/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 2.0 >>8003328
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8003105

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed): >>7967424
Submissions closed, voting TBA

=== NEWS ===
[8-06] .md2 importing tool for Blender
https://twitter.com/JoshuaSkelly/status/1423672434331295748

[8-04] Summer Fun Anon releases a demo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u7wwd30oawggfm0/Summer_Fun-Demo.zip?dl=1

[8-04] Xim's gzDoom3 for Classic Doom released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72960

[8-03] DN3DooM has been updated.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67864

[8-01] DBP 38 is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2218/chronicles-ghost-town

[7-30] Vomitoreum released on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549750/Vomitoreum/

[7-29] Grim Borough released (for chasm: The Rift)
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/grim-borough-for-chasm-the-rift

[7-29] Anon's MIDI Pack updated to v5
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bcgxwt25qm151xx

[7-27] Tasyspleen TS500 (Q2 FFA), July 31st
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1420068100335185921

[7-26] Retroquad 0.6.6 release
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419811121603698688

[7-26] KMQuake 2 test build, feedback wanted
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4098/new-kmq2-test-version

[7-26] Doomkid Vanilla Wad Pack Revision XII
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2356798

[7-25] DoomWare (like the TF2 plugin) (for Zandronum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiBYVOPxdI

[7-25] GZDoom 4.6.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72879

[7-25] Dread (Amiga 500 Doom Clone) Ep. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fQw1W22i8

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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 2.0 >>8003328
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8003105

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed): >>7967424
Submissions closed, voting TBA

=== NEWS ===
[8-06] .md2 importing tool for Blender
https://twitter.com/JoshuaSkelly/status/1423672434331295748

[8-04] Summer Fun Anon releases a demo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u7wwd30oawggfm0/Summer_Fun-Demo.zip?dl=1

[8-04] Xim's gzDoom3 for Classic Doom released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72960

[8-03] DN3DooM has been updated.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67864

[8-01] DBP 38 is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2218/chronicles-ghost-town

[7-30] Vomitoreum released on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549750/Vomitoreum/

[7-29] Grim Borough released (for chasm: The Rift)
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/grim-borough-for-chasm-the-rift

[7-29] Anon's MIDI Pack updated to v5
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bcgxwt25qm151xx

[7-27] Tasyspleen TS500 (Q2 FFA), July 31st
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1420068100335185921

[7-26] Retroquad 0.6.6 release
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419811121603698688

[7-26] KMQuake 2 test build, feedback wanted
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4098/new-kmq2-test-version

[7-26] Doomkid Vanilla Wad Pack Revision XII
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2356798

[7-25] DoomWare (like the TF2 plugin) (for Zandronum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiBYVOPxdI

[7-25] GZDoom 4.6.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72879

[7-25] Dread (Amiga 500 Doom Clone) Ep. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fQw1W22i8

=== PREVIOUS ===
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I DON'T CARE FOR NO NEW THREADS, GET TO 104.128.49.2:10695 ON ZANDRONUM AND LET'S KEEP THE FRAGS GOING

In order to step up my mapping game, I need to learn lucid dreaming. I've seen some interesting map ideas in my dreams, not to mention many cool locations and settings.

>>8011001
Gaze into deez nuts bitch

Playthrough video of map10 of HFFM is up (Heart Attack). A very aptly named map, as it is so stressful to play that it can give you a heart attack. I have no idea what mapping wizardry is going on, especially considering that it's Boom, but this is a masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8VuXM6OJVY

>>8011112
Boom supports fake water.

>I beefed Full Thrust in HFFM yet again
This map is haunting me. When I tested the new version that lowers the barrier when you press the blue switch, I still had no clipping on and didn't realize the barrier was still set to IMPASSIBLE. I am so sorry everyone.

>>8011151
its less-so water and moreso unswimmable sludge in boom

>>8011151
It sure does, but I had never seen it used to fill up an entire level like this.

>>8011206
I know how you feel.

>>8011158
what mod

>at Doomworld week or so ago
>in the forum with a few other co-posters
>one co-poster discusses REKKR with Revae
>obviously referring to that viking wad or something; also talking about playing it without filters, heresy
>bring up Sigil, tell them that I prefer it to these viking wads
>"oh you mean that episode for Ultimate Doom"
>correct them by saying, that Sigil is a megawad which has deatmatch maps inside maps
>"just like REKKR"
>try to tell them that it's more like shittr and that they should kneel before me and drink my knob while I make them my bitches, but it all cames out as mumbles
>conversation soon fades and they move onto the next wad while ignoring Sigil
Just another tale in never revealing your knob.

What wads you guys playin?

Can you teleport brushes like you can enemies?

>>8011330
Currently playing through Kama Sutra with pistol start. Map 11 is one hell of a rude awakening.

>>8011330
50 Monsters

>>8011330
Took a break from With Love dev to play some more TNT. Not sure if it's the replacement midi pack, but I'm having a pretty good time revisiting it.

>>8011357
>>8011360
>>8011375
Sounds good gents, i'm on D2TWID, first time playing through on map 20.

Which ports (other than gzdoom) allow simultaneous joystick/mouse controls? I like to play using my steam controller

>>8011330
Counter Attack

>>8011330
Hell to Pay

>>8011413
The Bethesda port supports gyro controls.

>>8011402
>annoying dragonfly problem
>goddamn features almost importan funny
>gun god beat anyway

>>8011402
>game quake fun

>>8011449

>>8011220
lmao

Just finished Doom E1 through E3 again.
E1 was comfy but too easy and a bit bland.
E2 was peak kino.
E3 was pretty lackluster and had a lot of really bad maps.
Onto E4, which I've never actually bothered to finish.

>>8011402
>rekkr lol
more like shittr?

Pretty bad place to ask, but: Clovr guy, how would I go about hosting a simple webpage like yours? Thinking about making a personal file dump for my doom things

Have you any tips for playing Doom deathmatches for the first time? I assume most of the players are very good. The last time I played a multiplayer video game was quake 3 arena about a decade ago with some of my friends at lan parties.

>>8011497
Tips from a total amateur
>Get powerups before anybody else
>SSG
>Know how the BFG works
>SSG
>Rockets and plasma are good area denial tools
>SSG
>Quick tapping the chaingun fires it with perfect accuracy if you need to nail someone from across the map
>SSG

>>8011504
Thanks

>>8011504
apparently if you press use on a wall it'll cover the sound of the bfg about to go off but i feel like every one would know that.

Like you fire the bfg and while its about to go off press use on a wall let the bfg ball go into the wall and pop out and hit em with the lasers from the bfg.

>>8011001
re-posting this from the previous thread for more info >>8010121
if anyone was asking how to import stuff from the PS1 game, or even fix the monsters wobbly vertex and player gun models, here it is

>>8011491
beat doom 2 before you beat episode 4 if you wanna beat it the way the games came out.

Still waiting for these threads to have non-BFG Doom 3 on the download links

>>8011601
Theres literally nothing stopping you from making the next thread and adding it.

>>8011491
>E1 was comfy but too easy and a bit bland.

>>8011673
>posts picture of a retarded greying tranny
yikes

>Trying to think of a superweapon for my TC
>Can't think of a way to give it skill depth beyond 'point at enemy and watch them die'
I really love the way the BFG works, even though that's because of hardware limitations instead of deliberate design. The two big factors with the BFG are timing and positioning, due to the way its tracers work and the delay it has when you fire it. I'll probably be here all fucking day trying to work out something which is different, but still has a similar level of depth to it.

>>8011692
lol

yeah, okay
and then mancubus killed me

>>8011717
what wad?

>>8011725
HFFM MAP09

>>8011726
ahh haven't played it got it stored for the future. looks good, did you kill the archvilles yet?

>>8011692
Make a black hole thrower that sucks in everything too close to it (including you).
I think Spaghetti Weapons had something similar.

>>8011728
I just beat that map, probably the best one so far.

>>8011739
Oh boy you have no fucking idea what you're about to get hit with anon
Keep us posted

>>8011739
>He hasn't reached The Leather Club yet
You're in for a treat, Anon.

introducing the latest gestapo dossier:

https://www.doomworld.com/profile/16880-rd/content/?type=core_statuses_status

>>8011757
lol, I knew the dw clique was insufferable, but I didn't know they went so far as to bother jerking each off on their discount facebook profiles.

>>8011757
Hey cupcaketactics, how goes it? I don't have anything to say, just hi and thanks for stopping by

How do i pistol start Tricks and Traps on UV?

>>8011791
Howdy! My pleasure.

>>8011494
im doin my best ok

it's not saturday here, but it's close enough

>>8011692
Do you even need one?

