/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8017509
=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 2.0 >>8003328
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8003105

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed): >>7967424
Submissions closed, voting TBA

=== NEWS ===
[8-06] .md2 importing tool for Blender
https://twitter.com/JoshuaSkelly/status/1423672434331295748

[8-04] Summer Fun Anon releases a demo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u7wwd30oawggfm0/Summer_Fun-Demo.zip?dl=1

[8-04] Xim's gzDoom3 for Classic Doom released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72960

[8-03] DN3DooM has been updated.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67864

[8-01] DBP 38 is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2218/chronicles-ghost-town

[7-30] Vomitoreum released on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549750/Vomitoreum/

[7-29] Grim Borough released (for chasm: The Rift)
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/grim-borough-for-chasm-the-rift

[7-29] Anon's MIDI Pack updated to v5
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bcgxwt25qm151xx

[7-27] Tasyspleen TS500 (Q2 FFA), July 31st
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1420068100335185921

[7-26] Retroquad 0.6.6 release
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419811121603698688

[7-26] KMQuake 2 test build, feedback wanted
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4098/new-kmq2-test-version

[7-26] Doomkid Vanilla Wad Pack Revision XII
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2356798

[7-25] DoomWare (like the TF2 plugin) (for Zandronum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiBYVOPxdI

[7-25] GZDoom 4.6.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72879

[7-25] Dread (Amiga 500 Doom Clone) Ep. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fQw1W22i8

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>>8017509
Shake it baby!

>>8017509
So it didn't gain much traction since I posted right around the time the last thread wrapped up, so I'll ask again here: what are some worthwhile cyberpunk-themed WADS. I know about AUGER;ZENITH, and someone mentioned Diabolus Ex, but what else is out there?

I'm still at this shit, I think this is headed in a good direction

Arcane Dimensions good


Quake 1.5 bad

>>8017557

I really like the detail of the sword being sheathed when it's not equipped, I don't know why

>>8017575
Quake vanilla good

Arcane Dimensions meh

>>8017575
1.5 would have been drastically better if it used FTE over Memeplaces. DP just feels awful regardless of how pretty it looks.

>>8017525
There's a project led by 40oz where two mappers were paired up per slot. Ribbiks is one of them. It got a cacoward or nomination or something. Can't remember the name, who can?

>>8017614
Mutiny (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/mutiny))

>>8017512
Skulltiverse is now on idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/skulltiverse

>>8017627
Shit, already? Felt like hellevator just came out
Gonna blast through this with demonsteele

>>8017629
Correction, I am NOT blasting through this with demonsteele because every map completes on entry when I play it with that.

>>8017632
Lol. Does it give you all Keys ir something?

>>8017634
My guess is it's breaking some voodoo scripting or whatever hackery you used to get these portals to work. It's all good. Vanilla is fine too.

shiny vaseline doom

>>8017659
Materials for vanilla textures? Where?

>>8017617
This is one of my favorites.

his final moments

>>8017632
>>8017634
>>8017650
Demonsteele gives you a thinner hitbox, yes, to let you maneuver much more in combat. There is a way to fix this though, someone made a patch for Hideous Destructor which detects VooDoo dolls and replaces them or gives them the appropriate hitbox, so that some maps won't break.

>>8017650
I guess that would happen if it makes player smaller.

>>8017692
why does the toxic waste look like that?

>>8017587
Pic related

>>8017598
Have not played q1.5 yet, but it still looks worth a playthrough. I'll get to it eventually...

>>8017416
>searched doom 3 xbox coop
>found a walkthrough recorded on VHS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azzNXPb7GBA
This is comfy as heck

Gimmick idea for a Boom mapset: replace all key sprites with a same sprite (some kind of collectable object, maybe a briefcase or a bomb), require six keys to open exit door on every level, no colored doors on level.

>>8017581
Dynamic sprites are cool.

I just finished Dusk.
Now I'm not sure if I should start Unreal or Half Life next. After both of those, I will be more or less done with the major 90s fps games. The base games, at least.

>>8017793
Actually that isn't true at all. I still need to play Marathon.

>>8017796
Oh, don't worry, Marathon ain't major at all.

The Master levels for Doom 2 make TNT Evilution's level design look like high art in comparison

>>8017659
Specularity too high

Been playing Whitemare 2 and noticed damaging floors don't work on Gzdoom for that wad specific wad. Tried it on PrBoom+ and it works fine, any ideas why?

>>8017739
Quake vanilla maps just have more interesting and less repetitive encounter design and they're not too long so they're fun to replay. I'm not biased against user-made content, in fact I love user made maps such as Metal Monstrosity and czg03.

Any good old hexen wads? Before 2009.

>>8017879
Are you playing it with final doomer? If so, thermocoat gives you damage floor protection if you charge it to like 1/3 full or whenever you get subtle piss filter on your screen.

>>8017884
Ahhhh, yes I am. Thanks for clearing that up for me

>>8017598
>DP just feels awful
Why?

When is Ashes Afterglow coming out? I've been waiting so long.

>>8017893
Also, try reloading your guns.

>>8017928
I know they give short descriptions of the weapons but I forgot about the suit because I never use it.

why are colors in prboom so washed out and brighter in pallete compared to glboom and even crispy doom? Can I fix it?
Also, I can't run Augur Zenith in crispy doom, it says the scrolling linedefs exceed the limit, I thought crispy is limit removing. I am probably retarded so please could someone help?

>>8017934
Check your gamma settings.

>>8017882
Fair enough. I too love short and sweet maps and interesting concepts - i've played through most of the speed mapping jam packs on quaddicted/func_msgboard and loved a great deal of them. That said, AD absolutely floors me in that they've made (to my mind) large, detailed and beautiful maps while retaining the quake look, feel, and flow. The largeness of the maps doesn't bother me at all since they flow so well, i'd almost consider some of them akin to a shorter ID1 style episode in content, simply not broken up into multiple bsps.
Also, I can't think of any enemy/weapon changes which i dislike (off the top of my head). My main complaint is i want more AD content.

>>8017934
>>8017936
ya that gamma looks fucked

>>8017934
Press f11.

>>8017936
>>8017946
>>8017965
thanks bros, must have pressed it sometime ago in a dark level and forgot
How about that crispy? The readme said they tested it in crispy and the newest version doesnt play the first map for me

>>8017692
if you're gonna use a health bar mod use targetspy not the shitty one that comes with the hud addons pack

>>8017974
targetspy is the shitty one for me

>>8017969
Are you sure you're playing in Crispy? Can always download the latest version. Woof is a nice port too.

>>8017509
Has anyone actually played Cybie's colonoscopy?

>>8017969
Don't know man, the readme says it won't work with non-Boom ports
Crispy is -cl2, Going Down is -cl9 so idk

>>8017882
You might enjoy copper mod maps too though.

>>8017883
Was there much of Hexen wads before 2010 at all?

>>8018035
Yes. It's fun.

>>8018056
>blaxploitation dimensions
>secret zoomers

>>8017617
Seconding this. Very good wad, that gathered shitload pro mappers into one project.

>>8018056
>optional genital pain
lol

>>8018056
>mappers obvious revenants
I knew it.

>>8018084

>>8018060
Not him, but copper doesn't sit right with me. Looking at the feature list i like the sound of it, but i find some of the behavior mods kind of frustrating in practice. For example, the changes to the vore ball sound good in principle, but in practice i find them harder to lose and i spend *more* of the fight doing boring shit to lose them.

