/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7821005
I'm kinda burned out from tr and gaming as a whole, but still can talk about Lara for hours.

These fucking creatures were terrifying af
>>7821005
based raider
>>7822046
based larachad

>>7821005
no, but I finally played through most of 3 in the past year
I guess I got too filtered as a kid because this time around it wasnt really all that hard and I think its my favorite of the originals

I was inspired to finally play it because I had just played the tomb of the emperor or whatever its called, which was okay but not great

>>7823000
>traced Natalie Portman photo

>>7821005
I just beat the Saturn version of TR1 again the other day. There still isn't any other game that absolutely nails the feeling of exploration and isolation that the first game has.

With all of the indieshit that has been released over the years I am surprised no one has done a Tomb Raider style environmental block based 3D platformer.

So what's the best way to play TR1-5 nowadays? Does the game run well on W10?

>>7824275
I don't know about "best", but the easiest is to just emulate the Playstation versions. You can crank the visual settings up in your emulator if you want the textures and models to look sharper.

>>7824357
It's what I'm doing. I think 1-2 might look better on PC, but 3 was especially built for the PS1 and the lighting looks more atmospheric.

>>7824361
Nice. 3 is the only classic TR I never got around to playing. Outside of "do Area 51 first so you don't fuck yourself" I don't really know anything about it.

>>7824104
probably
she does have a pretty face though

>>7824645
Yes, but still it's unacceptable if you ask me.

>>7824740
its objectively a good picture but yeah, I guess I agree
no reason to resort to a jew if you can use a real anglo beauty

>>7824907
Right.
For me it's Andy Park.

>>7824275
You have to download a special program that forces windows to run the games properly, because if you don't, the resolution gets all "off" and there's a window border even if the game is supposed to be in fullscreen. I forget what it's called, but it was "compatibility kit" or something.

fuck yeah
finally, jesus motherfucking christ, the last part was a hell

>>7825338
Is this your first playthrough? I am not a big fan of the Atlantis levels. I would play an entire game made up of Greek style levels though, those were fun as hell. The Egypt levels were pretty fun too.

I should play through The Last Revelation again, now that I think about it.

>>7825079
no.

Finished 2 a couple weeks ago. I'm delaying starting 3 because I'm playing them on PS1 and I know what sort of bullshit awaits me.

>>7827520
Yes, it's not a good idea to marathon through these game. Really easy to burn out.

>>7827049
>Is this your first playthrough
nope. The second one. It was a long time since a played it, moreover it's more difficult that the OG

>>7827605
The first Tomb Raider is piss easy if you get all of the secrets, if you're paying attention the game throws items at you like crazy. The last time I beat it I think I had like 35 of each medkit, 60 shotgun shells, 6,000 uzi rounds, and I don't even remember how many magnum rounds. I'm kind of autistic about saving ammo in videogames though, and a lot of the enemies in Tomb Raider can be cheesed by just standing on a platform and shooting them with your pistols.

Using the Magnums on that fag Pierre Dupont was absolutely worth it though. Fuck that guy.

>>7827497
It might be a different story if you get the game off of steam, but if you have the original release discs, yes they have issues with running in the proper resolution and in fullscreen.
I can't find it anymore but Windows used to offer a "compatibility kit" that you could use to force programs to run in certain ways.

jesuschrist, those are some huge rocks

>>7827049
I never finish TTLR, either because I get stuck in the library, or get bored of City of the Dead

>>7828396
i can see you, son of a bitch

While exploring the London subway tunnel stumbled into some kind of secret spooky masonic lodge. Kino atmosphere but struggling to progress, found a star key hidden behind a curtain but it doesn't fit in the 2 keyholes, any hint? Is the solution in this room or do I need to explore elsewhere?

>>7821005
OP, which one is this?

And regarding my fav game, The Last Revelation. But that's because I'm Egypt-craze (literally reading analysis of the book of the dead right now) so it was obvious choice.

>>7828904
cool ass structure. Killed all the centaurs. I would like to see them in high res, not as they were in Anny, but how they are here. Imagine them with no skin, all the fresh flesh and blood all over their bodies... That would look be something Barker-ish tier monsters, similar to the Hellraiser cenobites.

>>7828998
I like the atmosphere of London better than Nevada. India>London>Nevada so far.

>>7829379
TR3.

I'm in Egypt right now!

>>7829461
nothing good must be there

>>7829796
indeed. It's a deathtrap

> Posting screenshots that are pictures of a CRT TV

Soul. It's like late 90s/early 200s Gamefaqs in here.

>>7829802
all alone in this bizarre atlantean hive, with all those gigant ass eggs and their giant umbilical cords. They move wildy, i don't know if it's spooky or just unpleasant.

>>7830010
nigga you must be fucking kidding me, how many of these creature are there?! holy shit

>>7830010
>>7830020
The ones with waving tendrils have a monster inside, the ones that are still don't.

>>7830031
makes sense, didn't know it. I was more shocked by all those eggs.
>>7830020
finallyy! my 2nd round of this game was great. Fully recommended~

>>7830061
What's that weird blue box on your screen?

