/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7980585
>i mean it hasn't been topped
Literally every other game in the series except for Fusion is better.

>>7980617
>better
doesn't feel that way. might look like it

>>7980617
even this one?
personally i like XL the most

Why are the US Wipeout covers so ugly?

>>7980585
Wip3out is the best one

>>7980671
Yeah 2048 is alright.

>>7980812
https://youtu.be/5iZckJ44TJc

I heard somebody say the pc version of XL is worse than the console versions (worser textures and sounds) but i cant find any comparison

>>7982915
yeah it's a mess. xl is just as good as the first game, albeit faster and overall more difficult although arguably inferior track design, and music

>>7982915
>>7982915
I think Digital Foundry recently went into a little on their DF Retro PS1 launch series.
DF Retro is some of the best video game related content on YouTube you should check it out.

i had this, doom and toshinden. 1995. playstation was new. it had a nice early line-up but nobody knew crazy shit like metal gear solid and final fantasy 7 were coming

>>7980617
I always hear bad things about Fusion but what specifically is wrong with it?

>>7980585
I had the PC version of Wipeout 2097. Great Soundtrack and it still handles great. Found the learning curve pretty steep, but it's very rewarding once you get the hang of it. And the more you play it, the better you get at it. I thought it was really well balanced. Haven't played any others in the series.

>>7983021
Hi homosexual

>>7982960
not him but it somehow feels different

>>7980827
cool, i knew pulse on PSP was good but i never heard anything either way about that one. will check it out thanks anon

>>7983512
Get the PS4 remaster though, since it has arcade mode and runs at 4k 60FPS.

>>7982915
Playstation is has brighter lighting where as PC has that 90s gamma fuckery that makes everything way too dark. Playstation has the full licensed soundtrack and PC has Cold Storage (subjective). PC also supports keyboard, mouse, and joystick. Forgot if it officially supports DirectInput but I definitely remapped my Xbox One controller as such. PC has limited resolutions in the launcher (there's a hacked launcher somewhere) and driver MSAA works. There's also a netplay exe out there somewhere. I believe textures and sounds are identical except ship shadows do look weird as it's a weird opaque gray instead of black overlay.

I just unlisted my old capture test from 2016 for your curiosity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UQDZUEVnjQ

>>7982960
The game is more combat focused so the pace is usually slower (except in zone mode). They bought back the character selection from the first game, but the stats doesn't matter much yet the team specific weapons break the balance when introduced. The tracks have multiple courses like in ridge racer, but the overall design leaves a lot to be desired. The camera doesn't follow the track smoothly as in the previous entries, fusion was the only wipeout that made me feel nauseous. It is definitely the low point of the series in my opinion, the devs tried to go in a different direction and it didn't work out.

>>7983021
Indeed, the difficulty curve is all kinds of fucked in 2097. It makes the player get used to the higher speeds on the most bullshit difficult courses. I prefer single races to tournaments with consecutive races and points so 3 was great in that regard.

>>7980585
rather play any (literally any) f-zero or kart racer

>>7983615
>It makes the player get used to the higher speeds on the most bullshit difficult courses.
You can use a cheat code to unlock all the courses for all difficulty modes. It was dumb to not have it that way by default.

>>7983630
based nintentardo

There are some things that I like about 1 (mostly the original music and intro movie), but XL just handles better overall.

>>7980585
I've been playing it for the firs time. It's pretty fun, and very challenging. No idea how I'm going to beat Rapier class when I could barely get 3rd on Silverstream.

>>7983680
Yes, I'd rather have my ship blow up after a beating than slow the fuck down at every small collision.

>>7983021
>>7983615
Based

>>7980585
Wipeout's good fun, and it also makes me really thirsty for rave sluts for some reason.