Oh yes step on me, crusher

>>8018056
>anyway doomworld another bullshit boards

So, about MBF21 - where it is implemented already, besides DSDA?

>>8018148
Woof and GZDoom.

>>8018094

>>8017659
Is this using PBR? Just increase the roughness/decrease the smoothness on the vines, and it will look awesome.

what even is MBF21

>>8018181
Google it

>>8018181
Married black female 2021

>>8018181
Shiny new thing that no one is going to use because GZDoom exists.

>>8018181
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MBF21

https://youtu.be/ODTxNmp3VMk

>>8018193
Preeeeetty sure this isn't Doom, anon.

>>8018182
>>8018191
>>8018192
sounds pretty cool, thanks

>>8018181
MBF21 is an upgraded Boom map format which adds a bunch of nice quality of life features and fixes bugs, without breaking demo compat or otherwise moving away from the PRNG.
Together with UMAPINFO and Extended DeHacked, it lets you do a bunch of nice and convenient stuff without having to get into advanced stuff like GzDoom or Eternity.

>>8018191
You think people are gonna start making UDMF levels in droves all of a sudden? GzDoom (and Eternity), can play MBF21 levels, so what happens is that people are gonna play MBF21 levels with GzDoom, just like they always play Boom and Vanilla ones with GzDoom, sometimes with mods, sometimes without.

GzDoom is 98% used for gameplay mods, the mapping scene is miniscule, and unless there's some serious changes to GzDoom, that's how it'll remain.

>>8018202
Just report it, this guy has been shilling his podcast all around 4chan and other imageboards.

>>8018181
Basically MBF, but not riddled with bugs (ie, you can safely do "all three key doors" again), and a bunch of new features for mapping and dehacked. OPTIONS lump from MBF is also brought back from the grave (PrBoom for some reason never supported that MBF feature). Monsters/things falling off ledges is also now off by default, unlike complevel 9 and 11.

I wonder if a dead Archvile can be revived by another one of its kind?

>>8018191
Yeah, boom maps definitely stopped getting made the moment GZDoom released their first build in 2005.

Why are the OPs always gay innuendos?

> giving a shit about what exclusively gzdoomers think
Fortnite and Apex Legends are also the normie picks for shooters, doesn't mean theyre
>>8018251
And then a new era of broken maps and outdated mods was upon us. GZDoom truly was the savior of Doom.

>>8018251
All sourceports stopped the moment GZDoom existed and we no exist in a mono-port modding system where everything works perfectly all the time.

>>8018248
No - look at Decino's Archvile video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsVWdMVYJgk

>>8018191
Just like in last 10 years, eh? Basically almost all gzdoom level packs are ones, that change gameplay drastically or try to be something else than doom. Stronghold is about defending your base, Unloved is horror wad set in a hub, Golden Souls series is super mario in Doom, Lilith is artsy project that uses zdoom bugs as part of gameplay, while Paradise, Winter's Fury, Hellforged and TPH are all fused with their own gameplay mods. Nobody (except Bridgeburner) does tradional mapping for gzdoom. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see those maps. But reality is different. High-end wads that have trad gameplay are almost always made for boom or limit removing ports. /vr/ project for gzdoom wouldn't be a bad idea though.

>>8018062
There were several dozen maps in the 90s

>>8018281
Anything good? Besides the official expansion ofc.

why does this ugly dumb cracker not die to the fire

>>8018280
>>8018260
>>8018251
Calm down, I was talking more about modding side of the thing, not mapping.

>>8018292
there is a bug in the game where flaming enemies won't die and just keep running, any explosive will fix it

>>8018295
I agree, that there won't propably be lot of mods (besides quake weapons that one anon was working on). It's more of a treat for mappers.

>>8018305
I can see some Partial Conversion style stuff being done, altered weapons and some of the monsters redone for someone's episode. Basically, the kind of stuff that we still see occasionally, but it's more convenient to do now.

>>8018303
>any explosive will fix it
This is true

Why do I hear static every time I load a file in SLADE?

>>8018248
imagine if he could ressurect other archviles and also turn corpses of other monsters into archviles that have same abilities - that would make for an interesting gray goo encounter - though ball busting hard

>>8018317
Are you using Bluetooth headphones or speakers?

>>8018324
I think this could be possible in mbf21. Interesting encounter if not overdone.

Does anyone have that gif/webm of the cultist from Blood firing like a maniac?

>>8018352

>>8018356
Based, thanks lad.

>>8018336
Wired earphones.

If I were a mod, I'd ban any and all source port or mapping format war shitposting, any and all forum drama hurr durr and everyone complaining about archviles.

>>8018315
I can't possibly be the only one who thought of that one specific sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo

>>8018380
In fact, we should just forbid discussing anything at all. Maybe allow people to say "doom sure is nice" once in a while, but not too often.

doom sure is nice

>>8003328
you forgot to include the link for hffm stripped, it is just hffm quiet again.

>>8018295
MBF21 is largely aimed towards mappers more so than gameplay modders anyhow.

*quicksaves every 5 seconds*
why yes I am good at retro shooters how did you know

>>8018415
Get rid of this at your earliest convenience please.

>>8018415
The way it meant to be played.

>>8018376
Well I have no idea then.

>>8018415
>>8018426
I save every 5 minutes of in-game time.

>>8018415
>wander and get lost for 20 minutes
>die to a bullshit trap
>need to spend the same time getting back to where I was before
There's a reason why nearly every game today has adopted some form of checkpoint system.

>>8018317
Sound in Slade is just fucked, for me sometimes it refuses to play anything, sometimes it plays things at full volume regardless of where the slider is. If you're getting static when loading non-sound files that's especially weird, but maybe it's trying to play the files as if they are sounds or some shit. Just mute it in your OS's volume mixer.

>>8018095
I just wish the Copper dev would just reduce the Enforcers backpack ammo-drop down to 2cells instead of removing it entirely - its the only thing that upsets me about it...

>>8017730
they ordered mountain dew

>>8018415
I save every 5 seconds, but I rarely die to anything that isn't environmental hazards.
I'm not going back to the start of a level because of some bullshit platforming.

>>8018178
you mean get rid of the vaseline?

>>8017974
>>8017976
>targetspy
it looks pretty bad to me

>>8018385
If you can't have a discussion without resorting to the same old tired non-issues, maybe you shouldn't discuss anything at all.

Last vaseline pic, with a different PBR texture pack for the water. It's pretty cool so I reupload it since i found it in a discord server but couldn't find it anywhere else
https://litter.catbox.moe/1jmtgu.pk3

>>8018457
You wouldn't need to wander and get lost the second time because you already know where to go.
>There's a reason why nearly every game today has adopted some form of checkpoint system.
So that you're guaranteed to win.

>>8018543
>So that you're guaranteed to win.
What a bullshit argument.
I can put a hundred checkpoints every two minutes of a level, with the last one before the boss. And if you don't beat the boss, you can't beat the level and in consequence also not the game.

>>8018543
You're "guaranteed to win" regardless of the existence of checkpoints you moron, they just lessen the tedium of doing a boring part of the level over and over

>>8018506
>A ridiculous amount of customization options so that you can make it look pretty much however you want.

"Boy sure looks ugly, better throw one that looks like its from a shitty mobile game up instead!"

