/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7868568
The Tower of the Wing Cap, duh.

>>7868573
/thread

>>7868573
Very funny, but where is it in regards to the rest of the game, or to the mushroom kingdom?

>>7868594
Everywhere, and nowhere. It’s a hallucination by Mario himself.

>>7868594
It's a fantastical representation of the castle itself towering high into the sky.

>>7868602
Is there seriously no lore about this?
>>7868627
Makes sense, but but how would he get it?

>>7868650
By looking into the light in the castle. It's fantastical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism

>>7868650
It’s a fucking video game, autist.

>>7868568
There are lots of weird things like this about the Mario franchise. For example: mushrooms. Why do they make Mario big? Pretty wacky if you ask me. Like, what were they smoking?

>>7868690
You're on the wrong website my friend.

>>7868568
I assume that a lot of the stuff in the paintings are like, magical and self-contained pocket realms.

>>7868736
The fortress is in mario galaxy, so it is real, Dire Dire Docks and Hazy Maze Cave have secret entrances to the castle grounds, so that means they're real. So if those three are real it likely means that the rest are, too.

Isn't it just inside the mural on the ceiling?
You know, like the paintings?

>>7868594
painting locations are not in mushroom kingdom, they are portals to the real world or other dimensions

>>7868753
hazy maze cave requires you to go into the metallic portal to exit or enter. theres no traditional entrance or exit to the castle grounds

>>7868710
>be OP
>make yet another GARBAGE thread
>get butthurt when called out
You only have like 5 good threads on this whole board, step it up

>>7868786
Is this not a contradiction?
>>7868792
This doesn't mean that it isn't taking you to just another place in the mushroom kingdom as a portal. Considering the closeness of the entrance out of Hazy Maze Cave, it is likely that it just looks like a portal.

>>7868820
You were calling me autistic as an insult on 4chan. I'm asking you if you don't like it then why come here? You're the one who sounds angry.
>You only have like 5 good threads on this whole board,
I have made just a single thread, this. I do not have five threads.

>>7868821
warning, this might crush your entire perception of reailty and self

>>7868792
Its oil bro. The cave is underground. Make the connection.

>>7868830
STOP

>>7868837
Or more likely: Bowser is a hack with no imagination

>>7868830
That's blue, you fucking lobster bitch.

>>7868830
Red, green, yellow, and blue are the logo colors. It was like that on the Super Famicom too.

>>7868691

Ever read Alice in Wonderland?

>>7868568
Like all the paintings in SM64, it's a magical world that exists within the castle's wall. The game even says that's what the worlds are. IIRC the first Toad you speak to tells you that Bowser hid Stars within the walls of the castle.

>>7868958
Please could read >>7868753. This doesn't make sense.

>>7868951
This. This is what I want to ask every single person who makes a stupid tired old Mario and drugs lmao joke. Fucking read Alice in Wonderland, people.
>>7868949
Part of me wishes they would have kept using multicolored logos, but then the sane part of realizes we're better off without woke weirdos trying to make political statements using Nintendo logos every June.

>>7868973
Yikes. Go back to /pol/, chud.

>>7868962
that could be a copy

>>7868753
>>7868962
I wouldn't put much stock into Throwback Galaxy. I mean, it's called "Throwback Galaxy". It was meant to be a treat for fans and not considered the actual Whomp's Fortress. In the case of Dire, Dire Docks and Hazy Maze Cave, they might be real or they might not considering you have to jump into portals to reach both. I'm not comfortable using the word "real" here anyway, as all these worlds obviously exist as much anything else in the Mushroom World, they're just magical creations of the Stars/Bowser's magic/Peach's magic.

>>7869002
That fortress has the same parts of the walls removed that you had to remove in the original game, and the npcs talk about the previous game. For the entrance of the Rainbow Ride and the other sky level next to it is is the same graphic as the painting to the right, pic related. And the other sky level is clearly real because if you fall off you fall into castle grounds, so it is above the castle.
>they're just magical creations of the Stars/Bowser's magic/Peach's magic.
What?

>>7868982
It is said in the galaxy game as the same one.

