/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8024671
It probably is although for me ff7 comes close. Ff4, ff6, and ff7 are the only games with a good and coherent story. Ff4 is too basic though.

For me ff6 and ff7 are tied for top place. Ff5 and ff8 should also be visited for their gameplay

>>8024671
pretty fun game. maybe not best ever but pretty damn good.

>>8024671
>heavy focus on story and mood
>poorly designed gameplay where, about 25% into the game, you get so many different ways to customize your characters they all end up playing the same
>nonexistant difficulty
It's more of an experience than a game.

>>8024713
I like you, anon

I think it’s the best jrpg (CT close second) but I don’t know about playing the gba version. I know it has extra content but I heard you need to use the sound patch for the best experience because the original gba soundtrack is inferior.

play it without using espers

>>8024671
Sons of Sandworms/Submariners
Female Furries
Bells
Frogs
Tonberries
Pages from a self help book
Relm's titties
SEPHIROTH

>>8024671
>What am I in for?
a good game that would be better if you played the snes version

Why not just play the SNES original instead of a port

>>8024860
More content and more accurate script

>>8024901
how is the script more accurate

>>8024970
Better translation. Matches the original japanese script more accurately.

>>8024970
Translator's Japanese was better, he didn't have to rush through it at massive speed, he was already familiar with the game and its script long before starting the translation, he had access to online dictionaries and reference guides so he could actually look stuff up instead of having to guesslate what he didn't understand or recognize...

I played FFVI Advance recently on a GB Micro after a lifetime of the SNES original and it's not bad. Opera scene sounded a bit off but otherwise it was alright. Don't see the point of these restoration patches, just play the game on its original format. The extra content adds nothing of real value to the experience.

Wasn't this translated by goons?
>>8024970
Tomato says GBA script is better, I'll take his word for it.
https://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/summary/

>>8025034
>Wasn't this translated by goons?
No, that was FF4 Advance

>>8024671
I haven't gotten around to playing IV, V, or VI yet though I think I'm gonna wait for the pixel remasters and see what's everyone's consensus on them. Maybe they'll be the definite versions.

>>8024671
You fucked up.
Play the Woolsey translation, it has so much heart.

>>8025070
Said literally nobody that didn't get first exposed to the game through that particular translation as a kid.

>>8024901
dumb reasons IMO
there's nothing about FFVI's story that's so bad that some dialog tweaks and refinement is going to make a big difference. It's two alternatives of mediocre people only pretend to prefer one over the other. None of the ability names or item names or anything like that are confusing or misleading and using all the modern reddit names for shit makes you look gay.

Maybe the bonus content is worth it, I'll admit I haven't played any of it. But my experience with bonus content in remakes is that they're almost always soulless and not worth it. FFVI might be the lone exception I don't know.

>>8024671
>Final Fantasy VI Advance
>What am I in for?
An inferior experience

>>8025113
>using all the modern reddit names for shit makes you look gay
>calls it FF6

>>8025113
>dumb reasons
>except the one I have no familiarity with
ok anon, do you just argue for the sake of it? Why are you even posting?
and no one said the script was bad originally. just that this one was more accurate. Do you want to play the script closer to the original? Play GBA. Do you want to play the one with the epic maymay lines? Play SNES. It doesn't fucking matter. Who cares.

Woolsey fanboys come across as literal cultist, holy shit. Why is it so hard for them to understand that their massive fondness for the specific wording in the verion they played when they were 8 has a lot to do with the fact that they were 8, and that someone that played another version at that age would have the same fondness for that? It's fucking translations of a game that wasn't originally in English, the writing in one specific translation isn't some sort of inherent "soul of the game".

Isn't there a romhack that puts the gba translation in the snes version?

>>8024671
Why would you inject GBA FF6 when you can just play the original in an emulator?

>>8025210
More content and more accurate script

>>8025269
One particular piece of content that absolutely ruins the experience is how the final boss aesthetics are handled. The music is botched in an unforgivable manner.

>>8025139
it's funny cause woolsey admits that his work was always rushed (usually 30 day deadlines) and hampered by NOA censorship. yet woolseybabbys suck his cock and act like his work was perfection

A great 1st half.
A decent 2nd half.

>>8024671
Why would you not play the SNES version?
What the fuck...
Your music is going to sound so fucked up

>>8024774
>>8025417
this, the sound is really bad in the gba version

>>8024671
The best JRPG ever made. Your coworker is based. Have fun!

>>8024671
It's not the best JRPG ever made. The gameplay is pretty crap, frankly. If you can get into the story it's worth it though.