>>8011798
>it's not saturday here
BUT IT IS HERE! SO HOW ABOUT WE GET THOSE SCREENSHOTS GOING? WHAT'VE YOU BEEN WORKING ON, SHOW US YOUR MAPS/MODS/ETC!

>>8011798
>Sunken Land
MORE LIKE SUNKRR LAND.
btw, weren't you making a map for Violent Rumble?

>>8011757
If I'm releasing anything again, it will be to DB first. Or maybe iddqd.ru first.

>>8011798
Neat. If I recall correctly, you mentioned once that you tried to reach 3DR for Realms Deep... I'm not mistaken, right? If so, was there any progress with that besides straight ignore?

Why aren't Mansion and Club Doom canon?

>>8011809
I'm currently working on new help screens. Kustam's third page is a little cramped though. But at least the medi-tool is no longer shitty and convoluted like it was earlier.

>>8011402

>>8011495

>>8011112

>>8011402
>erik, he's choice

>>8011402
<3

>>8011757
What kind of autist uses Doomworld as a blog? Post your shit, find good shit to play, and leave.

>>8011809
It's not much, but I made a weapon I'm really happy with. It's a hypno ray. If you kill an enemy with it, it'll become your ally. I also made it so the player can walk through hypnotised enemies. It does need some more work, like a special effect indicating which enemies are hypnotised. I also can't work out what I want to do with the altfire. Should I make it so you can direct hypnotised enemies to walk to particular areas? Maybe it should make a hypnotised enemy stand still on hit? Or maybe it could store a hypnotised enemy and deploy it later?

Also, anyone know a decent program for converting shit into webms? I'm tired of using a shitty website.

>>8011921
I use webm for retards/bakas.

>>8011921
And I forgot my webm aaaaaaaaa

>>8011813
I was, but I'm focusing on rekkr atm due to pressing future life events... I may not get my VR map done on time, but we'll see. I may get burnt out on this picture and need a diversion. I have ideas for it, but only a skeleton of a structure atm...
>>8011824
No I only joked that my invitation was lost in the mail. They haven't contacted me, and it would be backwards for me to contact them. And even if they did, I don't have anything put together in time for their event (trailer or whatever)
But it'll be fun to watch while I plug away at my painting here anyway...

>>8011924
Thanks Anon, that's going to save me a fair bit of grief.

>>8011001
Is there some weapon mod with this ssg?

Brutal Doom 2 when?

In the middle of Going Down, really fun so far. Situations are crazy but nothing feels slaughter-y, a very impressive balance

>>8011010
I figure I might as well ask. Some people complained that some of the sounds in HFFM are too loud, can you name which ones? I don't have the best hearing anymore, too many concerts.

>>8011739
>best one so far
Really? I appreciate the praise, but I think that MAP10 is gonna knock you out of your shoes.

>>8011795
I can't make a webm longer than 30 seconds without it going to shit. You still get it.

Leather club was good. Almost got stuck in the corner of the basement. Gym being a "secret" is a nice touch.

Not a fan of gotta go fast or you die couple of maps before that though.

>>8011979
I did this by accident when I decided to pistol-start the map.

>>8011978
>the sounds in HFFM are too loud, can you name which ones?
Honestly, only the chaingun was too loud, and you fixed it. The sounds are all right now.

Trying to compile a Quake map but I apparently have a brush with too many faces. Any way to find that brush in Trenchbroom from this, or do I just have to check them manually?

>>8011757
>DB
>fascist friendly
That's gay as fuck, who cares? I don't go there to socialize with the mouthbreathers there, just like I don't socialize with the faggots on Doomworld.

>>8011993
Open the .map file in notepad++ and jump to line 37516, note the location of one of its vertices, then jump to that vertex in Trenchbroom.
Or just recall the most complex object in the map and cut it in half. Only time ive seen that error was when i made a high-poly-by-1996-game-standards sphere.

>>8011981
>Not a fan of gotta go fast or you die couple of maps before that though
That's like the best map in the set IMO

>>8011220
kek

>>8011402

a noobie question - how do i play wolfenstein x? i believe it's a doom 2 conversion.

>>8011921
>>8011925

>>8011330
Finished Hellbound and Vomitoreum recently, and finished SIGIL yesterday which I really liked. Might play Whitemare 2, along with any other sequels I haven't finished yet (golden souls 2, epic 2, etc)

>>8012004
Thanks anon, that helped a ton. There's apparently a 'select by line number' tool under edit, but it doesn't actually select anything when I put in a number.

>>8011979
Somehow I actually love this incredibly dumb shit for no reason:
>Hit air with Knife in Wolf3D - everyone nearby comes for your ass...
>Hit air with Fist in Doom/2 - everyone nearby comes for your ass...
>Hit air with Ax in Quake - everyone nearby comes for your ass...
Also I wonder is this the reason why in Q2 you werent given a melee weapon of any sort (the GZ ChainFist doesnt count as its overall crap)

>>8011402

What did they mean by this

>>8012091
Unironically action doom 1. Not even joking here.

>>8011809
So in GMOTA when you punch dudes enough times as Blaz you get a defense upgrade and throw different punches with no comboing, I decided to go back and make those special punches beefier, they hit pretty hard too.
I'm also testing out punching not giving mana on hit, see how well that works, if I do this right I can give fists their own special playstyle if players just want to beat the shit out of dudes.

>>8012098
So how do you get the cleaving effect on the punches? Are you using A_Explode or is there some other wizardry going on?

>>8012104
The uppercut just uses a_explode, some of the other punches just emit an actor that causes some AOE flinching.

>>8012095

Elaborate?

>>8012107
There's a furry porn easter egg and it's a cacoward winning wad, so it kinda fits the bill lol

>>8012108
Please provide the texturename - for scientific reasons of course ;^)

>>8011491
IMO, E1 is only really great in M3, M5, M6, and M7.

>>8011330
Ancient Aliens. I really like it, but sometimes I get the feeling this is all above my skill level.
Also, map 9 was shit. You've got all these small but well crafted maps and then you get this overly long bullshit hitscan spam level that bores me to tears every time. The Nectar Flow actively killed my previous two playthrough attempts and I had to force myself to power through it this time.

>>8011979
This is why I love Tricks and Traps. The optional areas generally have the weapons, but if you know what you're doing, you dont even need them.

>try to download Project Malice
>have to enter a fucking discord
>discord room doesn't exist anymore (or at least I can't access it
>randomly find it in some sprite dump thread on zdoom forums ( but it's a version from january)
good mod but who the fuck though it was a good idea to make it this inacessible

>>8012041
>>8011330
finally managed to start wolfenstein x but it looks way crappier than i saw on a stream.

>>8012157
Some idiots do it in an attempt to get more attention on their work and build a fanbase around it.
Really the better way to do that is just put the fucking mod out there for people to download and play it. I hate it when people make it inconvenient to download a fucking mod

>>8012157
also if anyone has the most up-to-date version, please post

>>8012157
Wait, are you talking about this https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=69492 or is there another Project Malice out there?

>>8012165
this is Malice, I'm talking about Project Malice
confusing, I know. I only learned about it because of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl0O_rpuM5M
there doesn't seem to be any thread for it in any forum

>>8012170
I just noticed that about 30 seconds after posting that. It IS fucking confusing. My bad. From the looks of things, the latest versions will stay in their cool kids club discord, unless someone else joined and put it out there for other people to download.

>>8012146
I like map09 (and 28), but I also like resurgence.

>>8012172
this is the version I got, can't even remember where exactly
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jfpme87llzkitmz/Project_Malice_1-31-2021.pk3/file

>>8012146
I'm playing it on Hurt Me Plenty and it's above my skill level, like Plutonia has nothing on this and the traps are just so brutal at times, still very pretty.

>>8012176
I couldn't get close to finishing this wad even with the most bullshit OP (but still playabe and not a jokewad like russian overkill) weapon packs I could find
eventually I just godmoded through to see how it ended
as you said, nice visuals, nice music but wouldn't play again

>>8012176
>>8012179
I'm on UV and using final doomer plus allowing saves (outside of combat). I'm just trying to have fun, I don't care about the challenge just yet. I tried pistol starting it a while back but it got a bit much.

Finished HFFM, wasn't expecting a meme wad from 4chins to be good but it was more fun than some of the Cacowards wads.

Personal favorites:
Somewhat possible
The Leather Club
Jawbreaker
I Sawed the demons (this one gets my CBT award)

I think I have a weird taste in maps so I didn't really enjoy map10 everyone here seems to be jerking off to. But yeah, good shit. >>8011978

>tfw just realised that boom forgot to have separate strings for non-door actions that require any/all keys, resulting in switches getting called doors in the messages when you don't meet such key requirements.

>>8012170
Looks kinda cool, wonder why it's not distributed more widely, is it unfinished? Anyway, share it if you do find it.

>>8012215
>>8012175

>>8012216
I mean if you ever find newer versions.