>>8018561
>boring part
>I already killed one Imp, why should I have to kill any more? It's so boooooring.

>>8018565
>one imp is the same as an Eternal Doom-esque map which takes several minutes to traverse and activate switches
Don't forget to buckle your helmet next time you ram your head against the wall while playing, Scooter!

>>8018578
Well if you don't think a wad is fun, why are you playing it?

>>8018583
They are fun. Especially when you have the option to not have to repeat parts you've already completed.

>>8018585
Do you use savestates on emulators too? You come off like the kind of person who does.

>>8018415
I quicksave ~30 times per minute, what are you going to do about it?

>>8018590
Save states are a feature put in by a third-party program which the original creators of the game did not intend for. There is quite literally a SAVE GAME option on the pause menu in Doom along with the game manual suggesting the player to save frequently to prevent progress being lost. Total false equivalency.

Will we ever learn a mystery behind this portrait?

Who is your favorite DooM wad OC?

>>8018646
Arti.

>>8018538
>downloaded
>loaded with gzdoom
>everything looks the same

What did I do wrong lads I might be a retard

>>8018658
do you have dynamic lights turned on? I think it might work better with an old version of GZDoom since that other PBR texture pack doesn't work with the latest version but this screeenshot was taken with the latest one

it's good water

>>8017509
the inverse of mt pain is pleasure pit

>>8018191
>>8018295
Hehe
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123800-wip-vesper-mbf21-showcase-mod/

>>8018457
That also could've been solved if you remembered to save, especially if you're wandering around for 20 minutes.

What is, objectively, the optimatlly amount of weapon bob in GZDoom?

>>8018498
Yes.

>>8018694
at least 1337, but not more than 9000.

>>8018667
Yeah it's on
Still not working, anyway thanks anon

>>8018315
>>8018381
Kek

>>8018381
Did he say ХУЙ?

>>8018694
Weapon bob = enough it's there, but not enough you consciously notice
view bob = 0.00000000000000000000

>>8017512
DSDA-Doom has reached v0.20.0 which adds beta support for Hexen.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2364887

I've also pulled this update into From Doom With Love
https://github.com/CharlesLove/from-doom-with-love/releases/tag/v2021.08.09

>>8018694
Viewbob: on
Weapon sway: off

>>8018056
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/skulltiverse

Weapon and view bobbing at maximum

>>8018778
>which adds beta support for Hexen.
y tho

>>8018789
Mappers for the project are: Joe-Ilya

>>8018778
>Added support for EE's dehacked "Blood color"
Colored blood option is one tiny feature I liked seeing in Crispy/PrBoom, was hoping to see it in DSDA one day. This one will do I guess. Time to make a personal deh patch.

>>8018818
What do you stupid fucking idiots think of the Final Doomer weapons for their respective wads?

>>8018836
Didn't mean to quote but enjoy your free (You) anon.

>>8018821
If you ever do post it somewhere to add it to my personal visual enhancement list

>>8018778
How come Eternity still has not Hexen support?

>>8018856
Here you go, it's super tiny: https://pastebin.com/Yk1NDgRj

>>8018778
Did a small update to From Love to fix the extended hud and map names clipping into each other.

>>8017810
yeah theres some pretty bad master levels. especially compared to how much we got now.
It is worth a play through imo but its bad levels highly out weigh its good levels.

Playthrough video of map13 of HFFM is up (The Leather Club).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WewYRk6VC1o

>>8018889
Bitchin'. Going in my autoload folder.

>>8018901
>it is shaped like a heart
my faggot ass saw something else

>>8017883
Good:
Chuxen
Hub Of Pain

Okay:
Shannara
Hexcity

>>8018468
The changes to ammo drops just reek of that kind of mapper autism where they dont want anything left up to chance, every ammo pickup needs to be tightly controlled by the level designer.

>>8018498
I really dont understand these mods. They claim to be "realistic", but the only fucking place that looks remotely that shiny is the inside of a wet cave. Its like theyve never actually been outside or seen how light reflects off of surfaces in real life.

>>8018778
>>8018821
>>8018856
>>8018889
NICE

>>8017810
Maximum Doom make Master Levels look like a masterpiece.

>Doom 3 VR is the BFG Edition
Stop this shit please.
Are the unofficial vr mods better?

>>8018793

>>8018967
>but the only fucking place that looks remotely that shiny is the inside of a wet cave
Exactly! It makes the entire levels look like they're made out of plastic or something.

>>8018967
it should be more like this, i dunno why they had to make it extra shiny

Did you know?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/OS/2

>>8019016
If it's a satin paint maybe. Most houses use eggshell, so they wouldn't even be that shiny.

>>8018997
I kind of wish mario looked that fucking stupid.

>>8018890
Why do their wings extend off, but their asses don't?

>>8019027
even the door is more shinier

>>8019016
Nightmare Reaper is that you?

>>8018498
these mods are getting really realistic

>>8019034
>>8019034
do-it2.wad?

>>8018991
M A X I M U M

What are some good wads or levels that look like semirealistic urban environments and not the weird abstract ones like in 2.

>>8019016
Unless that's some kind of plastic wall mat like in a shower or bathroom, that's still way much. Hell, it still would look weird.

>>8019017
Looked into this, there's gameplay of it too: https://youtu.be/AGuxzoAwXmM

>>8019041
Official id software seal of quality

>>8019045
Hellbound.

>>8019050
seconding this

>>8019050
Ive already played that one.

>>8019016
That sorta works for some kind of wall paints, actually.

>>8019047
That's not the beta OS/2 port.

>powered through and beat Grey Dwarf
I'm honestly offended that was a secret level. It was shit, and for some reason it had the worst, most repetitive track in the wad despite being made by the composer who gave all the other levels complete bangers.
Ugly, bland and boring. Easily the worst level of Ancient Aliens by far. At least the Nectar flow was nice to look at for the most part.

>>8019067
>heard about how rough it was from that Blood thread
I’m scared anon

>>8019045
The Ultimate Doom 2: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74280-the-ultimate-doom-ii-doom-ii-levels-reimagined/

>>8017512
Xaser posted an MBF21 showcase mod: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123800-wip-vesper-mbf21-showcase-mod/

>>8018890
Using hexen_ws.wad from this forum post. Doesn't seem like dsda supports all the functionality of widescreen assets yet. The wings/horns are an outlier as the full status bar and weapons don't appear to be working.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2319507

>>8019082
meant for
>>8019032

>it's not really a continuous episode like the previous ports.
Lame

>>8019069
Its not hard, if anything its the easiest level in the wad, especially going continuous.
Its just very boring to look at and has annoying music. It'd fit in fine with a generic community wad, but one with the profile of AA doesn't deserve this drek lowering the general quality.
I found the second secret exit and walked through, hopefully map 32 is better, but even if it isn't I'll have map 16 to enjoy soon.

>>8019093
It was never intended to be a continuous episode.

>>8019074
man, lotta dev stuff got done today

>>8019069
I was so bored I save scummed excessively, simply because I didn't want to repeat a second of it if I died.

blessed or cursed

>>8019119
I know that's not the way to play but since I saw screenshots for PS1 Quake 2 I played it with texture filtering off - just feels better

>>8019093
do they come with the descriptions?
like blacksea talking about how you're actually a cybie turned into a doomguy, betrayed by an archvile and shit

>>8018356
>Yoro shi kuruuu . . .