>>8025616
>The gameplay is pretty crap, frankly. If you can get into the story it's worth it though
No offense but can't the same be said about every non-action JRPG ever?

>>8024671
>Final Fantasy VI Advance (with a SNES color patch) onto my 3DS
absolutely haram

>>8024990
there's a hack to add the gba-script to snes.
>>8025190
yes

>>8024671

A low-quality 4chan thread that spoils some things and makes you feel worse about the cool game you are going to play

>>8024774
>>8024858
>>8025030
>>8025279
>>8025543
>>8025891

OP here, forgot to metion that the version I'm using has a color AND sound patch.

>>8024671
Just play like a man instead of asking people to spoil yourself the game.

>>8025974
>downloading prepatched roms instead of patching it yourself

Anon what are you doing. You don't even know what old versions of the patches is being used here, and it's usually the first released versions missing further fixes.

>>8025974
>The opera songs are now sung by true opera soloists, and the major part of the opera tunes are played by Tokio's orchestra.
but why?

>>8025642
FF5 is like the antithesis to that statement

Great game, GBA version is inferior though. It's easy so don't grind at all, I run from most battles when I replay now.

>>8024671
I can't enjoy something unless somebody tells me how I should feel about it first.

>>8024671
big cast of characters that never get developed, very basic and easy combat system that never really pushes you to play around with it, under developed ability system and a generic over world. It's babby's first RPG and the only people who swear up and down are the ones that lie about the PS1 version having load times every few seconds.

>>8025974
>>8026013
If possible, patch it without the orchestrated opera scene OP. The original orchestrated recording that's used for the patch is nice on its own, but to make it match the scene and the old music the creator of the patch has cut it up and spliced it together. The worst part is that the aria is pitched down several notes to match the original and sounds terrible, like playing a gramophone on too low speed.

>>8024671
Snes version has MUCH better music.

>>8025994
>Anon what are you doing. You don't even know what old versions of the patches is being used here,
Yes you do you fucking dunce, they're right there in the picture. You can just check.

>>8025974
The sound patch isn't perfect. Atma Weapon's battle theme is still terrible for example.

>>8025642
FFVI's gameplay isn't very good even by the standards of a JRPG. Every character feels by the end because "character building" options are limited to just learning magic, which everyone can learn without restrictions.

>>8026517
*feels the same

>>8024671
You're in for other people sperging out that you're playing the advance version even though it has more content just because the music is slightly less good and they'll handwave the extra content by saying "Uhh, it's bad, okay? It's just bad, now shut up."

>>8025974
doesn't change the level of haramness

>>8026553
>they'll handwave the extra content by saying "Uhh, it's bad, okay?
They're not wrong.

>>8027605
But it's content. Even if you don't like it, as long as it's optional, then there's nothing wrong with putting it in. I actually liked the Dragon's Den. I'm not sure why people hate it, they just say that it's bad and leave it at that.

>>8024671
>What am I in for?
A good JRPG that really isn't any better than any of the other Final Fantasy games. It's good. It's also vastly overrated. People talk like if you die without playing it, you haven't even lived, but it's simply not that impressive.

>>8024671
A game that is not the best JRPG ever made.
Imagine thinking that when Dragon Quest V exists.

>>8025974
Why couldn't you just download the SNES version on your 3DS? You DO have the 'New™' model, right?

>>8025974
Do those patches even work with the Japanese version?

>how is the script more accurate?

>>8024990
>it's better
>>8024996
>it's better
>>8024996
Tomato says it's better

Again, how is it more accurate?
I can remember one specific example.
When you first meet Setzer, in the Woolsey translation he says "The Empire has made me a rich man"
The original Japanese is more like "The Empire has been bad for business"
I don't think it makes a huge difference either way. In fact I like the idea that Setzer would throw away a lucrative relationship with the Empire over a (rigged) coin toss.

Provide specific examples of translation differences that cause you to prefer the GBA script.

>>8031045
>Tomato says it's better
Correct. Here's his breakdown:
https://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/

Tell me someone that likes Esper Terra and isn't a tranny.

I'm not trying to derail the thread, I seriously want to see if I'm right because it's really weird how that always happens. Not even just furries...

>>8031165
Sevenleaf comes to mind... that Tranny literally said Terra made him realize he was Trans.

>>8031167
I know right? Is there something about her that attracts them? I would think "My body is changing into something I don't want or understand, and everyone else is acting like it's no big deal or even good" is the sort of thing that would drive them away.

But it's not like I know exactly.

Anyway OP, inject the SNES version with the Ted Woolsey Remastered and Gau's Learnable Rages patch, then you'll have the original colors and sound. If you had a device that could run the MSU-1 chip (that is, a new version of bsnes or snes9x) I'd also suggest Dancing Mad, which injects the CD-quality chiptunes.