The whole castle itself is in another realm like the black lodge. Mario had to go up a pipe to get there which promptly vanished once he arrived.

>>7868981
>someone makes a reasonable point
>tourist chimes in with "back to /pol/, pills now, etc."
Every time.

>>7868568
Heaven, fren. :)

>>7869114
I said it as a joke.

>>7868830
based

>>7868568
You know how you stare at the sun to get there? That's the solar castle plexus

>>7869309
Castle plexus?

>>7869313
>she doesn't know

>>7869309
at where

>>7868792
Hazy cave is real and filled with peach's shit and piss that Mario gets to enjoy

Idk but I know how he got there

>>7868981
Go back to discord, tranny

>>7868568
As a kid I imagined it was the top of the castle, despite it not being visible in the castle grounds.

>>7869386
Same here. Or maybe peach just has multiple castles

>>7869317
Know what?

>>7869025
I'm just telling you what the game itself says. This is a direct quote from the very first Toad you see in the castle:
>"Am I glad to see you! The Princess...and I...and, well, everybody...we're all trapped inside the castle walls. Bowser has stolen the castle's Stars, and he's using their power to create his own world in the paintings and walls.
They're created worlds. If there's a place in outer space that looks like Whomp's Fortress it's either coincidence or there's some other explanation for it, but it's not the painting world. The game is very clear that these are magically created worlds, even the manual backs this up. As for Rainbow Ride, either that is a place that exists above the castle as you say, or it's just magic that returns Mario to the castle just like it returns him every time he's beaten within a world.

>>7868568
High above the castle I guess

>>7869469
*By the way, what I mean by Peach's magic is that Princess' Secret Slide and the secret aquarium and both seem to have been made as extensions of the castle. You're not really in the same fish tank that you see in that room, nor is there enough space in the castle walls for a huge slide, these are just magic worlds created by Peach to house those Stars.

>>7868594
It's above the castle, where else would it be? underground?

>>7868568
>located
but how is that possible

>>7868786
>painting locations
You don't access it via a painting

>>7869559
you look at the painting on the ceiling

>>7868792
Dont you can leave Hazy Maze Cave via the metal cap section and end up on the grounds

>>7868973
>>>7868951 #
>This. This is what I want to ask every single person who makes a stupid tired old Mario and drugs lmao joke. Fucking read Alice in Wonderland, people.


Magic mushrooms weren't illegal in Japan till 2002. There are definitively actual magic mushrooms in Nintendo games. In the Japanese version of Pokemon Red and Green, the Hiker that was localized with hayfever was high on magic mushrooms. The mushroom hunting guy in Link's Awakening. The mushrooms on your head in Mother 2, the literal blatant fucking mushroom trip in Mother 3, and We Heart Katamari' mushroom descriptions tell you which ones are poisonous and which ones made someone fall over laughing.

Im not saying its drugs but Im saying yes it was drugs.

>>7868568
It's inside the n64 cartridge

>>7869649
you jump into a nother metal pool to get form hazy maze cave to the metal cap cave behind the waterfall

>>7868786
>painting locations are not in mushroom kingdom, they are portals to the real world or other dimensions
There's no other world but the Mushroom World in the Mario games. It's not a fake world.

>>7869670
I like those legal magic mushrooms that changes people's size. Because it's an Alice in Wonderland reference.

>>7868917
>lobster bitch.
What a random insult.

>>7869670
>The mushrooms on your head in Mother 2, the literal blatant fucking mushroom trip in Mother 3
You mean those games that are full of psychedelic 60s references because the creator and the composers grew up watching American TV and listening to American music in the 60s? Yes, those are psychedelic mushrooms. Not part of the literal magical (not magic) Mushroom World that was partly inspired by Alice in Wonderland.

>>7868917
yea it was before they decided on wwaluigis final color

>>7869857
>yea

>>7868837
Not Casares, but Shibam, Yemen.

>>7868691
>>7869670
>>7869791
>No one has imagination! Anyone who has done anything creative was only able to do it because they took the same drugs I'm addicted to and base my entire personality around!
God I hate you faggots.

why the fuck does this have 60+ replies

>>7870217
It's a thread about one of the most popular retro games, why shouldn't it? What type of thread do you think deserves 60+ replies?

