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>>7869927
No and I’ll even argue that GoldenEye’s variety of multiplayer modes bests anything that was on PC in 1997, including Quake. The only downside was no LAN capability.

>>7869927
I can't even think of a PS1 FPS. Rainbow Six maybe?

Isn't The World is Not Enough on ps1? I've never played it but it was designed as a goldeneye successor.

Medal of honour, quake 2, Delta force, alien resurrection, the world is not enough

>>7869927
For MP? No. For SP I'd rather play Alien Resurrection, Dark Forces, Medal of Honor
>>7869935
Lmao no. No one would have wanted to play quad screen 10fps GoldenEye over Quake. Even a shitty PC running quake at 10fps would have been better.
>>7869938
Different devs

>>7869942
It is, but IIRC it plays different to the N64 version of the game.

>>7869942
The N64 version is way better

>>7869961
it's a different game

>>7869958
Quake only had standard old deathmatch is my point. GoldenEye was a trend setter with its multitude of multiplayer settings and variables that nothing on PC had at the time.

>>7869958
>Alien Resurrection
Are you some masochist

>>7869938
disruptor. but it was just another doom clone, so dont think it would compete with innovative golden eye

>>7869970
Quake was a 1996 Ferrari. GoldenEye was a 1973 Ford Pinto

>>7869927
Medal of Honor and its sequel

>>7870004
Quake still only had plain old deathmatch whereas GoldenEye offered more options and variables. id makes good engines but they’ve never been particularly creative with their gameplay.

>>7869927
Medal of Honor had the locational damage and animations as well as the mixed action-espionage if you're looking for recs and not solely shitposting. If you like Goldeneye you'd like the MoH games on PSX, they're genuinely greats of the era.

There isn't even another N64 FPS that is remotely as good as GoldenEye, besides, obviously, Perfect Dark.

>>7869927
moh is the only ge clone in the system

>>7869927
Alien: triology.

>>7870140
Only notable for using what we now accept as a modern FPS control scheme on consoles. It’s not actually a good game.

>>7869927
No. The slowest frame rate was about 20fps. Nothing got remotely close to the 12fps GoldenEye delivered.

Ahem

>>7870182
It was 100% a better time when people didn’t constantly talk about fps and resolution differences in games.

>>7870109
The World Is not Enough
Turok
Quake 2
Doom 64

>>7870152
That was Alien Resurrection
A GameSpot reviewer infamously called that control scheme terrifying

>>7870205
Ah, my bad.

>>7870182
imagine having to resort to such a faggy argument

>>7869974
It plays like a modern console FPS (well "modern" as in Halo 2001). Masochism is fumbling with any other 5th gen console FPS

>>7870387
It's also unfairly dificult and you are always low on ammo and die in few hits

>>7869970
Kinda, but people would just plain make their own game modes, like Team Fortress.

>>7869938
Are you serious ? Rainbow 6 is ass. The ai is too op and robotic.

In terms of shooting in the first person there's plenty of space shooters and Descent-clones on the PS1 for some reason but not a whole lot in terms of shooters where you walk around as a dude

Nothing comes to mind— the PS1 definitely didn’t have any FPS games worth talking about, and certainly none with multiplayer as popular as Goldeneye. It’s odd that nobody really tried this even with the release of the DualShock.

>>7869927
Yes.
Powerslave is amazing, it combines old-school Doom-style shooting with Metroid-like progression and puzzles.

While not on par with Goldeneye, the Playstation version of Quake II had a decent split-screen deathmatch.

>>7870193
>>7870306

>>7870784
Not helping your case.

>>7870681
The Playstation version of this game sucks.

>>7869927
It was the best.

Maybe it's just rose-tinted glasses but the times I had playing GoldenEye with my friends are unforgettable and very nostalgic.

>>7869935
>GoldenEye’s variety of multiplayer modes bests anything that was on PC in 1997, including Quake.
Stock sure, but not with mods.

>>7870205
You can get *almost* normal fps controls on GoldenEye iirc. There was something slightly off about it but I'd have to plug it in again to find out, and my system setup is all in disarray atm...

>>7870856
I remember the matches with prox/remote mines providing many good comedy moments with friends. The fact that we could see each other's screen made it more amusing, because it would create impasses when someone knew their only door out of a room was covered in mines.

>>7869927
I preferred Doom.

>>7869935
>I’ll even argue that GoldenEye’s variety of multiplayer modes bests anything that was on PC in 1997, including Quake
Argue based on what?

>>7869970
>that nothing on PC had at the time
citation needed

>>7870886
>>7870892
I mean stuff like paintball, golden gun, being able to do rocket launcher only matches, etc. PC multiplayer at that time was very much just standard deathmatch with little variation.

>>7870905
And yes I’m aware fan made mods eventually remedied this but GoldenEye came with a pretty wide variety of cool multiplayer settings and modes right out of the box.

>>7870905
Not to mention that in Goldeneye there was a slow pace and no jumping, which lent a sense of realism to the proceedings. Quake was all about speeding and bouncing around like an autist in his rubber room.

