/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7977856
The Amiga line of computers sold quite well compared to other micros of the day with just shy of 5 million units lifetime sales (all Amiga models).
Still, it could not compare to the install base of IBM-PC compatibles or gaming consoles and remains a niche 16-bit system to this day.

>>7977856
The Amiga games library saw many arcade type action games, although it might be argued that it was better suited for the typical computer game genres of strategy, simulation and RPG.
Dungeon crawlers like the Ishar series were popular examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wvubgJ90A

The Amiga was a pile of shit. Couldn't even do SF2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQj8vs_VO4

>>7977873
>extremely rushed port on the cheap to hardware from 1985
Who thought that would be a good idea?
Is it just me or did Capcom not give two shits about their IP in those days?

>>7977881
They did care about it, they just knew micros weren't able to run it.

>>7977920
So they cared, and they knew it wouldn't run well, and then they still licensed their IP for a port?
Way to fuck yourself, Capcom

>>7977873
The amiga has a handful of fighting games with high framerate and smooth animations. SF2 was just very poorly optimized.

>>7977928
The stock OCS Amiga was capable of running decent fighting games.
The SF2 port was an atrocity, but sadly not unique. Many IPs were licensed to hackjobs for ports in the early 90s.

>>7977938

>>7977975
that game has nice backgrounds

>>7977985

>>7977938
This is the real problem. The entire gaming market for these European micros revolved around massive IPs getting licensed out to random guys in their bedrooms. If they had actually been willing to spend money on actual competent devs these ports would look a lot different. Instead we got Eurojank.

>>7977873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kH9DdNznA

FALSE. It can be done.
You just need competent people to pull it off.

>>7978110
Like Japan was any better? You ever played any arcade port done by Micronics?

First game I ever played. Still play it regularly.

>>7978110
>The entire gaming market for these European micros revolved around massive IPs getting licensed
That is certainly not true. There were thousands of games on the Amiga and licensed games were not the best selling, especially compared to more "computer game" style titles like Worms or Populus.

>>7978117
You obviously didn't watch the video. Mouthbreathing cunt.

>>7978151
Seethe more faggot

>>7977938
An OCS Amiga couldn't do 1:1 CPS-1 games anyway, you'd really need an AGA machine. But if they'd had the source code and other assets they could have at least gotten something somewhat accurate especially as the arcade game was same CPU.

>>7977938
I'm very sure SF2 was also Atari ST copypaste.

>>7978130
They probably would have sold better if they had more than a £1000 development budget :)
I probably phrased that poorly overall, though -- I more so meant that budgets for games on micros was absurdly small compared to consoles. Yes, the market was not all licenses, but the big names that did get licensed basically always got shit ports because nobody was willing to pay for quality. Just a torrent of low quality, almost bootleg-like content.
There were still standout titles outside of the licenses - but it still seemed like the signal to noise ratio was a lot higher than on non-Euro microcomputers. I say this as an Amiga owner who loves games like Lemmings, Worms, Apidya, etc -- those are overall exceptions. Even a lot of games on "best Amiga games" lists are full of Eurojank because the budgets and development schedules were just too low to make something exceptional, and they always managed to choose to cut corners in the worst possible spots.

>>7978232
They make fun of Britain but the UK software industry was high budget and professional compared to continental Europe which had much much lower standards. you wanna know what went on in Spain for instance?

>>7978232
The Amiga and ST have tons of great games, if you're not looking for conventional japanese style games made for 8 year olds.

>>7978251
instead you could have games like James Pond and Brian the Lion which try to poorly imitate Japanese games made for 8 year olds

>>7978232
>my fellow amiga owners

>>7978129
There were quite a lot of shmups on the Amiga.
Mostly older arcade style affairs, that were a bit on the simple side, but a lot of fun regardless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siwd7b0iXOc
Love that music

>>7978308
I have fond memories of playing Silkworm in Coop with my brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJ73Uk9vgQ
Also great music

>>7978254
>poorly imitate
Nah, they had better art styles than any japanese game. I've always loved how James Pond games look, they weren't ugly and pastel coloured like nintendo games.

