/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 1.8b >>7987609
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>7979407

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed): >>7967424
Submissions closed, voting TBA

=== NEWS ===
[7-29] Grim Borough released (for chasm: The Rift)
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/grim-borough-for-chasm-the-rift

[7-29] Anon's MIDI Pack updated to v5
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bcgxwt25qm151xx

[7-27] Tasyspleen TS500 (Q2 FFA), July 31st
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1420068100335185921

[7-26] Retroquad 0.6.6 release
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419811121603698688

[7-26] KMQuake 2 test build, feedback wanted
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4098/new-kmq2-test-version

[7-26] Doomkid Vanilla Wad Pack Revision XII
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2356798

[7-25] DoomWare (like the TF2 plugin) (for Zandronum)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiBYVOPxdI

[7-25] GZDoom 4.6.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72879

[7-25] Dread (Amiga 500 Doom Clone) Ep. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fQw1W22i8

[7-22] Earthless: Prelude on Doom Classic Unity Port
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120458/

[7-20] Hell Forged Updated to 1.10 beta
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[7-19] Realms DEEP Map Jam
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1417212652858773504

[7-16] Zone 400, new megawad by Pcorf
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123296/

[7-12] PsyDoom updated to 0.8.0
https://github.com/BodbDearg/PsyDoom/releases

[7-12] Marathon: Resurrection (UT TC) updated to v2.5
https://www.moddb.com/mods/marathon-resurrection

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>>7991112
What is this even???

in case whoever makes the next OP owns an appropriate existing paste, midi guy asked to include his pack somewhere.
if not, nobody minds replacing a paste the thread after?
(tagging news >>7991113)

>>7991123
exactly

>>7991112
What's the original footage of this webm from?

I've just thought up of a low-power gameplay style for maps. Check this out:
1. No SSG and BFG. Rockets provided in extremely small quantities. Plasma is either rare or outright secret-only.
2. Emphasis on popcorn enemies - imps and all types of zombies. Pinkies are used sparingly.
3. No cacos, knights, barons. Potentially replaced with more interesting monsters.
4. Lost souls are either out, or have half or even two thirds of their health DeHacked away, to turn them into popcorn melee enemies. If they are gone, so are Pain Elementals.
5. Mancubi, Arachnotrons, Revenants are used for miniboss-style encounters. Archviles are used as boss monsters.

>>7991129
Dead Ringers

>>7991134
Thank you

>>7991132
I've played Strange Aeons just recently, it fits your description (though it's obnoxious with minibosses)
I really liked the faster but fragile hitscanners especially.

What is the point of MAP07 (Arachnophobia) of Hell Revealed
I'm really confused, is it just a knowledge check of how to circlestrafe? The map just seems really out of place with what came before

>>7991173
The guy just wanted a spider-shaped level with spiders in it, leave him alone.

After struggling with the jank mouse aiming for a while, I finally got used to it and played Marathon so much that now that I got back to games with "normal" mouse aiming, I'm finding THAT weird.

Not sure if this qualifies as newsworthy but this might be worth looking at >>7991113

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549750/Vomitoreum/

I shit my pants here.

>>7991112
holy crap... they made cow tools a real thing...

>>7991202
Who let this guy out of the wall?

>>7991219
doom zero,
I haven't finished it yet

>>7991173
Early Hell Revealed is pretty weak overall.

Oh hey guys, I thought Mt. Pain27 is dead, but he is not. I wonder who else is not dead.

>>7991219
That's the new boss monster in Doom Zero, which appears two times in the wad. Still one of best wads ever made. Play it.

>>7991132
First half of Unloved.

>>7991368
Got a link to it? The moddb link isn't working for some reason.

hiss

MARANAX

>>7991430
and fear books

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AjriSoew3lFan6Zn-NAE41-p9EsdYh9L/view?usp=sharing
made a mod that redo's the entire doom arsenal to be slightly faster and it's basically overpowered.
essentially brdl dump but it doesn't even use custom textures so it's even lighter.
let me know what you think.

>>7991430
What do they say that to me sounds like "yoroshikuuu"? I'm sure it isn't that.

>YOROSHIKU~!!!

What's the best path to do Refueling Base pistol-starting?

>Hell Revealed MAP09

>>7991581
Secrets are effectively required to pistol start that map. Get the secret shotgun and chaingun at the start, and the secret bfg and plasma later. Use the bfg to efficiently kill the pain elementals in the central room later to save ammo.

>>7991473
Gero Shay Cruo?

>No Rest For The Living was over ten years ago

Fuck me, it's scary how time gets behind you. What's your history with Doom Anons? Tell us your story.

Like most of you I've been playing Doom on and off since I was a kid, it's just always been there. Shareware on the old family computer that couldn't even run it properly, then the full game on PS1, then when I was about 13-14 rediscovering the PC version when I read about and discovered the concept of sourceports and community created WADs.

That must have been about 2003. Doom was merely ten years old, but playing it in Doomsday felt like digging up something ancient and resurrecting it. I remember playing The Sky May Be and a bunch of other "infamous" wads because it felt like some kind of digital archaeology. It's funny because now, there are fan-made wads older than the game itself was back then. I've been around, on and off, the whole time, checking out the new releases every so often. Stuff like DTWiDD and KDiZD still feels pretty recent to me, but they're almost as old as the game itself was when I first got into it.

I first found out about Doombuilder in maybe... 2013? I've made a bunch of maps over the years, but I only released a handful and I don't know if they ever got any attention. Those maps are as old as Plutonia was when I started.

It's just... Been so long... Growing older is a strange thing Anons, it fucks with you sometimes.

>>7991612
I used to play Doom as a kid and I always wanted to make maps for it, and year or so ago I finally got idea so good I got motivated to learn to map.
I still barely play other people's maps.

You will never experience dwango

>>7991612
I only had the SNES port of DOOM as a kid (or rather my dad had it, told me I wasn't allowed to play it, and then I'd do it anyway when they weren't around). When /vr/ first got made I saw /DOOM/, remembered the SNES game, followed the "so you wanna play motherfucking DOOM?" guide, played it proper, and then spent several years engrossed in the MM8BDM community which I would take back if I fucking could. I swear it wasn't as bad in 2013 as it is now

>>7991612
I started playing Doom proper this January. I remember having the game on SNES and trying it a couple of times but never getting far/being really interested.

>>7991112
Just played through DOOM I with a friend using Zandronum. The levels were short and they didn't leave us stuck looking for switches as often as DOOM II did. I'm not sure if it was an intended feature of the game or a bug with the source port, but sometimes the levels would loop by sending us back to a previous one. That was confusing.

>>7991612
I didn't have a PC in the house until I was a teenager, so I didn't get to play Doom until I was in high school. I had an idea of what Doom was because I liked SRB2.
I first played the shareware episode on my DS, and bought the Activision port on my 360 because it was cheap and I didn't have many other games for it.

>>7991607
That could be it

How is Marathon?

>>7991124
I'll include it with a planned OP update.

Had pic related in my library for a long time, decided to try now because I kept reading on /vr/ about how this was true FPS evolution in late 90s, better than Half-Life. Dunno, it's fine, but no way it beats HL or even Quake 2.
I think the levels scale is twice larger than it should be. Because of that they look empty and are boring to navigate.
There're some fun setpieces here and there though. I like the amount of weird platforming you have to do sometimes to progress.

>>7991112
>Mapster32 tends to be akin to the tools in OP WEBM
How, exactly?
Is this also true for Whatever Nblood uses?

>>7991682
breddy gud

>Watching Enraged Eggplant video on my HFFM submission
>He also goes to fight barons without rocket launcher
Why does everyone do this?

Hideous Destructor: Is there anything to be done about lifts that go down from switches that are too far from them for you to run back before the fall becomes dangerous?

>>7991682
The thinking man's FPS, the anti-Doom, the game of which Halo is a simplified, shallow version of, was doing what Half Life did long before it was cool.