>>7870256
It's the most retarded premise for a super mario 64 thread I've ever read

>>7870257
How?

whats this supposed to be?

>>7870290
Mario shoots it with his slingshot to open the door

>>7870214
psychedelics and consciousness are entangled together if you decide to acknowledge it or not anon.

not everyone who tries drugs turns into a junky overnight- just like not everyone who sips a glass of wine with their date is an alcoholic

get a fucking grip sperg
its a cultural reference
stop being mad

>>7870310
Shut the fuck up brain damaged retard.

>>7870310
>Psychedelics, a chemical substance, is entangled together with the state of being alive.
I don't even understand how that makes any sense.

Every single person whom I know who does drugs is a junky. No exception whatsoever. They base their whole personality around it and think they're somehow enlightened or something, it's ridiculous. Go back to /x/ or whatever it is.

>>7870321
>>Psychedelics, a chemical substance, is entangled together with the state of being alive.
>I don't even understand how that makes any sense.
hes a fucking stupid nigger

>>7870321
anecdotal evidence is fact
>im surrounded by retards therefore everyone is a retard

educate yourself

>>7870330
like it or not
every popular entertainment medium you consume or ever will consume was directly impacted by "drugs" in some way.

music, movies, theatre, vidya
no escape from reality normie

>>7868594
Pretty much everything is clearly its own pocket dimension. I don't see you asking where the desert is in relation to Peach's castle.

>>7868568
top of the castle
when you fall youre out front remember?

you DO remember playing at launch? right?

>>7868830
is this a mandela effect?
i remembered only red
got 120 stars in my youth but maybe i forgot or didn't notice somehow?

that level is a pain in the ass for a young kid with thrashed sticks

so you know i replayed that level a LOT

am i the only one?

>>7868602
Mario if he hallucinate wildly

I have a theory that the red switch is princess peach's clitoris

>>7868949
Yep. I wonder if the SFC buttons and these towers being the inverse layout had any significance to N64 development.

>>7869585
"Rainbow Road?"

>>7868594
Fisher Kings Cap

>>7869002
>>7869778
>>7869791
>still using "Mushroom World" outside SMB3 context

>>7870402
Same, makes me think it's from the DS version but the visuals look like are from the N64 game.

>>7870567
its a theory...
a GAME THEORY

>>7868951
Yeah, it’s about math, not drugs.

>>7870334
>Every single media was made with the aid of psychedelics.
You really are mentally ill.

>>7870331
Oh very smart. I can very easily find some statistics to prove that the vast majority of you faggots are junkies.

>>7870290
Looks like the beta symbol could have been a clock.

Mario 64 always had this 30's cartoon aura to it that the later games never really replicated.

>>7868568
This is what bowser dreams. Any zone you enter besides the castle itself is what happens when Mario does shrooms

>>7868650
>Is there seriously no lore about this?
in the children's game where you jump through paintings to get stars to save a princess from a turtle?
no, probably not.

This takes place in heaven. Canonically, Mario dies after getting 10 power stars, the rest of the game takes place in the afterlife. After going to heaven, Mario decides that he was too sinful to go to heaven and rejects it for purgatory, where he has delusions of finishing his mission to defeat Bowser. Every Mario game after this is just more delusions of purgatory.

>>7870567
Hitting it causes you to fly...?
>>7870656
I don't know of any other name Nintendo has used for it other than something lame like "Mario's world".

>>7868830
Orange not yellow. Green is diff from luigi.

>>7872005
>If they aren't identical then it's just pure coincidence
cope

>>7872047
You cope.

>>7870368
>asking where the desert is in relation to Peach's castle.
That is not relevant.

>>7870368
>the desert
what

>>7872158
You heard the anon.