This is peak wipeout

>>7980784
Designers Republic FTW

>>7984194
You're not alone. Ever since getting into Wipeout, I've been wishing there were clubs near me that played Trance or DnB. Would kill to hear this live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2YtRDdiIo

>>7980617
W1 is my favorite and it's not the best one but classic>fusion>nu.
>>7982960
It's really different gameplay, really slidey and it's hard as fuck. Still a great game though.

>>7984419
>Xpander
Exquisite taste.

>>7982960
In Fusion, the ships don't bob and float in the air much, if at all. I remember it feeling like they were magnet-gripping the tracks, so more like F-Zero. IMO the coolest thing about PS1 Wipeout was the "carving the air" feeling of the physics, so Fusion was a big letdown.

But I did like some of the track variety ideas they had, like the open-ish "field" sections with boulders and such to avoid. Episode 1 Pod Racer did it better though.

The best wipeout game is technically ballisticNG but if we had to stick to actual psygnosis games the best one is 2097.

>>7982918
>>7982929
>>7983550
I hardly found anything that looks or sounds worse on the pc version, I think its just console pleb lies

>>7985416
>ballisticNG
does it control like the PS1 Wipeouts? are the old WOs tracks playable?

>>7985592
no, its a very fast tunnel racer

>>7985579
nah, it's a mess. it's too fast and fucks the game

>>7985662
>tunnel racer
so it's shit then?

>>7985681
wut, how is 30 fps too fast?

>>7985702
its VERY fast tunnel racer though

>>7985416
It will never be the best until the devs fix the collision so coward niggers won't fly through buildings and skip half the race.

>>7985592
It plays like wipeout 3.

>>7985662
You're a retard.

>>7986118
The collision has been fixed for years and skip is disabled by default.

>>7980827
It was 2097 for communists, not 2048.

Is wipeout 64 noticeably harder than 1 and XL or is it just me?

>>7986319
>It plays like wipeout 3.
Sound good

>>7986759
It is also rock hard if you want to get gold (or heaven forbid platinum) in the single player.

played the first one recently and thought the controls were ass without analog support. i'll try the next few entries eventually.

>>7986346
I noticed that too, but the emulation is buggy on my PC and I haven't played it on real hardware in years. I can't remember it ever being easy

>>7980784
I like it

Wipeout 3 is clearly the best gameplaywise and aesthetically but it gets a bad reputation due to a tedious campaign progression. Go into it expecting to play for a month

>>7986823
Curiously enough, most old timers prefer to play the original trilogy with the D-Pad

>>7986346
I think it's MUCH harder to get gold medals in Wipeout 64 than the others. You have to fly perfect laps or near-perfect laps with consistency. I kind of like it though, it gives it a little spice to set it apart from the others.

IMO difficulty wise (getting golds against the AI on fastest speeds) I would say XL < 1 = 3 < 64. And I'm not hating on XL, I'm just saying it's not too hard to win on Phantom with a little practice. 1 has some ballbuster tracks like Silverstream, and the collision is quite unforgiving, but I thought 3 was a little rougher overall since you have to race with every ship on every speed class to unlock everything. 3 was also my first Wipeout though so maybe it's because I had to learn the ropes on that one.

>>7987181
No lie, 3 can be a grind. When I feel the urge to replay it on emulator, I load a savestate with the all tracks/speed classes cheat enabled.

>>7985416
BallisticNG
Fuck I forgot about this for like a year because I changed computers. I kind of miss the PS1-style graphics they started with, but it's still awesome and has its own style. As a big Wipeout 3 fan, it's my fan dream game come true.

>>7985662
>>7985681
>>7985702
>>7986319
my mistake was thinking of Ballistics

>>7987269
>As a big Wipeout 3 fan
thats why i dont like it, he buckled to the sois and nerfed the physics to be more f queero.

>>7986823
its because youre shit i promise you.
if i can do this on dpad then you can to.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/839875198

>>7987984
>erfed the physics to be more f queero.

>>7987984
Are you talking about the optional physics mode? I haven't played it in a while but recent vids make it look floaty just like old wipeout.