/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7907539
Worked fine for me

>>7907539
It is shitty but it's so unbelievably perfect for smash that it's actually perfect best controller ever(just only for smash)

>>7907546
OOT as well

>>7907563
It isn't even good for smash by default. Retards modify it all the time lmao (laugh my ass off).

>>7907582
It's literally godlike for smash most notably the cstick. They made that retarded cstick work incredibly.

I'm a meleefag btw

>>7907539
>zoomie filtered again
kwab

weak bait

>>7907539
>tiny
>small
It's a console intended for toddlers and the controller looks and works as intended. You're an adult, you're not supposed to in their target demographic anymore.

>>7907539
nintendo has consistently had shit controllers

>>7907539
I don't understand how anyone could defend that fucking D-pad

>>7908062
I honestly can live with the d-pad it's uncomfortable but still works. the c-stick and the lack of buttons on the other hand are problems that I can't overlook.

>>7907809
OP is right, controller is shit
>that d-pad
>that c-stick
>those CLACK CLACK CLACK triggers
>that face button layout
>less inputs than the standard of the time, so multiplats played worse on gamecube 9 times out of 10
Fucking garbage, belongs in the trash

>>7907539
look at the original design. It was going to be worse as Nintendo wanted to kill the dpad for good in favor of all analog movement, hence why it looks tacked on in the final.

>>7907539
no

>>7907539
FUCK YOU FAGGOT

I always hated this 3 button layout.

WiiU Pro
>Front half is gloss
>Back half is matte

WHY

>>7908062
it's not meant to be used from their 3d obsession, so it's relagated to secondary functions
the xbox one was unbelievably worse even though it was bigger

>>7907539
Fun Fact: Early versions of the Gamecube controller didn't even have a D-pad, and they reused the same tiny D-pad from the first model GBA.

reee muh smash

>>7908180
you will trigger the smash manchildren

>>7907539

I only started using the GC controller when I started emulating shit on the Wii and I can confirm you are very wrong and it's unironically one of the comfiest controllers around

>>7908545
>Fun Fact: I am more of a faggot than OP

OP forgetting controllers are about comfort and ease of pressing buttons, not how good a d-padis that no one uses for gameplay. GC con was the best controller of all time for comfort and button pressing ability, including shoulders

>>7908663
You can make a gamepad with just only one button so you can totally adapt the form factor to the hand perfectly. Problem is, you won't be able to play a single game with it.

GC Gamepad's problem was just that, lack of buttons and weird layout which didn't work for a lot of games.

Every time I see somebody claim that it was a perfect gamepad, that someone is telling me that he only plays Nintendo games and nothing else.

Its a bad controller in terms of stick calibration and overall durability but in terms of design its one of my favorite controllers. feels great in your hands and those huge triggers and A button feel great.

>>7907539
LIterally the most comfy, intuitive controller I have ever used. There is no other acceptable way to play RE4.

>>7908837
>There is no other acceptable way to play RE4.
except it's better on Wii

>>7908062
I can't understand who would care about this. Aside from fighting games or emulating older games, how often do you actually use the d-pad in 3D games? I can't think of any Gamecube game that I had issue with using the d-pad. Complain about the diminute second analog, now that's an actual issue when playing shooters. This controller is the peak of comfort, and the only people that complain are burgers that need the disgusting Xbox controller because their sausage fingers can't hold anything else.

>>7908953
A couple of sega naomi shmups on the gay cube.

>>7908953
>This controller is the peak of comfort, and the only people that complain are burgers that need the disgusting Xbox controller because their sausage fingers can't hold anything else.
I'm extremely skinny and I find the controller uncomfortable because my hands are too large for it

>>7908663
>OP forgetting controllers are about comfort and ease of pressing buttons
Okay. I find the Gamecube controller uncomfortable.

>>7908545
Ok, I'm gonna swap d-pads with my gamecube and gameboy advance now. That is really cool

>>7908850
Ugh gross.

It sucks because the d-pad is small

>>7908976
You have weird hands then because everybody I know finds it to be maximum comfiness

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>>7909248
This is just interjection but somehow even more autistic.

>>7908680
18+ reddit

>>7910003
now port Tony Hawk Pro Skater to it

>>7908394
This controller is probably based off the JAMMA arcade standard which only has three buttons per player and start button (also coin is technically a button but is unnecessary for a console).

>>7908394
I loved it at the time, but it feels lacking now.