>>7872143
What's irrelevant is the question of where each of the stages are in relation to Peach's castle. Both the game and instructional manual say that Bowser created worlds within the paintings/walls of the castle (the only exceptions, as I said earlier in the thread, are the secret slide and secret aquarium made by Peach). Where is the desert level in relation to Peach's castle? It doesn't matter. Call it a pocket dimension like that guy said, or just use Nintendo's own type of language and call it an enchanted world inside the painting. I'm not anti-Mario lore or anything (in fact I kind of hate it when people mock the idea of continuity and lore in the Mario series), but you and a few others in this thread seem to be thinking way too deeply about this when the game is crystal clear on what and where the painting worlds are.

>>7871289
good take

>>7871289
>>7872236
How?

>>7869585
Yeah but when you fall, you fall down outside of the castle, like you fell off the roof.

>>7872278
well considering he used the word aura it is somewhat up to interpretation but I like what he means

>>7872235
Yes, but mario galaxy contradicts this with one of the stages, it is clearly evident in that stage that it is the same thing. So by extent it seems logical that the entire thing would be retconned, too.

>>7872669
Anon, when Mario dies in that Galaxy 2 stage, does he immediately get spit out of a painting into Peach's castle? No? Then it's a different place. In a universe as vast and fantastical as Mario's there's no reason it can't be that there's a planet that coincidentally looks like the world inside of one of Princess Peach's paintings.

>>7872749
I don't know about that. I think it makes more sense as the same place. Do you know what happens if you die in one of the castle secret star stages? Perhaps that can be used to discover why going through the paining makes you come out again if you die.

>>7872047
More importantly, Waluigi didn't exist yet.

>>7872945
Yeah that is right, Waluigi was made in 2002.

Heh, it's like Waluigi is an all-powerful entity that transcends video games into real life or anything... yeah LOL haha

>>7872952
leddit humor

>>7872954
yes yes yes

>>7872952
Waluigi made his debut in Mario Tennis, which was released in 2000.

>>7872971
Which was in development for 4 years, making it perfectly plausible that there was some crossover of ideas between Camelot and the SM64 development team. Checkmate, Christians. ;)

>>7868568
As a kid I always saw it as the roof of the castle, even though the roof was in plain view and didn't look anything like that.

>>7868568
the top of the castle

>>7872669
>>7872824
Maybe I'll never get it but why do you care? Mario games are not built with story, or lore, or continuity in mind, so why try to force it?

The in Mario 64 the paintings take you to a magical created world. In Galaxy a throwback to this was created for fan service. That's literally it. The game designers thought it was cool and fun, and it was. It's okay to not be anything more than that.

>>7868951
What the fuck I never thought about that til now, good point

>>7874734
Because it's fun to discuss or attempt to put together a concise canon.

>>7873109
How the fuck does it take four years to make a tennis game? Was there an RPG subplot that got scrapped?

>>7874787
I was being facetious, anon. I thought the "checkmate" bit at the end would have made that clear.

>>7868594
>>7868573

>>7868792

Hazy Maze Cave is actually the castle's sewage system. That's why there are pipes on the walls in that room. The giant rolling rocks are actually great balls of shit.

>>7868594
It's in an adjacent QPU.

>>7875990
That explains the poisonous gas that causes Mario to die if he's in it too long. Damn, you're really onto something there.

>>7868568
Same place as Mario's Rainbow Castle and the rainbow court in Mario Tennis 64

bump

>>7868594
You fucking loser

>>7868594
Email nintendo and request a copy of the official floor plans

>>7876645
Why would Mario terrorize his friends like this

>>7880346
Mario's idea of a Party has always been pretty fucked up

>>7870368
the desert is part of the southern end of the Mushroom Kingdom as a whole

>>7868650
this is just way too autistic, OP. next you’re going to start wondering where the giant bird made of sand blocks in mario sunshine is at canonically

>>7879486
Go back you boring faggot.
>>7881147
Not retro, but perhaps those towers are floating in the sky. Or maybe it's the same place but a different art style.

>>7880346
>>7880630
HIS PARTY
HIS RULES

>>7872235
All the secret courses are hidden stars put there by peach or already part of the castle. So that includes cap switch stages and the 8 red coin course on the top floor, not just slide/aquarium.