>>7978368
Yet another Amiga game with no ingame music

>>7978368
I played even more of SWIV, the spiritual successor to Silkworm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lttt0PpKXgA

>>7977856
>SwOrD oF SoDaN
Is that a joke? Do Amiga owners consider that shit a playable game?

>>7978448
The large sprites were impressive at the time, but the game was a mixed bag. What else was there in that genre at the time that was considerably better? Rastan?

>>7978445

>>7978483
Rastan shouldn't be considered the same genre as Sword of Sodan. It's in it's own category of 2D big sprite shit-em-ups. China Warrior for TG16 comes to mind.

>>7978483
Barbarian II
Moonstone
Sword Of Honour
Blade Warrior (god tier graphics, even poorer gameplay)

>>7978487

>>7978514
This looks great. Did it also suck like Sword of Sodan?

Still got all my old floppies from back when I was a kid. Great memories. No idea if any of these still work tho.

Didn't they try remaking the Amiga line of computers a few years ago?

If you can hear the soundtrack, you're my nigga

>>7978669
I would not bet on them working. Only keep mine for nostalgia's sake.
If I feel like playing something, I fire up the emulator.

>>7978308
Wasn't Battle Squadron the sequel to Hybris?
That one was also a fine game.

>>7978768
>If you can hear the soundtrack, you're my nigga
Feels like yesterday

Also what are these games. My favorite stuff was
Speedball / Brutal Football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkRB1Dhgxc
Chaos Engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55jpHprP_ao
This completely blew my mind when I first saw it. I was on a C64 until this shit and only the PSX had more of an impact
Turrican II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvha_2hAzq0
Rtype II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRU7PPnljw
Leander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErm-YRYzjM
Sensible Soccer and the Sensible series in general
Cannon Fodder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2fulUF64w
Putting music in intros was mind blowing at the time, these games were 80% sold on music
Sensible World of Soccer later did this, but the first one was better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaPZEhGdro
Lotus Turbo series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQSsq7HCNHw
Shadow of the Beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9BltSvKMlQ
Scared the heck out of me
Yo! Joe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmpsMRXpi5A
Magic Pockets also similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpcJ7lHO184
Chuck Rock holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rm0eTagViU
Playing this with the band was a crowning moment of my life
A lot of the games were really dark, I remember Walker was extremely sad and gory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU4KAYkMt9k
Desert Strike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-L4PvSNvlU
There were also games that I never played that much but were very scary or uncomfortable
Like Metal Mutants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5yatHUVqU
There were also lots of games that had plain superior production value and were sponsored by shit like Chupa Chups or McDonald's
Mick & Mack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9_-iEdXAA
Cool Spot, Zool, were all similar
I felt bad for the final boss in Golden Axe when his own axe dropped on him
Apparently artist for pic rel who made a lot of shit now does furry porn which is unfortunate
Overall those were very good times, blessed computer I still have mine.

>>7978823
Oh and Prince of Persia, first one with the super fluid animation. And Monkey Island I & II. Syndicates. So much good shit keeps popping up. Such a great computer. Workbench was a super comfy desktop OS.

>>7978823
>My favorite stuff was
>Speedball / Brutal Football
missing out on M.U.D.S.

>>7978823
>Speedball
>Chaos Engine
>Turrican
>Cannon Fodder
>Lotus Turbo
>Walker
The fucking good stuff!

>>7978858
Oh I didn't have that one. I think I just had BF and Speedball I & II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmykeulouqY

Also I can't even put into words how much of an impact the Amiga had on me when it came to music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJFiUX7ACc8
RIP Richard Joseph, got me into breakbeat, The Prodigy, and later on everything else.

>>7978823
Walker was a cool game.
Light gun games tended to work well on the Amiga thanks to mouse controls, and Walker was kind of an evolution of that.
Instead of an autoscroller you were in control of the screen with your mecha as the player character that could dodge enemy fire.
Nice stuff.

>>7978924
Walker gave me such weird feelings, like you're this big hulking powerful thing but you're being assaulted by countless enemies all the time and they die horribly when you defend yourself, and there was no music, so I'd feel sad and oppressed at the same time. I don't know the lore of the game but I always imagined the robot to be a sentient thing, not something that was piloted.

