/vr/ - Retro Games

Are there any mods that will make the game hard from the start to the beginning?

>>7847851
Just play 1.0 hardcore

There's an anon here who's played basically every mod. Hopefully he could answer you.

What kind of difficulty are you after?
1.15 lowers your resistances, gives less mana, makes bosses (both act and regular boss packs) more damaging, makes dying take more xp, gives a lot of bosses more abilities or makes them faster/more damaging/more tanky. But it also buffs a lot of things too.

You could install basemod and put it on like players 20 or something.

The muttmod has more difficult monsters than vanilla.

>>7847880
meant for >>7847851

>>7847880
I plan to play on HC. So I don't want something stupid where you'll just randomly explode with little you could have done about it.

I want something that will make me think tactically. Be thoughtful about gearing and gearing and skill selection.

>>7847887
Diablo 1. Could even try the hell 2 mod.

>>7847887
Thats trying to force d2 to be something it's not. D1 is closer.

>>7847887
Try out Berserker, it's the only mod I can think of that gets even close to your ideals. I can't remember how much of this it has, but for a difficulty mod to be truly tactical, it would need
>prevention of town portaling if you've been hit in the past ~30 seconds
>nerfed utility skills, so teleport/knockback/curses/stun/barriers/minions can't outright invalidate the challenge
>limited resources: no wells, no regeneration, no shrines
>no grinding: drops & experience are finite, so every time you restart the game you are wasting resources and potentially bricking yourself
>aggressive and clever AI with creative monster skills
>optional challenges that pose extreme danger in exchange for more resources
It'd be fun to see a mod like that fully fleshed out.

>>7847893
D1 is based

The council has been generous.

booba[/ spoiler]

Muttmod v2a is up. Contains bug fixes.
>level 1 active skills will not disappear if you restart the game
>gold shouldn't evaporate from the stash/inventory since the limit is ~30m at all levels
>starting charms are reworked in a few ways to reduce bugginess
You'll need to re-create all three of the starting charms for some of these changes to apply. Next version I'll add the suggested unique changes.

I don't get the whole scroll of existence thing, do I have to do it in order to play the mod and use normal skills etc?

>>7849703
Cube the scroll, put the in your charm invetory and put your first skill point into adapt form. Then just forget about them.

>>7849551
Thanks anon!

>>7849717
I did that, now I die in one hit

>>7849729
Are they in the charm inventory? i.e. the bottom 5 rows? There is a gold line border in the inventory if you look.

>>7849734
Mine doesn't look like that so I guess something is fucked, I just downloaded muttmod and ran it

>>7849737
Yes it does. I told you to look. Did you not?

>>7849745
I thought you meant something like a thick golden divider between the bottom five rows and the rest, IIRC I've seen something like that in other screenshots. That difference is gold/gray is so barely visible that I would never have seen it if you didn't point it out, I can still just barely make it out. Even then, it's in one of the charm slots and it still bricks the combat so I dunno what's wrong.

>>7849751
>it's
Do you not have all 3?

>>7849754
>>7849751
Like these I mean.

>>7849754
Nah, transmuting the scroll only gave me the soulstone, I didn't know there were any other.

>>7849757
Nah, this is what my inventory looks like, it's a fresh character, I've only done the Den of Evil and gotten the first waypoint.

>>7849761
Works for me. Are you sure you're not just missing them in your cube?

>>7849765
They were at the top, I completely missed them because of the tiny resolution, thanks a lot for all the help anon.

>>7849774
>>7849751
>two vision based problems in a few minutes
I had no issue seeing them anon, you might need to get your eyes checked.

You can also stretch the game to fit the screen with win key+up.

>>7847743
Never played Diablo, never played any other H&S other than Dungeon Siege (and disliked it). Did I miss something, or if DS didn't appeal to me, then Diablo won't anyway?

>>7849801
Diablo is a lot more in depth when it comes to items and player choice/customisation. Depends what part of dungeon siege you disliked. They're quite different.

>>7849808
The part where it was endless combat and nothing else.
I also realised I've played Ancient Evil and that one was simply boring, while providing the most dull dungeon crawl experience I ever had.

>>7849829
>endless combat and nothing else.
That's basically diablo, yeah. In terms of actually doing things with the character. There's a lot of time spent creating your build i.e. items/skills/stats, but yeah you might not like this either.

Just torrent it and see what you think,

>>7848548
Nice. What are you doing with it?

Fetish edition when?

Ah god damnit now I have to make a paladin.

>>7849779
Come down off your fucking high horse. It's shitty UI design.

>>7851097
okay

Muttmod has the best cold plains I've ever seen. I've hit level 8 on p1 just from the sheer amount of boss/champ packs within maybe 7 screens of eachother. Absolutely nuts.

>>7851290
>close to level 10
>unique ring
>unique staff
>unique barb helm
>just entered the stony field

So this is the power of a single Cold Plains full clear. Impressive.

How's your grail going, anon?

Had a weird occurrence, muttmod anon. Upon entering act 5 normal, I was immediately given the nihlathak quest.

>>7852107
save and exit fixed it.

>>7847743
>booba
do redditors actually still use this term on 4chan?

>>7851290
I accidentally left that at 99, which was for testing out monumods. I guess I'll keep it like that, or maybe I could revert the Cold Plains to normal unique density, but increase the Cave, Mausoleum and Crypt unique density to stupidly high values.

>>7852107
That's probably from Basemod's permanent Anya portal fix. If so, I won't be able to do anything about it.

>>7853347
>I guess I'll keep it like that, or maybe I could revert the Cold Plains to normal unique density, but increase the Cave, Mausoleum and Crypt unique density to stupidly high values.
Either sound good, I'd suggest the latter because it gives you a reason to go out of your way to visit the places. Maybe do the stony tomb, arachnid lair, icy cellar and the hell portals in act 5 as well.

>>7853392
He should do that to all the side dungeons, I think. This would give players a good reason to run them too instead of relying on pits and ancient temple.

I got a Schaeffer's Hammer and a perfect Jalal's Mane. Good haul.

bnet servers down for ladder reset today, lads. get hype.

Is there a way to change the player character's sprite/soundset yet?

>>7854010
That's been possible for ~15ish years, no one's done it because it requires extreme levels of autism.

D2 Remastered releases 23/24 September. Multiplayer beta later this month.

>>7854185
No one gives a shit
Blizzard already fucked all of it including modding.

Pray that Open Diablo2 is done since they can't take down a rebuild.

>>7854265
>has objectively more modding potential than the OG
>this is somehow fucked

>>7854276
>he doesnt know

>>7854283
Only thing I've heard is that they're moving more of the game into easier to edit files. Explain.

>>7854291
Thanks to people here and at fucking reddit cracking the game to work without the retarded battle net login Blizzard decided to lock the game's modding capabilities due to "security concerns" when in fact they hate Modding because the community does better shit than them.

the game will ship with none of what they said, and it its literally Refunded 2.0.