>>8011757
Why should /vr/ care about the drama from two entirely different communities to ours?

>>8011757
>this crowd has infiltrated the Doom community too
For fucks sake, why do they keep getting important roles? They only want to police peoples thoughts and opinions and have no interest in the games themselves.

I just want to enjoy video games, retro gaming is one of the last bastions of fun with no agendas and these assholes want to take that too.

Operation Body Count and Corridor 7 are on steam now.

Can any of you script wizards tell me how to make Doom Tournament's Flak Cannon to NOT PENETRATE every single enemy in its path?
I know for a fact that original UT's Flak doesen't.
I'm, trying to tweak and rebalance the mod since the dps/damage values are all sorts of wack, like Rocketlauncher dealing 1/3 of the DPS original Doom's RL (122 vs 360) does no matter the mode, Marisa's way of balancing things is a bit bizzare to me

https://github.com/OrdinaryMagician/flak_m/blob/master/zscript/flakcannon.zsc

The flak in the code penetrates every enemy in the line no matter the distance and status. As far as I can understand, it's supposed to "accumulate" until enemy is gibbed then pass through, however it always passes through regardless of if the enemy is gibbed or alive.

I can fiddle with the code, arrays and values to tweak things just fine, but for the love of me I can't figure this feature out.

>>8012203
I trying not to save scum but it's getting rough, like there are so many closets full of boners.

>>8012282
Mtpain27 did a great video on "save scumming" a while back.
Basically, if you aren't having fun because you're dying so much, there's nothing stopping you from using saves. Doom is a game, you're meant to enjoy it. If you aren't saving mid-combat then it isn't save scumming, its using an actual feature of the game the devs recommended people use.
Pistol start, no saving isn't the "right" way to play, its just a challenge you can do if you want.

>>8011345
Not sure what your context is, but plain non-entity brushes, i seriously doubt it. Brushes are static, which is why they get "compiled". If you could change them it would invalidate the culling/visibility/lighting compilation outputs.

>>8011024
>>8011220
I thought wojaks were jannied on sight? They can't keep getting away with it!

>>8012282
>>8012203

Nothing to be ashamed of boys, this shit is meant to be hard as balls.

Using saves is the only way to play maps like these and there's no point pretending otherwise. I mean you could grind out UV pistolstarts on your first blind run I guess, but I don't see what that would achieve besides wasting your own time, because a lot of the traps/ambushes are essentially puzzles that have a fixed solution.

The point of this stuff is replayability, once you are familiar with the maps you can start trying for a no death run, then pistol starts, and so on. Trying to do it without saves on your first run would be like a rock climber doing a no-harness free climb on a rockface they never climbed before.

>>8011024
>>8011220
No

>>8011158
Mod?

>>8011262
>>8012329
Doom Radys

>>8012315
This. Doom has too many retards, that try uv pistol starts at first playthrough and then even go whining out, if the difficulty equals Plutonia on hmp. It's like acting fake-tough. Impersonating that one is a hardcore player, and then going blaming wads if they can't beat them. Even /vr/ is full of those bastards, who insist that even Syringe and Rowdy Rudy 2 are just too hard unbeatable slaughtershit.

>>8012357
I think that's because Doom 1 just isn't that hard on UV, Doom 2 is just a little harder, and then you don't see the challenge dial get cranked up until Ultimate Doom and Final Doom, where UV is actually intended as hard for seasoned players.

>>8012357
Syringe was easy.

>>8012357
tryhards are always an issue everywhere in every scenario

>>8012362
Yes it is, but even in these threads i've occasionally seen anons who claim it's modern unbeatable revenant/archvile spam.

Hey, I thought the gloves for HFFM looked cool as fuck, and I kinda wanna use them for something. Is the anon who made them still here? I wanna credit him if I do.

>>8011757
Immediately two faggots comment to APOLOGIZE and pledge their disallegiance to DB. How cucked is our world?

>>8012383
There's always been people without spine. The less you occupy your mind with them, the better.

>>8012361

It's kinda Doom 1's fault yeah, it set the false expectation that UV is the "real" way to play Doom and any other difficulty gives you a watered down experience- Because in Doom 1, that is kinda true.

I remember when I was younger people would talk about Doom and how it threw massive hordes of enemies at you, and I always thought they were talking shit, because that wasn't the Doom I remembered. I remembered it just being a really primitive old corridor shooter But as it turns out, that's because when I was a kid, I only ever played it on the lower difficulties. Going back to it as an adult and trying UV was a real "Oh SHIT, I fucking get it now" moment.

So, naturally, people take that same understanding and apply it to modern wads, when the reality is that UV on modern wads is usually just unnecessarily difficult because it's MEANT to be a challenge. A wad like Ancient Aliens still provides a decent challenge on HMP and HNTR. Zoomers have just had their brains ruined by the GIT GUD meme, which made them forget difficulty options actually serve a purpose.

Hell if it makes you faggots feel better, think of it this way. Difficulty seletion on modern Doom wads actually goes like this: Hard, Harder, Harder Plus, Meme Tier, and Literal Joke.

>>8012387
>when the reality is that UV on modern wads is usually just unnecessarily difficult because it's MEANT to be a challenge
Yeah, because often it's designed for and by people who have been playing the game for 20, almost 30 years now, and who still want a challenge.
I consider myself reasonably seasoned, but I will drop down to HMP for many .wads which I know for a fact are real hard, and sometimes that's just the right kind of challenge for me, very tough, but very enjoyable.

>Zoomers have just had their brains ruined by the GIT GUD meme, which made them forget difficulty options actually serve a purpose.
The reality is that the difficulty levels are for the purpose of gitting gud, you don't start at the top.

>>8012383
It's just usual Doomworld mod going full leftist rage and 2 guys commenting. Most of Doomworld neither DBP cares of bitchfit between dew, rd and 40oz. I've got different name accounts on both and I post here without identity. Faithfulness to one forum is retarded. I see same kind retardization here, where some anons don't want to play stuff like Eviternity, Three's A Crowd or Rowdy Rudy 2, just because they got cacowards from Doomworld. It's no different from some bonker leftists of refusing to play DBPs. I'm only faithful to Doom and good wads. I play DBPs, /vr/ projects and cacoward winning wads, if they are good. I'm not playing this game for political reason.

>>8012387
I almost started following your argument, but then you said
>Zoomers have just had their brains ruined by the GIT GUD meme
And I immediately realized you are talking shit (source: your anus). Zoomers DO NOT care about gitting gud, they will bitch and moan about ableism and gatekeeping when met with challenge in vidya. For christ sake, they made a doom mod that allows you to play maps without any monsters.

>>8011757
They must really be expecting a blowback for not giving it a cacaward if they're starting damage control this far in advance.

>>8012398
Zoomers vary, there's always some who take the game to heart and put in the effort. Doom is an easy game to just drop into, and learning how to play it and be decent isn't difficult.

>>8011757
>>8012401
"40oz you're sperging out too soon", they said. "You can't know they're gonna snub DBP37 at Cacowards yet", they said.

>>8012387
I think due to prevalence of UV players and how doom difficulty works, UV is probably the intended one and others are for practice, maybe.

>>8012406
>Zoomers vary
They're really not.

>>8012401
Purpose of cacowards has mostly been kind of "historical canonization" of wads. And by that I mean the fact, that the wads won't be forgotten in 10 years as people can always delve to search them from cacowards. I have no fear, that DBPs would be forgotten, even if they don't get cacoward. DBPs are the main reason that attracts people to Doomer Boards, and it's becoming as active as Doomworld. Hell at this point, they could start their own awards for wads.

>>8012398
play maps without any monsters.
But GZDoom lets you do this by default

>>8012396

It has nothing to do with politics anyway, these so called "leftists" have never read a word of Marx, they're just following Twitter idpol trends. Likewise the "fascists" on the other side aren't ideological extremists, they're just fucking /pol/ retards.

It's just two cliques of different retards who think they are smarter than they are.

>>8012416
I have to agree with you. In the end, it boils down to "my forums can beat up your forums". I never really did follow it as I was younger, but I wonder that did New Doom forums, or zdoom forums have this kind of rivalry with Doomworld years go.

>>8012398

Nah, there are definitely zoomers who think that way, because soulslike (where the git gud meme comes from) is their generation's most "hardcore" series.

The defining zoomer aspect is that they uncritically hold that opinion purely becauuse that's what the internet said, and they can't think independently of whatever their favourite subreddit says.

I personally don't see a problem with people doing pistol starts on a blind playthrough. Unless otherwise specified, maps are typically balanced so that pistol starts are doable. Some mapsets even encourage pistol starts, as carryovers can reduce the intended challenge.
Blind Saveless playthroughs are a meme, however. Saveless runs are fine for when you have already gotten familiar with the map and know what to expect. But in Blind runs, it is bound to lead into more frustration than actual fun, especially when delving into much larger maps. Decino learned this the hardway with his Blind playthrough of BTSX E2 UV+.