>>7991612
i'm old, i've been playing it since it came out

it's been pretty wild seeing the community evolve. ribbiks and everything since then really bumped thing up again, i still find it hard to believe

>>7991742
Stick a derp to them and activate it remotely.
You can bind console commands for this or use zoom+use and the derp controller.

>>7991746
*zoom+fire with the derp out

>>7991743
Not him but how so? I assume it's "the thinking man's FPS" in terms of its lore which I assume is fairly deep from what little I know of it.

>>7991173
It's some pretty poverty stuff.

are you guys gonna up load all the versions of hard fun to id games? or just the cut one? what about the one with everything taken out for weapons packs?

>>7991808
Uncut will be rejected as a trollwad, the maintainer said this. The others can definitely be uploaded.

>>7991112

So what would it be like if you blended the settings of starship troopers and doom together?

>Earth is invaded by demons that turn the Earth into Hell
>scenes of doomguy's comrades getting killed by demons in various ways gruesomely
>the only one they fear is /you/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxED1xXR58I

>>7991808
Cut is really the only version that both needs to be there and will be allowed. People can pull the sprites and sounds out on their own if they want to, it's literally the most basic usage of Slade.

Why is prboom+'s gamma set so high by default?

>the guns eject the exact amount of bullets you fired from each gun

It's the little things.

>>7991813
why not upload all the non """troll""" versions. personally played through valiant with and without its specialized stuff

>>7991838
Only an issue in open gl these days I find.

>>7991838

Because who needs atmosphere, when you only play slaughter wads? What you want is 400 revenants and a Madonna midi for the meme.

>>7991814

That would just be Warhammer 40,000 and you're some Space Marine had-ass.

>>7991112
Jehar is playing some BLOOD
https://www.twitch.tv/tastyspleentv

>>7991890
literally who

>>7991682
The first Marathon kinda sucks, and Infinity is all over the place. However, I consider Durandal to be the best retro FPS game. My only complaint is that it's a bit too easy as there's a "soft reset" of sorts about two thirds into the game but the action never quite reaches the difficulty it was at previously, meaning that the middle sections are harder than anything afterwards. It's disappointing because the middle is when you start to feel as though things are getting crazy, and then it gets easier.

>>7991867
based

>>7987609
There is a major bug in map16. The bug did not exist there when Tarnsman played it. The linedef with TAG 1 should have ACTION 38 attached to it, so that the revenant pops up instantly! The current trigger does not work.

>>7991867
Reminder that 10,000 Revenants plays a .midi of 'Dont pay the Ferry-man' and its simply awesome:
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kNwvIEQsg0

What are the most defining gameplay differences between Doom engine games and Build engine games?

>>7991969
Build engine has vertical mouselook, jumping, and 3D platforms (DOOM has all these things in modern source ports but I assume you don't count those). Hitscanners are a lot more dangerous in Build games due to most enemies' lack of windup.

>>7991969
well basically doom is good and build is shit

>>7991969
just a laymen here but i think the differences are
Doom's engine is "more stable" if that makes any sense than build
Like for example turn on Duke 3d idk if this applies to source ports now but turn on no clip walk outside the walls and turn it off lmao
but build has better animated sprites, more enviroment interaction
>blowing up walls
>turning on lights
>etc
theres probably tons and tons of differences but thats all i can think of.

>>7987609
>>7991965
FUUUUCK someone did fuck with my map. They didn't know what they were doing and they broke that linedef as well as broke the secret.
#1: As stated before, the linedef tagged 1 should have action 38, not a generalized boom linedef
#2: Sectors tagged 11 and 23 should have a floor height of 112 so that you can actually activate the secret trigger

Finally beat it. Basically peek-a-boo the map.

>>7991965
FUUUCK I MEANT ACTION 19
Also disregard any deleted post you might see regarding incorrect sector height, I forgot that a trigger later on sets the correct height.
None of this would have happened if you didn't FUCK WITH MY MAP

Anyway, since I'm here, I did upload a version of my map that fixes the buggy death exit but it never made it into the final version, I guess because I uploaded to litterbox and there was no lead at the time and the link expired, so here is a permanent link
I sawed the demons (and they were pretty hott) v2.03 (I added an extra box of rockets to make the suicide exit retard-proof just in case)
https://files.catbox.moe/x8amkz.wad

Use this version, or just manually change the linedefs yourself and keep the buggy death exit as is.

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS! TODAY WE'RE GOING BACK TO YE OLDEN TIMES & GETTING LOST IN ETERNAL DEATHMATCH! connect 104.128.49.2:10700 ZANDRONUM AND LET'S FRAG.

>>7991998
FYI I'm gonna start leaving servers up overnight so that European users can join. If you other players to join try making a new post here.

>>7992060
>cool
>great
>better
>fun

>>7992060
Map19 would Disa-fuckin-gree

>>7992060
What would HFFM look like if it had a super uncut version?

>>7992083
never played it whats wrong with map 19????????

>>7992108
Offensive for the sake of being offensive

Why doesnt the QuakespasmSpiked port autoplay any demos at startup?

>>7991661
Why would you have your first time with Doom 1 and Doom 2 be on Zandronum anon

No, it was not intentional that levels loop.

Anyway, hope you get to enjoying PWADs! Ancient Aliens is a great place to start.

>>7992109
It is a slog of a map that is very unfun to play. If you're going to subject your player to a long map, at the very least you better make sure it's fucking fun. And it's not.

It's by far the weakest of the set and I would recommend you skip it entirely if you ever play Eviternity.

>>7991403

>>7992109
Agonizingly long, really linear, and the encounters are really forgettable for the most part.

>>7992162
ahh good to know that sounds like it sucks. I'll keep it in mind. that sounds like it sucks
>i can't wait for this to be over
kinda levels

>>7992170
that kinda reminds me a little bit of the wad hellbound for some reason that description you gave.
Like that shit looks amazing but the levels are just huge and kinda forgettable. that had some cool concepts with the levels though

>>7991985
Try to 100% next time

>>7992108
huge foreskins

>>7992178
rip and tear the skin

>>7992176
Someday. I'm just trying to get to the end without dying.

>>7991969
Build engine enemies can have much more complex AI than Doom's enemies. They can also walk in a straight line towards you.

>>7992083
>>7992109
>>7992162
>>7992170
I enjoyed it. It never felt too confusing or self-repeating. Gameplay was good. It was made by same guy who made Infraworld Hatehammer. Very huge map too, but fun.

>>7991612
>born 92' just a week away from Wolfenstein 3D
>the first FPS I'm exposed to growing up is Terminator : Future Shock, then Goldeneye 007 and Quake 2
>pretty cool games, I enjoy them even though I suck at them, they're different from the other computer games and the games I have on the NES and Game Boy (no SNES)
>one day, when I'm like 6 or 7, walk in on my brother and his pal playing a new game I haven't seen
>my brother is fighting a skeleton creature in armor
>he kills it by shooting it with a double barreled shotgun, which is then reloaded
>I'm greatly impressed by the skeleton warrior (because I was already into Diablo, which was one of the coolest fucking things to me)
>also the shotgun, and the chaingun
>I'm kind of shooed out of the room because he thinks the game is too violent for me (probably true)
>some time after manage to negotiate getting to play the game
>but only if it's run with Simpson's Doom
>I accept this, because even though I was way too young and way too bad at English to really get a lot out of The Simpson's at that age, I still though it was really fucking funny, and I greatly enjoyed all the soundbytes
>also it made the game a lot less scary (but it still kinda was scary, that texture with the insane faces unnerved me a lot)
>still played with cheats because I was a kid who sucked at games

This was like my introduction to Doom. There's so much more but I would be going on for too many posts.
It wasn't the version of Simpson's Doom that's popular either, it was an earlier version with MS-Paint sprites.

There was a shitload of sonic skins on the deathmatch server today.