>>8019126
No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MdQJg8xH8

feed time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt2Ry0emqa0

>>8019045
Comatose, but you might want to use a GL accelerated port because of the monsters tho

>>8019071
Took forever to download then failed at the end :(

>download Lost Civilization
>load map01
>shoot
>listen to new sound

End me

>>8019045
Hell on Earth Starter Pack

>>8019045
Eday

>>8018997

>>8019221
>open wad in SLADE
>delete sounds
Easy.

>>8019281
tfw you make a mod thats good but has such annoying sound every person that downloads it personally edits out the sound.

>>8019245
>>8019248
it'd be cool if sgt mark4 finished eday for real, also would be cool if he made a vanilla compatible version. where its not necessary to play it brutal doom. but overall it really is the best mapset to go along with brutal doom.

Any good tutorials about DEHEXTRA?

Retroquad testing new Skyboxes with dithering
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1424864584125591555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrJuPdgCk8Y

>>8019119
Panzerchrek's 8 bit software patch is neat, sadly is tied to 3.24.

why do my friendly monsters disappear during the ghouls forest, i wandered around for the ghouls and the friendly monsters just despawned or something, this heresiarch was my pal and he disappeared

can someone give me a good megawad recommendation in the vein of Alien Vendetta or Back to Saturn?

also, does anyone know how to fix the issue with the elevators not working in Going Down when run in Crispy Doom? it may be the doors not opening, can't remember, but either way makes it impossible to progress.

>>8019352
Going Down is not supposed to run under Crispy. Crispy is Limit Removing and Going Down is Boom compatible
Try PrBoom+ or Woof, idk
As for wads recommendations like that, I think you'd like Jenesis

>>8019352
Speed of Doom is pretty fun and challenging.

Anyone have trouble with VirtualMidiSynth being too loud with woof? i have to manually lower the volume in the midi mixer control but something like GZDoom or other games using midi just use the ingame volume control

>>8019045
You want Build games, the Doom engine wasn't made for non-abstract things.

You lads up for some QCDE? We're at the NL2.AYE.WTF duel server on zandro and it could use some life

>>8019383
>>8019405
thanks sirs

>>8019508
Unless you map with Eternity.

>>8019249
Reminds me of how over-exaggerated and flanderized the visual design is in Eternal compared to classic Doom.

>>8019505
Are you using portmidi in your port?

>>8017810
Black Tower is more memorable than any TNT map

>>8018836
Playing Hellbound wiht Final Doomer and Babel Monsters has one of the most fun Doom experiences I had in a while, would recommend.

>>8019596
Dunno, just whatever virtualmidisynth sets up by default

>>8017509
Explain why you're all so shit at Doom/FPS/video games.

FEARbros we got too cocky.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123791-fear-is-a-very-overrated-video-game-trilogy

>>8018782
having either off feels so unnatural, i need both

>>8019646
I wish I could play with both, but motion sickness is a bitch. Keeping weapon sway is better than a still weapon if one thing has to go.

I've only played Doom 1 and 2 before, and the other day on a whim I decided to play the steam version Doom 64. It's pretty fun, I beat it last night. Just played the first "Lost Level," and wasn't as into it. Maybe I'm just burnt out, especially after the "fun" levels, but how do you guys feel about the Lost Levels?

Also, how is Doom 3? Does it play like the old Dooms or is it more modern with cutscenes and shit?

>>8019676
Doom 3 is a real fine game, but compared to the Doom franchise as a whole it's weird, because it's slow-paced and you have a crappy shotgun and lots of hitscanners, maybe more than in Plutonia
Still, if you can somehow get the non-BFG version, play it
BFG is fine too I guess, I just like the non-BFG one better

>>8018836
I'm playing through Ancient Aliens with its respective set and am loving it more than my vanilla run.
>Knife
I prefer berserk fists, but its fun using the bow and Za Worldoing demons with it I guess.
>Bow
More useful than a chainsaw, it freezes time for one enemy for a bit and is great against archviles when I remember its a thing.
>Pistol
Overpowered, but I rarely use it. Its got a nice, satisfying sound to it. Kills zombiemen in one hit most of the time.
>Shotgun
In terms of the sound, I like it a lot. It sounds punchier than vanilla, but it seems to do roughly the same damage.
>Super Shotgun
Not a huge fan. Its boring to look at and its not as satisfying to fire as the vanilla, but it seems to fire more pellets and again, does slightly more damage. Not game breaking, it barely does any more damage.
>AK47
I like it. Its a nice chaingun replacement, again, doesn't have any noticable power over the original but being a rusted AK its understandable that its not that powerful.
>Photon Staff
Functionally the same as the rocket launcher, outside of the projectile gaining power over large distances (odd design choice, since most AA maps are small). Love the Stargate look.
>Alien Rainbow Gun Thing
Can't remember what its actually called, the plasma replacement is overpowered. I thought it sucked at first, and the initial few bursts are situational and shitty, but the full power beam just melts anything that isn't a boss. The flavour text mentions its the same gun the cloaked aliens use, which is bullshit because AA would be unfair if their guns did what this can do.
>Illuminator
BFG replacement with meme illuminati symbol when firing, frankly its cheating. This thing feels like it was ripped from Russian Overkill because the beam just deletes everything. The good news is that Skillsaw made sure to include very few BFGs in the wad and they're all in really tough sections near the end of chapters anyway.

So yeah, I like this set.

>>8019676
It has a few cutscenes throughout the game, but its not really story-focused or anything. The real problem is the combat itself. The guns lack punch, and the encounters are all in tight flat spaces which gets really repetitive.

>>8019676
>how do you guys feel about the Lost Levels?
I've only played through them twice(once on switch, once on PC), but I liked them. They offered as challenge that the regular Doom 64 failed to provide for the most part. It really showed how dickish the N64 incarnations of the Arachnotrons and Pain Elementals can be.

>>8019710
BFGs in this mod are overpowered in general. The one in JPCP set can erase a huge smack of cacodemons or gaggle of revenants in one shot. Honestly, they're overpowered in vanilla too, and I hate them from game-design point, they make archviles a non-threat and dissuade you from using the plasmagun (at least FD allows you to divorce BFG from cell ammo).

>>8018836
all the weapons are satisfying and standout in their own unique yet simple ways
except the JPCP set, it's gimmicky and feels like it's trying to be a support class for a mod that's singleplayer

>>8019710
>Ancient Aliens
Holy moly anon I need the link

>>8019851
JPCP is hands down the best set in the mod. It's not about "support", it's about combining your weapons, mastering your sword and unleashing your inner fedora. Nothing is more satisfying than cutting hell knight down in a single swing and sheathing your katana, smirking to yourself and saying "you're ten thousand years too early to pick a fight with me" under your breath.

>>8019886
The Hellbound set is pretty fucking insane if you enable "advanced mode" on the c4.

>>8019894
Hellbound is pretty straightforward in its OPness, basically a Trailblazer-lite, better suited for more slaughtery wads. Great set nonetheless.

>Play Fresh Supply
>Laggy, frames keep dipping, loads slowly, keeps freezing
>Play One Whole Unit with source port
>Runs like a breeze, no lag, no frame drops
Why does Fresh Supply run like complete shit?

>>8018997

>>8019917
I think it has something to do with the Kex Engine and low-end pcs
I had to play Doom 64 rerelease in like a real low res to get stable framerates

I can't help but notice that the cacodemons in Babel will sometimes expel some sort of particle effect from their behinds.