>>7978823
Every time someone mentions Turrican, that soundtrack must be played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hAlJ0sBKEA&list=OLAK5uy_ml8_BFKAAotwGd2rgl9nP491s0bH_PkKw&index=1

>>7979062

>>7978862
The Chaos Engine, Wonder if they are gonna make a new one? I heard they were going to make it in the vein of Diablo , And a maybe make a movie by Guillermo del Toro of Hellboy fame. Maybe this is just a rumour..

>>7979210
Yeah, like a steam punk-ish Diablo wouldn't be bad. I'd try it.

>>7979210
They we're trying to do a fan made CE3 but the bitmat bros said cease N' desist. Maybe because they are planning something? I liked their idea of a time travel theme with multiple types of gameplay, submarine levels, steam-powered mech suits vehicles. Still a shooter but with some RPG elements. In case they don't make it, what would you consider the spiritual successor of The Chaos? Loaded? idracula? or a better game?

>>7978823
Ha, a McRonald game about environmental destruction... hmm

>>7978887
Let's not forget the Gothic style steampunk art. Way before hipsters adopted it. Inspired my custom hoodie design.

>>7979224
Tower 57

>>7977873
>Couldn't even do SF2.
Amiga could do wonders.
The SF2 port was just crap. Most early ports were, because it took people time to figure out how to leverage the hardware.

>>7978669
>DD
They probably all still read, as well as they did.
The HD ones on the other hand, expect some errors if they were used for DD, and UNREADABLE if used for HD.

>>7979438
SF2 was 1992, it wasn't exactly an "early" Amiga game.

>>7979451
in all fairness later Amiga games from 92-94 were definitely improving a lot as programmers got more experience and they had to now compete with 16-bit consoles so just making a ZX Spectrum game with more colors wasn't good enough anymore

For me, it is mainly PINBALL DREAMS, particularly the NIGHTMARE table.
https://youtu.be/UvEdBuGPL5E?t=2678
Played THE SETTLERS a lot too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdd2SvFPnjg
>>7979451
Right, it wasn't early, it just felt early because of what a bad port it was.

>>7979449
But why tho?

>>7979629
different materials in surface.

>>7979631
DD floppy use iron oxide coating same as standard audio cassettes. HD floppy use cobalt coating like metal cassettes.

"Unlicensed ATAT."
I dig that design.

>>7978823
>now does furry porn
He drew that before doing art for Superfrog. They picked him up because of his eceleb status for his animations at the time.

"Is that a Wishbone?"
"I wish to explode."

>>7979694
With HD, the density (as you'd expect) is higher.
The magnetic field is, however, weaker.

>>7978823
>>7979758
>Eric Schwartz draws furry porn now
Who saw that coming

>>7978823
I would not mind more Lotus.
Shame that Super Scaler games did not experience a big revival, like 2d pixel platformers did.

>>7980015
There's a spiritual successor called Horizon Chase Turbo. They even got Barry Leitch to do the soundtrack.

>>7980075
gotta chase that horizon

>>7979758
Go figure. The power of coom...

Strategy with mini games was pretty popular on the Amiga.
Lost Patrol had such soulful music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJclLRq4N0

>>7980524
That game looks so good

>>7980590

>>7980592
Looks great. Reminds me of R-Type. Probably my fav. Amiga track.

https://youtu.be/C_MCOF3yGA4

>>7980507
Also hard AF.

bad thing about the Amiga is its sampled sound eats a lot of memory so games would tend to only have very short soundtracks, a couple of looping bars and that was all.

>>7978254
this!

>>7980680
Or if the programmer was a lazy eurojanker:
>Music or sound effects, pick one

So many good soundtracks on Amiga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKtqen00AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6vxY9p7yg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifs2eamzifg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH6cfRaXxXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBATX-WQlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoXUoVCMTqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atpLn8hutDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCsQnkyHx08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmejjYr_rKs

>>7980764
>(emulated)
Imitation PAULA isn't anywhere as good.

