/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7906085
>EA
Into the trash it goes
>The better Half-Life 2
Comparing to the Xbox port is low hanging fruit.

>>7906085
never heard of it

>>7906216
If you have game pass ultimate it’s on Xbox at least. Not sure about PC. It’s a good shooter with impressive graphics for its time.

>>7906090
I'd compare it to Half Life 2 as a whole, and Black wins

>>7906889
gr8 b8 m8

HL2 is legendary and the franchise is huge compared to Black. Actually, there is no comparison.

2/10 for reply

>>7906889
That's like believing Killzone was/is the Halo killer.

>>7906901
You just imagined you were married to Alyx, sperg.

>>7907182
Lol is this the best Blackedfags can come up with? HL2 is not even my favorite but it runs circles around this shovelware garbage

>>7906901
Legendary soi boi fuel lmao. Black is an actual shooter when Half Life 2 too tries to act like it's better than it by it's design (no real cutscenes!!!, gravity gun guys!!!, wooow we morphed Gordon and G-man from multiple people!!!, WOoow advanced AI peeps!) but the actuall gameplay is shit
seriously
>advanced AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ

>>7908748
>using "advanced AI" as an argument for black.
i get the feeling that you never played black.

sure HL2 has some breaks like your video but comparing the AI of black to HL2 is like competing in the special olympics.

regardless of whatever AI wins out it's still retarded.

>>7906904
Haze was/is the Halo killer. They even got KoRn!

>>7906085
I tried replaying this a couple weeks ago and I wanted to close it ASAP. The free look controls are so fucking bad. It's a shooter but with no sensitivity and acceleration options. Complete button remapping was a nice touch, I guess? Also, the longest FUCKING unskippable intro I have ever experienced in my life. Except it wasn't even anything to look at, it's just a black screen with white game credits. Fuck this game.

>>7908825
Filtered

>>7906901
Hl2 is shit actualy.
Hl1 had weird systems, like alien animals with hierarchies that had sense of smell, wich made them go after roten flesh.
Kinda like deus ex lite
Wich made each level play somewhat differently each time.
Hl2 droped all that to be a slow mediocre shooter

>>7906090
There was a time when EA had some good games here and there.

>>7906085
are you retarded

>>7906090
EA published this thing, it's from the Burnout devs and it's GOOD.
Stop being such a fucking fag who dismisses games just because [brand] is on the cover and do more research

>>7906085
the BF bad company games did black better and had multiplayer to boot.

>>7909007
Black is still worth playing though. It’s not like it’s a long game.

>>7908823
from what i've seen haze sounds like it could've been a legit fun parody of shooters like gears of war, COD, FEAR & halo if they didn't make you switch sides at the climax of the game and didn't try to play it straight.

like storming some third world shithole with your fratboy squadmates and bringing some non-negotiable democracy while you're high as a kite the whole time sound something you could've had alot of fun with.

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>>7908931
Consoom

>>7908748
>Black is an actual shooter
Eh? Black is a game that tries to dazzle you with graphics and late 90s irl cutscene acting. Literally all of the hype was highly upscaled screenshots that ignore the fact that the game struggles to reach 30 fps on either console. Both versions claimed they had reach HDR graphics when really it was just bloom with an obnoxious blur filter tacked on. Like, you'd go into iron sights with your gun and because there's a tree near your center of view, the entire screen, including the tree, would become insanely blurry and you can't see anything until you walk away from the tree.

>>7908879
Yeah, in the 80s and early 90s. Once Madden was their primary pillar, they were trash, nobody disputes this.

>>7910725
>Literally all of the hype was highly upscaled screenshots that ignore the fact that the game struggles to reach 30 fps on either console
The game runs perfectly fine. It's also a very fun shooter. Console shooters were much better than PC ones at the time.

>>7910731
>The game runs perfectly fine.
The game can't reach 30 fps when you're shooting at enemies.

Also nobody is fooled, you're purposefully ignoring the rest of the post because you can't half-troll dismiss it.

>>7910740
>The game can't reach 30 fps when you're shooting at enemies.
It has no problem running at 30fps. Only times it drops is with a scripted destruction sequence. I don't address trolls thoroughly because I only have interest in dismissing them entirely.

>>7906085
Give BLACK the HL2 AI and it would be the perfect game.

>>7910753
>It has no problem running at 30fps. Only times it drops is with a scripted destruction sequence.
I played the PS2 version. It can't reach 30 FPS in most firefights. I get it, you can't tell the difference, but that doesn't mean what you're saying is true.