>>7910003
disingenuous response
"gotchas" do not make for real arguments

>>7908953
>Aside from older games
I think you must have gotten lost, this is /vr/

>>7907539
The GC controller was objectively bad. It has less functionality than its competitors, one barely usable C stick and a terrible D-pad. The position of the A button and the shape of the X and Y buttons around it were rather genius though. Easy access to 3 buttons at once without accidentally pressing one you don't want.

People shit on the N64 controller but you technically have access to the same number of buttons as its competition at the time of its release. The GC controller was released after the dual shock so they really have no excuse anymore. Were they ignoring Sony and making comparisons to the Dreamcast controller or something?

>>7908639
This. The d-pad can be a problem though, but it's rare.
SNES Classic controller works great too.

>>7907539
nah, i have one of the newer ones they made for Smash for Wii U and it feels great and fits my hands perfectly. only problems with it is that the sticks don't click down so there's no L3 and R3 and no L2. the clacky noises the sticks and triggers make are really satisfying feedback for games like smash and mario kart.

>>7907539
It's still comfy as fuck to this day. Only for Gamecube games, though.

>>7909248

when you point out shit like that it's obviously flawed but none of the games on the system actually suffered for it
it's not a good universal controller to use on a pc but for gamecube games it is good

>>7907539
Perfect for Melee and Project M.

>>7908837
Too bad theres no good reason to play re4.

Everyone talks about the layout but what about the feel of the controller? Felt clunky as fuck, felt like cheap plastic, a toy. Left thumbstick always ripped to shreds after a couple of years. I forgot I literally had wounds on my left thumb from the shitty left thumbstick. What was the point of that singular Z1 button. Stupid. Also I just now realized that the X and Y buttons are what would happen if R1 and L1 from the PS were retarded and decided to go on the face of the controller and just be on one side. The fuck where they thinking?

>>7910176
Cope more faggot

>>7910217
>Were they ignoring Sony and making comparisons to the Dreamcast controller or something?
Miyamoto was having a mid-life crisis and couldn't cope with the increasing number of buttons required by games, so he thought video games needed to be streamlined. In his original conception, he wanted the GC to have even less buttons than what it ended up having.

>>7908205
literally the menu button looks tacked on in your picture, it's obviously a place for the dpad

>>7907539
>No ZL
Z is a menu button unlike select on the GC
Agree about the dpad a c stick though

>>7911584

>>7910221

I don't even use the dpad because the left stick feels and responds so well to every game I try with it. I hate to say it but a gamecube controller is typically how I prefer to experience /vr/ vidya now

Hope someone reading this stays mad, namely OP

>>7912361
>the left stick feels and responds so well to every game I try with it
I can't use it for 2D games, it just feels wrong, specially for fighting games.

>>7908062
Because nobody is.
That is why.

>>7907539
i have hated this damn thing from day 1 and i don't understand why people jerk off about it. it's small awkward and generally uncomfortable. most controllers you hit a button with the bottom of your thumb. with this purple piece of shit THERES IS NO FUCKING BUTTON THERE. i hate this piece of shit.
t smelly gaylee nigger

> perfecc for maylay
it's really not though. the jump buttons are in a terrible position. the C stick is out of the way. dashdancing requires you to hold the controller and angle your thumb at an awful position. Z button just feels weird. fox jump / shine canceling or shorthop dair makes you move your thumb like a madman. any smelly melee player whos been doing it seriously for a few years have damaged hands. myself included. fuck this piece of shit.

>>7908062
it's the only real flaw other than maaaaybe needing and l1 equivalent button. otherwise that gen had no 2d games save for retro collections, it's a controller made for 3d and in that realm it works fine.

>>7914085
> shorthop dair
shorthop uair where you have to jump within 3 frames and then jam up on the cstick. it's actually painful.

>smashfags

lol

>>7907810
>It's a console intended for toddlers and the controller looks and works as intended. You're an adult, you're not supposed to in their target demographic anymore
Please go back to /v/. /vr/ used to be a board where Nintendo fans could just post in piece, then you showed up when the rules changed.

Yup

>>7914085
It's perfect for Melee because that's what the early pros used (and all they could use) to develop their skills, and as is the zoomer way, future pros just copied the millenials and Gen Xers before them so the "GCN controller for Melee" meme persists to this day.

>>7910197
>the gamecube controller wasn't designed to play older games so the terrible d-pad can be excused
Apply yourself.