>>7980680
Bad thing about zoomies is they read something and parrot without ever have even used the system they're talking about

>>7980764
moar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcH10hcRlxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz2gEZ0eea0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPEd4pWF_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZGHZAHsF1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1DEAJBmC8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJB0pnlCJKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbP5bWor0Ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Lz9JeaGZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZIjaMH5zSg

>>7981604
based

>>7980525
based
The French made some good stuff.

SPEAKING of which
https://mag.mo5.com/actu/203508/lionheart-un-remake-java-dun-des-plus-beaux-jeux-de-lamiga/

>>7978823
>>7979875
Meanwhile that was the only thing I knew him for

>>7982786
Feels familiar. what's this from?

>>7982804
Blade Warrior:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biUAr5lEjz4

>>7979759
If it bleeds we can stuff it...

>>7982778
nice

>>7981604
You can never have enough amiga soundtracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxguF8BxmbY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2321VGXOUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9I8_GW4ags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoNVLf2Td-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8qWofdaDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTM-0eopZgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoZ0IewzCT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLcbXvHuk5A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc1KWRllaI4

>>7983228
Oh, what the hell. One more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDw1oLhfmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7RGtHOj8pM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckzikSFkDF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ceYmpT-dI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W68EAyBwI28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fAONSHsQxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cezJNg4plbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVTElFyMQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6dmxzJKNTY

>>7982795
even blatant coombait had some soul back in the 90s.

Beast 3 was the best of the bunch. I have some fond memories of the first one too, but the second game is almost unplayable without a walkthrough.

>>7984531

>>7984547
The first one had some bad level design choices, but the music, atmosphere and the creepy creature design save it.

>>7985619
I mean, they threw everything at you. Giant eyes, giant hands, possessed weapons and armor, minotaurs, monsters, insects and the occasional unguided missile.
What the fuck were game developers smoking in those days?

>>7985653
It was the only game of three to give you a plasma gun and jetpack.

>>7984286
Not gonna pretend to even touch Sarina, but his Flip the Frog animations >>7979875 from the early 90's are very cozy even if you hate furries

>>7985653
>What the fuck were game developers smoking in those days?
Why do retards insist that creative minds JUST HAD to be on drugs in order to be creative?

Can anyone remember the game name from Amiga which was something like a side-scroller, probably in Vietnam, you take the chopper and move around, rescue people, etc etc

>>7985831
Maybe Green Beret or Platoon?

>>7985839
not beret, it's a better quality game
not platoon.

you fly a choppper.

>>7985850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6zGUKkfBY
i actually googled keywords and found it

>>7985853
I guess 'nam games or jungle warfare games were a bigger genre back then?
Maybe I'm just not informed enough, but they seem a bit sparse these days.

Always thought Alien Breed a bit too tedious to finish.
The atmosphere is great, tho.

>>7986921

>>7986971

Tower Assault is p. neat but is also an ECS game from 1994.

>>7987108
>but is also an ECS game from 1994
There are no restrictions on this thread.
Post ALL things Amiga.

>>7985850
Apocalypse?
>>7986921
The original Alien Breed and SE are pretty good, but after 2 they became increasingly bloated and self indulgent games, way too hard and a chore to play.

>>7988023
Alien Breed 3d is good.
But Tower Assault?
Never finished that one.

>>7988048

>>7987985

The first game I played on my 500 back in the day. Road to Sturgiss, first time I ever used a mouse as well. pretty based game coming from a c64. Amiga was fuckin great. Until I found UNIX after years of castration of windows I missed what computing actually is all about. Amiga is legendary.

>>7988282

The ambient soundtrack in this game is great. It lends a feeling of dread to a game that looks bright and harmless at first glance.
You gotta listen for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqhUG2lxyLI

>>7988786

>>7978151
>video uses a clickbait thumbnail and description

you are the cunt.

>>7977856

>>7977873
Spent hours on this. Playing with keyboard.

>>7988996
Were there 6 attacks on the keyboard or just one key for all the moves?

>>7988994
That game was hardcore.