This is funny because you tried to set the game up as an HL2 killer like a faggot who guzzles down corporate cum even though nobody with a brain would try to compare them in the first place.

>>7910769
I played the Xbox version, it runs fine. HL2 is dog shit by the way.

>>7910771
I bet the xbox version runs like shit, too. Criterion were unironically the second-best PS2 programmers in the world, after only Santa Monica. I looked at videos at the time and could see it wasn't graphically any better despite claiming it had HDR when it doesn't.

I played HL2 like a decade after it came out and it's much better than Black, also your video is apparently a video of the game with the AI disabled, and don't try to claim otherwise. You aren't impressing anybody.

You like a shit game and everybody knows it.

>>7910769
Not him, but Black has better gunplay, art direction, sound effects, and level design than HL2. HL2 definitely felt like a cinematic game that tried its hardest to look pretty and well, cinematic, rather than be fun to play. BLACK doesn't pretend to be anything more than a fun FPS game. Granted HL2 has much better AI, but feels like its barely utilized at all in favor of the cinematic sequences. It's been a problem since HL1, but HL2 took it to another level of cinematic.

>>7910776
False. Try harder.

Black is mediocre and not retro.

>>7910771
>program a sophisticated AI
>put it in a rail shooter level design
For what purpose? HL2 devs were seriously retarded.

>>7910778
>>7906085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QqXrW1WpZA

>>7910783
it's supposed to wow you with the AI doing impressive things, despite it all being pre-canned animations.

>>7910792
>/k/
Not gonna click that shit.

>>7910796
your game is shit blacknigger.

>>7910778
No it doesn't. Black is more linear than HL2 and it absolutely has worse art direction and sound effects.

I'll give you that it has better gunplay, but that was a common complaint with HL2 in general, it's not hard to have better gunplay than "only the revolver, crossbow, and gravity gun are powerful"
>HL2 definitely felt like a cinematic game that tried its hardest to look pretty and well, cinematic, rather than be fun to play.
You mean Black. Black ludicrously cinematic for no effect.
>BLACK doesn't pretend to be anything more than a fun FPS game.
LOL so those cutscenes where I'm listening to some generic special forces guy tell us how everything went down didn't happen, huh?
>Granted HL2 has much better AI
HL2 has shit AI, I dunno what you're talking about, that was another big complaint about HL2 at the time. Go play HL1 some time.
>It's been a problem since HL1, but HL2 took it to another level of cinematic.
You don't know what cinematic means. Literally telling the story IN CINEMATICS is when video games started being described as cinematic. This is how Black tells its story when it isn't giving you graphics over gameplay.

Stop trying to compare Black to HL2, btw. HL2 is merely a good game and it isn't comparable to shovelware like Black, in the same way the 7up platformers are shovelware and shouldn't be brought up in comparison to any other platformer that was actually good at the time. Just like HL2, any other competent shooter was better than Black and Black was disregarded because it's a bad game.

>>7910779
This isn't even an AI problem, now you're moving goalposts. The enemy isn't shooting because he can't hit Gordon, it's a defect with how the gun and physics are handled. If you program the AI to shoot anyway then Gordon still doesn't take damage.

>>7910792
>Criterion literally stated that the game is based on deliberately unrealistic 80's action movies and John Woo shootouts
>Years after the game came out, retard nigger /k/ wannabes bitch about it being unrealistic to their modern realism-obsessed whore "standards" that did not exist at the time the game came out
Commit violent suicide at your earliest convenience.

Black is the poor man's FEAR.

>>7906085
Even in the kiddie pool of console FPS, it fails to compete at any level with its peers like Timesplitters or Halo. I can't comprehend how it became a minor cult classic

>>7910814
lmao you're retarded. Black was specifically marketed as a realistic looking shooter and nothing else. Who cares what the devs said.

You ever play Stranglehold? That's a video game based on John Woo shootouts. LMAO at the idea of Black being anything similar.

>>7910817
Fear had legit aims and goals, though, like good AI and good graphics that were actually impressive for reasons other than "it even runs on the PS2!"

>>7906085
i played this somewhat recently and this game is basically responsible for all the COD games imo.

>>7910809
>it's not hard to have better gunplay than "only the revolver, crossbow, and gravity gun are powerful"
Its not hard to make a better game than half life 2 then. Because when youre making a first person fucking shooter game, and your gunplay sucks, youre absolutely done.
>Black ludicrously cinematic for no effect.
Even during most of the cinematic sequences, you get to shoot enemies though.
>LOL so those cutscenes where I'm listening to some generic special forces guy tell us how everything went down didn't happen, huh?
Pretty sure HL2 has more sequences where you're just standing in one place listening to someone.
>HL2 has shit AI
It's actually not shit, they just dont know how to utilize it.
>graphics over gameplay
Its got both.