>>7854304
Where was this said? And how do you know it's not just for the beta/alpha?

>>7854310
Check the Wowhead post about the incident, also blizzard is censoring all of it at the forums and reddit.

>>7854317
Is this what you're crying about?
>“There have been mods in the past that injected code straight into the game, and those are the kind of things that we cannot support”

Well then it comes down to whether or not what they're moving into the easier to access files outweighs whatever you lose there and the fact you're assuming people won't be able to get around that anyway (they will).

So we have no way of knowing yet and you're just crying about it. Got it.

>>7854329
You lose so many tools if you go to D2R. No basemod, no dreammaker, no D2mods plugin, no PlugY, no easily accessible code edits. If you plan on hardcoding D2R, you'll have to work on a single cracked version since the dlls get scrambled every update, which means you'll have to convince your players to also pirate a specific version, which creates a massive barrier to entry.

You gain nothing and lose everything. Private realms are so easily supported for D2 because Blizzard fucked up and included the client with one of the versions. It's unlikely that they'd intentionally allow private realms, that's just not something that developers do in this day and age. The only conceivable benefits of D2R are expanded txt file limits, but those are irrelevant to both noobie and seasoned modders: noobies never get close to the limit, and the pros can hardcode those limits away.

Also, based on what we've been able to scrape from the txt files, they've hardly done anything. They opened up a few extra columns (which PlugY can already do) and give a little bit of control over some niche behaviors like charge-ups. Overall, I don't see D2R modding going anywhere.

>magical anime girl acquired

>>7854879
did you hire Kyoko?

>>7854906
I usually do because that's my favourite name of the lot, but I picked someone different this time.

>>7854475
Which retarded fanbois who never saw technical shit thinks its fine, literally the same brainwashed mentality as WoW fanboys.

Warcraft 3 Modding Community was murdered and idiots praised it.

>>7854475
>>7854475
That was just Alpha, though. They probably haven't got around expanding modding at that time. Now, if it remains the same way during beta, then that may be concerning.

>>7850585
Next one.

Bump

>>7854276
d2r is total dogshit all they had to do was remaster the sprites and they failed there's nothing that can be done to save it now

>>7859183
I'm just hoping for some modders to take the remaster and use it to make better stuff for the OG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttPBtsZ5fc

It's up.

>>7859183
You have genuine autism.

>>7859367
act 3 looks like it's had the green sucked out of it.

>>7859382
Not enough red in worldstone, either.

>>7859343
CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT
Couldn't see shit. It looks cool tho.

>>7859343
Honestly, it at least looks fucking great. Fingers crossed for fixed mechanics and random bugs.

Refunded looked like this you know

>>7859724
Different company producing it. Next cope?

>Blizzard PR is here
>its alredy shilling it
And the crash remaster was garbage

>>7859732
It was? I heard it was good.

They actually changed the shitty aqua blue back to the older look.

Hell of a drop for mid nightmare.

>>7859358
you genuinely are a shit gobbler

>>7859367
>>7859379
>>7859381
>>7859382
>>7859386
>>7859392
>>7859401
>>7859406
>>7859410
>>7861073
what game is this? looks absolutely nothing like diablo 2.

>>7861181
>absolutely nothing
Don't be petulantly hyperbolic. >>7859410 this one could be straight out of the original game.

Gives you the transparent Fade look just when equipped. Really cool.

>>7859382
The new blue lightning looks terrible compared to the original stylized and beefy white lightning. Most of the other effects look good though.

>>7859732
That was a remake, the same with the Spyro trilogy.

Found one! Looking forward to seeing the skill work eventually.

Flashy.

>>7861280
These kind of items really make me want to put together some sort of 'cast on X' build eventually. They're just so visually appealing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7tVxOAxGz4

>>7859382
>>7861203
Webm for a direct comparison. New lightning is butchered.

>>7861320
Yeah it's very weak in comparison. I'm also not sure if I like the change from white to blue, either.

Any advice for finishing hell difficulty with a trapazin?

>>7861339
Skip things you can't kill. Level some more in nightmare. What is it you're having trouble with?

>>7861339
I found that the best way to clear Hell is to just try to run past as many encounters as possible.

>>7861339
Pure traps are shit without tons of gear. Death Sentry kicker with an amp wand if you absolutely need to break a phys immune and a lifetap wand for bosses is very easy.

>>7861342
I was trying to beat the game on p/8 but it looks like that's unlikely

>>7861351
What if I want to kill every monster?

>>7861352
So basically it's gonna be a struggle as a pure trapazin with basic gear?

>>7861360
>trying to beat the game on p/8
Are you doing this for the challenge or because you think it's better? P8 is only for autists who are bored with the regular game and end game farming when you have teammates or great gear.

>>7861360
>So basically it's gonna be a struggle as a pure trapazin with basic gear?
P8 is a struggle with nearly everything.

>>7861363
I just want to do it, that's all. You could say it's for the challenge.

>>7861364
Is there no build that can do it without godly gear?

>>7861365
It's going to take a very long time with a trapsin. You'll encounter some enemies you probably won't even be able to kill because they are either immune or regenerate too fast. You can for sure still beat the game, but you'll just have to skip a bit.

>>7861367
Nearly anything CAN do it, it's just slow. Necros with summons and corpse explosion, amazons and barbs with physical/magic damage and dual element sorcs are probably the simplest or fastest to do it with.

>>7861367
Quite obviously, most skills and items are balanced for a P1 game. You will not be able to effectively proceed through the game on P8, especially if you don't know what you are doing. Even with top tier gear P8 is much more often than not not the settings you want to play the game on.

>>7861367
Hammerdin would probably be the path of least resistance with shit gear and a somewhat decent kill speed, just make sure to shop a teleport staff before nm faggot lair.

>>7861185
didn't expect to see the blind retarded monkey population to be well represented here of all places

>>7862203
Not everything is shit, anon. I understand that you feel threatened by the game but there's no need to be so contrarian.

The
>it looks like SHIT
complaint would be much more potent if you couldn't switch to the original graphics on the go. I mean, if you at least complained about the obviously shitty things like the area loading thing or something.

>>7862387
You're post would be much more potent if the graphics weren't the only selling point of D2R.

>>7862432
And yet I see you and other people like you complain only about the single selling point of the game. Weird.
Also you are wrong. I, personally, couldn't give less of a shit about improved graphics. I'm just a little bit excited about the slight possibility of the online scene revival, at least for a short time. Bonus points if they somehow completely weed out botting in a way that will not be fucking detrimental to the actual player base.

>>7862601
>it's weird to complain that the only perceived selling point (obviously being from my perspective) of a game is bad
How the hell is that weird? Do you believe we should buy it on name alone and ignore features altogether?

>online scene
d2jsp will have bots up and running immediately, so enjoy your dumpstered economy. Admittedly, it might be relatively fun (still worse than custom realms, which likely won't exist for D2R) for a season or two, before everyone reverts to immediate Hell Baal rushing.