>>8012316
>>8012312

Wojaks are not the problem. Schizos spamming them are.

>>8012416
I'd say there's a specific way of thinking that is way older and way broader than Marx, that produces ideas people would intuitively call "leftist".

>>8011757
Ah, good to see AUGER;ZENITH is going to get snubbed in favour of "big-ass flashy room textured with Otex, and is filled to the brim with a gorillion revenants wad #515272"

>>8012421
For me original wojaks, that are used for humor are not the problem. Problem starts when retards start to form their arguments with nothing but a wojak as a reply. It kills the discussion and is a low effort bait.

>>8012412
There's zoomers doing Plutonia on UV in this very thread.

>>8012424
I think they're actually up to 550k by now.

>>8012414
Vanilla Doom lets you do that too.

>>8012424
Yeah, shame that "long ass corridor filled to the brim with pointless doors" won't win a cacoward.

>Doomworld won't give me cacowards because I used CC4 and not OTEX.

>>8012429
Ah yeah, having one stinker in 20-map megawad surely disqualifies it from cacoward. Gotta make space for all the judges projects!

>>8012409
Well, after they take care of obvious awards like Lullaby and Heartland, there will be very few spots left and like a million contenders for them. And I just don't see any judge passionately making a case for A;Z.

>>8012424
There hasn't been lot of those wads this year. I could see Heartland, Arrival and Doom 2 in Spain Only receiving awards. Only Heartland of those has few slaughter battles towards the end, but even those are in the usual Skillsaw style where you are given plenty space, health and ammo. I'm reminding you that Wormwood EU did not get cacoward last year (even though it deserved it). It was colorful, hard and had lot of those Ribbiks' style slaughter-lite scenarios. It was also 5/5 wad. Instead they choose Three's A Crowd, Mutabor, Syringe and Rowdy Rudy 2 before it. All with old school gameplay (though all enjoyable too). I do get critism toward corruption in cacowards, but at least get your facts straight or your opinions start to look like low effort baits.

>>8012423

Maybe, but even so it has little to do with the "muh trannies, muh feelings" bullshit these faggots spend all their time whining about. They're usually deep in horse-shoe theory territory, with thoroughly purtan aspects.

>>8012424
I dunno, Micro Slaughter is actually pretty fun.

>>8012441
Yeah, the fights in that are fun, because they don't outstay their welcome

>>8012434
Did 2020 have any judge project receiving cacoward, outside the on runner-up? 2019 had Wayfarer, but it was actually good.

>>8012440
When applied to economy this frame of mind leads to communism, when applied to feelings it leads to trannies. Basically it's a way of thinking that everything a person needs hard enough is rightfully theirs.

>>8012441
Almost forgot this. I loved it. I could see it getting cacoward, and I'm not even sorry.

>>8011757
God I wish I had throwaway account on DW, would've gone calling everyone who suggested DBP37 in Cacowards Mentionation thread fascists and demanded to change op post in DBP37 thread so it says that it is made by Hatsune Miku, not Doomer Boards.

>>8012419
That's what I like about Ancient Aliens so far. Its balanced for pistol starts but works in continuous too. You're never given too much ammo and the better guns are towards the end of a chapter.

>decino says he preffered btsx ep1 over ep2

Ok good so I'm not crazy. Also has anyone else used the term 'Magnum Opus Syndrome' to describe megawads because this is the first time I've heard it but it explains why I disliked ep2 and JPCP

>>8011014 How do I connect server with ip address?

>>8012463
Yeah, that shit gets really old pretty fast when playing through each of the Community Chests, Especially 4, Jesus fuck that was overkill

I hate chainsaw.

You can't have overly long map if you give players limited space.
You can still have mappers squeeze hundreds of monsters in it.

>>8012463
>even decino is getting tired of overly long bullshit maps
Makes sense. I'd like BTSX1 more if it wasn't all the same fucking techbase for the whole game though.
I always get bored and drop it by map 10 every attempt.

>>8012429
pleb mindset

>>8012479
Hell, I guess another reason he gave up on that format is watching him dick around for half an hour after finishing the map, for some bullshit obtuse secret

>new decino video
>mentions his a key is fucked
Funny coincidence, I'm having the same issue.

>>8012429
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Map12. The references are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of doom mapping and history most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head.

>>8012474 No chainsaw kinda useful for dealing with the pinky

>>8012463
>has anyone else used the term 'Magnum Opus Syndrome' to describe megawads
All the time.

>>8012491
Decino confirmed to be your split personality, caused by trauma of being bad at doom.

>>8012474
Chainsaw is a noob weapon you don't need to time like berserk punch.

>>8012493
Give me berserk any day.

>>8012387
>>8012361
My take on this is that many people see "killing monsters" as main content of Doom, and UV always has the most monsters, thus it is the "most complete experience".
By that logic if you didn't play in UV you didn't finish the wad in its entirety and there's still content you were not allowed to see if you played on lower difficulty.
And thus they force themselves to play UV then cry about how the wad didn't allow them to see the entirety of its content because they were filtered by difficulty.

Another hot take: original Doom 1/2 and many many other wads are never meant to be pistol-start-every-level. If it was otherwise, then the game wouldve forced pistolstart on you. Pistol start and the hardships involved with it are a punishment for dying (and it's on author to take it into accound, and some times they just don't), and unless authors explicitly state otherwise, players should treat it as such.

>>8012275
anyone?

>>8012263
they also infiltrated TES and Fallout, hence the nexus shitstorm of late when nexus shut them down.

>>8011757
nooooo ur facist-friendly noooo buaaaaaaaaa

Quadruple cancer inside

>>8012518
First time I've ever seen a sloth fursona
I want to beat the shit out of it

Look where you are now John boy

>another thread ruined by forum drama bullshit and HURR DURR MY WAY OF PLAYING DOOM IS BETTER THAN YOURS
fuck
you
all

>>8012521
>another thread is ruined by metaposting and HURR DURR MY WAY OF POSTING IS BETTER THAN YOURS
Suck it down

>>8012424
Shit, we did all of Temporal Tantrum in CC4tex not Otex. Enraged Eggplant, Lunch Lunch, is it too late to start over?

>>8012212
>CBT award
wat

>>8012525
Burn everything

>>8012525
Do you guys still working on this? I wanted to play the demo to give you some feedback, but not sure if this thing of yours is still alive.

>>8012518
>>8012519
trans gay goth furry with faggot hairdo and a nose+lip piercing
is it possible to include more cancer into one pfp?

>>8012521

>>8012542
We're waiting on me to rebalance my maps now that I know what the hell I'm doing, then we're releasing another demo in the next week or so.

>>8012529
Cock and ball torture (CBT), occasionally known as penis torture, dick torture, or male genitorture/male genital torture, is a sexual activity involving the application of pain or constriction to the penis or testicles. This may involve directly painful activities, such as genital piercing, wax play, genital spanking, squeezing, ball-busting, genital flogging, urethral play, tickle torture, erotic electrostimulation, kneeing or kicking.[1] The recipient of such activities may receive direct physical pleasure via masochism, or emotional pleasure through erotic humiliation, or knowledge that the play is pleasing to a sadistic dominant. Many of these practices carry significant health risks.[2]

>>8011757
Niggers

>>8012212
>this pic but replace the guy on the left with a baron of hell

>>8012518
this isn't even tangentially related to doom you /v/-tier baiting asshole
is janny sleeping on the wheel or something? a couple of days ago you couldn't post anything involving DW or twitter here without getting your post nuked and a 3 day ban

>>8012581
Suck it, mop licker.

>REKKR? More like DEAD NIGGR! You should have seen the tire tracks on this moon cricket's face when I ran him over after doing some PCP with Trent Reznor! Looked like a flattened tube of charcoal toothpaste! Suck it down, Revae!

>>8012542
>>8012547
It will also have two new Washing Machine Enthusiasts maps and difficulty levels implemented for Brxyz's map, as well as some miscellaneous improvements.

>>8011757
Now they're fucking cherrypicking posts to prove that DB is fascist.

>>8012567
why would you say that about my map

Has Doomguy's dick ever been measured? Would it be huge and hard as shit because he's a bad-ass, or tiny and non-functional which makes him pissed off all of the time?

>>8012491
>his a key is fucked
>fucked a key
holy fuck pedocino confirmed? not the heckin wholsom boi

For anyone else enjoying playing against bots in UT99, I put together a map pack of high quality maps, 14 DM and 2 DOM. These maps in particular are medium to large in size because those are the ones most fun to play with bots. I included one small map (DM-Obsessive), but I think it plays well enough for 6 players. I also included two DOM variants of the DM maps. One of the DM maps (DM-Frantic) also has a DOM variant, but I think it's not very well done so I left it out.