>>7977938
CPS-1 had a 10Mhz CPU while the Amiga's was 7.16Mhz and SF2 used (IIRC) a 4MB ROM. The stock OCS Amiga had 1MB of RAM which isn't enough to hold all the sprite frames and background graphics the game has.

>>7988083

>>7989460
Both your assumptions and math aren't solid.
If the game had a 4 meg rom, then why would you think that more than 1/4 of the whole game had to be in memory at once, for a versus fighting game?

Also, neither the SNES nor the Mega Drive had enough RAM (3DO also only 2 mb ram, 1 meg vram) or processor speed, if we go by your metric. Still could get reasonable ports on those systems, even with downgrades (SNES version cartridge size: 2MB).

Looking at fighting spirit and the way it looks and runs on an OCS Amiga, there is no reason not to expect a decent port of SF2 with some graphical compromises (like the console versions).

It's a tale of incompetence from the dipshits who messed up the port to Capcom who licensed the game to dipshits.

>>7989154
Absolutely based game. shame its so easy to find the keys and win but it's just legendary. This is my answer to anyone that says Amiga has no great exclusives, this made consolefags shit themselves. I loved this game back in the day and I still go back to it occasionally.

>>7977860
Commodore machines combined were outselling Apple computers up to around when Apple started doing power pc in about 1993.

>>7977856
At release the Amiga had the 68000 which Apple also had but by 1987 Apple announced they were using a 68030 and it just kept going. But still Amiga made its mark on the world for about 8 years with its influence in gaming and tv production while Ibm 286 AT's were just used to type letters mostly and in airports. Its a bit like how 3dfx only lasted for a few years.

>>7978669
I have a similar thing that I got 2nd hand years ago and most of them boot but pretty much all have at least some errors. I think you can actually write amiga disks on pc using a program, on atari st it can read pc formated discs. They are still useful for formatting to try and use again.

Atomic robokid on Amiga, so damn much more detailed than the sega version but the amiga runs at a lower framerate. I wonder how easy it would be to hack it to work with faster cpu's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Wf7F3md1Q&t=536s

I want to get a piStorm, it uses a raspberri pi to replace the 68000 and makes it really fast. You can make it really cheap but Cone head is causing problems with parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CwVofNogDI

>>7990827
megadrive and snes have 64km ram for backgrounds which is a real harsh limit, they struggle to fit everything in. I tried homebrew on megadrive and you run out of vram so fast.

The problem with the Amiga is that because it didn't take off as a game system until at least 1989, the really good games for it ended up being ported to everything else. Even SWOS was ported to DOS.

The problem with the Amiga is that because it didn't take off as a game system until at least 1989 (by which point it had lost its graphical advantage), the really good games for it ended up being ported to everything else. Even SWOS was ported to DOS.

>>7991047
I often see this argument.
Having a closed off eco-system with software exclusivity is good, while the opposite is a problem. That's like saying the way apple does its thing is good and the way of PC, Android, Linux, etc. is a problem.
I guess that is one way to look at things, but I'm no apple supporter, so I can't relate.

>>7991047
Yer man. As much as I love Amiga and grew up with it, if I feel like playin red Storm rising, I'm firing up dosbox not uae

Posting some adventure games. Good old ultra violence

>>7991964
A thousand ways to die...

>>7989154
That'sa Darka Soulsa!

>>7991964
>>7991989
Thanks, loving these.

>>7991989

>>7992105
Adventure games with puzzles and exploration.
In 3D.

>>7993184

>>7984286
Back then it was hardly coombait, it was just normal to draw hourglass women without half the Internet wanting you crucified.

>>7993276
Some pretty advanced early polygon games on the Amiga.

>>7993383

>>7993398

>>7993661

>>7993697

>>7994417

>>7994417
>Fire the Flannel Cannon!

>>7991047
One problem the Amiga had that is often overlooked is the controller. Most games relied on a single button which makes anything that isn't a shoot-em-up a pain to play. Most games that supported 2 buttons didn't start coming out until 1991 or so, and even then relying on a single button was the standard, and most joysticks only had a single button. Even 2 buttons is usually not enough, the game Yo! Joe for example supports one for attacking and one for jumping, but you have to duck and use button combinations to switch weapons. The Amiga can handle at least 7 buttons, as the CD32 controller has that many, but Commodore should have introduced that controller from the start and not waited until they were almost falling apart.