>>8024819
>Pages from a self help book
Isn't that FF5?

>>8024713
i see you're a man of exquisite tastes.

6 and 7 are masterpieces. but any game from 3-9 are classics. after 9 i wasn't sure why it was called final fantasy anymore.

>>8024671

>What am I in for?

the best JRPG ever made - if you don't ruin it with guides

>>8024671
You are in for a long story with lots of characters and really good music. not much of a game though; it's pretty easy.

>>8024727
>Give everyone Ultima materia
>Use Ultima as only attack
>Steamroll through rest of game and final boss

>>8024996
And yet it still manages to be worse than Woolsey's. That's talent

>>8024671

Incredible game. You better get a fix for the GBA audio, otherwise you're missing out on the original soundtrack.

>>8036959
>You better get a fix for the GBA audio
Doesn't exist; there's just a patch to make it less bad

>>8024713
>FF7
>Coherent story
You must not read very much if you think that story is coherent

>>8024671
A good first half and a shitty second half

>>8031078
Reading through that, it looks like everything more accurate about the GBA version amounts to nitpicks that are curious and interesting but have absolutely zero impact on my understanding of the game or its story.

Some line about Narshe's strength relative to the empire and which group of troops are after Terra isn't perfectly accurate, but also doesn't convey anything that wasn't easily-observable truth from visuals and context. THIS is the big improvement we're talking about? fucking lol.

Oh no, a line where Edgar is explicitly described as hitting on lolis and grannies is replaced with something more generic. As if this was some critical piece of information about Edgar's character that totally changes everything. The only thing I don't like about the SNES version is the girl's apparent attitude but the other translations just have no personality at all, like you aren't even talking to a character, just reading a blurb from a bio.

>>8038710
>Ok its more accurate but that doesn't make it better
>why?
>It-It just isn't ok?

>>8024671
Worst quality soundtrack, it's really stupid to choose GBA over SNES.

>>8031170
>>8031167
>>8031165
Every one of you are getting a warning at minimum. BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT TRANNY!

Both the SNES and GBA versions have their charms. Just don't go for the cancerous mobile port.

>>8038725
It's not remotely worth sacrificing something like superior sound quality.

>>8039406
The hit to soundtrack is noticeable, but still not as bad as you're making it out to be. It's like the difference between FM synth and PC speaker, not the difference between MIDI and PC speaker.

>>8031835
Both.

>>8024713
We are two of soul.

>>8039527
Yeah and the difference to the script is not as big as you are making it out to be. GBA also has a worse resolution.

The FFVI GBA is not as bad as the embarrassing FFIV port, but I'll take the better sound and resolution any day over a handful of tiny irrelevant dialog tweaks.

>>8038725
Stockholm syndrome, people here throw a tantrum as soon as somebody uses the name Tina.

>>8040628
>Yeah and the difference to the script is not as big as you are making it out to be.
Fair enough.
>>8040628
>GBA also has a worse resolution.
I didn't even notice until someone pointed it out. Now I think you're just reaching.

>>8040749
>I didn't even notice until someone pointed it out.
The GBA is full of SNES ports and every one of them has screen crunch. I guess it's less of a big deal for RPGs, but even so, how do you not notice that?

>>8040749
>I didn't even notice until someone pointed it out. Now I think you're just reaching.
are you legally blind?

>>8039527
>It's like the difference between FM synth and PC speaker
FM Synth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBJIl_naY8

PC Speaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOL4q5tDDQ

>>8041715
Youtube doesn't work on my browser anymore, unfortunately.

>>8041324
>are you legally blind?
My eyesight has gotten markedly worse in the last 6 to 8 months, but no- I've never noticed shit like aspect ratio changes right away. Call it a peculiarity of biology or what-have-you.

>>8042128
not noticing graphics and text being squished from 256 x 224 (snes) to 240x160 (gba) is grim.

>>8032002
10 absolutely dips into the elements and lore of the franchise. It makes them part of the world too. It just tried to step more into world making and an overall story than worrying about the themes. The Ronso joking about giving Yuna a statue with a big horn on her head was great.

10 is certainly not like the previous FF games, but at least it didn't shy away from it. Lulu is called a black mage, characters have conversations about learning magics and fighting monsters. What weapons people use are discussed. It very much feels like the end of the FF series to me though. Especially since 11 is an MMO, 12 is spun off tactics and 13 is hot garbage. xs0s

>>8043620
11 and 12 still intrigued me. 13 is literally every moment from nuFantasy but done worse. RABtoons called that shit.