Most maps here are from authors who have also made official UT maps (after they were recognized for their unofficial maps for Unreal) or have other unofficial maps that have been endorsed by CliffyB ("Ownage" maps).
- Chris 'plutonic' Blundell
- David 'DavidM' Münnich
- Eric 'Ebolt' Boltjes
- Rich 'Akuma' Eastwood
- Mark 'OZ' Austin

One of the maps included here, DM-Seed (pic related), actually had poor/incomplete bot pathing, but someone at UT99.org did a great job at fixing it up.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/w0ghkbl6v9xmglq/UT99_More_DM_Maps.zip/file

Bonus Pack 4 is required for some of these maps, and you should have that installed anyway.
https://unrealarchive.org/patches-updates/unreal-tournament/bonus-packs/bonus-pack-4/index.html

If you don't have them yet, you might also want to get the Ownage maps:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2ha2ggf2b9576yr/Ownage_Maps.zip/file

>>8012610
Very flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5q9LnCP0Hs

Based or cringe?

>>8012628
cringe

>>8012628
He's alright. Better than the aussie and brit

>>8012639
Who's the brit? Icarus or whatever his name is?

>>8012640
Yeah

>>8012628
ELDER GOD TIER
Ross

PATRICIAN TIER
Sseth, Mandalore

BASED TIER
Icarus

OKAY BUT SHIT POLITICAL VIEWS TIER
Civvie

MEH TIER
Gman, Dwars

WORSE THAN SHIT PISS FURRIES AND POLAND COMBINED TIER
AVGN

>>8012626
Cool.

>>8012639
Nationalism, or actual reasons? Gman is a faggot, but Icarus is fun. Guy knows he sucks at Doom, but he's here to have fun.

>>8012654
>Ross
yikes

>>8012628
He's entertaining. I lost respect for him personally and all the other youtubers who helped bail out violent socialist terrorists last summer, but I can seperate art from the artist.

>>8012669
I'm French. It's in my DNA. He seems like a fine lad, but my lineage forbids me from being able to listen to him speak without popping a blood vessel.

>>8012654
I wish there was an intelligent version of dwars. Going over source ports is cool but the dude sounds like he's gargling marbles.

>>8012432
There's literally nothing wrong with CC4 Tex.

>>8012654
>Dwars
He's okay, I can't see the issue with him, outside of being a boring decino clone.

>>8011798
>sunken land
WHAT ARE YOU DOIN IN MY SWAMP

>>8012681
I'm a Britfag and have zero problem with you guys. This historical rivalry thing most nations have is pure retardation.
I've met so many Americans who automatically hate me just because I'm from the UK, which makes even less sense because they won the war. Plus it was three centuries ago, what the fuck.

>>8012474
The chainsaw is good for pinkies, fantastic if you have a convenient chokepoint, and can at times be decent against random monsters if they happen to be brushing up against a narrow gap which you can poke them through, but where they can't reach you.
It's not the easiest weapon to use against every monster in every instance, no, but it has some real utility.

>map 15 of Ancient Aliens
Huh, so this is where its going to turn bullshit, huh.

>>8012697
Thats the only slaughtery map at that point. You don't see anymore until like map28.

>>8012695
I'm an American and never met anyone here who hates Brits. I've seen them make jokes about the war etc, but never actually met anyone who cares.
UNLESS YOU WANNA GO FOR ROUND TWO MOTHERFUCKERare there any good historical doom mods? The few set in the Vietnam war are the only ones I can think of.

>>8012697
Bunny hopping your way through 4chan posts, eh?

>>8012687
I watched his game reviews, it was so unprofessional. Half of the time he was just reading on-screen text with his annoying voice.

>>8012705
I must be unlucky then, because I've been in a few communities who took it as a free pass to be assholes about it.
As for the wads, no idea. It seems like an oddly underused subject.

>>8012707
>I used huh twice
I didn't actually notice at the time

I wish Doom had faster weapon switching.

>>8012726
It would be cool if weapon switching was a variable.

>>8012726
>>8012728
Copy the decorate definition for all the weapons, add a 0 tic frame to each Lower and Raise state, then replace the default one with these. Tadah, now the weapons raise and lower faster, add additional 0 tic frames to make it even faster.

Adding 0 tic frames to Raise and Lower works even in DeHacked, I think.

>>8012601
>Blue checkmark with a vicious little opinion that twitter just allows them to spout with no consequences
I hate these people so much. Its aggravating that they'll never be held accountable for spewing literal hatred on social media because they were on the "correct" side at the time.

>>8012654
>Ross
who?
>Sseth, Mandalore
Not retro fps related, the fuck?
>Icarus
Gzdoom autism and I can't stand his gayass voice
>Civvie on top of Dwars
Cringe

>>8012736
>Adding 0 tic frames to Raise and Lower works even in DeHacked, I think.
Fast weapon switch is still possible but you have to use the unused offset parameters. It works pretty well but not as well as it does in Decorate, for example if you switch while shooting your weapon will freeze for a frame or two after lowering.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118257-how-to-change-weapon-raise-and-lower-speed-in-dehacked/

>>8012463
I do think him trying to do blind saveless 100% runs in E2 made him a bit more bitter about those larger levels. But Magnum Opus Syndrome is a fair enough description (And I'm sure E3 will have a bit of this at times, too). I don't think its nearly as egregious as it is in most Community Chest style projects, as E2 does have quite a few short maps inbetween the longer ones, and E2M20 allows you to skip keys if you dont care for 100%. But I do think I could have done without E2M04.

>>8012421
Psychos are even worse.

Decided to dedicate this month to sequels. Whitemare 2, Epic 2, Golden Souls 2, Scythe 2, and Plutonia 2.

This'll probably be my last usage of Final Doomer+ (for real this time), gonna miss it.

>>8012626
>One of the maps included here, DM-Seed (pic related), actually had poor/incomplete bot pathing, but someone at UT99.org did a great job at fixing it up.
>https://www.mediafire.com/file/w0ghkbl6v9xmglq/UT99_More_DM_Maps.zip/file
Most of these maps are kewl man. Thanks.

Found this while playing TF2 last night.

>>8012768
that reminds me
any doom mods that give the chaingunner tf2 heavy lines?

>>8012654
Friendly reminder that Ross systemically lies about games he reviews, putting them in the bad light for the le-righteously-angry-reviewer-rant factor
He did it with numerous games like Revenant and Messiah (the amount of bullshit in those is especially high) etc.

Icarus is pleb tier, he is only noteable because of the subject he covers.

You think Doom community will eventually move away from GZDoom? This already happened with mapping scene, do you think TCs and mods will move towards EDGE and Eternity as well?

>>8012609
I don't know, it has a hot start and a couple of cyberdemon fights with little space to maneuver.

>>8012609
I don't know, it has a hot start and a couple of cyberdemon fights with very little space to maneuver. Not saying that it's bad, I liked it.

>>8012818
People moved to (G)ZDoom to get away from EDGE in the first place, and Eternity's modding capabilities don't even match DECORATE, let alone ZScript. MBF21 is much more likely to see widespread adoption among the lower-level modders that just want to make somewhat different guns and enemies.

>>8012818
ZDoom/GzDoom mapping was never very big, Skulltag/Zandronum always made up the majority of that, and it still remains a niche.
GzDoom is popular because of modding the gameplay and graphics, can't do Hideous Destructor with Extended DeHacked.

I don't see people moving away from GzDoom or ZDoom based ports unless something really innovative and powerful comes around, which also is more optimized for the kind of stuff people want to do. Even then, you have to get over the hurdle of "But all the cool content is for GzDoom!"

>>8012827
Yeah, people are gonna be mapping for MBF21 because it does most of what they need, and given that this is a format that's developing, it'll be more capable with time, all while running with less demanding ports which lets you do a lot of the basic fancy stuff which never needed to be exclusive to GzDoom to begin with, like just adding basic Decorations and effects without sacrificing existing assets, or UMAPINFO.

All that DSDA/Woof needs to do next is to add support for truecolor .png and more kinds of audio formats (the latter will probably have to come with a revision of the old and busted audio system of PrBoom+, but people are probably interested in seeing that done anyway, it's just a matter of who's willing to put in the labor for doing it).

>>8012818
I think the only way people would move away from GZDoom is if it stopped being developed/maintained.