>>7993398
There are space whales around the sun in starglider 2.

>>7995918
The one button controller problem started a lot ealier.
Lots and lots of games used more buttons, and you simply had to use the keyboard in tandem with the controller or mouse.
Simulators, RPGs and strategy games of course used a lot of keyboard commands, but many action games like Turrican (extra keys for grenades/mines, bombs/wheel mode, pause/exit) or Shadow of the Beast series (inventory, conversations) also needed the keyboard.
Most of the time it worked just fine. A controller with 3 buttons or more would have been nice, and very much in the original specs, but it wasn't strictly necessary, save for a few exceptions.
Thankfully nowadays that point is totally moot, since you can rebind your keys however you want on emulators.
Best time to play on Amiga is now.

>>7996109
>and you simply had to use the keyboard in tandem with the controller or mouse.
Why have a controller in the first place if you're just going to use the keyboard anyway? It's not like platforming games had you jump with the spacebar while you were shooting with the fire button.
>A controller with 3 buttons or more would have been nice, and very much in the original specs, but it wasn't strictly necessary, save for a few exceptions
It was necessary for essentially all non-shoot-em-ups. Even the Famicom which came out in 1983 had 2 action buttons and 2 menu buttons.
>Thankfully nowadays that point is totally moot, since you can rebind your keys however you want on emulators.
A lot of the WHDLoad versions also add support for the CD32 controller.

>>7996109
>>7996268
Oh, by the way, the Raphnet Super Famicom to DB9 adapter has a mode that maps up to a separate button, which adds proper jump control to a lot of platform games. The Amiga version of the Gravis gamepad also has this function but it's rare.
https://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/snes_to_db9/index.php

>>7996268
>Why have a controller in the first place if you're just going to use the keyboard anyway?
Why use a steering wheel if any other analog device will do the trick? People like peripherals. They are fun. Did you forget something so basic?
>It's not like platforming games had you jump with the spacebar while you were shooting with the fire button.
Yes, it was sometimes like that. In Turrican you used the spacebar for your bomb attack and wheel mode and alt for grenades, while controlling the player character and shooting with the joystick. Did you ever play any Amiga games?
>It was necessary
No.
If it had been "necessary", millions of people would not have been able to play games on the Amiga.
There is not point in continuing this.
This is just a continuation of the "Amiga bad" narrative.
I get it.
It's "bad", because it's different. So you make it "better" by making it more like things you know about. Like consoles.
But that doesn't matter. It is irrelevant.
The prevalence of one-button joysticks was not a problem. It was at most a minor annoyance.

Posting some in-game art

>>7977856
Sword of Sodan was the first game I ever bought that was an unplayable piece of shit that left me feeling like I'd been scammed. Thank you for teaching me that life is a pitiless vale of tears SoS

>>7996482

>>7995918
The mouse had to buttons, kiddo

>>7996475
>Yes, it was sometimes like that. In Turrican you used the spacebar for your bomb attack and wheel mode and alt for grenades, while controlling the player character and shooting with the joystick.
Exactly, and so you still had to jump with the up direction on the joystick.
>Did you ever play any Amiga games?
Yes, I have an Amiga 1200. It's a good computer but this controller thing was a way bigger problem than many people seem to realize. Commodore should have introduced a 7 button joypad right when they launched the computer, and included schematics to encourage it becoming a standard.
>>7996569
You've been playing platform games using a mouse?

>>7996520
First Amiga game I ever bought with my own money was Turrican 3.
Guess I lucked out.

>>7996526

>>7996571
>You've been coping using fail?
Nah brah. That was all you.

>>7996656

>>7996756

>>7977856
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>>7977868
wow, thanks wikipedia-bot!
good bot

>>7996835

>>7997107

>>7997132

>>7997195

>>7998146

Let's have some more games

>>7998759

>>7998849

>>7998849
So many European games have enemies or hazards dropping liquid on you. Sometimes it even just straight up looks like water dripping on you, and it causes damage.