>>7910792
Crazy how Black actually has better smoke effects and gun sounds than FEAR despite running on a hardware not even half as powerful as the ones that could run FEAR at a low double digit fps.

>>7910836
>marketed as a realistic looking shooter
Wrong, you dumbass nigger.
>Who cares what the devs said
The devs who had full creative control of it and said what it was gonna fucking be, down to using sound effects from actual action movies.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120703055131/http://www.criteriongames.com:80/black/behindthescenes/choirofguns/
Now shut the fuck up.

>>7906085
I don't like Half Life 2 but Black is extremely mediocre. The only good things it has are the explosions and sound design.

>>7906090
It's made by Criterion, brainlet.

>>7910845
>Pretty sure HL2 has more sequences where you're just standing in one place listening to someone.
What a cop out, first of all, this isn't true, there are in fact more cinematic (actual cinematic, btw) sequences in Black, and there's more time spent in Black's cinematic sequences than the ones spent listening to Alyx or whoever talk, despite the fact that HL2's plot points aren't cinematic sequences.

Bitch all you want about how you can't shoot anybody when HL2 makes you listen to a character but that's not a cinematic. A cinematic is when a game just straight up stops rendering and forces you to watch a prerendered video instead of the fucking video game. This is what Black does. Half-Life being cinematic is a meme brought on by children who don't know that the series was appreciated for NOT including cinematics and trying to make everything in-engine. It's a meme that this is anywhere near as bad as what Black does. HL2 is comparable to games like System Shock, where you are fed the plot through audio logs. You can tell the faggots the bitch about HL2 are wrong because they never think to bring up HL1, which had the exact same system as HL2 but without unique animations so it goes over their head.

>It's actually not shit, they just dont know how to utilize it.
No, HL2's AI is shit. For instance in HL1, if a Marine sees you and you hide behind a box, his AI will throw a grenade at the last place he saw you, behind the box. You're one of those morons who thinks that "if only they had mapped the AI better in each level, HL2 would have good AI" when that was actually just a final symptom of a development wide problem.

>>7910885
>The only good things it has are the explosions and sound design.
And the satisfying damage feedback animations for the enemies. The things that matter the most, yet most FPS games lack. These put BLACK above the rest.

>>7910884
LMAO devs have no control over marketing and Black was marketed as a realistic shooter.

No ifs, ands, or buts, this is final.

>The devs who had full creative control of it
Who cares? Nobody cares what they said in an interview. Again, go play Stranglehold sometime. That is an actual John Woo game, btw, the actual director participated in that game. That's what "John Woo in a video game" looks like. It's arcadey and stupid and fun unlike Black which is only stupid, in the bad way.

>>7910896
>And the satisfying damage feedback animations for the enemies
No it fucking doesn't. Enemies flail around in the most ridiculous way imaginable.

>>7910782
>PS2
Seems to check all of the retro requirements.

>>7910836
>realistic looking
And it was. Mechanically? Not really.

>>7910897
>devs have no control over marketing
Criterion had full control of their IPs in contract with EA after Burnout 2 and no amount of erroneous marketing would change their game, unless EA wanted to be sued for misleading consumers.
They outright said they did for FPS what they've done for racers with Burnout, and it was NOT "make it realistic" you dumb bitch.

>>7910912
>Criterion had full control of their IPs in contract with EA after Burnout 2 and no amount of erroneous marketing would change their game
I didn't read the rest of your post.

Publishers are always in charge of marketing, in fact it's one of their jobs. Criterion cannot gainsay this as they're owned by the publisher in the first place.

The fact that you're trying to argue that Black was marketed as anything other than a realistic shooter is so fucking funny. The only thing anybody said about it was that the graphics looked realistic, because that's the only thing anybody period said about it, including the marketing team.