Switch stages are most interesting since they may be part of the castle. Metal (which is accessed from but not part of hazy maze) leads out to the waterfall, while vanish cap may be beneath the castle grounds. Those could also just be pocket dimensions with magic warps to/from the castle though.

Wingcap course is...weird.

Dire Dire Docks is presumably real, and not accessed by a painting. Backdoor memes aside, it does lead into the pond out of Peach’s castle if you go through the opened underwater door. Or maybe he made a world with a warp in it that leads to the castle.

The three bowser locations might be real. Mario flies back to the castle after the third. The entrance to them all are warp zones instead of a direct path though.

I’m just saying that aside from the paintings, some locations are ambiguously either real or ‘made’. Hazy Maze Cave is also ambiguous as to which it is.

>>7868949
>>7870571
That’s actually pretty cool.

>>7868573
>no shadows to offer depth cues about where the red coins are located in 3D space
amateurs

>>7882105
Shifting Sand Land and Tick Tock Clock also aren't accessed by paintings and Wing Mario Over the Rainbow leads back to the castle's courtyard if you fall out of it

where was this room located in the castle?

>>7883019
SSS is accessed by a painting that looks like a wall.

TTC isnt a painting, but still a world made by the power of the stars as applied to a clock instead of a painting.

>>7870000
it's both

>>7883071
peach's sex dungeon

>>7883091
Why does it have to be a painting and not just a fake wall? SSL reappears in other titles if you want to argue for it being "real" or not

>>7883109
SSL?

Well, you see a shaft of brown bricks. And there are four spike-like structures surrounding the brown bricks. So I'm thinking Speculum. I'm thinking Peach. I'm thinking brown bricks.

>>7880342
kek

>>7883113
Shifting Sand Land

Home, least it was.

The paint lore is interesting but sort of vague
>Mario Paint
surprisingly, this game has zero impact
>Mario 64
bowser created worlds in the paintings somehow, or brought the paintings to life if they were already there.
>Luigi's Mansion
Mario is trapped in a painting, and so are the ghosts. souls can be pressed in or washed out with water?
>Mario Sunshine
Paint is the same as goop. the magic paintbrush can hide coins & whole buildings inside paint until it is cleaned. paint is also used to make portals to real locations. Did bowser use the paintbrush in 64 offscreen or did E Gadd take note of what Bowser did and invent it?
>Galaxy 2
Whomp's fortress appears so was either a portal painting, or bowser created something he knew about, or brought to life a painting of the planet that peach already had.
>Paper Mario Color Splash
A game I haven't played which does lots of things with paint, but it doesn't look connected to the paint lore from SM64.
>Odyssey
Another game I haven't played but it looks like paintings are all portals to real places because I've seen a peach's castle painting. I might be wrong though.
>Bowser's Fury
Yet another game I haven't played but Jr appears with the paintbrush iirc so it might have important details.

>>7883296
I think Nintendo just like paint.

>Kirby and the magic paintbrush canvas games
>Splatoon

>>7883109
>SSL reappears in other titles if you want to argue for it being "real" or not
It does? Where?

Are you thinking of Dry Dry Desert?

Also “real” isnt the right word to use here. The worlds are artificially created but that doesnt make them not real. The question is just if they’re their own pocket dimensions or part of Mario’s world. Most are explicitly stated to be a world inside a painting with the invisible walls explained as the painting’s edges.

They could be paintings of real places though, in which case there is a version of that area in Mario’s world which the painting is a copy of.

>>7883296
>Whomp's fortress appears so was either a portal painting, or bowser created something he knew about, or brought to life a painting of the planet that peach already had.
Gonna completely unironically speculate an explanation on this

Rosalina’s storybook shows the events of an alternate Mario and Peach and their daughter, these characters are obviously ‘further along’ than the versions we play as. It’s another world, another dimension, whatever you want to call it.

So from that, the observatory traveling through space isnt just different galaxies, but different ‘worlds’. Or rather, the game doesnt really differentiate between those two things.

Whose to say the world wasnt made via the painting and the power of the stars, and as a result it’s floating ‘out in the void somewhere’ which is a place the faceship can actually travel.

