18

Clubman Stage R5 A
ggodeny1 0:01:22.43

Clubman Stage R5 B
ggodeny1 0:01:33.46

Clubman Stage R5 C
ggodeny1 0:01:35.64

Autumn Ring A
ggodeny1 0:02:00.86

Autumn Ring B
ggodeny1 0:02:12.82

Autumn Ring C
CalebJacksonBirtles 0:02:15.70

Deep Forest A
ggodeny1 0:01:59.90

Deep Forest B
ggodeny1 0:02:13.92

Deep Forest C
ggodeny1 0:02:16.91

Special Stage R5 A
ggodeny1 0:02:11.39

Special Stage R5 B
ggodeny1 0:02:28.10

Special Stage R5 C
ggodeny1 0:02:35.14

Grand Valley A
ggodeny1 0:02:59.28

Grand Valley B
ggodeny1 0:03:21.21

Grand Valley C
ggodeny1 0:03:29.67

>>8032689
installing mods is pretty easy, theres a launcher you need to use to make them work tho, heres a detailed guide

http://www.gplworld.de/en/grand-prix-legends/gpl-easy-installation-guide

>>8035638
They are asking for original tracks, which i don't have, i tried looking them up in the track database, but some links are dead, ie. Monaco

I'm going to wait for a torrent of the original game to download and follow that guide
Already got GEM+ and IGOR running though
How do i resize the window of GEM+?
It's too tall for 1080p

>>8035465
Oooh this looks fun.

>>8036119
just get the og game on myabandonware and continue from there

>>8035465
nice
this is what that GT challenge from a few months ago should have been about

>>8036273
>>8038976
I think the best cars to use are the Viper (GTS or RT/10, user preference) for A Class, Toyota Soarer or Mitsubishi Eclipse for B Class, and the Honda Civic for C Class.
Most of those times look pretty tough to beat though, hopefully /vroom/ has some Gran Turismo gods that can knock a few of them off.

>>8039147
I want to give it a shot. Shame it's on 1.

>>8035383
Used to love my GTO, looked similar to your pic except in silver and with the stock hoop spoiler that the 2nd Gen's came with.
Would love to one day own a 3rd Gen, but they're super rare and I've only ever seen 1 in real life.

>>8032161
GP Laps released a full fledged tutorial to Install and Config IndyCar Racing 2/CART Racing on PC with wheels and everything else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHj6sgy52Y

>>8040265
I can have a scan through of the rest of the racing games on the site and see if they have leaderboards for any others. I know they don't have any for GT2, but they may have some for Arcade racers. Pretty sure I saw some for the original Ridge Racer, so I could post those.
There's probably a much easier way, like having a google doc that connects to the RetroAchievements API which could automatically refresh leaderboard data, but I'm not intelligent enough to know how go about building something like that.

bumperino also the pastebin kinda needs grand prix trilogy

>>8042416
Don't bump other people's bumpers. Race clean.

>>8042429
no

>>8042429
mo

>>8042429
rubbing is racing

What exactly is the point of the pastebin?
I mean you can just google retro racing games

What is that japanese only racing game on the PS1 that everyone always posts in low-poly threads? I feel like it had something to do with seasons. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>8035401
Which Viper?

>>8046857
GTS.

>>8046802
dunno but that description makes me think sidebyside 2000

anyone here into toca games? ive been playing through toca race driver 2 on xbox and its really nice, gonna do 3 after

>>8047616
TOCA 3 as in TOCA World Touring Cars? Or do you mean TOCA Race Driver 3?
Used to love TOCA World Touring Cars, although I understand it to be more casual that the previous installment. Tons of races and championships, huge amount of cars, fun cheats which you can stack for ultimate carnage.

>>8047614
This game looks pretty soulful but I don't think that's it. I remember prettier, more Japanese backgrounds and the cars looked more like Nascar cars

>>8047707
race drivers

>>8047951
not burning road?