>>7870892
Give me an example of a PC multiplayer game from August 1997 that offered more than just standard deathmatch out of the box. I’ll wait. You PCfags always get so offended when people dare claim that a console game did something first.

>>7870930
Rise of the Triad had CTF alongside a couple other multiplayer modes in 1995

>>7870930
PC games had campaign co-op. So there's that.

>>7870785

>>7869927
It was the best shooter until halo(pc games don't count suck it). I can't stand the controls anymore. But tons of good memories

>>7871332
that's even worse, retard

>>7870201
>The World Is not Enough
>Turok
>Quake 2
>Doom 64

Rainbow Six (N64)
Duke Nukem 64 (A bit different, but giood)

>>7869927
Final Doom

Yeah I like Rainbow Six.

>>7870930
Actually the better question what was the majority of multiplayer like from January of 1995 when they started development on Goldeneye.

>>7869935
he didn't play DN3D in multiplayer

>>7873008
For FPS? Doom II

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>>7869951
>>7869958
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>>7870140
>>7870190
>>7870681
>>7872998
pathetic showing

>>7869927
Ps1 is the definition of retarded early 3D. It couldn't handle polys in a good way, that's why it had so much sprite-based rpgs for people with no friends.

>great atmosphere
>10/10 soundtrack
>not actually designed for toddlers to play

>>7873421
There are more 3D games on PS1 than N64s entire library you retard. PS1 library is 4x bigger than the N64

>>7869927
there's no PS1 FPS as good as Goldeneye or ESPECIALLY Perfect Dark
and there's no PS1 3D game period that's half as good as Ocarina, it took everyone until the next console gen to start making 3D games on that level.

>>7873395
It's playstation... these threads are essentially bullying and taunting mixed with a victory lap.

Growing up I only knew a few kids with playstation. The kids from good families never owned one.

>>7869927
Medal of honor is probably the best fps on PS1 and it's not on the same level of goldeneye.

>>7874115
Segregating yourself into a particular platform, not experiencing anything else and then calling everything else entirely inferior is a true signal of immaturity and delusional behavior. This is why you brought up the "growing up" flashback because you still think like the kid you were.
No wonder why nintendo fans always come up with threads like this. Self affirmation is a must to preserve the nostalgia bubble, it seems.

Final Doom
Alien: Trilogy
Quake 2
Medal of Honor

All good shit imo, but none of them have the same vibe as Goldeneye if that's what you're looking for.

I find Medal of Honor delivers a better single player than Goldeneye, but Goldeneye is definitely king in multiplayer.

It's kind of strange that the Goldeneye/Perfect Dark/Timesplitters formula never caught on despite all of those games being, well, fucking great.
For whatever reason, nobody else ever really tried to expand on, or even copy Rare/Free Radical's formula. It's kind of weird.

>>7870930
Doom

>>7874184
i dont care at all

>>7874184
Lmao seething Sony roach

>>7869927
>fps
>for consoles
Love how that shows that nintendo doesn't understand jackshit about the market they're into

>>7869935
Team Fortress, Threewave CTF, Headhunter, and Requiem own games today.

>>7871531
>PC FPS don't count
Braindead take.

>>7870905
>I mean stuff like paintball
Largely cosmetic.

>golden gun
Could be done easily with Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, or Quake, just make a small weapon mod.

>being able to do rocket launcher only matches, etc.
Doesn't even need modifying any code, you could just make a level with nothing but rocket launchers in it. Then you had Rise Of The Triad, which has a dozen different kinds of rocket launchers, and supported online deathmatch, team deathmatch, and capture the flag, with up to 11 players.

You also had the Team Fortress mod for Quake, which combined capture the flag with differing player roles and classes.

>PC multiplayer at that time was very much just standard deathmatch with little variation.
How much variation did Goldeneye actually add with its multiplayer? It had regular deathmatch, team deathmatch, no actual capture the flag game in any traditional sense, you had Living Daylights which aside from being one of the best 007 movies was a mode where you picked up a flag and held it long enough to win, and had to survive against everyone else without being able to defend yourself.

You could select weapon sets and health levels, which was a nice enough addition, but nothing revolutionary, particularly given that quite a lot of Goldeneye's guns are functionally very similar to each other. It's a great game, and had good console multiplayer, but I don't see why it was so very revolutionary on the point of multiplayer.

>>7869927
Goldeneye literally invented headshots. /thread

alien resurrection
delta force
medal of honor
medal of honor underground
quake 2
crime crackers 2

>>7874115
When I was growing up only poorfags and niggers had 1 console homes. Feels good to be spoiled desu

GoldenEye was lame

>>7869927
Alien Resurrection, Alien Trilogy, PlayStation Doom and Delta Force Urban Warfare are all way better than the mediocre shit pancake that is GoldenEye. I'm sorry but GoldenEye is overrated as fuck.

>>7874138
Medal of Honor wasn't even that great. Alien Resurrection is far better. And GoldenEye is overrated.