>>7862676
>d2jsp will have bots up and running immediately
That is very much possible but you can't know that with certainty. I don't know anything about programming bots and hacks but it probably needs some advanced game file tinkering. I'm just blindly hoping that D2R will have much better protection than OG. I am even willing to suffer the loss of PlugY mod if they manage to get rid of bots and maphacks online.
>still worse than custom realms, which likely won't exist for D2R
Never played on one, never will. Doesn't matter to me.
>before everyone reverts to immediate Hell Baal rushing
People will probably start hell Baal rushing on the very first day. Again, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is getting rid of bots and hacking and thereby fixing the economy. This could also translate into longer ladder seasons. Shit could be pretty great, fingers are crossed.

>>7861073
Oh Nice, they also changed blizzard.
While preordering would be dumb as fuck I do have really high hopes for this.

>>7861367
A necro with max corpse explosion and summons would be a good one.

>>7859412
Looks a little too ornate for me.

>just started hell
>need Ko rune
>do over 200 countess runs
>nothing higher than an Io rune
>click random rock by accident
>get Ko rune

God I wish I was recording. Valkyrie just 2 hit killed players 3 nightmare mephisto. Must have rolled with some absolutely nuts gear. I didn't even get a single attack off myself.

>>7862961
CE doesn't really do shit on p8 because the percent damage is based off of p1.

>>7859387
>>7859502
had alpha access the first week they rolled it out.
it's absolutely wonderful.

>>7863830
for comparison, here's when you shift to old graphics

What is going on with these Valks? P3 nightmare and it's near shotting shenk with nothing but the Holy Fire aura tick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvP3h36SHs

Is the aura broken or is this just specifically lucky muttmod gear? Holy Fire ticks never do this much. Can they spawn with unique gear or something?

>>7862278
I'm not being contrarian it's the most vile dogshit ever created. Seeing the types of shit normies consume is terrifying. I feel sorry for you all. You're total shit gobblers. I have no desire to do anything but spend my free time making fun of your abhorrent taste in everything you do.

>>7864259
Yes you are. Look at the fucking picture I pointed out. It's almost identical to the original and there is nothing wrong with it. I get you have issues, but come the fuck on.

>>7859401
>>7859410
Actually impressed by these two they look very close to the source material

>>7864265
>It's almost identical
It looks not even remotely close to Diablo 2. For one Diablo 2 is a sprite based game. They remade all the visuals in 3d. That alone destroys the original game aesthetics. Secondly the colors in nearly every scene are wrong. The entire game was designed around a color theme for each area. You're such a shit gobbling moron there's no point in even having this discussion. You're going to lap that shit up no matter what.

>>7864296
>sprite
Oh you're one of those retards who wouldn't be happy unless they literally released the exact same game again with zero changes.

>>7864296
>The entire game was designed around a color theme for each area
Entire game, eh.That being said, yes, each act clearly has its own theme but it doesn't mean that said themes can't be upheld in this new reiteration. We have not even seen act III onwards in motion yet. Yes, the new game does look different. Someone might even not like it. Is it important? No because you can fucking switch to old graphics whenever you want. Really, start fucking complaining about things that matter.

Does anyone else wish we could get another game as pure & based as original Diablo 1?
>walking only
>gets pretty tough
>low level cap of 50
>alot of the gear has negative attributes
So cool. I play The Hell 2 mod but there's alot of shit in it that holds it back
>29 classes but each one must be played this specific way
>a cool outdoor level but it only has zombies, slow boring grind
>summoners have a boring cooldown on spells making them play so passive. Why can't they just be weaker casters/fighters?
>vice system is cool but kind of buggy
I will say though the perks are a nice addition, and so are the forced Iron man modes. Why can't someone make an ARPG with the slow, deliberate pace & difficulty of original Diablo?
Modern ARPG games are all retarded slaughters where you can one shot the whole screen, it's just a slot machine for gear.
Any D2 mods that can bring me close to this experience?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPdjkLRZxpw
wtf

>>7864745
I recommend playing geneforge, great story and gameplay. Its a bit clunky and gets hard as balls near the end, but i think youd really enjoy it

v2b is up
>removed invalid aura references
>Cold Plains has 4x uniques instead of 33x, Level 2 caves and Mausoleum/Crypt have 10x
>charge-ups give their +AR% as a bonus to their finishing move, instead of using a static value
>modified some uniques
>absorbed the Charm Inventory graphics from PoD
>color-coded and made it more clear as to what you need to do with the starting items
Hopefully by the next version I'll have finalized the superstat system, it's having issues since it won't update when reverting to a value of 0.

>>7863214
>>7864127
Thanks, that should be fixed now in v2b.

>>7864308
If they can't even do the first thing right then I have zero hope for whatever changes they would make.
>>7864372
>Really, start fucking complaining about things that matter.
Just like I said you're a total shit gobbler and are prepared to lap up whatever they feed you. Not only are the colors which are a central theme in the game's original design element completely ruined but the game's new models all look anywhere from whatever to retarded. Most of the skins, while more detailed, are awful looking and don't maintain the look of the original. The new animations look stupid and nothing like D2. The new UI is awful and loses the original book-like aesthetic of the original.
>you can fucking switch to old graphics whenever you want
Oh can I now? You mean I can install some 10's of GB's of extra game data, install and launch blizzard launcher before playing single player offline Diablo 2, have to load all of the terrible looking new assets every time that I will never use that I can quickly swap them off, again another feature I have no use for, I can be forced to load all these new assets between every level change and launch, all when the old one not only works perfectly fine but doesn't require all the extra overhead of these fucking terrible new shit you're forced to load? All while losing support for decades worth of community created mods because they removed the method 99% of mods were created by way of dll injection and have been very careful to not state that there will be anything like real mod support because if there were they wouldn't STFU up about it and would be telling you in every other update how amazing the new mod support would be which they haven't because it's going to be extremely limited compared to the old game.

>>7864982
Cheers!

>>7865265
>acuses people of bad taste
>post fucking crossed
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

>>7865265
Ah, you are the FEEL guy. I should have noticed sooner. Also you are not losing access to anything because if you want to play offline with mods, you can keep playing the original D2. It's the same fucking game.

It's kinda fascinating that you don't find anything retarded or at least wrong about the points you are trying to make here. Really fascinating.

>>7847743
>tfw no sorc gf to teleport you to work, to love & support you by enchanting your weapons with fire dmg, or grab you a beer with 1 point in telekinesis.
>ywn feel the warmth of her beside you rapidly regenerating your mana
>ywn defeat the prime evils at players 2 difficulty with her
>ywn pose for photos with her in forced isometric perspective to maintain the pixel perfect aesthetic
>ywn get the perfect gift from her every time because she has over 600% MF
FUCK what's the fucking point of this horrible 3d life

down to the last 2 items on my grail

tyrael's might and wisp projector

16 goddamn months of this grind, and I've loved every minute

>>7864850
llama fast

>>7864296
>They remade all the visuals in 3d
All the sprites were designed in 3D. the reason they didn't just use those models to create a high res version of the game is because those assets are gone but even if they did give you that, you'd still complain because

>the original D2 had visible pixels

or something along those lines

>>7865595
neat

>>7865595
Nice! Gonna laugh if you end up getting Tyraels first.