>>7998935

>>7978110
except amiga was an american computer and not a micro.

Also SF2 was poor but the amiga A500 and the A1200 were not from 1985.

>>7998978

>>7999303

>>7999382

>>7999545

I'm still mad that this never got an Amiga port.

>>7999694
Never heard of this one. Just looked it up. Damn, that's a short game.

>>7999616

>>7996571
>this controller thing was a way bigger problem
for whom?

>>7999765
You got any WebMs of Super Stardust, anon?
Especially the tunnel levels

>>7999616
I raged so hard at this as a kid. It made me so angry.

>>7977856
Im having a lot of fun with shuttle, its pretty autistic but I enjoy it.

>>7999829
Did not have any, so I pulled footage from youtube.

>>7999824
For the platform as a whole. It gimped a lot of games.

>>7993184
Still love the bgm mod today.

>>7999765

>>8001016

Best emulator? Full version.

>>7999735
Short if you know what to do and can manage the controls.

I used to love the idea of it and the presentation but the game itself just didn't gel with me.

>>8001115

>>8001201

>>7978780
I had the old Atari ST out recently and ran a couple of the 3.5 inch game disks which all seemed to work OK, while a lot of the 3.5 inch data disks I used for the ST and PC were pretty much unreadable

>>8001247

>>8001016
>>8001115
>>8001201
>>8001247
>>8001909
Please keep em coming anon!

>>8002161
running out of webms

>>8002498

>>8002498
I know that feel. Thanks anon.

>>8002570

>>8002665

>>8003627

>>8003658

>>8003824

>>7978151
>You obviously didn't watch the video

Irony - the post.
Embarrassing.

>>7978924
How can I play this if I don't have an amiga?

>>7978151
Just embarrassing

>>7980525
For a moment I hoped that there had been a metal mutant 2 that I had missed. I love this game. Being able to turn into a dinosaur robot is not a small thing.

>>8003981
Emulation is a thing anon.

>>7982965
Oh fuck that looks awesome
Need to learn how amiga emulate soon.

>>8003989
for most people, fs-uae + whdload is what you need to figure out.
(and is about as friendly as it gets)
Otherwise, miSTer is the easy FPGA route.

Play Enemy: Tempest of Violence

>>8003993
Thanks a lot Amiga games look great I've tried in the past but I want a more comfortable emu environment that a faithful one...

>>8004017
fs-uae + whdload is the "comfy emu environment".
The "faithful one" would be winuae. Much harder to set up.

Quite big thing I've not seen many people talking about anywhere - the oft rumoured CD32 version of Hired Guns was finally released onto the internet:
https://archive.org/details/hired-guns-cd-32-dev-files
Not massively different, but it DOES seem to genuinely be in 256 colours, although the improvements are very subtle. Seems more detail on character portraits, new more detailed skymaps in levels but the alpha seems kind of washed out in game, not sure if that is delliberate or just because it was unfinished. Has weird glitches on the loading screens but seems to otherwise work fine.
Also has unrelelased stuff like loads of joke characters of Psygnosis staff, an unused music track (sadly by far the least good track from otherwise incredible soundtrack) and graphics from when the game was originally going to be a D&D style settings including bits of an intro animation with dragons and a castle in.
It also has an odd new intro that is just a load of still images, and a completely redone menu system that can be controlled entirely with just a mouse. Apparently also now supports full CD32 pad controls, but not tried that yet.
Also dev emails and letters and other interesting stuff mixed in, and I think source code too.

>>8004017
It's basically the same as any other standalone emulator.
1. Get FS-UAE (portable or installer, doesn't matter which)
2. Get BIOS Files (Kickstart-Roms is what they are called in an Amiga emulator) and import them in FS-UAE (the launcher has an import button right there, when you fire it up)
3. Get whdload ready games that come in archives. Just drag and drop them on your launcher.exe / desktop icon and the rest runs automatically.

Of course, you can spend a lot of time customizing and configuring your emulator, but just getting stuff to run is easy.

I swear Gem’X isn’t the only lewd title out there
Why do I get horny as fuck playing this with pixel scaling?