>>7910892
>What a cop out, first of all, this isn't true, there are in fact more cinematic (actual cinematic, btw) sequences in Black, and there's more time spent in Black's cinematic sequences than the ones spent listening to Alyx or whoever talk, despite the fact that HL2's plot points aren't cinematic sequences.
I've been scrounging BLACK gameplay videos for the cinematic sequences I don't remember existing. I don't think I found any. I think you might be retarded.
>A cinematic is when a game just straight up stops rendering and forces you to watch a prerendered video instead of the fucking video game.
Lmao, that's just called a cutscene, not a cinematic sequence. Prerendered cutscenes mixed with filmed footage of real actors are a lost art nowadays, and games like HL series killed it.
>Half-Life being cinematic is a meme brought on by children who don't know that the series was appreciated for NOT including cinematics and trying to make everything in-engine.
Yeah, you stand in a place being forced to listen to someone, or beat some levels in the most scripted way possible or else you die. This is cinematic gameplay, and even worse than the ones you find in CoD.
>HL2 is comparable to games like System Shock, where you are fed the plot through audio logs
System Shlock 2 was trash and still nowhere as cinematic as HL2.
>You can tell the faggots the bitch about HL2 are wrong because they never think to bring up HL1, which had the exact same system as HL2 but without unique animations so it goes over their head.
I brought up HL1 at least once in this thread. While it started a bunch of unholy trends in FPS game industry, it's still a better game than HL2. HL2 was a blight.

>You're one of those morons who thinks that "if only they had mapped the AI better in each level, HL2 would have good AI" when that was actually just a final symptom of a development wide problem.
HL1's enemies were far more scripted than HL2.

>>7910898
>Enemies flail around in the most ridiculous way imaginable.
*satisfying way imaginable

>alftranny likes black
lmao

>>7910927
>defending black and cod
>hating hl and ss2
you have to go back kiddo

This is why allowing 6th gen was a mistake.

>>7910920
>Black was marketed as anything other than a realistic shooter is so fucking funny
No evidence on the contrary. Not even EA's own website says anything about realism. Its graphics were marketed as being advanced with all the fancy particle effects. It's even on the damn back cover of the game.

>>7910960
>No evidence on the contrary.
I'm the evidence. It's called a primary source, meaning someone who was there. Every magazine ad, every online screenshot (which was always high res even though the game wasn't), all material provided by EA for dissemination through every medium was literally just still screens of the game trying to pretend it was a realistic looking shooter running on the PS2.

>>7910953
>defending cod
nope
>hating ss2
yep, it's a piece of shit and doesnt hold a candle to the first game

>>7910969
your taste is embarrassing

>>7910958
Cope.

>>7910965
And my dad works at nintendo, I was there.

>>7910927
>Prerendered cutscenes mixed with filmed footage of real actors are a lost art nowadays, and games like HL series killed it.
thank god

>>7910975
Whine some more, fag, everybody know what Black's marketing campaign at the time was. The fact that you're trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel for alternative theories just proves the point. Anybody looking at OP's pic knows that's an ad for a realistic experience, not your John Woo fantasy.

I bet people would be overall okay with Black (sorta like people are overall okay with the GBA Golden Sun fans) if the community wasn't full of shit, smug, lying, and trying to positively compare themselves to better games all the time.

>>7910986
>Ever since we first clapped eyes on the tech demo for Black about a year ago it was glaringly obvious this would be a game to watch. A game where the central concept was about "being able to have fun with a gun in an empty room," where "the gun is the star," and one that was "going to do for shooters what Burnout did for racing games". Or in other words, the most insane levels of destruction your eyes have ever seen outside of a big-budget Hollywood blockbuster.
>going to do for shooters what Burnout did for racing games
Lmao no its not.

Black has no mods

>>7910990
Better games in what respect? Granted Black doesn't have the AI, photorealistic graphics, and physics of FEAR, but it's better in every other aspect and runs on a much cheaper and older hardware.

>>7910993
>interviews
Exciting. Meanwhile what I said was actually true and was everyone's reaction to the million still images.

This was literally Black's marketing. "Look at this game, this is a PS2 game!!!!!!!!" spammed everywhere.

>>7910996

Yeah this, this kind of faggotry. This is the type of grade A retard bullshit that people spout that ruins Black. I'd say something like "well it's not the real fanbase" but actually it is. This is what Black's fanbase has been from day 1.

Black's a shitty console shooter that runs better than expected on consoles (graphics). That's it. That's the game.

Even Halo fanboys will just tell you that they like Halo because they had fun playing 16 player on four TVs in one room with all their friends and their friends of friends while eating pizza and maybe even drinking some of that one guy's dad's beer. Literally all you have is just graphics, and the thread starts out with this BULLSHIT
>Black, the better half life 2

>>7911001
It does look realistic for a PS2 game.