>>7865595
Grats!
MF?
Gear?
I'm doing a grail too with a sorc. Have you seen a Zod?

Any recommedations on reading material for diablo 2 lore? Diablo 1 as well

>>7867241
757 mf, pitzerker

dual wizspikes on switch for tp-ing

grief, 6 isted pb, enigma, cham'd shako, war travs, goldwrap, nagels, chance guards, and a sick 2/7 crafted ammy with 18 all res and 28 mf

inventory full of assorted mf charms, perfect gheeds, torch, anni

>>7867740
>>7867241
oh and I've found 3 zods lol

>>7867740
>>7867742
Nice.

>>7865530
>you are not losing access to anything because if you want to play offline with mods, you can keep playing the original D2
Are you literally retarded? No shit I can still play the original and that's precisely what I'm going to do but we're talking about what you can't do in the new version. Learn to read you shit gobbling retard.
>>7866232
>the reason they didn't just use those models to create a high res version of the game is because those assets are gone
I'd rather have seen them try to create new high resolution sprites rather than try to create new 3d models we got instead. At some point you have to consider that sprites are central to the aesthetics of Diablo games since no game in the genre has come even remotely close to reproducing the aesthetics of the first two games. And on that note if they are going to lead anyone to believe the new graphics are "le painstaking faithful recreation" that they portend to be then you're basically saying it doesn't matter that they lost the old assets because clearly it does.

>>7868337
>>7865265
>>7864296
>>7864259
>>7862203
>total shit gobblers
>shit gobbling moron
>literally retarded
>shit gobbling retard
>shit gobbler
>blind retarded monkey

You need more material, it's getting boring. Thanks for keeping my thread bumped, though. It's nice to not have to check in every 7 hours or so because I know you and your absolute seethe posts will keep the thread alive.

I bet you're the guy who was crying about racks.

>>7868337
I'm done, man, I don't know what else to tell you. This thread should be full of 30 years old fucks who should act their age but there is also you, acting like a little kid who has his favorite toy car, mad about his brother getting the same toy car, just in different colors. Like holy shit, grow the fuck up.

>>7868337
>since no game in the genre has come even remotely close to reproducing the aesthetics of the first two games
D1 and 2 have completely different aesthetics from one another.
>you're basically saying it doesn't matter that they lost the old assets
Yes. Do you really think this shit looks better than the remaster? https://twitter.com/pshenk/status/1385347851568369665

>>7847743
sorceress is so pretty.

Does - target defence apply to bosses? What about ignore target defence. I've read people saying yes and no to both.

>>7869083
ITD definitely doesn't.

Not this shit again..

>>7869229
>1419x1035

>>7869247
I even lost a unique that just dropped

Found a cool ring, tho.

Well, guess I'm respeccing.

>wake up
>do a little trav run to start the morning off
>this drops
thank you rngesus

>>7869765
wew, now that's rare. Best I've ever found was a 39/15.

>>7847743
was there ever a better nude mod than that ancient assassin one?

>>7869765
PRAISE BE TO JESUS FOR HIS PROVISION OF THE PERFECT JEWEL

>>7869083
-def does, ITD doesn't. Keep in mind that bosses have 200% def, so you need twice as much -def as listed to reach the same functionality.

>>7870390
>>7869204
Thanks!

Intredasting.

>>7870464
>+druid
>+paladin only
What did he mean by this???

>>7870483
Maybe has some incredibly obscure use in a wearbear/wolf paladin. Probably not tho.

Hey muttmod anon, I gambled some funky ring. Doesn't seem to do anything.

>>7870534
...also gambled a fucking Ravenfrost, which is awesome. Haven't even beat Hell yet.

>>7870534
After testing a little, seems to increase max res by 3.

>just realized that "Damage +" is multiplied by on-weapon Enhanced Damage, behaving like base weapon damage
>Grief: 400*1.15= Damage +460
>Redeemer: 120*4= Damage +480
I guess it doesn't really matter though, Grief is still much better.

uhhh

>>7867318
The manuals and the NPC scripts.

>>7868671
I'm not bumping this thread cupcake.
>>7868761
>D1 and 2 have completely different aesthetics from one another.
I never said they were the same. But they are both distinctly different and instantly recognizable from their usage of sprites and the same lead artist who created the Diablo character.
>Do you really think this shit looks better than the remaster
No not at all. I think the sprites the 3d renders were created from do. You're a complete buffoon to compare the 3d renders. The aesthetics of Diablo 2 aren't the 3d renders minus the sprites. That's not what you see when you play.

>>7871347
>getting people to reply isn't bumping the thread

>>7871347
Why are you even here?

I always drop Diablo II before beating it as a paladin or necromancer but I feel like pushing and finishing it this time. What class should I play?

>>7871603
Javelin Amazon.

>>7871606
Why javelins over bows?

>>7871617
Because bows are awful despite being my favourite way to play and the javazon is overpowered. You said you had trouble sticking with the game, so I gave you the easiest brainlet build that should get you through it quickly.

>>7871628
I had trouble sticking because I got bored, not because it was hard.

>>7871603
what kind of playstyle do you want? many clicking and positioning? breeze through? laid back? real hard?

>>7871634
Yes and if you get through it faster you won't have time to get bored.

>>7871642
I'll just respec between the two as I get gear for it. I like playing a Rogue in D1 the most anyways.

>>7872014
Just play bowzon, dude, you don't have to convince us. Do what you want.

Does anyone actually like the druid? Everytime I try a playthrough with one I find it boring as shit. Any tips or builds to try out?

>>7872268
Windy druid

Though prepare for your eardrums to be raped by WOOOOOOOSH

>>7864982
thanks anon

I keep dropping this damn thing and every single fucking time I think it's a Hydra Bow and then get unbelievably disappointed.

>>7873875
Wait what? Why does this even exist? It's barely different.

>>7867740
bit overstacked on MF - you'd be better off swapping one of the spikes for a hoto, and the belt for arach, then you hit 110% fcr off of weapons+belt, and no need for fcr amu, and you get +3 to find item over dual spikes, which is another % to get a bonus drop, and over multiple runs it serves better than 30 MF from goldwrap.

>>7872268
i hated playing druid so much

Just beat Baal last night on normal with a bonemancer, my first hardcore character. Any tips on beating nightmare without getting raped?

>>7875547
Nightmare is easy. Just keep doing what you have been doing.

Hell is where the game actually gets difficult.

>make grief
>hell is now easier than normal or nightmare was

Which bitch should I playthrough as?

Assassin Amazon or Sorc?

>>7874041
not if I'm just hunting for TM

>>7876405
Amazon.

>>7875547
Max block and resistance.