A lot of ‘space’ in the Mario Galaxy games is full of blue sky and clouds, some parts of deepspace have fucking rainbows and seagulls. It’s not space the way we think of it. It’s a way to access other worlds, which can mean a lot of different things. I know in some Jap media like DBZ you can reach things like the afterlife by going out far enough in space, I dont know how common that line of thinking is in Jap fantasy stories. It’s not just physical space between planets, though.

All that, or it’s just a fun little throwback with no thought behind it.

Or both. With Koizumi and Miyamoto both on the game, both is a possibility.

>>7868951
did he ever do drugs or was it mostly auras from migraines?

>>7884132
Shifting Sands is a level in the GC Mario Golf filled with pyramids and Kleptos akin to SSL
Dry Dry Desert might as well be part of the same location considering """canonically""" the Mushroom Kingdom has a massive desert in it

>>7884174
In galaxy 1, bowser ripped the castle out of the sky so I figured all the earth like planetoids (& things like the penguins who aren't part of bowser's army) were also pulled out from the mushroom kingdom, and he planned to take over the mushroom kingdom by transporting it to his own planet.

I guess it doesn't work in galaxy 2, but I carry on thinking there's something to it in the first one. Its like how the trails bananas in donkey kong country are possibly contextualized as dropped from the stolen horde that DK is following to find it, but in DKC2 & 3 there is no horde but there's still bananas. unless DK took his horde with him when he was kidnapped.

>>7884490
The kremlings clearly like bananas, they might just have bananas of their own. Or those could just be grown in absurd amounts in every region surrounding dk land. DK bananas are at least borderline magic so they can get away with that.

bing

>>7884245
>considering """canonically""" the Mushroom Kingdom has a massive desert in it
Evidence? Not doubting you, just curious.

>>7868568
>Mario's Castle & Land (super mario land 2)
>Mario's Rainbow Castle (Mario Party)
>Mario Land (Mario Party 2)
Mario wins Mario land in Mario party 2, which is a prequel to the Mario & Wario land series. In Mario Party 1 he already had a flying castle, so he's just adding to the collection. But in the Party games, both the land & castle are in the sky. What made them fall to earth?

>>7872235
Harumph!

>>7887356
The Lands are basically worlds of their own, this is represented by the clouds but they arent literally in the sky. Or rather, those sky islands are like their equivalent of a painting doorway.

>>7887356
How the fuck are you supposed to reach that theme park

>>7885438
autism

>>7868837
Shifting Sand Land is a real place within the castle. It's Peach's litterbox for her pet rabbit. Fuck this thread it's a fucking video game and the entrances and exits are game devices, even the castle itself is a storytelling device to give the player somewhere to go between the levs and make the game more enjoyable.
Of course the sewer/cave level was put in the sewer of the castle because it's easier to make a mental connection and so was the air bonus stage put above the castle. There's also no giant void under the castle where they built a slide.

>>7868837
that isn't wet dry world

>>7889672
>Of course the sewer/cave level was put in the sewer of the castle because it's easier to make a mental connection and so was the air bonus stage put above the castle.
Yeah but we're talking about those specifically because they both connect back to the castle without portals (maybe).

>>7868568
better question, where the hell is the aquarium supposed to be located
in another dimension?

>>7889692
Big Boo's Haunt, Mario is clearly seen entering and leaving the level through no portal. Still just a gameplay device.
On Hazy Maze Cave it's not connected to the castle, it's connected to the metal cap stage that's as distant to the castle as the wing cap and vanish cap stages.

>>7889997
>Big Boo's Haunt, Mario is clearly seen entering and leaving the level through no portal
What are you talking about? In that case the portal is the miniature mansion that that one Boo in the backyard drops when you beat him.