>>7911006
>Black's a shitty console shooter that runs better than expected on consoles (graphics). That's it. That's the game.
It also looks and sounds better than HL2, Doom 3, Far Cry, FEAR, and whatever AAA shooter of its era. Every gun sounds like a cannon and shooting the wall with them generates tons of smoke and dust. The enemy damage feedback animations look like as if they were hit by something with as much power as a 50 caliber. None of those other games did this.

>>7906085
Definitely not retro.

Black ruined the genre

>>7911042

how does gay ben cum taste?

>>7910927
>This is cinematic gameplay, and even worse than the ones you find in CoD.
>While it started a bunch of unholy trends in FPS game industry
you mean Black?
>>7911067
what being an EA shill feels like?

>>7906085
Defintely not retro

>>7911085
This HL is better

This is what zoomers actually believe.

Delete the thread, retarded janitor.

>>7911081
>you mean Black?
No, BLACK doesnt even have in game cinematic sequences or much storytelling outside the cutscenes played in between levels. It's more akin to classic Medal of Honour than CoD.

>>7911108
So pleb garbage?

>>7911110
>>7911119
>giant testicle
>phallus
>genitals
HLfags are literally gay.

>>7911126
Not as gay as liking Black

>>7911017
Delusional

Guess OP can't recover after this.

>>7908817
>using "advanced AI" as an argument for black.
Where the hell did I say that? I was just pointing out that Half Life2's AI isn't advanced at all

>>7911241
>spams a whole artbook instead of making literally any argument
>"mommy i won!"
steamcucks are giving tendies and sega/sanic autists a run for their money

>>7910965
>I'm the evidence
lmao look at this fucking tard

>>7910995
underrated post

>>7911347
Yeah, HL2 is only good because it gives us mods that are better than the original game and gmod.

>>7906085
whats the best way to play Black on PC?

>>7911404
>on pc

>>7911404
ps2 emulation

hl2umors really are a cancer on this board. Hopefully one day they can stop incessantly derailing threads about games they feel threatened by.

>>7906085
Black is a doo doo turd joke of a first person shooter for retards.
Half Life 2 is shit but at least it isn't Black.

>>7906085
The original title for this game was black nigger but they had to change it.

>>7906085
/k/s worst nightmare

>>7912027
Does /k/ actually hate this game? Do they hate fun?

What a joke board

>>7912303
>Black
>fun

>>7910771
>God mode
Wooooow, I can just stand there and shoot loool

>>7910927
i don't think you ever played HL or SS2
But hey keep defending your zoomer garbage

This website is a disease.

>>7912542
Alf ruined the board forever

>>7906085
Black, the lower Soldier Of Fortune

>>7910845
>Crazy how Black actually has better smoke effects and gun sounds than FEAR
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

OP btfo

>>7910927
Black is everything wrong with 00's fps games

>>7912581
Fear's weapons are pathetically limp. Dunno how they managed to make a nail gun that sucks cock, but they achieved it. Monolith are such a mediocre dev

>>7906085

Its a great game but its no hl2

>>7913615
Condemned had more satisfying guns. FEAR's guns just suck ass. Still not as awful as HL2's guns though.

>>7913615
>>7913696
Black sucks

>>7913000
No other 00s FPS games played like BLACK.

>>7913641
Thank god it isnt.

>>7913703
Yeah no other fps sucked this much.
Ready to admit you have shit taste alf?

>>7913708
No one here has any God damn clue what they're talking about. Fucking useless thread.

>>7913708
>>7913720
Didn't mean to quote. But whatever.

>>7913720
I'm sorry /vr/ doesn't care about your zoomie fps

>>7912303
>fun

>>7906085
pretty, but shallow
>two guns
>cant jump
>no blood

>this thread
Holy shit PC fags are insufferable

>>7914925
Don't you mean Half Life shitters/Valvedrons?

This entire thread is so incoherent
Literally no one cared about Black, it was just another run of the mill generic console FPS
If you really want to compare it to HL2, look at which one people still remember and replay yearly versus Black, which no one has thought about since the time they saw it in a magazine back in 2004

>>7914946
Personally I'm more of a Riddick guy which is insanely good looking and very fun, but Black is an excellent shooter. Right up there with the Time Splitters games.

>>7906085
Half-Life 2's legacy is held up by it's achievements at the time.

Anytime I play it today, I instantly get bored.

>dogshit gunplay
>mediocre story
>your character has no engagement within the story, except for "holy shit its gordon freeman!1", act like a distant observer the whole game
>artstyle ???????

The only thing good about it was the physics system, which no game has really beat even to this day. It's too bad Half-Life 2 basically never lets you get creative with its physics ever.

