/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7912875
Yes.

>>7912875
I played the rom back in the day and it was pretty fun, although piss easy

>>7912875
Ya good

>>7912875

>>7912875
Absolutely. It's probably in the top 10 games for the system and it's an absolute tragedy that it didn't come out in '96 like it was supposed to.

>>7912875

>>7912919
Final version is a bit harder.

>>7912875
it was kino

>>7912908
there's never been a more unconvincing webm

>>7914556
Cute.

My favorite SNES game, it's a lot of fun. The framerate sucks ass but I stop noticing once I get into it.

>>7912875
Oh yeah, it's really good. Don't go in expecting it to play like the first game though.

>>7912875
Yes. I'd recommend a team of Fox/Falco and Miyu/Fay for maximum efficiency.

>>7912875
Literally a fake game they put out to sell more mini snes

>>7917267
How is it fake when I'm playing it right now?

it's pretty neat, i honestly think it works best in release order, i.e., after you've played star fox and star fox 64. it's like the missing link between them which is cool

>>7917267
The July gigaleaks confirm that the ROM in the SNES mini is indeed authentic.

>>7912875
Yes

>>7912875
It's incredibly ambitious and interesting but it's much worse than the first game was. If anything I'd say Command is slightly better considering that game is most heavily based off of this but with better gameplay.

>>7914639
Are you kidding that looks cool, and Im not even a Star Fox fan

>>7912875
It's a Star Fox game.
So the answer is no

Not really. I probably would have killed the franchise for 10 years had they released it instead of moving straight to StorFox 64.

Better than the first? I didn't want to finish that one after the planet with the fog sent me down in all of its 5 FPS glory.

Yes, it's more of an RTS than SF1 with enemies bombarding your home base and you needing to figure out the most optimal way to deal with them on a world map. There are still linear levels when you invade a battleship though.

>>7917739
Star Fox 2 has been around in ROM form online for almost 20 years

>>7919773
The version from 2002 was a late beta with quite a few differences.
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Star_Fox_2/June_22,_1995_Build

I still have all the Gigaleaks builds if anyone wants to play them. I also have a hack of the final that unlocks the homing laser by default.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/b5g8e2jyr3ki8pg/Starfox_2.7z/file#

>>7919967
Sweet! Thanks man.

Bump!

>>7912908

I'm impressed. Nintendo should have waited for Super FX2 to make Star Fox 1.

>>7919967
Appreciate it anon

>>7921716
But without the SFX1 there wouldn't be the SFX2...

>>7918936
>Better than the first?
Only if you like RTS elements in your games.

>>7912875
It's better than 1 and 64.

>>7924217
Quite the statement. I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Better than 64 I can see. Better than 1, that's tough, but not a stretch.

>>7912919
Play on the harder difficulties, moron

>>7912875
It's my favorite game in the series, I vastly prefer the free-flight and RTS elements over the plain on-rails gameplay of the original and 64. A lot of the stuff it introduced should have become series staples.
>choose your character in order to hear different dialogue
>different ships with different stats
>multiple kinds of secondary items to pick instead of bombs
>multiple difficulty levels, layout of the stages and which bosses you encounter will change accordingly
It would only improve the replayability, in a series that basically depends on replayability.

the prototypes alone make the game an interesting specimen. between the FIFTEEN betas we have its so interesting to see (and actually play) the game develop from a primitive concept into a competent game with almost every step in between. dropped elements like a coop mode (which is why you still have an ai partner in the final game) and vs mode that all got dropped at various points in the development timeline.

>>7928158
Middlemost Fay is cute.

Tried the snes ripped rom
Played a few levels, some of the levels were good but after a bit of randomly beating the levels I get to the boss and thats it, credits roll after about 20 minutes from when I started. Seems like a really short game and it feels a bit pointless just wandering around beating what seems almost like minigames. I like the orignal a lot better, feels more like afterburner.

>>7930181
Play the harder difficulties. Normal mode is really just beginner mode.

>>7929561
Dogfucker

>>7929561
as long as we acknowledge the last 3 from the right are the things of nightmares.
also gender and allegiance swapped pigma?

>>7918661
Command TRIED to copy/adapt 2, but there are important aspects that it didn't account for. 2's somewhat simple and repetitive objectives still hold your interest because the whole game is basically one constant time attack, with time being a significant factor in your final score and ranking. Command would have done well to incorporate that component even if it remained otherwise unchanged. It feels good to play if you try to beat it as quickly as possible, but there's no actual incentive to do so. The fuel gauge is intended to make you hurry, but you get a bigger reward for taking your time and killing every enemy. This nets you tons of extra fuel time, as well as missiles that let you skip fights, eliminating any reason to rush around.

The lack of variety in objectives doesn't help either, which 2 overcame by including portions where you navigate the surface of planets and interiors of bases and battleships to press switches and such, i.e. doing something besides flying in circles shooting at shit. It was stupid to swap the real-time gameplay for limited turns, and there were some other bizarre decisions.
>fog of war on the tactical map, which has to be wiped away in order to see enemies: you can only clear a little bit, and it all comes back at the start of next turn anyways
>not enough to just kill enemies, to leave the encounter you also have to grab a number of pickups that only some of the enemies drop
>can play as multiple characters, but you have no freedom to choose who, it depends on which story route you follow
>locked out of making route choices on your first playthrough, forced into getting a shitty ending

>>7930287
Command sucks because stylus controls
2 sucks because framerate
Everything is terrible.

>>7930292
didnt the gigaleak give us the source code for 2? i bet we can port it to pc for 60 fps+2 player coop+battle from the ces proto.

yeah. and even if you dont like it, just buy a mini snes to have as an earthbound machine. it's cheaper than buying the cartridge

>>7930535
I think it's in Assembly. Good luck porting Assembly to something readable by modern machines.

>>7932282
i wonder how wario ware did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwJHpEprIw

>>7932943
The assets were remade from scratch for that game. I'm sure the code was used as a reference, but if you were to disassemble it the programming would be 100% different.

>>7930181
Old games like this have strong replay value even if they have short campaigns, but this game has different endings based on the difficulty you choose (and Hard is pretty hard). Plus you unlock stuff after beating them all, so you gave up too quickly, anon.

I might be the biggest fan of this game. I play it all the time.

>>7932983
Bam, beat ya.

>>7934496
damn >>7932983 btfo

>>7919967
Pretty cool of you anon. I assume some of the posters in this thread are playing for the first time, so I'll post those 100% completion maps that were spread around when it first came out on the SNES Mini.

Bump

>>7917267
how the fuck can a game be fake unless it literally doesnt exist?

also the earliest beta was in circulation since august 1999

>>7912875
It's more of a fun novelty for it being unreleased and ambitious. As a game it's far weaker than the first and 64 and I'd even argue that Command took this game's ideas and improved on them as far as the strategy/map navigation element goes.

>>7912875
Recently played it on my SNES, definitely worth playing, game is fun
Though I’d prefer if it had routes like the first one

>>7937835
You make your own routes, in a sense.

>>7912875
I enjoyed it.

>>7939427
Playing the WCES version is fucking astonishing, all the stuff they were fitting into it, randomized objectives and such. The Macbeth level has a boss fight where you stand on a platform and it tries to tilt you off into the lava, and you actually slide down the incline.

>>7925529
Thanks for the new phone wallpaper, king. Outstanding taste.