/vr/ - Retro Games

Pixel remaster seems more balanced

>>7990000
Because Kawazu is autistic. The grinding wasn't too bad in the GBA version but the game sucks regardless

>>7990000
instant kill/status effect spells do actually work if they're leveled up, that might be part of it
but yeah, the releases after the ps1 are a lot better. ff2 gets too much flack but magic for certain requires too much investment. you can't even ignore it like in ff1 because there's a couple of bosses that are practically immune to physical attacks

>>7990019
>>7990036
I would play the GBA version but the tiny resolution and worse sound are pretty annoying.

Are there any PSP emulators with turbo mode?

>>7990057
I'm pretty sure that every psp emulator has turbo mode

>>7990114
Yeah, I found PPSSPP and already it's a shitload better than playing Origins on epsxe. Less grindy shit (only took like 4 Fire casts to get a levelup lmao) and the turbo mode is not only way faster but can be bound to a button on the controller, unlike epsxe where it's F4 and can't be changed.

nice

>>7990118
I enjoy that version of 2. Good luck with the arcane labyrinth and soul or rebirth content. I strongly recommend that you equip shields and light armor until you have high agility and high levels in evade

>>7990127
>I strongly recommend that you equip shields and light armor until you have high agility and high levels in evade
What does this mean? I've never really played FF2 to any large degree; the furthest I've ever gotten is just past the mythril mine.

>>7990127
>doing extra content on ff retro re-releases

>>7990000
>first game was a good combination of JRPG and CRPG
>second game is retard shit and introduced storyfagging to the series
FF2 bad

>>7990154
Heavy armor punishes the character that equips it by lowering evade percentage. If you go through the game wearing heavy armor the game gets more and more difficult. If you wear light armor until you have 99 agility and at least 12 evade, but 16 evade if you want to be cheap, you will be free to wear anything. The funniest part about equipment is that the best set (genji) has severe evade punishment and you will get hit harder if you wear it, but all of the guides made 10+ years ago had no idea what was going on so they always recommended wearing genji shit asap.

>>7990405
The bonus dungeons are fun outside of certain floors that are just a tedious waste of time. The only thing that sucks is the game isn't designed for balance, so you're either going to be steamrolling the bonus dungeons or the maingame content.

>>7990000
You're not supposed to have 4 spellcasters and you're not supposed to have all spells at high level.
Yes, you have to make choices and commit to them. I played normally on NES and I had Flare lvl10 and several other spells level 7-9 by the end game, it wasn't a problem.

I only grinded once before entering the airship dungeon because that seemed like a small difficulty spike and the game was great.

You think it's a problem because you're trying to apply other games rules to this game, which is exactly what's "wrong" with this game, as in there is the real issue is people not even trying to understand the system and instead complaining about stuff that aren't a problem. FF8 has the same "issue", as soon as a jRPG steps a little out of comfort zone people are lost. If you're like that the casualized GBA/PSP/remaster versions are tailored for you, they've ruined the game on purpose so you can play it, enjoy.

>>7990743
It's fine for attack spells, but it's dumb needing hundreds of casts of Esuna to make it be able to treat later ailments

>>7990845
That's not really a problem considering those can be cured with items and when you get to the later ones you'll have plenty of money to spare

>>7990000
You don’t have to actually cast it for the first three characters. Pick the spell and confirm for the first three and then before confirming the forth cancel it all and start again. With a bit of patience you can level up each spell on the first fight. No idea if they “fixed” this in later releases but it worked on the NES one.