>>7872268
fury druid with 100% CB
maul druid

I beat hell with every character

>>7854913
cute hireling

>>7877650
Nice. I only have Druid and Baba left and I'm just a bit lazy to do it.

>>7877943
thanks. barb was fun, druid was a pain

>>7877951
I've been watching Llama's videos but only the Normal run and I think it was easier for Druid to breeze through than the Baba but then maybe in Hell that changes.

>>7877650
I am in awe of your creative naming ability

Where does Tchernobog stand between Diablo 1 and 2? I want to play it co-operatively with a friend for the quests but was hoping it was more like D1 than 2 in terms of how it played and RPG systems.

>>7851097
I mean... What was stopping them from just making the line between the two thicker? Even by 2-3 pixels?

>>7864259
Ahhh. Pure, unfiltered autism. Stings the nostrils.

>>7862783
The weird thing is - looking at this screenshot in particular - that this is what my brain told me D2 looked like, as a teen. Like... I look at it now, and I go... "Aww. Man. That takes me back.", but then I see this shot and immediately feel like I just loaded into Act 2 for the first time, again.

>>7879706
Did you get to play the alpha? The screenshots and trailer videos are one thing, but it feels great on a whole different level to actually play.

Haven't played D2 in 17 years. What are some suggestions you guys have for playing again, fresh? I remember nothing, except my stash and UI were a lot less roomy than what you guys are posting.

I'm not looking for "Nightmare ultra buttrape" mode on my first time back. Just a casual stroll with some neat new stuff. I remember some stuff being locked behind battle.net, is that something that can be remedied?

>>7879713
I did not. I'm holding off till pre-ordering till it's a bit closer, and I missed the news about any upcoming sign-ups.

>>7879719
PlugY mod. Gives infinite stash and battlenet stuff in singleplayer. It's quite literally what you're asking for. Most use it.

http://plugy.free.fr

>>7879725
August will have the open multiplayer beta, but then the actual game is out not even a month later, so you might as well just wait.

>>7879736
Holy shit, perfect. That's pretty much exactly what I wanted.

>>7879719
https://github.com/bolrog/d2dx/releases

>>7879763
Is there a way to use this with d2se?

rolling in the dough

>>7880053
shopping for something in particular?

>try MedianXL
>it's shit
>uninstall
>"your game has been reverted to LoD 1.13c"
>it was fucking 1.14d before
>now every time the game initializes the screen, there's this tiny square in the corner of the monitor that seems to go through the alphabet in lowercase and caps really fast before it does any actual loading
>this inflates all loading times
Fucking hell, do I have to reinstall to get rid of this shit? What is this even?

>>7880258
In the time it took to type that post, you could have reinstalled if you still have the two installer.exe files. Takes me less than a minute to do.

1.13 is fucked in numerous ways depending on your system, graphics and other factors. 1.14 is just so much less of a headache for regular gameplay. D2SE gets around a lot of these issues though. Personally I keep three install folders and swap them out depending on what I want to do. 1.14, 1.13 and D2SE.

Just started my holy grail some three or four months ago, without much commitment… And Tyrael's Might simply dropped in Ancient Tunnels to my starter 200 MF sorceress… I'm blown away.

>>7880312
>no picture
Congrats! I've still not found one myself, despite having every other item.

>>7880316
I mean, I figured it wouldn't make sense to attach a picture, but here it is. As you can see, I couldn't even find Arachnid's Mesh or whatever it was called to put in Skullder's… Anyway, thanks. I still have 171 items left and wish you luck in your journey.

>>7880334
Nice find. I hope you dont get hung up on something stupid like me.

>>7880334
>unlimited stash space and it still looks like an absolutely trash heap
Am I the only person that organises their stash? I swear every time I see you people post your stash, it's just some jumbled mess with no organisation at all.

>>7879104
thx

>>7880360
I've been putting off organizing my stash for some time. Do you have any method to organizing yours?

Hi, does muttmod need a particular patch to run? I've dropped the folder in D2SE mod folder, clicking on Run Plugin doesn't do anything at all.

>>7880360
umad?

>>7880392
Just do whatever you find easy to flip through. You don't even have to think about it eventually, muscle memory is so good I can jump to any page without thinking about it.

>page one for stuff I swap all the time like magic find, reduce vendor prices etc etc
>page 2 essences
>page 3 keys
>page 10-13 one column for each gem rank, two gem types per page
>page 14-19 chipped/flawless gems for cubing stuff
>page 20-23 one column for each rune
>page 24-25 pages for orts and rals for cubing
>page 50-79 four sets per page, each to a corner
>page 80-89 charms ordered by stat type
>page 90-99 jewels for cubing
>page every 10 pages from 100 have a specific item type of uniques
>page 1000-1099 runewords
>page 1100 onwards sockets items

>>7880393
Does D2SE work normally? Like can you load any particular version of the D2?

>>7880407
Yes.

>>7880393
Double click the muttmod banner. Does that work?

>>7880393
Try running as admin and xp service pack 2 compatibility.

>>7880393
Well? Did you get it working?

>>7880360
For me, it's:
>page 1-99: extremely rare, non-consumable mod-specific items
>page 100-199: gems
>page 200-299: runes
>page 300-399: jewels
>page 400-499: charms
>page 500-599: uniques
>page 600-699: sets
>page 700-799: rings/amulets
>page 800-899: good rares/magics (skipped on most mods)
>page 900-999: good ethereal bases (skipped on most mods
>every subsequent 100 pages: mod specific item types

50 million gold down the muttmod gambling drain and all I got was an 8% increase in magic find, a teleport amulet and a couple misc crap I'll never use.

I think I'll wait til I level a bit more before doing this again.

>>7880312
Congrats anon. That's basically the story of my DWeb.
Barb was doing Baal runs and got ambushed by a boss pack of Rip Lords right at the entrance to throne room.
He has a Gull and an Ali Baba on swap, but I didn't have time to worry about that.
He had a grand total of 30 MF from a Goldwrap.
I wasn't even seriously looking for it given the amount of time and effort I figured I'd have to put in.

need a fun solo class for d2
barb, paladin, assassin, or sorc?

>>7847743
So, I tried the OpenAL thing in OP, but it seems the sound quality decreased, even with the frequency turned up. I tried fiddling with other options, but the end result is always way inferior to the standard - It's got almost a muffled, tinny sound to it. It's a shame, cause the game sounds great without it, it's just certain audio is way too loud, like clicking menu options or certain spells. With it, the volume normalizes, but it shits all over the audio quality.

>>7881302
all classes are fine solo, not sure which one you would find the most fun.
Sorceress tends to have a build for everyone

1.14d is the ideal version if you're not using any mods, correct?

>>7881534
it's the latest version yea

>>7881332
So you're saying you have audio issues in D2 either way? Works fine with and without on both my setups. Has been fine for 20 years across like a dozen different computer setups I've used.

Is this where we find out you have some ridiculously obscure, unique or customized pc setup? Or that you're on a mac? Are you using windows audio booster? Are your audio drivers up to date? Do you have any other audio programs installed? Are you sure it's not your headphones that are fucked? Tried running in compatibility mode?