>>7829658
the first level of nevada is nice, but the compound ones are the worst in the game
well, I stopped at RX mines which was also pretty bad so I cant speak for half of antarctica

everybody bitches about london but I actually liked it except for the sekrit club and the big water tanks area

>>7830020
thats where I stopped in tr1
1 and 3 have bad endgames imo

>>7821005
man i thought that lara croft was just exploring old ruins but it has a bunch of weird shit too

>>7830435
The first game was 100% old ruins, the second game ruined it by throwing you in the middle of Venice (herp derp people having gunbattles in the middle of a major European city in broad daylight) , an oil rig, and then the wreck of a sunken ocean liner (which, to be fair, was a pretty based set of levels since the ship was mostly upside-down at the bottom of the ocean). Then you had a Tibetan monastery and some otherworldly shit.

TR3 has you sneaking into Area 51 (wtf?) and killing American security guards who are just doing their jobs, as well as running around killing stuff in London.

Chronicles has some faggy shit where Lara is an art thief in a Matrix outfit for some reason.

Then we had The Last Revelation, which was back to Egypt.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, Tomb Raider games are best when you're exploring ancient ruins, not wandering around modern city streets in the middle of the day shooting thugs.

>>7830631
>Speedboat goes brrrr

>>7830631
Last Revelation is before Chronicles

>>7830631
>Lara is an art thief in a Matrix outfit for some reason.
>Faggy shit
This is literally the opposite of faggy.

>>7831207
She looks awesome in catsuit.

Guys, I would like to discuss something.
I don't know if anyone here thinks or thought the same.
Don't you see a clear difference between the first tomb raiders and TR3-TR4-TRC? I'm talking about the graphics, not the story or enemies. In particular, I don't like the new realistic or very well defined elements of the scenarios that looked so "realistic".
Take for example the water. In TR1-TR2 is just that, fucking h20, but in the last games, the water had shadows, some parts were green, maybe dark... It happened with all things, scenarios, enemies, passages... I had to use flares one after another cause sometimes i couldnt see nothing but darkness. This wasn't in the first games.

>>7830120
In old TVs it indicated that the volumen was off, muted.

>>7831279
Did you play on PC or PS1?

They tweaked the engine for TR3 and developed primarily for PS1 instead of PC so it has a different color palette and makes better use of the PS1 hardware. I personally love how much darker it looks, the more atmospheric lighting. I tried looking at PC footage and by comparison it seems to lack that atmosphere.

>>7831294
Took screencaps from youtube walkthroughs to compare since this is the most atmospheric moment in India (you fall in a pitch black pit with an ominous statue, and in the next room fire and torchlights dynamically light up the place for a boss encounter), PC is noticeably brighter/duller.

>>7831294
>>7831398
this is what i mean! Your caps are perfect to this. The ps1 version is all darkness while the PC version is brighter, cleaned.

Maybe is what you say, reprogramming the game engine would use all the ps1 capability, but for me, it's awful.

I even tried to change the brightness on my screen but it's no use. But, thinking of this, why did the studio change the engine? Muh realism meme?

>>7831482
Why would forgotten underground temples with sparse light sources be overly bright? It adds to the exploration/mysterious atmosphere, and that's what the flares are for.

Does anyone know what is this from? I saved it from twitter.
Looks like some commercial.

>>7830631
The Venice levels were fine, it didn't feel like I was spending too much time there that it was overstaying it's welcome. The oil rig leves got boring very quickly though. The only levels I absolutely hated were the floating islands because they stuck out too much and didn't feel like they belonged to the same game I was playing earlier.
The area 51 stuff makes sense. Why wouldn't the US military find the artifact and use it for testing? It's just an unfortunate circumstance that it is also being guarded by a bunch of yes man grunts. I liked the london levels honestly, especially the subway section. I don't get why it receives so much hate.
Chronicles was never meant to be released, Eidos basically forced Core to release another Tomb Raider game even they didn't want to, so of course playing it is going to be like having a loud, wet fart in a middle of a crowd. Just an overall really bad experience that has no substance.

>>7830631
Venice is not a major city; its actually pretty small. I think the mafia area is completely abandoned except for them. You start the area after climbing a fence next to a gang sign.

they missed an opportunity to have greek and egyptian monsters in TR1
they overused animals

>>7821005
I’m disappointed the sunken ship area in TR2 and the Nevada levels in TR3 didn’t have a boss battle.

>>7832952
What kind of monsters would they have used?

I was fine with the animals. Most of the animal fights were super easy to cheese (jump on top of something, shoot animals to death with your infinite ammo pistols while they ran around in circles), and so Core way over-corrected in TR2 by throwing a million hitscanning human enemies into the game.

Lara Croft kills exactly four people in Tomb Raider. I think she kills over 150 in Tomb Raider 2. At that point she has gone from self assured treasure hunter to legitimate psychopath.

>>7833587
Actually, now that I think about it technically it's only three people, since Natla is an Atlantean.