Playthrough video of map11 of HFFM is up (Just Be Yourself). Quite a ballbuster, with some nonlinearity. I think my route is the easiest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG43KAHeerk

>>8012818
Crispy has basically reinvigorated going back to basics. Now, prboom+ is finally getting the love it needs after being stagnant for goddamn forever (zdoom is where most of that attention went). Woof is cool, but prboom+um pretty much makes it a novelty. A ton of gzdoomers get ass mad about people moving away from it without realizing it's not the feature set that makes it bad, it's the complete lack of standardization or backwards compatibility.

>>8012893
It's not a complete lack of these things, but they do have a tendency to incorporate new features and then remove them or alter them in the next release. I've seen them converse with other port teams to try and standardize things, so it's curious that they don't do it every time. I guess it's the, usually friendly, competition of being *the* go-to port.

>>8012401
DBP37 doesn't deserve a Caco. If it cut out like 4 or so not very good maps (like Map 12) it would have a stronger argument. There's just too much higher quality stuff ahead of it.

Finally. Die you "alien" bastards!
Are the secret maps worth it? I have a choice of going to the next level or map 31.
The Final Doomer BFG continues to turn deadly situations into a joke. Its good you only get it right at the end of the level, although the cyberdemon basically played it for me once I found the best places to bunker down.
>found a secret invuln when everything is already dead
Y-yeah, thanks.

>>8012449

No, you have it inside out friend. It is a kind of radical individualism, it is an inherent selfishness. It is the logical endpoint of decadent Western liberalism.

Socialism is a collective ideology based on the needs of the group, not the individual.

>>8012971
Map31 is in a totally different style, made by Stewboy, who composed the soundtrack. 32 is a typical skillsaw map.

>>8012971
MAP31 is Stewboys map, and I kinda like it. Plays much more like an exploration map rather than a combat focused one, so you're mileage may vary.
MAP32 is good, though theres nothing too fancy about it beyond having a different texturing aesthetic compared to the rest of the wad.

Dean of Doom
based or cringe?

>>8012626

Based, thanks Anon.

>>8013013
Regardless of whether I agree with him or not, I think he's based for dedicating an entire channel towards mapset reviews.

Making a TC. I have some enemies planned out but I feel like I need one more bread and butter common enemy to fill out the upper tier, but I can't really think of any ways to make it interesting or fun... would anyone here care to be my idea guy?

>>8013013

Pretty good, I like videos like his because they give you an idea of what a wad is like without having to just straight watch somebody play it 100% in real time.

His ratings are arbitrary as fuck however, he talks about a map being shitty and bland or having unfair traps then gives it a good score anyway. Not sure if they are even meant to be serious though so ehh.

>>8013034
My interpretation is that if he rags on a map, but then gives it a higher than expected grade, it's probably because he respects the map as more a case of not being his thing rather than being poor design.

>>8013013
Based. He's the only wad review channel I can think of, and while I often disagree with him he's cool.

>>8013038
Mod?

>>8013013
Pretty comfy reviews for the most, it does get kinda annoying when he starts doing overly verbose ramblings like a wannabe English major, though.

>>8013038
sod off

>>8013029
Baron, but faster attacks and with less hp

>>8013081
Perfect, I'll call him a knight

>>8013013
He claims to be bad at Doom but routinely beats hard wads pistol start. Yes he saves often but that still takes some willpower.

>>8013075
This. I thought I was the only one annoyed by that.
He's a great indicator of quality, but then he starts throwing out his thesaurus for no reason randomly.

>>8013084
Anyone who does map 28 of Hell Revealed 2 pistol start has the absolute patience of a saint. let alone twice.

>>8012626
Fucking legend, thanks.

Somewhat unrelated, but are there any similar compilations for Quake 3? I thought of compiling a LAN pack with parity with Quake Live maps and mods (like Freeze Tag) alongside more popular maps; but I'd rather not waste my time if someone already did that.

>>8012726
Babel has that and its glorious. https://babel-mod.neocities.org/
I'm not a fan of the monster pack though, at least it's optional.
>>8012818
Doubt it, unless Graf has a catastrophic meltdown and closes the source & changes the license. Then I bet we'd move to a fork of an older version.

>>8012513
what happened on nexus?

>>8013135
People threw tangents and took down mods. Fucking everyone that relied on those mods for their mods or playthroughs. Nexus made this impossible pretty much as archives will be left up.

>>8011757
maybe its time for the rest of the doom community to shun doomworld. its not the fuckin end all be all of doom.
even if that comes with shunning id games.
If they got such a problem with everyone else.

Then maybe others should just dead their forum let em sit in their own shit.

>>8011930
>They haven't contacted me, and it would be backwards for me to contact them.
Alright, fair enough.
>But it'll be fun to watch while I plug away at my painting here anyway...
Indeed. Realms Deep will surely bring some cool stuff and I'm actually excited for once.
Also, I think >>8011495 needs an advice.

>>8013160
oh okay

>>8013172
I wouldn't go that far. Let's wait for them to do something truly heinous before we burn them at the stake or else we look petty. Doomer Boards make better shit then literally everyone else pretty consistently so I think it's jealousy on many member who are to pc ot tread there.

>>8013186
yeah thats true but theres no rational arguments for people like in that doomworld thread.
honestly let me use an example. ever seen someone argue with some like that about whether CNN is right wing?? or MSNBC??
Even though they obviously aren't??

They don't care at all. If what ever the opposition is. Isn't in 100 percent lockstep with their opinions. They're racist, sexist, facist. Whatever they want to label the enemy as. Whatever works.
Giving them an inch now. They'll just keep taking and taking until theres nothing left.
You'll see.

>>8012893
Crispy really is fantastic for just picking up the game and playing. It's just the original game, except you don't need to settle for some of the less nice things with Vanilla, and there's a couple of nice optional frills and features.

It really is the very best sourceport for pure Dooming.

i wonder why he got in there

>>8013214
I was a crispy vet for years and I'd agree with you, but prboom+ has come a long way which is why I based my fork on dsda doom which is a fork of prboom+ um. Software mode still looks gorgeous at higher resolutions.

>>8011809

Making my first ever non Magikus (or non unreleased TC) map...

>>8012818
The answer is No. do this people even realize that old/vanilla/boom fags are just a minority in the Doom community nowdays? I do and don't get me wrong, my sourceport of preference will be always Prboom+ but hate it or not, GZdoom will always be the most used and relevant sourceport especially when it appeals to future generations like zoomers and nu-Doomfags because of it's fancy perfomance. It doesn't even matter if some mappers still making vanilla format maps, they will play it in GZdoom with some shitty mod like project brutality or whatever anyways.

>>8013172
It doesn't take much here, but still let's be the better men and wait until they just completely fuck up and do something irreparably retarded, I'm positive that they eventually will.

>>8013186
>Doomer Boards make better shit then literally everyone else pretty consistently
Doomworld has a pretty long history with great projects though, and much of that talent is still around. DBP may be good, but are they on the level of stuff like BTSX and TNT Revilution? Not that playing these sets requires you to use or associate with Doomworld.

>>8013186
>Doomer Boards make better shit then literally everyone else pretty consistently so I think it's jealousy on many member who are to pc

Imagine actually believing this.

DBPs are fun little monthly things but they're very flawed projects that are often 1/3rd good maps, 1/3rd okay maps, and 1/3rd bad maps.

They also never get to really polish the theme and resources because they need to push them out in such a timeline.

I love them but they're not putting out Lullaby, Heartland, or Arrival level stuff.

>using launchers
>not just launching a terminal in the directory that has your WADs

>>8013326
I really like zdl though.

So I've been playing around with replacement textures for VR's start map (nothing fancy, just keeping the 1:1 unit to pixel ratio for textures I've scaled up in trenchbroom, standard Quake palette too) but I can't seem to get lava to change. I'm guessing it's because I can't put an * in the filename, but is there a way around that?

>>8013338
try #

>>8013356
Ah, thanks. Looks kinda retarded though, guess I'll need to do some tweaking.

>>8012697
It's the hardest map on the wad due the minimal ammo. Maps 28 and 29 are easier, because you get all the ammo you need.

>>8012979
>>8012997
>Decide to go ahead with it
>The composer's own map has a dreary, annoying track
>When almost every song in the wad has been amazing so far
For what purpose?
I'm using the cover music pack for it, but I doubt the original was any better.

>>8013419
I was playing continuous, the real problem was knowing what to do for the first wave of enemies since it looked like there was nowhere to go.
The mastermind and cyberdemon dealt with a large number of enemies for me.

>>8013305
This. I love DBPs, but claiming that they better than wads by the usual big names on Doomworld such as Skillsaw and Ribbiks is just non-sensical contrarianism. They are not supposed to be polished masterworks, but fun little monthly treats.

I cant tell if this is cute or terrifying.

>>8013029
I like how in Powerslave (DOS), the standard projectile enemy leads his shots. It makes fighting them stay engaging for the whole game.