Try this instead https://www.indirectsound.com

Try an earlier version of OpenAL Soft

>>7880409
first post to ever make me legitimately pleased that I can't use plugy

>>7881716
Why can't you use it?

>>7881731
I use kolbot to run party members, and I couldn't get it to run right even just on my manually-controlled leader, sadly. Forced to choose, I sided with my dozens of custom AI scripts... just feels better.

>>7881780
Why would that post make you pleased with not being able to use it? Do you dislike the idea of a grail?

Also, do you use another storage program instead? Gomule perhaps?

>>7881780
Why? What's wrong when you try?

>>7881787
Changes to UI are just fucking hard to integrate. But I think the grail is a great idea. I know I'm missing out. The compensation is the pleasure of just playing through the game a lot with different party configurations, and of course writing silly scripts to run stupid player builds

>>7881790
the entire loader crashes to desktop. Eventually got as far as getting into a game and opening the stash before this happened, but still

>>7881802
You didn't answer why
>>7880409 this post in particular makes you happy about not using it. Or is there no reason and you were just seething?

>>7881809
Shame. No way to edit the bot?

>>7881810
oh, hundreds of storage pages smell like trouble and I know it would happen to me eventually

>>7881818
I wouldn't say there's NO WAY, no, but it resides in a labyrinthine part of the handler scripts, and possibly the core js api as well, I would be lost lol

>>7881824
It's really not hard to manage. You can name the tabs, swap them around easily and move around by 1,10 or 100 pages per click.

Just use gomule. Plenty of people use it for grails.

>>7881839
>gomule
I might be able to work with this. thanks a lot

>>7879694
Agreed, it should have been easy to make an obvious border. And I'm not blaming the modder as much as the anon that's making shitty excuses for them.

>>7879736
>>7879743
Seconded. Plugy is the only fix I needed for D2

>>7880053
One reason I like Hellfire is the Auric amulet. Makes hoarding gold so much easier.

>>7881332
Are you using headphones? Windows has an issue where enabling the microphone for Bluetooth headphones severely reduces audio quality. Disable the option in Device Manager to force it to use the headphone-only option.

>>7880334
Son of a bitch, that's like a third of a grail by itself.

Congrats. But fuck you.

i recently played diablo 1 for the first time and went as a warrior. it was pretty fun but it took me restarting the story and making my way through the dungeon several times to get to a level where i could beat it.

is that normal or am i retarded? also, what's the most fun class to play as in your opinion?

>>7883010
>or am i retarded?
Yes, you probably should have been able to clear it in one pass. Did you skip a lot? Or not spend time looking through the shops for gear?

>what's the most fun class to play as in your opinion?
Rogue.

Thoughts on perspective mode in D2?

>>7883017
i did everything i could honestly. it was still fun though, maybe i'll try a rogue next.

>>7883063
My thoughts are "oh yeah, that exists".

>help I can't get a mod to work in D2SE
>give help
>no reply

>help my audio doesn't work
>give help
>no reply

Are you people allergic to responding?

I only managed to beat diablo in d1 by accidently glitching him with fire wall
the last few levels were dumb bullshit anyways

Breddy gud.

>>7883557
holy bolt stuns diablo

>>7883446
Don't be so needy anon, it's a slow thread.

>>7883815
but I want to help them

>>7883557
I don't get this. Both my first playthroughs with a warrior and rogue I could just face tank diablo for a while, kite for 5 seconda, then face tank again. Brainless. D1 always did seem to be a good pleb filter though.

>>7883879
how? if you try to kite him he will just do his ranged explosion

>>7883917
You only need to do it for a short enough time to get around a corner or move potions into place or whatever.

>>7883930
>potionabusing

>>7883934
Yeah no shit sherlock, of course you stock up on potions for a boss fight.

>>7883940
don't pretend you've really beaten diablo when you're basically cheating

>>7883945
>using the inventory is cheating
okay retard

>>7883948
pleb exposed

>>7883950
says the guy who couldn't beat the game without glitching the boss

>>7864296
There is a clear disconnect between the underlying engine and the new fancy renderer that will always make the remaster look "off" to me, but the remaster itself shows how much of a fuck up Diablo 3 is in the aesthetic department when some no-name devs can do a much better job than Blizzard.

>>7883934
>keeping pots in inventory is abusing them
>glitching with firewall is a-ok though
I bet you didn't even keep situational gear and spells.

Spearazon or javazon while leveling?

>>7880258
>corner of the monitor that seems to go through the alphabet
Wow, I haven't gotten that error since I first installed vista. Changing the compatibility fixed in for me back then, though you should obviously just install the patches again.

>>7884461
javazon. always

>>7884580
do you invest heavily into the throwing skills or do you use the ones that cast lightning on strike?

>>7884638
I do the ones that I enjoy personally more.

>>7882626
Thanks. I'm still in disbelief

in diablo 1 is it worth leveling up magic as a warrior? posted earlier about playing diablo 1 for the first time, but i hardly used magic at all except to create town portals.

>>7884819
you could have abused fire walls

>>7884819
Not at all. Enough for the healing spell/town portal and you can get that from gear. Keep enough +magic gear, swap it on, read the book, swap gear back again.

>>7883934
Is it abuse if you spread them around on the ground for quick pickup? That's all I ever had to do to beat him.

My light sorc is level 90 and still hasn't killed Ball because I dont want to kill Nihlathak.

>>7885621
...and why would you have to kill Nihlathak to kill baal?

>>7885647
I dont know, it's been a while since I've last played (just reopened plugy save from years ago). I dont want to kill Nihlathak for the quick portal to Pindle, I thought I had to kill him to progress the quest but I guess not.

>>7885621
>>7885667
Imagine being so rigid and uninquisitive in your mindset as to never even try...hell to not even google it. Just blindly assuming. Are you asian?

>I thought I had to kill him to progress the quest but I guess not.
You can beat the game having only done 10 of the 27 quests.

>>7885667
The story sends you after Nihlathak for a MacGuffin that's supposed to keep you from having to fight the ancients.
It's a moot point by the time you get there as he's already given it to Baal.
Nil is totally optional in practice.

>>7885667
To get to baal I'm pretty sure you can skip every quest in the act bar the ancients.

>>7885667
latest version of plugy (14.02) keeps the portal open even if you complete nihlathak quest so you can still have quick acces to pindle

>>7886423
cows stay open even after killing king too

>>7886423
>so you can still have quick acces to pindle
And necro squelettes.

Cute gamble from Anya

>>7886453
>cute
Is English not your first language? That word doesn't fit at all unless you're some retarded sexual deviant who thinks armour pieces are somehow endearing in the same way a baby deer is.

>>7886460
You better be trolling

>>7879624
It's very Diablo 1. You still have to read books to learn spells. You're also automatically given some skills as you level up, which add some depth to combat, but still feels like D1.