>>8020103
pixel brap

>>8017796
You need to play all three and ignore this Doombabby >>8017801

>>8020109
Lmaoing at your life Mara-fag

>>8019924
Feels like this needs to be set to some kind of happy calypso Sonic song, beat set to those motions

I feel like I'm missing something about Hell Revealed
I don't understand it
Why are some maps so... not difficult
Like not that they're ordinary DOOM maps, but like, they give you a regular shotgun, pit you against 70 hell barons in either a room where they're all easily circlestrafed or you can use cover to pick them off one-by-one (with linedefs preventing them from going into the other room), and like 15 boxes of shotgun ammo so you don't have to worry about running out. Then you spend the next ten minutes shotgunning all 70 hell barons, and... that's the entire encounter. Maybe after you go off to other rooms and get a key or something you have to backtrack and there are another 15 barons or something like that, but I feel like a lot of Hell Revealed is just monsters in normal rooms.
With a handful of notable exceptions that DO match my expectations for how Hell Revealed is talked about, I honestly, truly feel like I had a harder time with Plutonia.

I'm only at MAP20 though, I know people hype up MAP26 so there are going to be at least a couple more of those exceptions, but thus far I have to wonder if I'm actually missing something. Been playing all these maps pistol start, to note

>>8020226
Also when I say "normal rooms" I mean the architecture of the rooms don't give way to interesting encounters. It's shit like hallways, squares and circle arenas. MAP13 is a big exception and what I consider to be hostile architecture, difficult passageways where the more you go in the harder it is to get out without fighting your way out, but there's also something worth pushing that far instead of playing it safe, like a major weapon being denied from you until you get to that part of the map. Running headlong into chaingunner hell with revenants firing from the ledge above, it being theoretically possible to fight the revenants without alerting the chaingunners if not for the fact that the chaingunner area has the plasma gun, is the kind of sadistic traplike design I expected more of
Some maps in HR just give you a bunch of shit really early so you're equipped for whatever they give and can chip away at the horde without much issue. MAP19 was the worst about this, ALL of it was hallways and they gave you every weapon at the start of the map. Enemy encounters are also strangely homogeneous sometimes, like when it's JUST barons or JUST revenants; maybe the idea is to prevent in-fighting but it makes them much more linear, reduces decision-making on who to target, and just makes them take longer.

Also when I say "normal rooms" I mean the architecture of the rooms don't give way to interesting encounters. It's shit like hallways, squares and circle arenas.

MAP13 is a big exception and what I consider to be hostile architecture, difficult passageways where the more you go in the harder it is to get out without fighting your way out, but there's also something worth pushing that far instead of playing it safe, like a major weapon being denied from you until you get to that part of the map. Running headlong into chaingunner hell with revenants firing from the ledge above, it being theoretically possible to fight the revenants without alerting the chaingunners if not for the fact that the chaingunner area has the plasma gun, is the kind of sadistic traplike design I expected more of

Some maps in HR just give you a bunch of shit really early so you're equipped for whatever they give and can chip away at the horde without much issue. MAP19 was the worst about this, ALL of it was hallways and they gave you every weapon at the start of the map.

Enemy encounters are also strangely homogeneous sometimes, like when it's JUST barons or JUST revenants; maybe the idea is to prevent in-fighting but it makes them much more linear, reduces decision-making on who to target, and just makes them take longer.

>>8020226
>>8020242
HR isn't the pinnacle of design, it's just kids messing around in the editor in the mid 90s. Of course Plutonia is better and more professional. And since then we've had decades to refine gameplay, so naturally most of HR doesn't hold up.

>>8020252
I expect that to a degree given its age, but I feel like there are significantly better amateur wads from the era, like Requiem and STRAIN, which aren't discussed nearly as often. It's HR's notoreity combined with how it compares with other '96 and '97 wads that makes me feel so confused

>>8018564
And all of that customisation look like shit because the author decided to go symbols-only
I want something small and semi-transparent
targetspy can't do that.

>>8019294
I just played through it with DAKKA

>>8018248
The video that another anon linked also explains it but Archviles can't resurrect monsters without a Raise state. If you want to let Archviles resurrect each other you could add them one in ZDoom with Decorate, that also applies to other monsters which can't be resurrected like Cyberdemons or Spider Masterminds.

Hey guy I bought 3 game on steam

>>8020252
Yep. This is especially true when you look at a lot of the wads that DID cite HR as an influence, but still manage to hold up, like Alien Vendetta, Scythe, or Kama Sutra, also generally were influenced by Plutonia.

>>8019676
I thought the Lost Levels were great fun, all the more Doom 64 for me!

For Doom 3, it's different, it's closer to Half-Life in many aspects, though adding some occasional cutscenes (which aren't long). I think that it is a decent game which has some strengths, but it's also quite flawed, and I can see why some people won't like it. I would suggest to use something like a Flashlight mod, and to not play on easiest, that way it can focus more on being a shooter, instead of on the halfbaked horror. Maybe also put on some heavy metal and grunge in the background while you play, because outside of the main menu theme (which is sick as fuck), there's no music.

I love the chainsaw in Doom 3, it's powerful as shit, if you move quick you can can fight almost any enemy in the game with just the saw, and it makes it a more exciting experience.

Sunlust is the pinnacle of design. It makes me hardcore for liking it too.

>>8020343
I like Doom 3 once it gets going but the opening hour is so slow and dull.

>>8020380
This, but unironically.

>>8020380
lol been reading that thread. Kinda hilarious when the person who hates sunlust tells a speedrunner (who did a d2all UV-Max of Sunlust at that) that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to encounter design in Sunlust.

Anyone else waste time thinking about, "What if ____ mod was released as the base game in the 90's? Man that would be soooo cool. People would be blown away."

>>8019045
Batman Doom

I'm having fun with this, and I'm nearly done!

>>8019331
>Skyboxes with dithering
Looks pretty cool. Something about the imperfections of the dithering make it seem to fit in the retro quake style, rather than looking gaudy and faux-retro.

>>8019734
You should play the Fun Levels if you haven't, they ride your ass pretty hard in ways the regular ones never do.

>>8020465
So... Blaz gonna swap hands when mirrored?

>>8020465
So... Blaz gonna swap hands when viewed from the right?

>>8020479
I'm afraid so. That kinda shit bothers me, but I'm not about to go that far into the deep end for player sprites that only a small handful of people will see. If this was a third person game, I'd go nuts.
Really I'm going overboard as is, but this was a bit of an exercise to see if I could pull off some extra details for animations, as well as update his sword attack frames. Because the old frames were kinda bad. These sprites have been like this since 2014.

>>8020481
If I were you, I'd just slap it together with a 3D model and a lowres filter

>>8020485
I can't model.

>>8020487
Me neither :P

CRUO STRATAGANA MALAXOS

>>8018836
My favorite has gotta be the TNT set cause the combat shotgun replacement is pure bliss to use, and the SSG replacement is really fun. Also a big fan of the tornado battery from the Alien Vendetta set.

I'm playing through Whitemare 2 atm and have grown pretty attached to the weapon set as well. The only one I wasn't really a fan of was JPCP but the katana is based cause it lets you cut through projectiles.