>>7991808
Cut is up, and it will be updated, I'll also upload the Stripped version. Not sure about the Party Pack, I guess it can go in the XXX section.

I actually needed to fix another bug I missed, which nobody else has reported on. Can anyone else think of any kind of bug or glitch which needs to be addressed? Even if you think someone may have mentioned it, consider bringing it up, and I can check it off.

>>7992282
Oh, hey dude, how you holding up?

>>7992283
Not as rough as I thought it would be. I'll update the idGames release to the definite definite version, I hope.

>>7992282
Oh, also, the one thing to update is in Map 16, so it shouldn't desync any demo for any other map.

Playthrough video of map03 of HFFM is up (Piss Easy). I was very sleepy when recording the level, so my play was sloppy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIUCbzM2RSM&pp=sAQA
>>7991725
I think people try to explore the starting room fully before going into other areas, and the rocket launcher area feel separate when you approach it.

>>7992318
This map reminds me, let's pour one out for Big Piss Base which never saw the light of day

>>7992318
what's that about sequel maps

>>7991173
I played it and it actually made me feel a little better about myself knowing I can at least make a better map than map07 of Hell Revealed

>>7991612
I breezed through doom 64 when it came out and now I grab de control and say HOW

>>7992349
>de
I'll never recover

>>7992318
Your voiceover was rather quiet in this one.

>>7991612
>zoomer who got into retro games via the influx of XBLA ports
>loved playing doom on there more than most of the full-price trash that came out on 360
>end up playing the game again through >gzdoom on my craptop shortly after, dicked around with bad pwads for a little bit for fun
>kind of forgot about the series till nuDoom marketing pushed the game back into the spotlight again
>go back and play the originals + Final Doom on PRBoom after wanting to try a more faithful rendition
>end up loving the tension from not being a save-scumming bitch like i used to be, as well as having more of an appreciation of the enemy roster
>binged the new 64 remaster and PsyDoom (PSX PC port), beat Scythe on UV with pistol starts, and occasionally pick at the more renowned pwads even though I still suck and get filtered by the latter half of wads like Valiant & Eviternity
Vidya might be in a severe drought of innovation right now but the sheer amount of content and creativity put into custom Doom creations keeps me more than entertained.

>>7992108
a sadomasochist suit real life)addon

>>7992339
The author was talking about planning to make Shit Hard and Shit Harder in the near future.
>>7992353
I guess that's my sleepiness.

>>7992373
that's right, Shit Hard and Shit Hard 2: Shit Harder. I'll make them for... I dunno, whatever project I feel like mapping for

>>7992373
Oh dude, fuck yes! Good to hear some people onboard who have plans. I have a concept sketched up for a map for part 2.

>>7992378
You could always do them for that suggested expansion pack to HFFM.

>>7992395
I think an expansion to fill out the remaining 16 slots would be cool.
Does Boom support Doom 2 episodes? Because I think that would be a nice way to split them up as well.

>>7992418
umapinfo does.

>>7992420
what wad is this?

>>7992420
Well there we go.
I think any expansion should wait a while, though.

>>7992427
Eviternity. You need a umapinfo patch though.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122892-umapinfo-appreciation-thread/?tab=comments#comment-2340153

>>7992418
Making it an Episode 2 addon I think could work, and UMAPINFO can do that. I'm thinking I'll make my map a hellish one. I have a subtitle/tagline in mind ": Harder. Faster. Gayer." (imagine it in Don LaFontaine's voice), but I don't have an idea for a main title.
I'm not so sure we can get as many as 16 more maps out of HFFM (I expect less than 10), but I guess we'll see how many people are still interested when the time comes. Maybe the Captain will show up again and replace my mediocre sound efforts, lol.

Anyway, it's still some ways off, I don't want to get in the way of Violent Rumble, in case some contributors are busy there, and I think that planned Halloween pack would be a good change of pace for a while.

>>7992083
>>7992109
>>7992162
It is done.

>>7992489
how was it?

anyone using the flatpak for gzdoom or the like and know how to get fucking any wad to work with it besides the default iwad it goes with? i'm pissed cause i spend 700 centuries trying to get all the directories setup in ssgl and it just isn't working in any way whatsoever. loading any pwads or even another iwad just results in being booted into default doom 2

>>7992491
Gruelling - several times where I just got completely turned around and had no sense of where to go next - the time that I was making headway was met with absurd hitscan placement - I'm talking little pillbox on the ceiling and floor alternating in some room, in the dark, just for funsies - Not a fan at all

>>7992505
Load the .zip of the FLAC like any other mod and GZDoom will automatically only play the FLAC files when the IWAD or PWAD requests a Doom 2 midi

>>7992505
nvm just figured it out myself. just had to put all the wads i wanted to use in the same directory as my gzdoom cfg. it wasn't working otherwise cause of somethingsomething flatpak permissions
>>7992516
uhhh thanks for the help but this isn't pertinent at all

>>7992519
lol i thought you meant flacpak

uhh anyone know why the vulkan renderer in gzdoom is blurring textures even though linear filtering is off? do i have to change a different setting for that in vulkan?

A dickhead genie curses you to live inside of a WAD of your choosing. Which do you pick? Which particular level do you hang out in? Easy pick for me.

>>7992550
That one where you pet dogs and water flowers.

>>7992550
The Leather Club in HFFM.

>>7992550
HDoom of course.

Why no Duke95?

>>7992561
good one, i'd do the dance club level in 2048

I got burned out on Doom. Haven't touched it for a month. Good think is that now I have time for all Quake and Heretic level packs released last decade (and few from this one too).

Someone posted a Doom skill level check list a few threads back, would anyone mind posting it again? I'm still garbage and want to see what challenges I can do to git gud.

>>7992584
I remember this post because I made fun of him
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7954134/#7959251
There's also this
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
Start with pistol-starting Base Ganymede I suppose. Maybe try to beat the maps without dying

>>7992568
What?

>>7992607
Why no Duke95?

Why does everyone seem to go for the pistol start meme?

I think episodes is a better format, the only reason pistolstart is so ubiquitous is because every wad these days is surfing over 20,000 cyberdemons by map 4 and it's basically the same goddamn strategy every single map.

Is pistolstart treating the symptoms rather than the cause?

>>7992613
Because what the fuck does it need that for?

>>7992626
I am a noob working my way through the games for the first time and I've been using key saves, feels like a good progression to me that way. I'll probably start playing pistol start though as I get better.

>>7992626
just i think its a different challenge you know, i did it with duke 3d and it really does add something too the game also it really requires knowing each level well

Cause most of the time you'll be able to coast by with shit you got from the last levels. But i do agree it is a bit a meme but its a good challenge

i never ran into cyber demon spam but revenant spam is annoying lmao, cyber demons are easy to me cause they're so laboring and slow

>>7992435
why does eviternity load up so weird in lz doom? tried it for the first time also the umap info adds this snow background?
>>7992282
nice awesome

>>7992584
scythe 1 (first 27 maps or so) is a good place to start (pistolstart, uvmax). also valiant and eviternity (still pistolstart uvmax)

from there, many places to branch out.

>>7992703
>he couldn't run from it

>>7992563
>never get to see all the demon women cause creator is now a slave to lamiaboy cock

>>7991998
There's some people playing on the server right now if you eurbros want to go for some frags. Just saying.

>>7992710
I just mean the difficulty spikes badly at the end (especially map 30) and it's okay to struggle

it's also why i didn't list scythe 2, which becomes brutal after map 20 or so

>>7992550
hellbound cause you could just chill in doomguy's apartment at the beginning. i feel like the level design is generally enough like real life that you wouldn't go crazy

>>7992813
Can generally keep going back as well, as Hellbound is presented as a continuous adventure where the next map starts where the last one as well. At least you could keep going back for the first episode.

I figure if you're hungry, pinky ought to taste sort of like wild hog.

>>7992817

They are two dimensional though, you'd have nothing to sink your teeth into. Every time you try get some on your plate your realise they are infinitely empty on the Z-axis, existing only between one point and another as a spectral image.