I played it coop - I think we used barb and sorcerer. Worked well; sorc murders crowds but gets murdered by uniques, Barb winds up basically invincible but kills single targets, so can tank uniques.

It's way more gear dependent than D1, so there were a few times we had to really stop and grind for stuff. They also tied game progression to character level. Once you're up to about caves on the final difficulty, the grind becomes extremely painful, and we ultimately lost interest without finishing it.

Some unique enemies are also a pain - they just take fucking forever to kill. So you stand there, in no danger, for two minutes while you slowly kill something.

Great mod, though. A few of the new quests made me feel like I was playing d1 for the first time all over again.

>>7886453
Too bad it wasn't flat life. Life based on clvl kind of sucks since it isn't increased by +life%.

Might even use it.

>>7886670
Yeah, would have been fun if it were of the whale instead.

>>7886460
my nigga you be mad over the word cute? why?

>>7886827
>mad
No. A little annoyed, sure. It's not a difficult word to understand.

>>7886834
>he doesn't understand words outside of their literal meaning

You're cute, anon.

>>7886850
See, that usage is correct. The prior one is not...and no, there is no colloquial, patois or argot use of the word that works either. Fuck off and learn to speak properly.

>>7886850
>>7886881
..and if you think I'm wrong, please, feel free to explain exactly how this >>7886453 piece of virtual armour is cute.

As far as I can tell it cannot be cute 'in universe' of the game, as that's just silly, nobody in the history of the world has ever looked at an actual medieval breastplate and thought it looked cute. As for outside the game? The armour piece is in no way smaller, weaker, softer, rounder, more insignificant, pathetic, childish, in need of protection, womanly, simple or any other sort of factor that would convey cuteness vs any other piece of such armour.

In what way are you using the word? What exactly are you trying to convey when typing it out?

>>7886912
Just leave him alone, anon. He has the tism and hes gonna keep saying it regardless.

>>7886881
I don't get your issue with this. Being a "by the book" nerd does you no favors, English (and I would guess all languages) is not constrained by the opinions of a dictionary writer. It is commonplace for writers to twist the meaning of a word in such a way that it takes on a new or altered meaning. Regardless, I'd argue it fits the definition literally. That piece of armor is cute. The combination of decent affixes and low required level is enough to make it pretty, something that stands out and satisfies casual inspection, such that someone would feel inclined to screenshot and post it. Perhaps something you'd throw onto a hireling for a few levels. That it was uploaded, and has even sparked such a discussion, makes it undoubtedly endearing. Of all the items I've seen posted in these threads, this may very well have become the most memorable one yet.

>>7886938
>I don't get your issue with this.
If I made a post in reply to some idiot, along the lines of "anon why are you such a fencepost?", it would have the exact same problem as yours. It's an illogical sentence.

>It is commonplace for writers to twist the meaning of a word in such a way that it takes on a new or altered meaning.
Yes. But nobody else but you does it in the way you have done with that word. Words have meaning, meaning you should be using. Meaning that only changes with significant time and or consensus. None of which you have. You injecting your own meaning does not suddenly make other people understand it. It doesn't even work tangentially.

>The combination of decent affixes
Not cute.
>low required level
Not cute.
>is enough to make it pretty
Then say pretty. Hell you'd actually have a case then, as the colour of the armour itself is quite pretty.

>something that stands out and satisfies casual inspection, such that someone would feel inclined to screenshot and post it.
Again, nothing there implies cuteness. You saying it does not make it so.

>That it was uploaded, and has even sparked such a discussion
That is not a quality inherent to the armour. The discussion is around the erroneous use of the word.

>Of all the items I've seen posted in these threads, this may very well have become the most memorable one yet.
Good. Perhaps you'll remember to actually use the word correctly then. I doubt it though as you've used it many times already in these threads and most of them have been similarly incorrect.

the weapon rack retard is definetly not cute

>>7887079
Seconded.

>>7886938
>It is commonplace for writers to twist the meaning of a word in such a way that it takes on a new or altered meaning
It is far more commonplace for retards to use words incorrectly due to their ignorance. But keep trying to make excuses for yourself.

Are you seriously gimping yourself when branching out in leveling? I have been playing a zeal focused paladin but want some blessed hammers for a ranged attack to mix things up.

>>7887145
>Are you seriously gimping yourself when branching out in leveling?
yea, don't do it, you're gonna do shit damage.

>>7887145
Depends on the build. Bowzons can put your skills anywhere...because none of your skill points feel like they do anything.

>>7887145
If you've maxed your main aura and got one point in whatever else you need, the skills after that aren't huge. You could get away with it.

>>7886962
>anon, why are you such a fencepost?
Ironically, that could easily make sense with proper contextualization. In a political argument, it could refer to centrism. In the context of this argument, it would appear to be a reference to my stubbornness and/or stupidity.

>low required level is not cute
>combination of decent affixes is not cute
Absolutely it can be. Cute has a childish connotation to it, and it only makes sense that a low level character would be in a sense youthful. I would never describe Grief as cute due to its reasonably high level requirements and end-game usage. In fact, I wouldn't call any item cute excepting for the sake of this argument, since it's fucking gay, but Steel, Zephyr, Nadir and other early game runewords? It could make sense to describe them in such a way. The combination of low required level with attractive properties is intrinsically linked with new and pretty, and thus cuteness.

Your entire argument rests upon the idea that "cute" is an objective quality. It obviously isn't, and arguing otherwise is a far larger bastardization of the term than the supposed wrongness of calling an item cute. Attraction is a matter of opinion. It does not matter what you think, if someone considers an Artisan's Ancient Armor of the Centaur to be attractive on the basis of prettiness, then it is.

From a "colloquial, patois or argot use of the word", you are even more wrong. People think pugs are cute, even though it should be wrong to consider malformed abominations attractive in any way. It's even commonplace to call old people cute, even though they are not youthful nor pretty, if anything acting as the antithesis. You can even google search Diablo 2 "cute item" and you will find results, some d2jspfags in effective agreement that an item can be "cute". You either just don't like the word (and wanted a reason to shit on it) or are an ESL (and thus incapable of picking up on many worse instances of word usage in this very thread).

>>7887610
>you saying it does not make it so

My D2 with d2dx and PlugY has started lagging in LAN co-op in Act II with some major freezes in dungeons with effects going everywhere. Anyone experience this before?

What kind of fucking autism is this.

>>7887653
You mean cuteism

>>7887648
Restarting the game seems to have fixed it.

cute thread

Post sorceress.

why does all the female voice work in diablo 2 give me a boner

>>7888581
There's not much of it, hope you can coom fast.

Convenient.

Get a load of this shit. Just insulting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Hiv69pCLA

>>7887145
you are seriously gimping yourself by not placing your skills optimally.

Granted - you get 3 free resets, so you can just use whatever works while making the char, and then reset once you hit 45+ and have enough points to use your intended build and not sucking horribly.

>>7884819
eventually, you'll have elixirs, and your magic is capped at 50 anyway, so you'll need to hunt around for enchanted shrines to level up teleport, but besides that, and holy bolt to clear BDs, you seldom use magic as a warrior.