>>8020463
this is underrated imo I really like it

>>8020529
MARINATE
PHALLUS

>>8020572
I'd be right happy to!

>>8020529

I want to complain about Guncaster Vindicated. First off, I love Guncaster and Vindicated, I've played them so much recently I've forgotten what vanilla Doom is like. AND I love what Vindicated did with the Bruiser Brothers, it makes them actually challenging and intimidating, it always has taken me a few tries at least to kill them.

But now I'm playing the most recent version of Vindicated. In the past I would have complained that the pentagram arena was way to small for fighting the Bruiser Brothers, it was a valid complaint then, but now, with the changes to the AI and how little equipment I have to fight with, they are next to impossible. The arena is just way too fucking small for what the Bruiser Brothers can do, and every spike of the pentagram is a death trap, I can't dodge anything, I don't think I've lasted more than ten seconds. In previous versions this was a problem that I was able to deal with, now it is game breaking.

But there's an easy fix. Vindicated already has completely changed the Tower of Babel level to suit the revamped Cyberdemon, now changes are needed for Phobos Anomaly. I'd say just lower the walls when the Bruiser Brothers are ACTIVATED, and add some sectors outside the pentagram to be steps so the player can use all of that huge space as the arena to fight and my complaints would vanish.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Czequisite
Look, ma, I hacked YouTube! No results!

By this I mean that dance hall area in Czequisite Corpse
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/czcorpse
kills me on UV, as I have no TAS reflexes. At the same time, I don't want to change difficulty. Is it possible to kill them all fast enough at all?

>>8020687
Ultimate Doom Builder is a thing.
Do it yourself.

>>8018315
>"Mommy look a shooting star!"

>>8019331
People set the resolution to FullHD4K8KGTSuperDouble300Hz, then jump through hoops to make 50 polygons and 64×64 textures look nice, inventing ways to bring back clamped spatial and color resolution to match the original assets. Just render it at resolution expected at the time of its release, and it will look nice.

Doom 2 Redux fucking sucks.

>>8020719
Hell, there's barely enough time to clear the area with invulnerability ON before arch-vile compartment opens. How is it meant to be played?

Anyway, what happens next killed my interest. Meh.

The area made by jaeden was delightfully packed, though.

Finished Whitemare 2. They're ok wads but I found both of them to be pretty forgettable. Love the final doomer flamethrower though.

>>8020835
Play A.L.T. if you haven't. Russian off-the-wall arthouse megawad.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll get around to it at some point

Skulltiverse maps01-08
https://mega.nz/file/dOIQDLrL#0jJPt298Lj4eoOfvj-WRqnz4TV3Ru5Qv7MzIY4egX54
>>8017627

>>8020802
I think you missed the point of this guys engine, which i came blame you for as he doesn't have good summary.

>>8020835
Well, it was speedmapped, to some extent.

Scribble Sacrament somewhere, too, it has better version of Doxylamine Moon that the standalone.

Hey I just got the eternity engine and read somewhere. I gotta get the official build and extract a dev build into it for it be updated. Is this true ???
Also what's a comfy way to set up the eternity engine mouse so it feels like zdoom mouse ????

>>8020895
I did not mean this engine specifically, I just find it funny that making old stuff look good naturally results in artificial downgrading of modern graphical subsystem.

>>8019249
Nice, but fuck you for making me now want a Mario mod/hack for the old-school Lemmings which will never happen...

>>8020338
nice, enjoy them!

>>8017598
Why does Wrath: Aeon of Ruin use the DP engine then?

>>8020802
R scale is garbage on quakespasm
Q1 monsters doesn't support external texture loading on said ports, instead they enforce chillo's remodels
They never bothered fixing Q1 filtering beyond GLquake garbage, which works ONLY when you throw a 3dfx scanline and crt royale filter on top of it to smooth the edges and color

>>8020996
Issues with selling it.

>>8021057
Don't they all have the same license?

They have had to make their fork of darkplaces open source anyways.
https://github.com/KillPixelGames/wrath-darkplaces

>>8019870
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/aaliens
Here, anon. Enjoy!

>>8021024
How do I scanline my quek

>>8021119
grab reshade and use the crt pack on github along with the royale port

>>8020734
I just want the creator to be aware. It seems like a significant oversight to me.

>>8017509
What are some good practices vs hitscanners such as the pig cops in Duke Nukem? I always seem to trade with them, one shot hits me before I hit back (though usually only the first time I see them, afterwards I can dodge mostly okay. The Doom chaingunners/shotgunners are worse after I see them)

>>8021169
If you're talking about fighting them, immediately leave the room or hide behind cover in situations of ambush (especially if it's behind you). Then, slowly wittle down their forces by going in and out of cover to fire at them. They generally have a moment before they activate to shoot you so that's when you fire.

For mapping, if you're going to ambush a player with hitscan, try to only do it from either the left or right side if they aren't in a position where they can move towards the player (on pillars). Having to do the same repetitive action for cleaning out enemies twice isn't very engaging.

>>8021169
You can dodge their shots entirely by strafing at full speed. Unlike Doom enemies, you can't meaningfully stunlock Duke hitscanners unless you're close enough to kick them.

Was duke nukem built with freelook in mind or was that added later?

>>8021210
From what I recall playing Duke as a kid, there was optional freelook, but it was inverted with no option to change it. Still, after messing long enough with settings I somehow managed to achieve non-inverted mouselook, but the end result was pretty horrible.

>>8020487
I can't, and I wouldn't at this point if I were you. You're already close to done. No point.
Gotta know when to call it "good enough"

>>8020278
I thought you were taking the piss until I looked really carefully, how they fuck is that supposed to help give you any information in the middle of a fight?

>>8021210
It played fine with keyboard-only controls, IIRC it was default arrow keys + alt-to-strafe.

>>8021267
I can*
My phone assumed can't for some reason. I must've hit the suggested word by accident. Sad.

>>8021267
That's how I see it. Like I said to that other guy earlier, I'm not gonna go completely apeshit with these player sprites, there's no need to do so.
I got my work cut out for me when I get to Samson though.

What is the best way to play Unreal?

>>8021314
Unreal Gold (GOG)

>>8021314
Mouse and keyboard, make sure to shoot the badmans and dodge the shit they send your way. Also make sure to grab every dispersion pistol upgrade as it turns into a fucking cannon by the end.

>>8021314
I've legitimately never beaten Unreal. I've started on either 2 or 3 different occasions, and each time I just end up stopping at some point.

Why does mouselook and movement in prboom-plus feel so different? I grew up on ZDoom. Crispy, as well as Chocolate (mostly) feel completely natural once I turn off mouse acceleration. But even with mouse acceleration off in prboom-plus, it still just doesn't feel right. Is it just something psychological?

>>8021368
Zdoom is the only one that feels good with vsync on. Everything else feels really good if you disable vsync. If you have a dedicated gpu, you should get tearing in opengl borderless fullscreen or pretty much any software mode configuration.

>>8021370
* shouldn't get
It's the reason I made a 'smart vsync' option in from doom with love.

>>8021370
>>8021373
I'll look into this. Thanks anon.

Noclip released a Greatest Hits episode about Thief:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZmcbShMFNY

>>8021316
Just that? Any patches or sourceports?

>berserk pack in HFFM is "horse viagra"
>not a reference to "fisting is three hundred bucks"
You had one job and you still screwed the pooch.