Hey, who's still in charge of HFFM? Full Thrust needs yet another fix. The barricade that lowers after pressing the blue switch has all its lines set to impassible and that shouldn't be the case. Again, I am so sorry I keep messing up this map. You can clearly see this is my very first entry for any mapping project (but I hope it isn't my last).
I am quite surprised I just now realized this however, especially after so many people saying they completed HFFM. You think a map that couldn't be finished without using noclip would stir up some discussion.

>>8013451
is fpscarol spacemarinescum?
i unironically miss that bara id boys art

>>8013451
Never make babby shamblers into Quake. I already felt bad killing those babby cacos in Cubic Worlds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrzysAP__c

>>8012824
Thanks. It's my first map ever, and I was frustrated with myself for not being creative enough to figure out how to extend the chainsaw theme further. I'm glad people had fun with it. I did most of the testing without saves to remove any tedious stuff and to make sure its balanced around that playstyle

>>8013541
This mod is fucking sick.

>>8013451
son its not terrifying its just reality take a deep breath and appreciate quake

>>8013013
I stopped watching him after he gave a negative review of Scythe 1

>>8011495
Oh. Clovr is just super basic html. It doesn't do anything other than text and links.
Look up apache http, buy a domain and look up dynamic DNS forwarding or whatever if you need to. Some domain sellers come with one. Namecheap I think does.
You need a server if you're hosting from home too. Find an old super small office computer.
Or just host from your home computer if the power draw is light enough to be worth it. One of these idles at like 10 watts. https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimicro-home-lab-revolution/
I use one of these. Not one listed here, but another model of essentially the same thing (can't remember the exact model)...
I also have it set up on a cascaded network so it can send and receive data through the modem, but not to the router that my non server computers are on...

That's about it I guess.

>>8011495
Sorry for the late reply, btw, I missed both your posts somehow.

>>8013034
The first score is for visuals/unique ideas
The second score is difficulty.
High difficulty != good map, just the same as Pretty map != good map.

>>8013541
Neat and interesting concept. Not to mention that the visuals are quite fitting for the theme. Sucks that the main dev got mentally sick with Gender identity disorder. Non-binary, along with ""genderfluidity"" are brain disorders, or at least are phycological abnormalities.

>>8012275
anybody at all?

>>8011220
>Non-leucomiac eyes
>motherfucking plastic spectacles in 1920's
FOOKIN GARB~ITHCE! ! !

>>8013460
>Qouth mod has Vorelings
>Kona/Tronyn maps have Fiendlings
Is there any mod out there with Lil'Shabbies?

>>8013376
Wonderfull looking molten rock stew you got cooked up in there, VR-anon

>>8012893
Isn't prboom+ um also a Graf project?

>>8013707
To start, but crispy dev has gotten ahold of it and has made it really shine. Dsda doom dev has also done good work on his branch.

>>8013617
Thanks. Trying to blend different lava textures together to make Shubby's cavern seem less bland. Not too sure how to go about it though.

>>8012525
> Temporal Tantrum
Perhaps you already noticed but there's two broken secrets on map 13, good map too. I'll try to give more comprehensive feedback soon.

>>8012409
Hey mom, I'm on TV!

>>8013775
Pretty sure someone's gonna use that post to say "see! these fascists are with 4chan aaaaa" lole

>>8013813
But LunchLunch is an actual nazi. Why else would he put Hitler and swastika textures all over his maps and put SS soldiers into all his secrets?

>>8012296
>>8012315
You anons are right, it seems kinda silly I was trying to play like I'm a master when I'm still a scrub.
>>8012474
Have you tried chainsaw 64?

mcgee > sandy

>>8012357
Adding an ultra-hard difficulty level is actually bad, because it only serves to trigger FOMO and leaves players feeling psychologically unsatisfied. One of the reasons Souls is so successful is it just has the one fairly tough, but not at all impossible difficulty level. People feel like they're sharing an experience when they beat the game. You don't get that beating Scythe 2 on HMP. You don't get that beating any map that expects you to save mid-map without abusing it.

Bottom line, once you start catering to DW autists and speedfags, your wad instantly loses a mark of quality. Despite being more 'hardcore', it ultimately just feels amateurish, like playing some guy's kaizo romhack.

>>8013827
>Have you tried chainsaw 64?
Oh boy, I would sure love having twice of the thing I hate.

>>8013829
is this even a debate? inmost dens btfo all sandy maps.

>>8013758
Is that Temple of Karmack? We keep switching the map order between releases. Which secrets are broken? I'll check if they work in the current version.

>>8013817
And he enjoys German films?? The evidence is stacked against him.

>>8013847
Yeah that one. The bfg secret has some unreachable areas tagged as secret. Looks like it was just cut up after it was tagged

>>8013879
Thanks, I'll take a look and make sure it's fixed for the next release.

Any other feedback is very helpful as well

>>8013775
Kinda hard to do that without demonizing everyone who comes here, Which would be fantastically shitty.

>>8013832
The chainsaw in 64 is a lot better and actually useful.

>>8012436
>>8013305
>Lullaby
lol, literally the most blatant Caco-bait in years. It checks all the boxes of being a visually flashy single map designed to steal awards from larger and better projects. If it's a runner-up, whatever, but stealing one of the main 10 slots would be pathetic.

>>8013572
Also: you could use a subdomain. So it would be like yours.establisheddomain.xyz or whatever. There's a sit out there to do that conveniently but I don't remember where... freenet? Something like that.

>>8013939
It wasn't that fun imo. I liked the 3 cyberdemon fight. That was about it. It had issues with ammo placement and such. Most of the fights were a flat floor big room caco cloud or whatever enemy was the swarm focus.
Eh. Pretty though, for sure.

>>8013064
'D'rady Doom

To people who are really good at sound, art, and animations for your mods.... how do you do it? One of my biggest roadblocks I run into is taking egregious amounts of time working on sprites or animating them (even before rotations) and deciding they suck after spending like a month on em.

Sounds I feel like my biggest issue is trying to find things that sound decent both with shitty desktop speakers and with headphones: It feels like the middleground tends to be "volume and weight" which tends to lead to balancing issues. Trailblazer is a good example of this, everything sounds GREAT but holy fuck is it louder than all other ingame sounds by a fuckton.

I'm sure it's mostly me getting caught up in my own bullshit when most people would be completely fine with the end result, but dammit, I've fallen short of the feedback mark too much to not be hypercritical of myself lately.

>>8013965
I do it by practicing a lot, and taking feedback from others. I also learn by cracking open other mods and see how they do animations and shit. Sound design just comes from practice bashing shit together in audacity for me.
It doesn't help sounds you make are often quieter once you get them into Doom, so it comes down to a lot of trial and error.

>>8013970
>It doesn't help sounds you make are often quieter once you get them into Doom
fucks me up every single time.

I find it funny that sensitive attention whores like this ugly alcoholic cry about """""""""""""incels don't let me play waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"""""""""""""""" on Twitter. What's even funnier, the replies are all 99.999% guys and 0.001% trannies. I swear that the moment we allowed these sensitive fucks into our community, that's when the downfall began.

I've seen some of her streams and MY GOD, she's awful at videogames, but then proceeds to whine about "muh incels" when people try to help her or criticize just how terrible she is.

tl;dr Twitter self-proclaimed "doomgirl" whining about "muh incels".

>>8012827
>>8012847

mbf21 is so exciting.

does anyone know of any wads currently in development that will target it? after all, since now zdoom is getting support (or already has it), all major ports have mbf21 support.

I heard Xaser was making a demo map with all features, but I don't know what happened to that.

maybe a next /vr/ project can double down on mbf21, and use dehacked throughout with cool monsters/features?

I'm also really excited for mbf21. It's Boom/MBF without the weird little quirks and more. Are maps/wads able to be stamped with what comp level they're made for yet? That needs to be the next major standard if it isn't already.

>>8014017
Xaser's also making megawad for it (Epoch), with Heartland weapons making comeback translated to Boom.

Skillsaw has also said that he has interest for mbf21 wadding, but also more Eternity wads.

I could also see Ribbiks toying with mbf21 since he is always doing something with new boom features.

Dsda dev has made a little taster of some of the new stuff here.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122624-fun-with-platforming-mbf21/

>>8013939
I even enjoyed Ar Luminae and Bastion Of Chaos. I found Lullaby's combat very boring, easy and not unique. Those who hate slaughter might love it, but it was little meh for me. I could see it getting runner-up because visual side just like Technicolor Antichrist last year.

I did like that mapper's Micro Slaughter map though.

>>8014014
this is just the girl version of johns. not really a big deal.

>>8013830
Again wads do have multiple difficulty choices. Even Ribbiks has balanced lower difficulties for more casual players. You are cockblocking your own fun, if you can't play on anything else than uv.