I've never played black but it looks 10x more fun than Half-Life 2's peashooter simulation.

>>7914950
>Escape from Butcher Bay
This is a good game because it actually innovated, I mean the gameplay is wildly more complex and varied than even HL2. Black just feels like a Killzone or post GE James Bond clone and the premise isn't engaging whatsoever.
>>7914957
HL2's story elements can get a bit boring but the emergent gameplay that comes from the physics and AI is great. Gun fights are rarely the same due to the way they designed each area and how the AI behaves. Plus so many classic setpieces like the bridge, Ravenholm, ant lion dunes, storming the beach before Nova Prospekt, etc.

>>7914971
>Black just feels like a Killzone or post GE James Bond clone and the premise isn't engaging whatsoever.
Nah, it rides its highly polished visuals and effects well. It's a fun game with decently challenging sequences, lots to discover and unlock and delights plenty with its destruction and fine details.

>>7914971
I will give Half-Life 2 those points. The actual fights themselves are actually pretty fun, and the set pieces are iconic. It's just a shame the game is so boring before it even gets warmed up (Ravenholm and beyond is decent).

Ironically, I think HL2's battles are better than FEARs, which while claiming to have "smart" AI, every enemy encounter in FEAR plays and feels very same-y. Whereas in HL2, even though the shooting itself sucked, each fight felt a little different due to the geometry and how it forced you to utilize your weapons in a smart manner.

>>7914992
I never finished FEAR but the graphics and atmosphere were really nice, especially the lighting from what I recall. HL2 excels at forcing you to use every weapon in your inventory on hard difficulty which is really nice, I was surprised how unforgiving it can be about ammo management if you're wasteful.

>>7914946
>look at which one people still remember and replay yearly
HOLY HECKERINO LETS PLAY HALF LIFE FRIENDS

>>7910730
>nobody disputes this
Evidently correct, kek

>>7915027
what did Gabe Newell do to you?

It was terrible at the time and it's still terrible.

>>7906085
There's no jumping or physics retard

>>7915027
>>7906085
>>7910771
>>7910927
>>7914929
>>7915027
this based series forever in OP's head rent free
How does it feel being kicked from the doom/retro fps thread schizo?

>>7906085
loved the custom soundtrack feature, hard to beat blasting bad guysto your favourite tunes, Xbox only of course none of that fun for PS2 owners

Nice bait thread

>>7915093
Neither in doom.

>>7906085
Half Life 2 is a shit sequel to one of the best games of all time so the bar isn’t that high

>>7915517
Half Life is pure shit, imagine making that image

>>7910783
>rail shooter level design
Am I the only one who played past Ravenholm? They only go with the rail shooter level design for the first few chapters.

>>7906085
the problem with this gane is, it's on the PS2/Xbox, and if I'm going to play a shooter on one of these consoles, why would I be playing anything other than Timesplitters or Halo CE?

>>7906085
I would compare Psi Ops, really. Since all the HL2 fags are like "ZOMG GRAVITY GUN IS SO ORIGINAL" and Psi Ops had telekinesis prior to that.

>>7918224
Black is pure shit, imagine making this thread.

>>7918310
Not even the same genre

>>7917182
This is a 2006 game, fucking embarrassing you defend garbage like this

>>7918454
They're both shit, you're both faggots

>>7918518
Nah HL and it's mods are based

>>7918527
Nah it's all shit

>>7918543
ok zoomie

>>7918546
cope

>>7918549
dilate

>>7918554
seethe

>>7918561
what's the matter, OP?
can't defend your baby first PS2 fps anymore?

>>7913701
yeah

>>7918564
>outright say both of them suck
>hurr durrr what's wrong op you love this game
lrn2read you fucking animal

>>7918572
not fooling anyone.

>>7918505
Doom would still be a good game despite the lack of jumping if it came out in 2006.

>>7918518
Black is good though, it's got loud gunplay and great smoke and particle effects. HL2 is just boring.

>>7918581
Too Black wouldn't

>>7918585
*Too bad

>>7918583
see>>7910792

>>7918592
He's got a voice of a tgirl.

>>7918457
They're video games. That's the genre.

>>7918598
>console shit
>good

>>7911968
>Half Life 2 is shit but at least it isn't Black
based

>>7912542
You would probably fit in better on reddit

>>7918543
The numbers say otherwise, comparatively.

Take it back to /v/.
This game doesn't belong here

>>7918721
They both qualify.

Cope Coleco boomer

OP is a faggot.