>>8004330
That sounds dope!
I probably won't have much use for all the extra stuff, but I'm downloading it anyway, cause Psygnosis. Those guys were just awesome.
They made so many different games, the creativity on display was insane. No matter how jank the result, they tried almost every genre under the sun.

>>8003886
I raided the archives for a few more webms

>>8004015
It looks like the copper gradient is used to give some variation to the wall. Neat.

>>8005023

>>8005127
Did this come out after Amiga's heyday, as a homebrew, or was this released when the computer was still relevant?

>>8005139
It was commercial and came out in '96.
Maybe the last year the Amiga was relevant? 150+ commercial games were released for the Amiga that year. Those numbers fell down to some 50 - 60 games in '97 and '98 and tanked to about 20 in '99.

>>8004865
Other things I found:
The "mouse" version doesn't play the new intro. You have to check the icon in Workbench (click on icon and go to "information" in the menu) and toggle the entry (execute=hiredgunsintro) so the brackets disappear and it will then run the intro on this version. Also CD32 saving seems to have never been implemented, but all the old save options are there. Hard disk saving won't work out of the box (and like you can't save to HDD if you're running it from CD, duh), but if you copy all the files to hard drive and then make a folder called "SavedGames" in the games' root directory, you will be able to save to hard drive.
Some of the weapons have new firing and reload sounds, for example the mounted minigun carried by Cim from game start.

>>8005225
I was mainly thinking of early to mid 90s as these are the years I'm most familiar with. Yeah, that's awesome. The game looks like a fun clone of Puyo Puyo, I need to give it a go.

>>8005234
Sounds like a simple fix. Gonna make a note of that. Thx

>>8005127

>>8005303
>amazing big dicked presentation that gets you hyped beyond belief
>game finally allows input from the player
>it's shit
every time

>>8005323
>everytime
Not always. Counterexamples include
>another world
>flashback
>the settlers
>lemmings
>syndicate
>hired guns
>cannon fodder
>blood money

>>8004330
Dangerously based. Thank you anon.

>>8004330
Holy shit! Awesome. I fucking love Hired Guns

>>8005023

>>8006201
Amiga was a home for dungeon crawlers

>>8006581
I preferred Flight Sims, tho.
At the time, those games were nowhere near as complicated as modern flight sims, and tended to focus more on the "game" aspect.

>>8006629
I tried to land and drive everywhere in F/A-18 Interceptor. To my disappointment, the Golden Gate Bridge has no collision, so you can't drive over it.

>>8006652
all out of webms now

>>7995992
Tfw flying out into deep space and leaving the game running for an hour while I had my tea

>>7988282
>>7988325
How do you get the framerate so high?

>>8006768
Frontier is just brute force with emulator at max settings.
F1-GP uses a fan made patch.

>>8004330
cool

>>8006760
What happened? Moar whales?

>>8007549
What is a good way to capture webms of emulator gameplay?

>>8007775
All the usual suspects. Fraps, Dxtory, OBS...whatever you fancy.

>>8004330
More Hired Guns stuff:
I think all the maps were redone for this version to use the new lighting engine. There's an old test map called "Action1.map" that just has the same simple lighting as the original, so I assume there must be changes in the actual maps themselves to support this (they also have newer modified dates than the originals).
There are no new maps on the game disk.
HOWEVER, there are some new levels in a file called "scotmaps.lha". This contains 5 new levels, some of which do interesting stuff with the new lighting.
To play them, copy them into the maps directory and replace one of the existing maps with it. I recommend using 23.map, that's the first fast map "Animal Enclosure" from the list.
Bizarrely in the map archive there is also someone's Lemmings 2 saved game as well.

>>8008019
>also someone's Lemmings 2 saved game
But of course there is. Can't be going around without your Lemmings saves now, can you?

bump

>>8010803
The only good thing about Shadow of the Beast 1 is the t-shirt that came with it.

I never grew up in Amiga period(I'm a millennial) emulation for it is too annoying to set up and buying them are too expensive for me nowadays, but i appreciate the music a lot and listen to Chris Huelsbeck's music every now and then.
Listen with headphones:

https://youtu.be/SLdBw_hg6dw