Bottom line is that likes of Scythe 2, Ancient Aliens, Sunlust and Eviternity are quality megawads even if one guy thinks they are not, because he refuses to play on anything else than uv. Ribbiks solved this with Magnolia. You can't get uv difficulty version unless you send him a demo of your succesful hmp playthrough.

>>8014068
>You can't get uv difficulty version unless you send him a demo of your succesful hmp playthrough.
Gay

>>8014068
>You can't get uv difficulty version unless you send him a demo of your succesful hmp playthrough
If you are serious that is the gayest fucking thing I've heard in my life

>>8014029
yes, that's a key part of the spec. even better, even within the mbf21 spec, individual features can be turned on/off.

anyone who has gotten softlocked on a map for, e.g., using complevel 2 and not complevel 9 will sigh huge relief over this.

mbf21 is a very conservative update with many quality-of-life improvements like this

>>8014093
>>8014097
i'm not the person you responded to but it's a good point.

everyone thinking they should be able to beat everything on UV makes no sense. if everyone could beat everything on UV, why are there other difficulties?

people need to realize this obsession is just blind ego, nothing more.

Guy I show you something doom in roblox
https://youtu.be/WclypjOnJsk
Doom VRF IN ROBLOX: https://youtu.be/a0aLVvgJWHs

>>8014113
I can barely complete most wads on hmp, so i completely agree with this statement. Play at what difficulty is right for you.

>>8014093
>>8014097
Based Ribbiks, filtering 99,9% of people.
The UV version comes with new maps too. Like if you search Magnolia map31 on Youtube you'll get various new levels, none of which are available for the public.

>>8014097
I don't think it's the gayest, it's definitely the most retarded shit I've ever read. that's why i don't take DW bootlickers too seriously.

>>8014017
Future releases of Temporal Tantrum will target MBF21, although since we started development for normal MBF I have to admit we're not making extensive use of the new features at the moment. Most notable is an instant death pit, and using the OPTIONS lump to revert to proper infighting behaviour.

>>8014135
So you are not allowed to play any else than hffm and 2048 units now? You do realize that Ribbiks is not a mod, but a person who releases half of his wads on dw to get wider audience? And you do realize that you just make yourself a mirror image of dw mods with hate for other mappers just because they use another forum (actually even worse because you are allowed to play and talk about dbps on dw)? These forum wars are getting retarded.

>>8014113
>>8014130
not only that, but the hardest wads require _hundreds of attempts_ by the absolute best players in order to properly uv max them.

therefore, if the bar for playing was saveless, pistol start, uv max, then only a few people would be "allowed" to play these.

but these are great maps in their own right! everyone should be able to play them, and they can do that with hmp and hntr etc.

>>8014135
ribbiks does not even post his maps on DW any more. he hasn't logged in there forever.

your hatred is misplaced.

>>8014068
>Ribbiks solved this with Magnolia. You can't get uv difficulty version unless you send him a demo of your succesful hmp playthrough
If that's true it kinda makes me want to beat it and then just release it so people don't have to go through that horseshit.

>>8014154
seriously, your hatred is misplaced

ribbiks has created a ridiculous volume of brilliant maps and brought many new ideas to mapping, and permanently and significantly pushed the mapping community forward all by himself.

he's a human being with many ideas and many opinions. he chose to make a statement with this uv thing, and that is his right.

what have you created and contributed to the doom community.

anyway someone DID distribute the UV version of magnolia and now everyone hates that person.

>>8014154
beat that wad, if you're so great

>>8014151
This place is becoming hate beacon for mappers, who are not part of /vr/. You can't even critique this behavior, because mods agree and delete your posts (and sometimes even ban you) . As a doom autist i used to come to this place as this was place to have fun civilized conversation of all wads. I contributed to projects, news, discussion. It was all part fun. I love doom and i'm not hiding it. If i can't talk about all wads here anymore, but just about petty politics, 2 wads, and childish hate for mappers from another forum,i'm out. People here critique here dw mods for this kind of behaviour, but becoming a mirror image of dw mod on meth isn't helping anyone.

>>8014164
desu i think many people feel this way about many forums (including this one) and it might be part of why so many people have moved to discord/etc.

i'm not on any doom-related discords but it seems a lot of the mapping discussion goes on there. for the circle we're discussing right now (ribbiks, zzul, bemused, their friends), i think all their discussion is in discords desu

>>8014169
I'm too boomer to use discord. Sadly.

Did I miss something? can we stop the ''ribbiks'' or [insert some literal who mapper] fanaticism here? Thanks.

>>8014174
yeah i'm boomer too (played doom when it came out), and as i said not on the discords.

but i'm just letting you know these people haven't vanished and they are still actively part of a doom community, though a more fractured one.

after all i think it makes sense. soemthing like dimensions won't get a cacoward, seeing how many people involved in that process don't even play hard maps. but amongst a certain subcommunity, dimensions is the shit.

>>8014160
Your lowercase reddit spacing and abhorrent use of devil's advocate to defend a mapper with an inflated ego is utterly hilarious and telling. It's a fucking Doom map, not the Venus de Milo. Literally just a version of a map that has more monsters.

>>8014179
Can we stop the fanatical hatred for mappers, who release their maps unanonymously? Can we discuss about a wad without killing the discussion, because the wad isn't a dbp or /vr/ project? Contribute, do not milk egoism. Thanks.

>>8014164
wow the posts following yours really proved your point. well kinda, it sort of diffused into general hatred against everything.

Man I've been playing Bloodstain
Shit's fun for the first like 12 or so maps and then starts being crushing as fuck
I mean is real good but idk, those first maps had the perfect difficulty balance

>>8014183
Yeah. Let's just shit on mappers, and spam wojaks. Why talk about wads made by mapper reviewing them and having discussion, when we can write "nigger nigger nigger" instead and talk about how 4chan can beat up reddit. Is this what you want?

>>8014206
I didn't post a wojak nor shit on mappers, or even type any sort of racist slur. Quit brawling on that strawman and address the point: why gatekeep a portion of a Doom map with some arbitrary requirement because you think it's TOO REAL or too tough?

>>8014186
How about shut the fuck up and stop sperging out over shitty baits. grow the fuck up.

>>8014150
Those wads are universally bad. The product of incestuous speedtrannie brainrot.

>>8014214
>why gatekeep a portion of doom map
Map again has lower difficulties. If you can't beat it on hmp, why would you want uv?

>>8014219
Why the fuck wouldn't I? It's a difficulty setting in a video game, not a death wish into outer space that you have to sign a contract to be a part of. Most people who aren't having fun will turn down the difficulty if they don't like it.

>>8014225
Then beat in hmp and get the uv one. What's the problem?

>>8014216
Nice mature and relaxed response from over there. No sperging at all, mate.

>>8014217
Stop playing doom, if you hate it so much. No need the upset from wads, that touched your bad place.

>>8014225
yeah unlockable difficulties are cringe, only autists want to play something multiple times in that short of a duration

>>8014216
Btw baits have never been part of retro fps thread. Back to /v/.

>>8014242
Most of us are autists. I can't imagine a normal person playing one game over 20 years. Why are you even here?

>>8014229
You're missing the principle, but since you're such a dumb retard to get that; I hope your dog has a thyroid problem and has to be put down at 6 years of age.

for the sake of discussion, i'll say my relationship with hard wads.

i love the "puzzle" aspect of doom combat; the fact that the enemy AI is very "discrete" and limited means you not only get very distinctly different combat due to map layout and monster combinations, but moreover you can really apply strategy and thinking to do better.

on the other hand, my execution is quite low (maybe because i am old).

so i play hard maps, but usually with saves. soemtimes i find one i really like i grind it now and then to uv max it. i enjoy this process but it is distinct from my "playing through with saves to experience the whole wad"; here i'm enjoying the combat, and really enjoying playing the map multiple times and feeling an improvement in skill. i don't upload demos anywhere or stream, i do this for myself.

>>8014254
Since you want to get this discussion into really mature direction: have sex, incel.

>>8014261
Your family will remember you more fondly if you suck start a shotgun rather than become a walking wig-wearing corpse of a human being you mentally ill trashbag

>>8014235
Are you sure about that? It's hilarious how delicated you people act over some criticism to some guy's maps. whatever you call it ''hatred''... it's embarrasing and I thought Gzdoomfags are the worst kind in the doom community.

>>8014251
there are good autists and bad autists, you being the play with trains and shit your pants kind, me and all others being those who play vidya for fun and not to attempt to police others with unspoken difficulty rules

>>8014263
I'm liking these insults. They are creative. Certainly better than mine. But you should still have sex.

>>8014264
There is criticism and then there is retardization.

>>8014268
Dude i'll shit into your pants and steal your toy train just have sex with it.

>>8014279
fuck you give me the difficulty settings and don't fuck with them