>>7992083
Everybody complains about map 19 but for me the real stinker was the one where the only thing that happens is a timed lockin slaughter fight in blood.

>>7992835
this is like saying you can't eat a three dimensional being cause you'd be eating time too

>>7992881

A four dimensional being would similarly struggle to eat a three dimensional one, we'd slip through their fingers like the temporal lost souls we are, cascading helplessly in a singular causal direction.

>>7992626
Pistol starting is popular because speedrunners do it when running individual maps. Mappers want speedrunners to run their maps since it creates a buzz and adds exposure, so they emphasize balancing from pistol start. The average Joe wants to feel hardcore so he copies what he sees speedrunners doing on Twitch.

>>7992626
When making the map, you pretty much have to pistol-start. So it's almost inevitable that map would be built for that.

Why does every Wolf game after 3d insist on having stealth, nobody cares about the Apple 2 game just give me a fucking minigun.

>>7991430
>>7991482
Playing Blood has completely changed my opinion on powerful hitscan enemies. Blood's arsenal makes it fun as fuck to fight cultists, because it gives you a variety of different ways to kill them without entering line of sight.
>Light dynamite fuse, throw it into room and wait
>Throw dynamite with detonator, bait them and detonate when they cross over
>Proximity dynamite
>Shotgun lets you peak around corners and take them out with one shot
>Lots of explosives in general which let you damage them around corners

You just need to give the player the right tools to deal with the problem. Life essence drops also cushion how punishing cultists are.

>>7992932
Why did id scrap shotgun starts in Quake?

>>7992282
>I actually needed to fix another bug I missed, which nobody else has reported on
Was that the lowering wall after the cavern section not actually letting you drop out of the room and preventing you from beating the map in Full Thrust?

>>7993003
Uh, no. Now I'll have to go investigate that.

>>7992932

I never thought about that actually, but then every level I make is self-contained so it's naturally going to be pistol start. I always try make the level funnel you toward progressively difficult encounters. It just sometimes annoys me to see streamers/youtubers/etc complain that like, map 6 doesn't give you enough ammo or give you a super shotgun or something like that.

It's an overlooked aspect of balancing that you could make a series of levels get gradually lower in resources, relying on players finding secrets and stocking up in the earlier levels. Obviously it's subjective, but that's what playing Doom felt like to me back in the day. You'd hold on to your plasma in case you didn't find any in the next level, keep some rockets in reserve in case you needed them, that kinda thing.

Playing today as a more skilled player, the vanilla wads are almost comically easy, but it feels like community wads these days have really hit a ceiling too. It's like the loudness wars thing with audio compression, once you hit a certain point you start losing the dynamics. The gameplay has pushed as far as it can with the Plutonia/Scythe/Hell Revealed etc style, there needs to be a survival and tension revival movement.

Balancing specifically for continuous only (you'd really have to exclude pistol starting for it to make sense), seems like it would be more difficult, though I wonder if by using UMAPINFO to divide a .wad into short minisodes (3 to 4 maps at a time) could make that a lot easier to do.

>>7991743
Halo has a quite different and mostly better gameplay though, especially due to the enemy design

>>7993075
I can't stand the walking speed in Halo, it drives me crazy.

>>7993079
It's just the fov isn't it?

I get the feeling from watching Sandy Petersen's video blogs on youtube that nobody liked him. Guy seems like he has some kind of victim complex on top of a huge ego.

>>7992626
I like playing that way because maps being balanced that way means you can start any map at any point without worrying you cannot beat it. And no worry about saves and continuity so it makes Doom especially good for short playthroughs.

>>7991743
"Thinking" = reading massive lore dumps on a computer screen and then getting back to wandering ugly literal mazes with ugly unsatisfying weapons and solving boring switch puzzles.
>>7993084
Not really.

>>7992268
In honor of Chris Chan the absolute motherfucker.

>>7993098
That's why Marathon is good, because you actually have to work to play it. It's not garbage like Doom that you can easily start up, get hang of, and then abandon in an hour. Plus, such a skill gap makes the game less likely to get atrocious ADHD-ridden teens as newbies.

>https://basedniggapublishing.wordpress.com/nigger-mortis
hows it looking anons? I got b& from moddb.
>>7991707
because mapster32 is confusing as shit. nonexistant GUI for any commands, doing basic things in Mapster32 (And BUILD by extension) requires you to have the wiki to learn the keys to do certain things. You know what the difference between a "lotag" and a "hitag" is?

>>7991682
Bad.

>>7993084
The impression I get from his own stories, and stories by others, is that he got along reasonably with most people.
Looking at someone like Tim Wallets, instead you'll start seeing quite a lot of indication that he's a self serving prick who loves stabbing his peers in the back.

>>7993104
>work
>can't easily start up
>hard to get the hang of
>can't put it down after an hour
>not engaging
why not just get a second job if this is what you want in a game, at least that would pay.

>>7992948
Does LE still drop even from gibbed enemies in Blood1? Cant remember ATM

>>7993102
NOW ENTERING:
Alabama.BSP

>>7993104
>>7991743
Theres a secret gun in Marathon that shoots Windows98 CD's
Watever you meant to say abuot it being an intelligent game just became irrelevant ;^p

>>7993084
>Huge Ego
He made AoE2 (among other things) afterall you know

Is Redneck Rampage worth playing at all?

What are the differences between OpenGLES 2.0 and OpenGL 3.3?

>>7993084
t. TW

>>7993242
Just download it and try it yourself, downloading buildgdx + rr would probably take less than 5 minutes with modern internet. I personally like some parts of it but it certainly isn't an overall good game like Duke

>>7992626
Because pistol starting is an actual thing you can do in the vanilla game. It happens when you use the warp command, idclev cheat, or die and restart instead of loading a save.
It's also generally easier to balance around pistol starts, as you can largely focus on just the currently being made map at hand, where as continuous only balance requires taking into account various other factors, such as other maps in the set and their order, which slots introduce what weapons, and a lot of pre-planning and coordination overall to get it right.

>>7992626
aside from balance and author's intent, pistol starting also frees the player from hoarding ammo.
you know your rockets and plasma aren't going to carry over, so you tend towards more dynamic combat.

how

>>7993084
Tim wallet and liar romero wrote this post

>>7993434
shoot legs

Thanks to everyone for helping with that first arena encounter few threads ago. I now finished the map for the most part. There are still some areas I think could use more work regarding the environment and details (though I consciously wanted to refrain from overdetailing).
I just noticed while playtesting that I am already too much in my strategy to properly judge how the map *actually* plays, so I would like you guys to have a try and tell me what you like and what sucks. What I have especially problems with is ammo distribution.
Please note that this is not supposed to be a "modern wad difficult" map (in fact I made it just hard enough that it's hard for ME without saying "what a fucking bullshit encounter was that"), the fact that you're fully stocked right at the start (and that there's health handed out like candy) should tell you this should be more of a powerful run'n'gun than actually having to strategize, though there are some parts that can help you save a lot of ammo if you approach them in a certain way, which also might need some knowledge of the map, hence I need the opinion of someone going in blind. It's still pretty linear, so there shouldn't be much confusion about progression.
It would also be cool if you could record with how much ammo you finished it, since this is just the first of a map pack that's supposed to be played continuous.

Boom format, tested in latest PrBoom+
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3cq338gfqil8iw7/arenatest.wad?dl=0

>>7993462
The yellow key door only opens once. You can get softlocked if you back out of it.

>>7993462
I finished it. Didn't take note of how much ammo I had exactly, but it was more than enough without bothering with secrets. Nothing was empty at the end.

>>7993104
you gotta be baiting to be this contrarian

>>7993434
blue armor, punch through his fucking head if you don't have a liberator or thunderbuster
legs and face are also weak points, but it's much more reliable to bypass armor with a more effective weapon than to bruteforce it

Is there way to play Nehahra on modern source port?