>>8021464
Sorry anon, I wasn't familiar with Gachimuchi when I made the item sprites.
If you're curious, it was a reference to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAqyWpBo9OU

rip

>>8021368
PrBoom has the same default Doom mouse as DOS/Chocolate/Crispy/etc., assuming you're on 2.6 and not 2.5.1.4

>>8021471
>laying the Doom series to rest
Nah, you have to kill Romero to do that. And G-d have mercy on us all if he dies of natural causes.

>>8021471
>They thought that Doom would never come back officially after DOOM64.
Oh, if only they knew what would come in the form of DOOM3.

>>8021471
Looking at Eternal I wish it did.

I dont care the game is competent it looks gross.

>>8021518
>looks are more important than functionality, consistency and gameplay

>>8021523
I dont care. The game looks fucking stupid.

>>8021368
>>8021370
>>8021475
PrBoom+'s mouse will not behave properly in Windows 10, it gets a weird and jittery input with delay. Sometimes, this can be fixed by turning off mouse smoothing in Windows.

>>8021464
I like horse viagra better, because I like the idea of taking some ridiculous shit like that and getting a dangerous powerboner that makes you punch (and hump) like a truck.

>>8021523
I mean... you have to look at a game while you play it, and the gameplay isn't so exceedingly good that it can make up for how much of a joke the art design is.

>>8021370
Hey this helped out immensely with the eternity engine thanks bro

>>8019870
Don't let the name fool you
That one was me first wad, I downloaded it because haha aliens
It's pretty tough for a newbie, I ended up hating it until like last year where my lazy arse got good and beat it
Once you get the hang of it it's a real good time tho

>>8021549
Sure, DOOM:Eternal's art design can indeed be off-putting for a number of people in many areas from what I've seen of it. Understandable. Gunplay is still largely better than DOOM3. I feel that Doom 2016 is ultimately better in terms of lore, presentation, and a couple of the wepons.

>>8021549
The gameplay is perfectly fine I guess even with rainbow skittle ammo.

But fuck its so dumb. I appreciate going away from brown military era shooter but sometimes you over correct.

Lets put it this way about Eternal just to finish.

If Eternal was the Darksiders Strife spin off I would have loved it.

>>8021568
>rainbow skittle ammo
Yeah, Doom:Eternal really didn't need to be so damn overly colored in certain parts.

How does Gzdoom not have a 'pistol start' option yet in 2021?

>>8021536
This is fixed in 2.6

>>8021585
IDCLEV## or disable autosave at the start of every level, delete your the autosave of the level you want to pistol start, and die

>>8021605
Thanks but I know about these work arounds. I just think it's odd that a straightforward toggle hasn't been implemented yet.

>>8021609
>work arounds
IDCLEV or dying is how you pistol start in the normal game. I think it's odd that you think it's odd.

>>8021585
Why are you using gzdoom on 2021. At least use LZDoom

>>8021602
I hear otherwise from some anons.

>>8018778
Looks like DSDA-Doom removed the 32-bit renderer, and renamed 8-bit renderer to simply "software".

>>8021679
Only autists care about what sourceport you use, it's all the same game.

>>8021687
There was really no use case for 32 bit renderer. Also it ran like ass. I hope they remove opengl next.

anybody know of any eternity engine wads besides heartland???

I really want to like Bulleteye because I like the concept and it's clear they put in a lot of work, but man am I not gelling with the enemies.
The zombieman replacement is way too slippery and damaging to replace a cannon fodder enemy that is used to restrict your movements and plink away at your health with potshots, and the shotgunners throwing up shield after shield after shield is triggering my Hexen ptsd hard.

>>8021706
i only know mothership

>>8021706
the hypothetical /vr/ eternity mapping project that might or might not exist in the future

>>8021719
Hard agree anon, I've been following it for a while and I really miss when it didn't have any custom enemies, the shotgunners especially.

>>8021743
cool i'll check it out
>>8021745
honestly i hope more content comes out for the source port. cause playing through heartland and skillsaw describes this as basically a "tech demo"
i think says alot about what it can potentially do.

>>8021757
https://eternity.youfailit.net/wiki/List_of_maps_and_mods_made_for_Eternity
I think Mothership.wad is must-play tier, along with Heartland. In Search is another one I can confirm is good. Cubic Worlds is a WIP by stewboy but I haven't played it yet

>>8021772
very cool i didn't even know that existed desu. thanks

>>8019045
dead.wire, auger;zenith, hellbound

Been playing Good Morning Phobos
Wonder why it didn't win a Cacoward, it checks all the boxes
-Lots of revenants
-Lots of chaingunners
-Lots of Archviles
-

>>8021772
I played Mother ship the other day and it sucks. Huge open areas with little cover, lots of circle strafing, items aren't balanced well, bad monster placement, room over room utilized poorly, somehow makes AA textures look ugly

>>8021834
It didn't use OTEX.

i remember a video with this gif, that had some tech music playing and then had skeletons i think

>>8021838
yo wtf it syncs up with the song i'm listening to

>>8021772
Just played through mothership and thought it was pretty good. Final fight was tough with those nasty archviles but I still thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>8020338
Very nice, Anon. Hope you enjoy them

>>8021572
Original Doom was overly colorful and vivid as well

Play and read The Lost Episodes of Doom.

>>8017512
Action Doom 2: Urban Brawl Reloaded released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123821-action-doom-2-urban-brawl-reloaded/

>>8021906
Oh shit, some servers are up right now. What do you anons say we get a co-op game going right now?

>>8021878
It's moreso that Eternal still carries the "very 2010's overdetailed chittin demons and modern tech aesthetic" that 2016 had (consider the literal trends behind it) and mixed it with misguided colorfullness and sillyness, so it's both "whacky" and cynical
Classic Doom also had designs representing its trends but also a production of a B-movie, hence the low tech background with the blue carpet floors and rusty shotguns
The biggest problem with "getting" Doom is that it's a small franchise with a smaller setting that was already overexplored and analyzed by some nerds focusing too much on wall textures and shit
One thing is making Doomguy quote the meme comic but the actual autismo in the fanbase isn't really represented, even with the "we're adding lore to the franchise" which just screams "pop culture status quo", if anything

>>8021878
Maybe it's just because I like them so much, but I'm starting to believe the cacos are responsible for a lot of that color: Nearly maxed out reds and blues, even when laying around as a corpse. Then that little green eye tops it all off like an olive.

>>8021916
>"we're adding lore to the franchise"
I think that's the part of nuDoom that bothers me the most. Any amount of story that's more than just a few paragraphs of text explaining how demons are bad and Dewmguy is awesome is too much story. Everything they try to add to the formula just dilutes what's already there. The nuDooms are great games, but my biggest problem with them, is that they're called Doom.

>>8021960
They also have some of the only purple in the game.

>>8021962
>forgetting about Doom3, its lore, and that of the ROE expansion

>>8021706
Tarnsman's Projectile Hell was made for both EE and ZDoom.

Later this year Murdoch is releasing Eternity version of Caverns Of Darkness.

>>8021757
Skillsaw at least has planned to make more Eternity wads.

>>8018056
>Hate big man mode

>>8021906
>No Village People fight in the gay bar.
Pass.

>>8021982
Doom 3 definitely took the series in a bad direction, but I think it's safe to say it presented a much more competent story and fitting tone than nu-Doom.

>>8021962
I like the story because it takes itself pretty seriously, despite being utterly ridiculous.