>>7886962
>being this brand new faggot

>>7890113
>using jsp
>ever
i shiggy diggy

>>7890298
cute

>>7890327
wrong anon. I don't care about your autistic slap fight. JSP is for fags who don't know how to play the game.

>>7886453

>>7886453

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkU3FIMuExs
>1.0 run

I am not sure why but I have fun with 3 this month. I have gone to Paragon 150 with 4 characters.
I thought the game would be trash (it is compared to the old ones, but still addictive somehow).

Has anyone tried a "no identify" challenge? No ID scrolls, no Caine, no shopping, no gambling. Your only allowed magic items are quest rewards, socketing gems/runes/runewords, and cube recipes and crafting.

>>7891916
D1 is more interesting for that. You can still equip the items.

>>7891672
D3 was objectively straight up garbage on release. The best part was that they made your main state impact your damage so that was THE thing that mattered when looking for weapons and gear but they designed legendary gear without taking that in mind so pretty much every single piece of legendary gear that you could find was literal garbage you look at for two seconds and then tossed on the floors. The rarest items in the game was literally so bad that you'd rather just pick a random blue item from a vendor.

>>7891916
Diablo 3 is a dopamine activator refined to the most simple and insulting level. The only good thing about it is how the combat feels. You might as well just jerk off or play one of those cookie clicker mobile games instead. Same amount of thought required, but they'll at least take less of your time.

>6000000% damage on sets which make all other gear choices irrelevant
>no permanence in choice at all makes every character the same
>a set is literally given to you early on and obtaining the rest can be done in a few hours at most
>there is no end game item hunt, just a continual 1% positive refinement on items you already had 2000 hours ago
>stats are dumbed down to the most simple levels of +% damage
>raw main stat makes swapping items between classes pointless, when they're even equipable at all in the first place
>story deliberately shits on pre established lore and characters

I see zero reason you would play it over D2, D1, path of exile, titan quest or grim dawn. All of which are immeasurably better and actually respect your intelligence a little. D3 is insulting at best.

>>7891978
meant for >>7891672

I just a clip of the act 3 cinematic and it's whack. Why is he convulsing like a spastic? Too cheesy.

>>7891978
>D1
Atmosphere and immersion
>D2
Itemisation near-perfection and multiplayer, graphics with the remaster
>PoE
End-game autism
>Titan Quest
Fictional worlds lore and sprawling, huge maps
>Warframe
Feel of combat, graphics

All of these do their thing better than D3. There really is no reason to play it over one of them.

so i see all these guides telling me how to play summon necromancer on hell or nightmare when i have 20 levels in skeles and revive and enigma and shit but how do i solo as a summon necro in normal and nightmare? i got decrepify finally and it makes bosses really slow but my skeles and golems still die with a single diablo or baal aoe. i fought them with others so it was fine since i was basically just a walking debuff for my party but how do you do this normally

>>7892436
Why do you people do this? It's always skele necros too. We can't help you unless you tell us your skills/items....but for an easy answer, just grind some levels. You reach a point where the skeletons just stop dying against almost everything.

>>7892445
sorry thought summon necro was self explanatory. i put a single point into golems and that stuff, single point into the good curses, dump the rest into skellies, then when done skelly mastery. i will just believe you that they skeletons get super beefy with time. in the meantime ill just keep partying up, decrpify just neuters bosses ive used it on it's funny seeing diablo sprint and barely moving

>>7892479
>sorry thought summon necro was self explanatory
It is, but you're the one having trouble with it. Colds are self explanatory to doctors, but they need to see the symptoms first to tell you the specifics. Fucks sake anon.

>what level are you
>what level are your skills
>What do you have in your main and offhand?
>Have you put any points into summon resist?

Also, what golem are you using and if it is clay, it doesn't hurt to put a few more levels into it. You can also shop for a teleport staff to keep on weapon swap, to group all your summons together on bosses.

>>7892505
lvl 24 1 point in the good curses, golem skills, skele mastery, rest in raise skele. no good items yet. 1 point in summon resist so far. using clay golem. havent seen a teleport staff in shop yet but haven't looked super hard either

>>7892436
the way you cheese bosses is to spam Iron Maiden and Clay Golem, while shouting "Stop hitting yourself!"

>>7892541
You can grind to mid 30s from pindle/eldritch in under an hour by increasing the player number to 8. Put another 3-4 points into resist.

You still havent given specifics on your main and offhand yet.

>>7892436
A lot of people come asking for advice about necs and it seems to make people upset easily, think cute2
Anyway, optimally put in 3:1 Raise:Mastery until Raise is 20, then max mastery. All the other skills can be 1. Revive, Clay, GMastery, Resist, Amp, Decrep, Life Tap. After Mastery, max out corpse explosion.
-use clay golem with decrep for the proper effect
-just fucking level skeletons and mastery and it will stay well ahead of the difficulty curve
-the crowd control curses are good to have eventually. Terror versus dolls. Confusion draws wide aggro in from offscreen, making the most of CE.

>>7892675
3:1 is horseshit. Stop it.

>>7892541
You're under leveled for act 4, let alone 5. Level up more. Thats your problem. Google area level.

>>7892781
Certainly not this close together. Neat.

>>7892781
Yeah that's a first for me, too.

>>7892541
Buy +3 raise skeleton / +3 skeleton mastery wand from Akara. Those +3 skill levels in both skills do a lot.
You should have done this at level 1, by the way. Now you will have to spam her shop for longer unless you are lucky.
>>7892702
>You're under leveled for act 4
Level 24 is okay for (the beginning of) act 4. I also get there around that level.

>>7892702
Don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about.
This isn't the first time you've done this, and last time you got shut down with proof of stupid you are.

>>7893179
There's more than two people in these threads, schizo.

>>7893179
Hit post too quickly. Meant to add that raise skeleton gives more life than mastery, which is what he's having trouble with. Asshole.

cute hp

bump

>>7893428
You can't bump a dying thread.

>>7893404
what is your fucking gamma on?

>>7893437
?

>>7893439
The globes, stamina bar and most whites are awful. What insult to computers are you running on?

>>7893431
So what should I have done?

>>7893451
Boot up the game and kill Baal, that old bitch.

>>7893451
Nothing. The thread is beyond the bump limit. You wait for it to die and we all continue shit flinging in the next one.

>>7893454
>>7893456
oh wait what? the post count isn't in the italics for me...woops

>>7893454
Haha fucking epic reply bro, haha, you're so edgy and cool. Did you see the latest marvel film bro? Fucking loved the scene where batman shoots that guy! What a bitch haha.

>>7893447
idk bro

>>7893458
Speak sense, man.

>>7893457
No threads anywhere are italics for me these days. Perhaps they've changed it.

>>7893467
Fools don't understand sense.

>>7893457
install 4chanx. Turns the page count red when it's past bump limit. It's also super useful for a tone of other reasons.

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