>>7868830
now THIS is autism

>>7890154
It looks like that miniature is the mansion and Mario gets small and enters it
Even if it's a portal, it's different than the others.
The game teaches you to fight boos before you are allowed to enter the level, that's why it's not a painting. Just another gameplay device.
The air cap teaches you to stop and look with C-up, and to look for secrets in the castle itself.
I don't think they were concerned with matching the levels with the castle other than superficially as a hub.
It's a very experimental game that broke a lot of new ground and had to teach players that had never played a 3D platformer before. I don't think they would allow cosmetic considerations to limit the gameplay possibilities. And I don't think they were concerned with where Peach's poo would end up.
Mario games have always had cave levels and pipe mazes, it's only natural that they would make one and try to position it in a location that made sense for the player to discover and remember.
The same is valid for cloud levels.
Maybe they wanted the design of the towers to really represent the castle towers high up in the air, then there are no towers when you are with Yoshi, both the towers being there and not being there make sense in their context.
It's a game.

>>7890251
>because it's a game
BTFO

>>7886147
>>7881096
I think the dots are meant to be mountainous regions but the bottom part is all desert easily

>>7889787
The levels arent IN other dimensions, they ARE other dimensions. They used the power of the stars to make worlds, and the invisible walls are the borders.

>>7881096
The map of the mushroom kingdom changes literally every game it appears.

>>7890650
what other Mario games had full maps of the kingdom?

>>7890687
smrpg
paper mario
mario and luigi pit and bis

>>7890748
Paper Jam
Origami King
I think Sticker Star
Odyssey

Superstar Saga doesnt take place in the mushroom kingdom but in a land next to it, meaning it’s part of a landmass and not a mushroom shaped island.

>>7869585
Is that a fairy?

>>7880346
Maybe the M stands for Mussolini

A magical place in the sky where Mario flies if Mario he if Mario if he real

>>7868568
Super Mario 64 is a Dream

>>7889560
Airship

I both love and hate that this thread is still going

>>7890767
Superstar Saga's ending shows them crossing the ocean to return so Beanbean Kingdom is likely an island

>>7891125
I bet its shaped like a bean.

>>7891125
But you very literally jump over the border between mushroom and beanbean kingdom. It’s a minigame.

So they’re at least somewhat connected by land.

>>7891154
the area you're talking about is filled with floating islands, hell the place where you do the border jump is a floating island with the only land connections being wooden bridges

>>7891165
Look at the top of this map. The purple star area where you border jump is a mountain range.

>>7891187
and here's the actual map of the area

Map

>>7891187
>>7891204
There appears to be a contradiction within the worldbuilding

Who ever could have thought this day would come

>>7891204
Where did you get the map from?

lol

nerds on 4chan will say some shit like "It's not a drug reference, it's a Jefferson Airplane reference" like wtf do you think Jefferson Airplane were singing about?

>>7868594
up

>>7889689
true. this is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibam_Hadramawt

>>7891373
Mario wiki

>>7891458
WTF are you talking about Lewis Caroll wrote Alice in Wonderland 100 years before Jefferson Airplane wrote songs associating it with drugs and the hippies congregated to watch the 1950's Disney movie while tripping.

>>7891458
Jefferson Airplane were singing about Alice in Wonderland. Mario's mushrooms and the SM64 white rabbit are both references to Alice in Wonderland. Cope.

>>7890650
>The map of the mushroom kingdom changes literally every game it appears.
When I was little I used to theorize about why that was. Like maybe one of the enchanted properties of the Mushroom World is that the landscape changes with every season.

>>7891680
Ha, I had pretty much the exact same idea. Same for why the castle would change from game to game. I had this whole autistic idea about ‘continuity shifting’ being some part of how their world just works.

>>7870000
Nice quads

>>7891665
Alice in Wonderland is a Jefferson Airplane reference. They took so many drugs they went back in time and told Lewis Carrol to write a book.

>Not retro, but perhaps those towers are floating in the sky. Or maybe it's the same place but a different art style.
The board considers Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox games retro now, read the sticky.

>>6775606
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

>>7881378
>Not retro, but perhaps those towers are floating in the sky. Or maybe it's the same place but a different art style.
The board considers Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox games retro now, read the sticky.

>>6775606
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

>>7868594
in the sky

HEY

Does anyone have an up to date Mario64 3DS CIA?

>>7880630
>>7881393
Why is it Mario's party if its Peach's birthday?

Is Mario real? What if he?

>>7868594
Probably just another building somewhere else.

>>7868568
autism