I tried the very old modified Darkplaces it came with, but I can't see cutscenes. Just black screen. Also I miss Always mouselook option.

>>7991612
I was born in 2000. At 6 months old my dad, who owned a hardware store, built a PC for me. Somehow, over the next few years, I got a bunch of old and new games installed on my computer, including:
>Heretic
>Hexen
>Descent 1&2
Neither I nor my parents remember how I got these ones.
>Age of Mythology + The Titans (my dad pirated it for sure)
>A bunch of educational kids games (these came with magazines so we bought them)
I always loved Heretic and playing Hexen as the Cleric. I knew some basic English and saw he had "balanced" stats + that mace looked epic. I thought the Fighter was gay as fuck and the Mage looked evil. I couldn't play it alone because even though I never got past Shadow Wood, I saw that demo where the Cleric gets fucked by Stalkers and those triggered a primordial-soup tier fear in me. So I kept bothering my mom to play with me, I was controlling arrow keys, run key and the attack button, and she had to use the inventory. We never got past Shadow Wood because I managed to save over our only save, while trying to load, as we were falling into a pit after failing to platform our way to opening the Wastelands.
Years later, I didn't have a PC anymore, CDs and floppies were lost, I'd forgot what Descent was called, but I still remembered all the other games, so I hop onto The Pirate Bay from my dad's PC and search for all of them to get some of that nostalgia (I was around 11-12?). I ended up getting a pack containing a bunch of WADs, official and otherwise + ZDoom (I remember doom3.wad and Action Doom 2 both being there). Then, after playing Heretic and Hexen, I started playing both Doom games. I distinctly remember playing Action Doom 2 and grooving to the music while my dad was watching Spaghetti Westerns in the same room.
Some time later (13-14) I found out about a wad that was basically CoD WaW zombies, and I came back to Doom and I never stopped playing Doom engine games ever since.

>pcsx2 requires a legal copy of a bios from the ps2, even though i don't have one

>>7993595
>requires a legal copy
lmao
Also, this is not /emugen/

>>7993242
Its better than TekWar is that sayings worth anything

>>7993494
Oh fucking hell really? I put not one, but TWO triggers behind the door to make it close right after you pass and I thought I had put them far enough from the door for the player to not be able to make it through the door before it's closing.
Does it have to with the sector still moving while the trigger is being called? If so, is there any way to override it? Because backing out and the door closing is exactly what should NOT happen.

>>7993502
Good, that's intended. Can you at least remember what you used most, or what you would say could have used more or even less ammo pickups?

>>7993604
Instead of the ceiling lowering, just have a door close (fast) effect.
>Can you at least remember what you used most
Rockets and SSG most. I tried to save cells just in case I had to fight something big. Didn't use the BFG much aside from the Cyberdemons, Archviles, and the Mastermind.

>>7993598
wrong thread, fuck
but also, what happened to that system shock doom guy?

>>7991612
I'm most definitely younger than most people there, but I remember downloading Doom 2 and playing it on ZDoom when I was a kid. I don't even remember what made me want to check the game out, it might have been videos of some mods like Simpsons Doom or some other mod that had Mario stuff in it. I remember I was even able to do some basic stuff in Decorate. Nowadays I've finally fully completed the game vanilla and I'm playing through all the fanmade stuff and making maps.

>>7993242
I like it. It's buggy as hell, but when you get used to that it's pretty fun.
The keys are a design issue. There's a mod out there to make them bigger and colored.
Someone really ought to fix the bugs.

>>7993039
doom 1 wads are generally more like that. i think this phenomena is actually generally doom 2's fault because the ssg changed the weapons balance so much and generally encouraged just kinda going berserk and getting as much damage in as possible. also made the other weapons seem less helpful so there's less desire for the player to switch from it so of course ammo preservation was disincentivized cause it moreso became a matter of always having all the shotgun shells you need. whether or not you had a good stock of everything else didn't matter much

>>7991612
Despite being a literal 30+ year old boomer, I didn't really get into Doom until the mid 10s (that was before Nu-Doom, which I played the demo of and didn't like it).
Don't even know what took me so long. I grew up on the N64 playing Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, then switched to PC during the time of Q3 and from then on played basically every shooter I could get my hands on until CoD4 (which I bought on release day), but afterwards my interest in FPS began to dwindle.

I think I was on the lookout for something comfy and "slow" I could play on my laptop with keyboard only, so I checked out older stuff, among which was Doom. Then I discovered there was a huge mapping scene AND a huge modding scene and from then on I was hooked. In fact, I think I have spent more time making mods ever since than actually playing any wads.

>>7991612
never played doom as a kid cause i was a pussy with a lot of fundamentalism beat into me so i thought playing it would make me go to hell or something. i wasn't aware of what it was actually like and so assumed it was like a scary horror game i wouldn't enjoy anyway. didn't help that doom 3 was the most recent, significant one at that point which wasn't my thing at all. then in like the late 2000s in my early teens i somehow stumbled into like a skulltag gameplay video and simultaneously realized how dumb i was to be scared of it and how batshit productive the community was. i think all the custom content were what made it click for me. if we were still just stuck with the vanilla games and nothing else i feel like i still wouldn't really care about it

>>7991612
I played Quake when I was about 5 or so, shortly after it came out.
Nothing for a while, then I played fps games as they came out, starting with half life 2.
Shadow Warrior 2 and Doom 2016 renewed my interest in the genre, and I went through their originals around that time.
Then this year I went through doom, doom 2, doom 64, all the major build engine games, and quake. Thanks to doom eternal bringing me back again.

>>7991612
A mildly entertaining moment for me was in either 95 or 96 i saw doom being played on a shared PC at an after school activity centre (PCYC). I distinctly remembering thinking it seemed so old and quaint, while I was playing later games such as descent and duke3d (and maybe q1 by then).
Fuck me i guess, doom remains more popular than every game I played after that.

>>7993591
>At 6 months old my dad, who owned a hardware store, built a PC for me
Why would someone build a PC for an infant.

>I need a good MIDI for my map
freemidi.org

>>7993738
>not midi.ru
ngmi

>>7993742
>Not vgmusic.com
You even trying?

>>7991219
Me. I did.

>>7991112
>>7991113
TS 500 is starting in a few minutes
https://www.twitch.tv/tastyspleentv

plus free Quake 2 Multiplayer
http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/

>>7993703
he isnt doing wrong, he got the dhalsim move right

>>7993836
I wish Q1 had 64 player maps for DM
Q3A can go up to 64+ if i remember due to TA giant maps

also any sauce on those mods?

>>7993586
qss might support it

has anyone ever played doom with a flight stick

>>7993081
I don't think so, all I know is Master Chief is so fucking slow in every Halo game I played and before anyone says well it's a console FPS it has to be slow I say bullshit, Turok and Timesplitters protagonists moved at a good pace.

>>7993960
Romero?

>>7993260
Performance and/or graphical features, depending on whether performance differs on your system or not and whether you care about those features or not. Supposedly GLES is better suited for mobile GPUs or just old ones, and what it's missing is pretty much postprocess effects and fancier dynamic light types.

On my laptop the difference is massive: for example in the opening scene of Downtown regular GZDoom runs at 45 fps while GLES renderer pushes 190 fps.

Here is a real example of something I posted seen as crude humor (this is only for educational purposes, this joke is wrong and should not have been posted here or even went through my head. I’m sorry that I thought this was once funny)

Quote
I bought a dog on craigslist, and he was delicious.

Not funny, not nice, and not appropriate for a thread about selling DOOM Merch.

>>7993717
Probably just thought "computers are the future, so I'll have this ready for them while I have the wherewithal to build it"
Maybe not realizing that computers were going to advance as quickly as they did.

>>7994070
?

>>7994070
that's more of either a duke or shadow warrior joke

>>7994095
That's definitely a shadow warrior joke.

>>7992872
I haven't hit whatever your describing yet - but god damn am I not looking forward to it.