>>7990847
no stacking + inventory space being full of quest items you can't get rid of kind of sucks for that though

>>7990847
>that spell's bad design doesn't matter if you don't use it
I guess it's not any worse than FF1's bugged spells

>>7990000
>played on GBA when it came out
>Loved it

The "remaster" is honestly great for this, fixing the sole flaw spells have in this game: leveling up buffs/support spells. Cursor memory + auto-battle fixes everything about early game jank regarding leveling Esuna/Protect/Shell/etc. after a few fights, then those spells will be good to go and you can use them naturally for the rest of the game. There's no need for grinding otherwise unless you want to go full autismo with Ultima, which should actually work now
>>7990427
the "storyfagging" amounts to two sentence dialog exchanges once every couple hours. the keyword shit alone is more CRPG than anything else in the entire franchise

Does Origins fix the bugs of the Famicom version?

>>7990938
yes, the GBA version that nerfs the fuck out of the difficulty and reduces the grinding by about 80%

>>7990000
>you have to cast a spell ONE HUNDRED TIMES in order for it to level up
No you don't.

>After a battle, you may gain one or more points of skill progress in any given skill. When you gain 100 progress points, the skill increases by one level.

>Every battle has a "rank" associated with it, which determines how quickly your skills increase. This rank is equal to the lowest rank of any monster involved in the combat. Rank acts as the baseline for skill advancement. Most advancement formulas have a starting point based on the rank of a battle minus the current level of the skill, plus some constant and one point for each use of the skill during the fight. What this usually means is that for any given rank, there is a soft cap on how far you can advance your skills. It is possible to skill up further, by taking more actions in combat, but it is difficult. Further, lower-level skills will increase more quickly than higher-level skills, especially at higher ranks.

>The basic formula for skill advancement is simple: Rank + Uses + Modifier − Level. Rank is the rank of the battle, and Level is your current level in the appropriate skill. Uses means the number of times you attacked (for weapons and shields), the number of times you cast a spell (for magic), or the number of times you were targeted by a physical or magic attack (for evasion and magic defense, respectively). The modifier is a constant that is different for each type of skill.

> Each of your known spells levels independently during combat, and you can progress in multiple spells during the same fight. The modifier for spells is +3, making the formula Rank + Times Cast − Level + 3. Casting a level 1 spell during a rank 1 fight will earn you 4 progress points for the first cast, and 1 point for each additional cast. It is thus prudent to mix up your spells during combat, since the first casting of each spell is generally worth the most progress.

>>7991153
tldr the further into the game you get, the fasters it is to level spells out of their early levels. But even at the very very start of the game, casting Fire once in 25 different battles will level it up to level 2. You are, in general, meant to have your offensive spellcasters use magic constantly instead of saving it for special occasions.

>>7991157
>You are, in general, meant to have your offensive spellcasters use magic constantly instead of saving it for special occasions.

Which is honestly an improvement compared to FF1 in which the player barely dares cast spells and basically only use them for hordes and to buff/debuffs during bosses. In FF2 you can have a caster in your party that you use literally every single fight.

>>7991159
It is. FF2 is pretty fucking fun in that it lets you have a black mage throwing out pretty powerful spells every single turn and then recover MP with Osmose. It's a game that rewards specializing and lets you choose very freely how you want to specialize.

>>7991159
>>7991167
Honestly, the biggest problem with the system is that the game isn't difficult enough to make you want to use it to the extent it wants to be used. In games like Wizardry almost every single battle is very deadly and you want your spellcasters to lob spells nearly every single round. In FF2 you never really feel the NEED to throw up Protect/Shell at the start of every battle, contantly Curse enemies to reduce their ability to murder you, etc. The game is easy enough you can mostly just stomp everything with physical attacks and offensive magic if needed for crowd control.

>>7990000
hey faggot play pixel remaster. stop listening to the complaining faggots because all of those games are now the definitive versions - t. ff fag since 1991

>>7991076
What the fuck is your point?

>>7992913
His point is that he needs all the challenge taken out of his jRPG for him to like it, even for easy series like Final Fantasy

He's the target audiance for tall those remakes and remasters that do just that

>>7993345
Enjoy grinding your shitty games faggot. I cannot imagine feeling superiority for enjoying a version that only wastes your time.