>>8019924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqeHGY7so2g

>>8021994
Alright awesome. I'll check it out and keep checking on caverns of darkness.
>>8021995
I wouldn't be surprised, he makes good stuff. even if now his wads can be described as
>skillsaw style

>>8022005
I disagree that adding lore is inherently bad for Doom and Wolfenstein. Quake 1 has lore in not only the text messages after getting each of the 4 runes, but also in its manual and its expansions. ditto for Quake 2 and Quake 4. Usually, the lore itself is not the problem, its how its presented and treated.

>>8021835
Lack of cover doesnt matter unless theres hitscanners.

>>8021916
>>8021962

Naw, the lore stuff was alright. Like, whoever wrote that stuff actually seemed to GET it at least. It was kinda tongue in cheek.

It reminded me of how narrative is presented in the good old editions of 40K ( I'm talking like 3rd-4th ed, versus the bad new editions of 40k)- It was there, but you kinda had to put the pieces together yourself, if you just played the gampaign and didn't read any of the codex stuff you could ignore most of it.

The only part I actively dislike about nu-Doom is the music (it's gay nu-metal garbage, end of story), but most of all just the rabid screeching newfag fanbase. I can't stand the way these pricks are constantly circle-jerking about how much nu-Doom is the best game ever, obviously overcompensating for the fact they're newfags.

2016 was better than Eternal, anyway.

Playthrough video of map14 of HFFM is up (Somewhat Possible). LunchLunch has ripped my a new one with this map, so I had to include the outtakes as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH4mtLkX8VY

>>8022029
Well its not like Eternal had competition from limp dicked stuff like Rage 2 or whatever modern bilge is around.

Thing is its a problem with modern games lacking personality. Eternal silly style maybe would fit a sword and sorcery Hexen game.

>>8021695
32-bit also had the problem of making spectres harder to see
>>8021706
Cubic Worlds by Stewboy

>>8021719
>subweapon
Oh boy, this is old. I miss that needle thing.

>>8018901
>all those face rockets
It looks like you are brute-forcing your way through and hoping for good luck lol
>>8022057
Only one more map before my map!

Started episode 2 of Ancient Aliens and the new enemies were a nice surprise and damn this music is good.
>>8022005
>but I think it's safe to say it presented a much more competent
You mean Evil Scientist is evil so get the magic cube to win, that was the story of Doom 3.
>fitting tone than nu-Doom.
Oh bullshit, I'll take 2016 or Eternal's styles over Doom 3's falling to be a horror game style.

>>8021835
>Huge open areas with little cover
The only place that qualifies as a huge open area to me is the central hub. Perhaps it is a little barren but the cyberdemon catwalk fight in the center makes up for it
> lots of circle strafing
Only in that one in-fighting pit. You can't blindly strafe the cybies as they can pin you against the wall, and the rest of the map isn't like that as there are revenants or hitscanners or archies or level geometry to stop endless circle-strafing
>items aren't balanced well, bad monster placement
Too broad for me to say anything about except I disagree
>room over room utilized poorly
This is the point that baffles me the most. The entire structure is a two-story room-over-room space base. Two complete floors at least
>somehow makes AA textures look ugly
I thought the map was gorgeous. It's even more impressive after having tried to map

He's more than a man
He's....
DOOM...

>>8022196
What mod?

>>8022208
ai director, mimmicks the way l4d spawns monsters and randomly places enemies where it can including some into crowds

>>8013758
For context Temporal Tantrum is an mbf megawad being made by some people who post here sometimes. I would recommend it. Last thread I said I was going to give some more comprehensive feedback, but It's too big to fit in a post so I'm just linking a text file of my thoughts along with demos (complevel 11) for each map. Some of the demos are really meandering because I'd forget where to go, where secrets were, etc.\
https://files.catbox.moe/2omypd.zip

i just played doom for the first time in 25 years and forgot how funny it is that the final area in the first campaign is just a giant pentagram where 2 buff demon twins rush you

>expect a terrible nightmare of a secret level
>get a giant ship dungeon instead
I had fun but I can see why people wouldn't like that. I was given the impression it was going to be terrible but I even liked the song. Let's see how 32 is.

resurrecting an old map I was working on for the /vr/ map pack!

>>8022242
will eggplant ever recover?

>>8022151

I mean back in 2004 Doom 3 was pretty legit scary. Mainly because you couldn't see shit, but still. It's easy to see why they went in a horror direction and at the time, it made perfect sense to the average player.

People always forget that back in the day even the hokey bright colours and shit in the original Doom were considered scary. People weren't used to playing games from a first person perspective so immersion was off the charts for '93-'94 standards, the grunting of demons and shit would actually put you on edge.

In fact, now that I think about it, right up until military shooters took over in the late 2000s onwards, FPS games were almost considered horror games by default. It was just that strong of a genre convention. Dark corridors, jump scare moments, zombies, demons and aliens etc as enemies... Even when it wasn't outright spooky scary like Silent Hill or whatever, it was meant to provoke a fight or flight response.

They're not scary now because we've moved so far in graphics and design, so it's hard to take seriously, but the way I remember playing these games at the time, they definitely got me spooked.

>>8022242
Thanks so much anon, feedback and demos are beyond helpful, we appreciate you taking the time to do this. I'm busy at the moment but later tonight I'll check out the zipfile.
Our current plan is to release the next demo on the first of September, with at least four new maps and refinement for previous maps.

>>8017512
Crispy Doom 5.10.2 is released on Aug 10, 2021. It is a minor release introducing basic accessibility features and accumulated fixes since the previous release.

New Features and Improvements

— Smooth automap rotation and srolling have been implemented (by @JNechaevsky).
— Autoload directories for PWADs are now supported (thanks @OpenRift412 for the suggestion and @rfomin for the prior implementation in Woof!).
— Basic accessibility features have been added and can be toggled in the Accessibility menu of the setup tool: Flickering Sector Lighting, Weapon Flash Lighting, Weapon Flash Sprite, Palette Changes, Invulnerability Colormap

Bug Fixes

— In NRFTL the TITLEPIC is only replaced with the INTERPIC if the former is from the IWAD (thanks @OpenRift412).
— Overlaid automap remainings are now cleared from the demo loop (by @JNechaevsky).
— Adjusting of the BLOCKMAP boundaries to match the Vanilla algorithm has been reverted. Although this was done in the Vanilla algorithm, it doesn't match what's done in the algorithms used by MBF and Boom - and thus PrBoom+ which uses the latter. This fixes sync for one demo reported by galileo31dos01 on 5L1C.wad MAP01.
— The Compatibility menu has been removed from the setup tool, it is obsolete for all games now.
— The translucency table is now always calculated at gamma level 0, fixing potentially incorrect entries (by @JNechaevsky).
— The episode menu is now rendered with the HUD font if the graphics are both from an IWAD and if the patch width for "Hell on Earth" is longer than "No Rest for the Living" (thanks thanks @hackneyed-one).
— Automap rotation variables are now properly initialized, preventing line shaking (by @JNechaevsky).

Crispy Heretic

— The -demoext parameter (even though enabled by default) only applies to demos loaded on the command line.

Crispy Hexen

— Hexen: Restore pointers to mobj_t with garbage identity as NULL pointers (by @Dasperal).

>>8022501
Sorry im a Chocolate chad.

>kaizo chaingunner