>>7993836
DBThanatos is there representing /vr/
All it needs now is Decino

What do you gays think of sigil and Romero's e1 maps? Haven't played in years and getting back into it with sigil.

>>7994134
What desktop is that?

>>7994134
Sigil is an interesting experience, but a little too grindy. SSG is a genius invention that unfortunately in not in Doom I

>>7994143
riced bullshit

>>7994152
Yeah I've only played the original e1 and doom2 before, so I don't have much to compare against. I found sigil Very visually striking, but his e1 maps felt way overdone.
I downloaded tnt and tnt reloaded and a couple other well-known wads but haven't played them yet.
Recommendations for that classic doom type map are appreciated.
>>7994143
Fvwm

post your favorite texture

>>7994213
Unironically, best texture ever.

If anyone wants to join the fuckest at Q2 with any 3.20 client
23.227.170.222:27999

>>7994213
Hexen ice textures and frost ruins

gzdoom's vulkan renderer honestly is pretty impressive. i'm getting almost 60 fps on hellbound map29 on my gpu-less i5-6500 desktop even with shit like dynamic lights on. meanwhile ogl is borderline unplayable still

>>7994213
SKINTEK2

>>7994208
doom the way id did. Is pretty good when it comes to old style mapping if you look it up on id games. select title
then type in DTWID
It also has DTWID Lost Episodes which is 6 entire episodes for doom 1 along with the original DTIWD which has 4 episodes. so thats ten new episodes for Doom.

also theres Doom 2 the Way id did. Which i haven't played through yet but its 32 levels in doom 2' style

>>7994134
Romero's E1 maps are the best and his replacement maps are also good.

Im going to do it! Im going to fucking make a Turok map just you watch!!!!
>Sees how long and time consuming it will be to make
Im going to back out! Im going to fucking back out of making a Turok map just you watch!!!

>>7994263
keep me posted i'll play it

>>7994213
Marble.

>>7993636
Whats a good list of doom 1 wads, i got DTIWD, DTIWD LE and Unalign?
I'd love to play more doom 1 wads desu

>>7993738
>>7993742
>>7993756

>not downloading guitar pro tabs of obscure metal songs and exporting them as midi

>not being a metalfag guitar nerd and recording your own

Get on my level

>>7994257
Thx bro I'll find em.
>>7994258
Agreed pretty much. doom2 has some good ones, though, too.
did romero do any of e2-e4?

>>7994278
>not downloading guitar pro tabs of obscure metal songs and exporting them as midi
Every time I've seen that done, it sounds like shit. Prove it works by doing Hans Siste Vinter by Darkthrone

>>7994283
>did romero do any of e2-e4?
Some of E4

>>7994324
That first map in e4, if I'm remembering correctly, is stupidly hard

>>7994328
That was American Mcgee who made that one. i think romero made map 2 in episode 4 and i think he did it in like an hour or something lol

>>7994213
I know it's basic but I just love the colors and that sort of rotting-urban feel

>>7994317
Don't know if you know of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOU7ZcYgV1I

The Transsylvanian Hunger version on this is pretty good imo, but I can't find it on youtube

>>7993434
This must be how NGSW proponents think that Lv.IV armor works against 5.56mm NATO.

>>7993960
bitch ive played it with a 2600 controller

>>7993960

>>7994358
>no weapon select
th-thanks john

>>7993226
LULZ :)

>>7994283
>>7994324
>>7994328
>>7994334
E4M2 and E4M6

>>7994283
He did E4M2 and E4M6, E2 and E3 were done by Sandy and Tom Hall

Playthrough video of map04 of HFFM is up - Code Suppression. I love this level so much. It's hard and fast. However, it is straight.
>oh no, plutonia is so mean for placing a single chaingunner behind your starting point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QdG2f4TX80&pp=sAQA

>>7994442
I didn't know blasting the barrels was avoidable, I just assumed that you were 100% destined for the Arch-Vile + Chaingunner gangbang at the start and had to handle that.

>>7994336
I can't imagine this texture being using anywhere but a restroom.

>>7994521
It's very Silent Hill-esque to me, would fit for hospitals, laboratories, and sewers as well

>>7994526
it kinda reminds me of the aesthetic of the walten files or something. like bright and colorful but also weirdly grimey and oversaturated, almost to the point of being horrific

>>7994521
It'd be a dank ass fucking restroom, it looks worn and filthy. A subway station or industrial facility would make more sense.

>>7994336
Yeh! Fucking love the urban decay look of those white/green concrete textures.

>>7994213
I always try to sneak FLAT14 into my maps
It makes me happy

>>7994442
The revenant pain sound cracks me up. Good job, Anonymous Project Lead, and Sprite Anon

>>7994213
Nobody fucking posted this yet? For shame.

>>7994541
based and PAIN DIMENSIONpilled

>>7994213
There is only one correct choice

No saturday night screenshots yet? Are you dead, dude?

>>7994559
Post in his place

>>7994553
This but unironically.

>>7994559
AH FUCK I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.
IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY MOTHERFUCKERS, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE TO HELP COMPENSATE FOR MY DUMB ASS. MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S THE TIME TO POST THEM

Why do I have to install Java in order to run quaddicted's quake injector holy shit man. Gross.

>>7994317

All you have to do is put in a couple extra steps of effort by opening them up in a midi editor and adjusting the sound banks and levels etc.

Black metal in general is difficult to get right in a quantized, sequenced format like midi though, because black metal (early first/second wave stuff at least) is very... Loose, shall we say. It's almost more like satanic frostbitten punk than it is traditional heavy metal if you step back and look at it.

Works a lot better with something tight like 80s thrash or 90s death metal. I've got a sick set of midis for Beneath the Remains for example.

>>7994590
Did almost fuckall this week because of certain health issues and couldn't finish the super soaker sprites, so I did something lighter and made a ball lightning tracer projectile that's spiraling towards the enemy.
It will be the Miner Ghost's attack.

>>7994637
>ghostball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ess9bRJ0bPw

>>7994590
I finished up with Kustam's changes and now I'm doing a few tweaks for Doomslayer, nothing major just touching up a few animations and letting you do shit like shoot the pistol when you have Sunder equipped. The saw now also gives you 10 pistol shits when you hit dudes. I'll be adding some nice stuff like sound and visual cues when Sunder's recharged and when the Berserk Rune is recharged too. A few more of his projectiles will be getting more feedback stuff too, like hitsparks and sounds.

I also nerfed the dagger's range, and Sunder takes a little longer to recharge now.

Really considering just firing up Scythe 1 or 2 and calling it a day - Eviternity is hell - it just seems to be a practice in frustration at this point - Maps feel like surface level environments not even trying to excuse the raw amount of enemies crammed in

>>7994636
>I've got a sick set of midis for Beneath the Remains for example
pls share. this is what that album sounds like, for any other anons reading https://youtu.be/ysmRIgM9sko

have some 90's progressive metal in return
https://youtu.be/oXKjb6Y0smU

>>7994660
Death Anon? Play Scythe 1. Blast through episode one (maps1-10). If it feels too easy and/or if you like the maps enough, try to pistol start them.
Episode 2 (maps 11-20) will be a step up in difficulty, and episode 3 is a dramatic step up, even harder than Eviternity, but the maps are a fraction of the size. If you decide to tackle 'em, do it on easy or medium difficulty before trying Scythe 1 Episode 3 on Ultra-Violence difficulty.

Oh also I encourage you to play Scythe 1/2 in Crispy Doom. Add PerK's Hi-Res SFX mod if you want. I generally play with that on at the very least these days, since it never conflicts with anything. You can also add Doom Sprite Fix, Smoothed Doom, Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons, or Black Ops (same thing but black gloves and right-handed). Just some suggestions. Only add one sprite mod and one gun mod, as if you load two gun mods for example they will conflict and bug the game. And don't add them to Scythe 2 since it has custom things already.

