/vr/ - Retro Games

I finished it for the first time this year and couldn't disagree more. What are your actual criticisms other than "x bad"?
The camera is of the era but very functional, so much that it's about the same in NG2, released 4 years later.
Boss fights are great other than the repeat tentacle monsters, the designs are cool and varied, scale feels right and they're challenging. I love the platform sections as well, they feel like a perfect translation of the NES Ninja Gaiden movement into 3D.
Did you even finish the game?

I thought it was an okay character action game for the first third, before I understood its playstyle.

Then I thought it SUCKED for the 2nd 3rd, with the obnoxious 3d platforming, backtracking, awful water level, etc.

Then on the last third I went to thinking it's one of the best games ever when the final gauntlet made me realize that it's the most fighting-game-esque character action game where you have to hit-confirm combos against randomly blocking/dodging enemies, be judicious with blocking yet mind defense and spacing lest you get guard-broken/grappled, and make smart use of your i-frames to stay alive.

That being said Ninja Gaiden 2 does everything it does better and eliminates all the bad parts.

>>7998757
>Devil May Cry 3
>better
lol

filtered

PS2 Shinobi will always be the superior 6th gen ninjavania.

>>7998757
Better than DMC and GOW. Gow for example was based on NG.

>>7999247
DMC 3 has all these problems and the gameplay isn't half the fun NG offers.

>camera's awful
>boss fights fairly crap for the genre
>platforming is janky as fuck, awkward collision
It's because at least two of these apply to every single third person action game for the entire time period. It's mostly about what they get right that makes them classics.

>>8000227
>>platforming is janky as fuck, awkward collision
Is there ANY game in this genre that get's this right? DMC3 is just as bad if not worse in this regard

>>7998757
>>platforming is janky as fuck, awkward collision
Is there ANY game in this genre that get's this right? DMC3 is just as bad if not worse in this regard

How in god's name can you criticize the camera and boss fights in this game and then praise DMC3 or fucking Kingdom Hearts?

>>8001179
DMC camera is mostly static and is far away enough in a mostly eagle view, and generally generous KH camera is your typical 3D camera plus easier to control.

I love NG but the camera can be ass when it suddenly switches from a fixed cam to a more obnoxious fixed cam on a fast paced action game with movement relative to your camera

Just admit the game busted your ass and move on

>>8001228
NG is much better than this game. One thing is that enemy placement and tracking makes DMC3 stupid sandbags or Spongy spiders a joke.

>>7998757
>God of War, God of War 2. Devil May Cry 3. Kingdom Hearts 1/2. God Hand
Lol ok snoy. Bet you played Smegma

>>7998757
It's one of those games that's decent but gets massively overrated by its niche/hipster fanbase. Because it's been stuck on Xbox it hasn't gotten much critical examination until now.

>>7998757
Oh gee, /v(r)/ shitting on this game again. Never seen that before. The more /v/ shits on a game, the better it tends to be.

>>7998757
>boss fights fairly crap for the genre
>for the genre
Name bosses that are at least as good as Doku, Murai and Alma. inb4 Vergil and God Hand's

>>7998757
>Kingdom Hearts 1
>Better than any action game
I wouldn't even list KH2 next to DMC3, let alone KH1

>>8003752
>Name good bosses, but you're not allowed to name good bosses

>>8003807
That's right.

>>7998757
>shits all over Devil may Cry/God of War
no one said that about DMC, only GoW

>>8003752
Every organization Boss in 2FM

Directly comparing Ninja Gaiden to Devil May Cry is a pretty good sign of being a retard, no matter which one your picking as superior. They have completely different playstyles and approaches and hit completely different notes.

NG is the fighting-game 3d action game. It's all about tight spacing and balancing offense and defense.

Devil May Cry is a game about "putting on a show". You're not trying to survive, you're trying to make fighting look as cool and varied as you possibly can by putting your huge toybox to use in creative and skillful ways.

Both of them are very technical at high levels of play but they're going for different things.

>>8004250
Eh, don't get me wrong. I love KH2's boss fights and think their among the peak of action-rpg's, but you're not going to get the fighting-game-esque spacing and mix up game of dealing with Alma's ranges and attack strings and surprise grapples in something like KH2. KH2 is probably spiritually closer to Devil May Cry in that it's not that hard but most of the fun is styling on enemies with your huge toybox of transformations and limit breaks.

xbot cope thread lmao