The fuck. I've got a texture that I used in my map, but now I'm merging everything in slade, I can't find the fucking texture in the original WAD it came from, it's just straight up missing.

What the fuck? I can't have USED a texture that doesn't exist...

>>7994553
>>7994587
Fireblu is my favourite texture in all of Classic Doom. It represents the breakdown of reality in game and is the only texture to warp our reality (through video compression).

F̴̰̘̰͊͛̆i̷̯̳̠͋ŗ̷̫̜͂̈́̆e̴̮͖͛̓b̷͍̘͆ḽ̵̖͛̑u̴̹̐̿͋ ̴̖͗̀̊i̶̞̺̻͊̏s̴̢͍̹͌̽ ̷̝̮͎̇̉t̸̡͚̆͠h̵̤͛ẹ̴͈̑͋̀ ̴̦̍g̷͎̺͑r̵̗͓̘̂̐̕e̸̤͍̿͝ą̸̜͕̽̾͠t̷͇̺̘͗e̶̘̤͙̎̕s̵͉̬̆́͜ṭ̴̒̓͒ ̷̡͚̃ṭ̵̤̗̏ê̷̯̙x̸̪̳̄̇ͅt̶̖͛u̸̱̦̻͝ŗ̴̪̏̈́͛ë̴̡̯ ̵͓̃͘ȍ̷̪͘f̸̫̗͎͆̋̂ ̴͠a̶͙͚͗͐̂l̸͓̱̓̊ļ̷̓̏͝ ̶͔̤̭͑t̵̡̯̎̔ǐ̵̗͆̓m̶̺͒̕͠è̷͇͖̹.̷̟̘͝

>>7994541
I can't unsee their smug faces.

>>7994705
>It represents the breakdown of reality in game
That sounds like Sandy. Did Sandy come up with fireblu? Don't fuckin' tell me Sandy came up with fireblu, too.

>>7994442

Can I ask a question for you guys?
Is the sound of the chaingun broken in every Doom source port except GZDoom and Eternity? Or is there something wrong with my machine?
I'll try to explain what I mean, if you keep shooting the chaingun in the original DOS version the sound is supposed to be repeated smoothly, but for every port that I've tried the audio seems to "break", sometimes you can hear two bullets firing at once, sometimes there is no audio.
It happens to even Chocolate Doom for me.

>>7994716
I can't remember where I heard this but I believe it was initially caused by the end result of two corrupt rock textures.
Probably from either Romero's Twitter or Civvie, can't remember.

Doom screens make great wallpapers. Also, lets play guess the WAD. Bonus points for the map number

>>7994590
not much visually. just more widescreen stuff.
I just doubled the width of all but the pfub graphics just in case someone has an extra widescreen monitor or whatever.

>>7994747
Man, I love your art.

HOLY SHIT ANONS ITS HERE

>>7994748
I haven't had a good chance to do much of it recently. I'm looking forward to whatever my next project is an developing some sort of style for it.

>>7994748
Oh. Also, thanks.
have a widescreen ep4 interpic.

>>7994134
I assume you're talking about his replacement maps. They're good, but they really stick out compared to the other maps in the episode. Especially the floor arrows and the incredibly intense baron brother fight.

>>7994798
is romero really making another episode like sigil or is that rumor?

ANONS PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU FOR THE BEST WOLFENSTIEN THEMED WADS

>>7994274
Megawads: No End In Sight, Deathless, Base Ganymede Complete

Episodes: UDtWiD, Nihility, Alpha Accident, Draft-Excluder, Absolutely Killed, Shotgun Symphony, Double Impact, Return Hadron 1-3

>>7994351
Fuck that's funny

>>7994820
RUMOR MORE LIKE COOMUR

>>7994841
thanks bro thats really cool. also whats udtwid ? Just a fourth episode for the original dtwid wad? but uhh im gonna go download em all and put em in my folder for shit to play down the road.

Seriously cool man

>>7994806
He is making Doom 2 megawad and Quake episode after that. He confirmed this at Bridgeburner interview.

Are there any server lobby's for gzdoom?
I know you can't set up a client server deal, where the master list shows running servers, bit is there any reason there couldn't be a graphical interface to link with other players and set up game options etc? Or a PUG options where it automatically connects players to each other based on selected gametype.
I imagine demand for such a thing is low. Just curious.

>>7994856
Yea, that's the fourth episode. And it's really good. Very challenging, and in a good way. It's kind of like Sigil gameplay-vice, but even better. Underrated wad.

>>7994723
Probably the much higher amount of sound channels in GZDoom.

>>7994873
Most GUI launchers have multiplayer setting sections. You're still going to have to input IP addresses manually but it can help if you don't care to memorize all the important options.

>>7994860
oh okay thats really cool. quake is cool too, thats awesome hes going back and doin this stuff basically for free.
>>7994874
cool cool that sounds good, at first when i played the dtwid maps i thought they sucked and forgot its suppose to be an alternate rehash what if scenario and not a balls to the wall heres 20 revenants and two archvilles on the first level wads lmao with some well played shotgunners and chaingunners
I like the series in general.

>>7994887
That pretty much what I'm looking for. Thabks. Only i don't see why you could have master list of broadcast ips. Put a kill timer on them so people don't broadcast their game and have it remain on the board forever. Or have the exe automatically send a "delete listing" signal when the game is closed.
Anyway. Just thinking out loud now.

>>7994891
No End In Sight is basically DtWiD spin-off. Maps like in original, but difficulty turned into maximum. End of 3rd episode and 4th are hardest stuff ever made for Doom 1, and it's not even slaughter. Evil as fuck wad. I wouldn't advice to start with it. It burned me out, I hated the whole wad, but still it was so good, that I want to play it again some day. Every Doom player should experience it.

>>7991430
should I play blood on well done for my third playthrough

>>7994908
Honestly it'll probably be a while before i play it anyways. i try and stay focused on one cause i just end up switching wads if i'm getting filtered instead of beating whatever section i'm on
>well i guess i'll just play this other one
happens all the time. ive had to stop myself from doing this
but thats awesome its pretty hard, right now i'm on episode 3 of DTWID LE episode 3. for some reason i've decided to play through that before the original DTWID

>>7994915
if you already it on lightly broiled why not you know

Is there an OBLIGE equivalent for Hexen? I thought OBLIGE worked for Hexen, but apparently not.

Wow, that was a really great map! I've finally got around to playing Alien Vendetta, and it's quite a blast.

Just finished Doom 64 for the first time (didn't do the "Fun" levels or the new levels from the rerelease though). I like the aesthetic and some of the levels were pretty challenging to navigate, but I found it much easier than the other Dooms I've played, maybe because I'm getting better as I go. I played Plutonia before this and nothing held a candle to that game. Now I've played Ultimate Doom, Doom II, Final Doom, and Doom 64. Where should I go from here? Is Doom 3 even worth it, or should I jump straight to 2016?

>>7995007
>Where should I go from here?
UAC Military Nightmare

>>7995007
Doom 64 was balanced for an N64 controller, but it also lost the more challenging Doom 2 enemies. Of course it's going to be a lot easier on a mouse.
Play the new levels for 64, they're harder.

>>7994687
Yes, Death Anon - and I will persevere - I want to be able to say "the first thing outside of Vanilla Doom I played was Eviternity, and I beat it" - I have to keep going

Is this game fun?

>>7995082
It needs to be remade on Doom someday, its a good wolfenstein clone on MD

>>7995007
Master Levels

>>7995078
>I want to be able to say I beat it
>continuous play with saves

>>7995097
yes autismo, that is how normal people play video games

>>7995078
>5 hours
get the fuck out of here

>>7995097
>>7995103
I've been posting screenshots of each level beaten since like Map14 - Not sure what twisted your panties so hard this time around

>>7995103
all the level times are his first time completions and the total includes map19 and the big secret one

Tastyspleen 500 was neat.
Though its sad that Quads the TS admin died recently.

>>7994998
Based

>>7995115
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=23227.0

besides him, who from the 90's community is still alive and active for both doom, build games and quake?
i can only think of terminx, though he had some health issues of late.

IT'S TIME TO SHIT(WAD)

Who's up for more Hell Revealed 2? Today's stream might be a little shorter than usual, just a head's up.

>>7995159
Weren't you planning to play 2048 units after HFFM?

I started a cosy castle map last weekend, and it's just about finished. Penny for your thoughts, Anon?

https://www.mediafire.com/file/f1v4kv7psxzr3dg/Project_1.wad/file

The first full map I've made in several years, so I was feeling a little rusty at first. Currently balanced for UV as the first map of a 3-4 level long mini-episode, but I haven't adjusted for other difficulty levels yet, so please let me know how it feels. My intention is fairly linear with a couple of branching paths and challenging moments, but if you're paying attention there's an efficient answer for everything in the level.

Thank you kindly :3

>>7995161
I was planning to finish Hell Revealed 2 first, but we could do 2048 units instead if you want.

>>7995170
I'm fine with any option tbhdesufam.

>>7995170
Finish HR2 first. It would be better to have a long stream to enjoy a wad.

>>7995174
>>7995178
Righto, Hell Revealed 2 it is then.
>https://youtu.be/sCzamoTio3E

>>7995163
What compat? Vanilla, boom, Zdoom?

>>7995163
>Currently balanced for UV as the first map of a 3-4 level long mini-episode
make map01 last

>>7995250

Zdoom. I didn't put any fancy modern shit in, it's still classic doom style, but it's just easier to work with.

>>7995020
>Play the new levels for 64, they're harder.
Thank you for recommending that. I had a fucking blast with The Lost Levels. They felt perfectly balanced and expertly laid out, seriously some of the best levels I've played in an official Doom release. Now I'm done with Doom 64, although I was running Steam in offline mode for much of it so my achievements are fucked up, but oh well. I think I might jump to Quake now, I'm getting kind of burned out on the Doom engine.

VRanon, do you mind a map that requires protocol 999? I could split my idea into two maps if need.

>>7994660
Scythe 2's final episode is harder than anything in Eviternity.

>Try and make a map
>Be too clever about it
>vis starts having a freakout
>Try and fix the obvious shit
>vis continues to have a freakout
>Okay let's see what the pts file says
>Enter the first coordinates of the freakout
>Trenchbroom zooms into a fucking entity
>This is the second map that has fallen into vis hell where the pts file wants me to delete every single non-worldspawn entity on the map
vis is the antichrist. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

>>7995418
It doesn't want you to delete the entity you dip. The entity is in the way of the leak. Protip: Only worldspawn can seal maps, so don't use a func_wall or something.

>>7994713

>>7995420
It didn't occur to me to start by looking at the bottom of the pts file to see where the leak terminates. That doesn't help me understand why the geometry that was fine yesterday before I moved shit could be reinstated and leak today.

>>7995424
Map?

Best Duke version?

>>7995457
Doom 2 In Spain Only map32

>>7995183
To think we're only at the half way point with Hell Revealed 2. That's going to be a couple more streams, I think.

2048 is pretty nice though. Love me that super shotgun. Can't wait to see what else it has in store for me.

>born in '89
>uncle had a DOS machine back in the 90s and he lived with us
>let me play all the old id games plus shit like Corridor 7, old Duke Nukem, Descent
>moved out in the late 90s
>I moved on to duke 3d and mostly console games
>around the time of Doom 3 I grab the Doom Collector's Edition and get back into it for a while
>fall off again
>get back into Doom in the mid 2010s
>finally start playing pwads
>been playing it semi-consistently ever since
>thinking about making youtube videos that nobody will watch

that same uncle now makes goofy looking 3d pictures and thinks the covid vaccine is the mark of the beast. not sure if based or retarded but I should ask him if he ever plays Doom anymore

>>7995514
>not sure if based or retarded
Could be both.

Describe the last shit you took with a doom map name. Pwads are okay.

The month of August has begun. Now I start work on my map for Violent Rumble

>>7995681

>>7995681

>>7995681
O of Destruction

>>7995681
Dead Simple

>>7995681

>>7994083
At that time, someone who owns a PC hardware store would have seen the rapid advancements in PC hardware of the last 10+ years.

>>7993960
Back in the day i use to encounter people playing FPS games with all sorts of whacky control schemes. This is before vertical aiming was standard, and before WASD-strafing was the norm. I remember multiple people with bespoke controls involving using the mouse to move - one guy use to hold mouse1 for +forward , and another guy use to have the mouse movement axis bound to strafe left/right and walk forward/backwards.
Using joysticks was even more common than this.

>>7995779
>and another guy use to have the mouse movement axis bound to strafe left/right and walk forward/backwards
Wasn't that a default setting with mouse enabled for Doom?

>>7995681

>>7995681
baron's den

>>7995681
Run From It

>>7995681
Hell Beneath

>>7995681
Mucus flow

>>7994726
That'd be interesting if true. FIREBLU is definitely made from a rock texture though, you can find its basis in the beta stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRwwPRyaBM
Man, this looks dope. Why did so many ambitious D3 projects have to die?

>>7995681
MAP32: Grosse

>>7995754
>e1m25
Tell me more.

>>7995878
Not him, but It's the endmap from BTSX E1

>>7995880
I know THAT.
>e1
implies that both levelsets were bunched together into a single .pk3 and I'm interested in that.

Multiplayerfag here, I downloaded the vquake pack that anon has been posting.
Is there a source port that can give me similar options in the menus to Nquake for singleplayer? I just want to fiddle with options without configs. I've done it too many times in other games to be arsed about it.

>>7995714
underrated

>>7995891
Why would it imply that? They just chose that naming convention

So is Zandronum still the only decent port for Doom multiplayer stuff? Is it even possible to do multiplayer with GZDoom?

>>7995903
There's still people playing the more vanilla port. Zandronum is like 99% gzdoom anyway unless something has changed recently.

>>7993110
added to the queue

>>7995902
Did they? Because it not the case for me.

>>7994590
Started a new map. It was meant to be inspired by Refueling Base, but there's not much resemblance.

>>7995082
Kinda. It's impressively ambitious and pays a lot of attention to detail.

>>7995681

>>7995681
Entryway

>>7995891
>>7995912
It's the original wad, its dehacked simply uses those prefixes in the level names. I think it's just zdoom that automatically strips them off and replaces with MAPxx.

>>7995681
Where Hate Runs Red

>pistol start
>IDKFA
It's Doom time.

>>7995904
>Zandronum is like 99% gzdoom from years ago anyway
ftfy

>>7995912
ZDoom-based ports force automap names to use MAPxx, instead of "LEVEL X" or whatever else a pwad uses before a ":" in dehacked strings.

>>7995904
Zandybam still hasn't caught up with Decorate, which was finished as a format years and years ago.

>>7995681
Mount Pain

>>7995945
>>7995953
Is Zandro even still developed? I haven't heard much of anything about it in recent years.

>>7994217
>You can copy-paste IP adresses in Q2 v3.23/24
>You cannot do this in YamagiQ2
FUCKING HELL

Anyone know any good custom Quake maps/episodes that work in co-op (i.e. doesn't become incompletable if players die and respawn)?

>>7994998
i still think st.peter's gate aka deus vult is better

>>7996001
Yeah, my only gripe with Misri Halek is that the mountain ascent part with the narrow-ass caves is pretty repetitive.

Anyone managed to get reshade working with vkquake?

>>7995163

>that midi

spooky skelly tunnels got me spooked
trollface.jpg SSG trap

Fun map. You obviously know what you're doing.

Your mancubus trap is bugged, check your linedefs.

>>7995973
I think UDOB, SMEJ, SMEJ2 and WarpSpasm are all made with explicit co-op support. I also think Unforgiven and Masque of Red Death would be good picks.