>>7833587
chimera, hydra, minotaur, etc
egypt has less iconic ones, but still

Instead we got hordes of animals and these atlantean monsters (which make sense for the game, sure). One of the atlantean types is a centaur, which is greek.

>>7833587
>legitimate psychopath
she is attacked by these people, remember
self-defense isnt wrong

area 51 can't really be defended though

>>7833673
The alternative would be letting the government have access to a powerful artifact that would be used to either
A) kill people in some other country
B) destabilize another country
C) experiment on it's own citizens
D) abuse it's properties and end up destroying it in the process
Not her fault a bunch of morons are guarding it.

Lara did nothing wrong.

>>7831549
I understand your point and in fact, it's true. It makes sense, and I agree with you, but as a player, as someone who has to control the situation, it's difficult to move around, look for secrets and items or stay alert to not get caught by surprisedly some bad guys.

Subjectively, I don't understand why to change the two first game's atmosphere (that was fine, and you were in the middle of some old subterranean ass ruins), by all realistic graphics enhance of the later games.

May we change some scenarios cause of “how they will be irl”? I don't think so. Consider please my picrel, that's from Tomb Raider: Unfinished Business. Lara is somewhere in an Egyptian desert, it's dark (at night) cause you look up and there is nothing more than stars, you look at the background, and it is also dark. BUT, there are some parts that are illuminated, can you see it? These are nothing more than some friendly clues given by the devs that are pointing at “some areas that, maybe, you can consider visiting”.
In game, these “clues” could be interpreted by moonbeams.

Now take this scenario and port it to some >TR3 engine. These would be all pitch black because we are at night.

>>7834339
I also think civilization is a mistake, but the vast majority of people will disagree with your anarchist views

>>7835606
>being critical of authority makes you an anarchist
Lmao

>>7835338
TR1 had lots of ultra bright areas even though there were no light sources because 100% of the lighting was static.

They introduced dynamic lighting in TR2 with the flares (as well as muzzle flashes from Lara's weapons), but then they made a ton of areas super dark so that you would have to rely on the new flares mechanic. It's just another example of how they massively overswung in the wrong direction in TR2 compared to the original.

>>7836489
>It's just another example of how they massively overswung in the wrong direction in TR2 compared to the original.

Also, "You can save anywhere now instead of just at crystals, so we're going to put a shitload of instant death traps everywhere as a result".

Finally out of London, museum was a slog

Finally some classic exotic jungle location with classic mysterious temples? Hopefully. I'll find out next time.

I finished the TR1 with openlara, i took time because i have to hotfix some gamebreaking bugs.

I also added the braid and changed the torso, if someone want it with all the files just ask

>>7836489
So, you're agreeing with me? Aren't your this >>7831549 anon? I mean, you're having a dig at the flares' system in TR2...

>>7838029
Different anon. I was the one defending the darker lighting.

Well you also have to keep in mind that at the time TR1 was cutting edge for early 3D but also had a limited engine, also ran on Saturn weaker hardware, etc. so it wasn't just static lighting but also everything being so blocky etc impressive for early gen but by mid gen 3D evolved rapidly, graphics were a huge selling point and people expected better lighting and more detailed polygonal environments. Eidos had to react or lose market share. Even with those tweaks to the engine, TR sequels couldn't really keep up graphically and were heavily criticized for just being more of the same or starting to look dated, when you had games like MGS, Silent Hill or Soul Reaver coming out.

Here's a fan level that's REALLY dark, and makes TR3 look brightly lit. Really emphasizes the horror atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l03br2zaaHI

>>7838082
>also ran on Saturn weaker hardware, etc

A reminder - Tomb Raider had a longer draw distance and significantly better water effects on the Saturn

Great level so far, classic exploration adventure vibe. Why did they start doing urban/industrial environments, when these are so much better?

This thread is making me want to play Tomb Raider again. Where do you download ROMs these days? I heard emu was closed.

>>7839415
I also really like the outdoor non-city levels the best. I guess they just wanted variety, both for themselves as creators and for the audience.

>>7839761
Vimm's lair

I'm getting completely filtered trying to run this on pSXfin or just trying to find a copy to download for the PC. Jesus christ, do I really need to set up my Saturn so I can play this game again on my lousy TV?

>>7840208
Thanks anon I'll give this one a shot but I think I will be filtered.. again.

Somehow managed to get all those audio files merged into one file that the pSXfin can read properly using CDMage and it's working for now.

I didn't remember this fella. How was he keeping company to the doggies?

>PC, PS1, Dreamcast

What's the best way to play the OG Tomb Raider series?

>>7840774
Emulate the PS1 versions of Tomb Raider, TR2, and TR3. Play the Dreamcast versions of The Last Revelation and Chronicles (if you can't get ahold of a Dreamcast than just emulate the PS1 versions). Skip Angel of Darkness, it's a turd.

If you feel like putting some work in you can get the PC versions running on modern hardware with fanmade tools, but emulating the PS1 versions is piss easy.

>>7840712
That sprite shows up a couple of times in the game, it's based on pic related, which is an actual Peruvian mummy. They didn't scale it quite right though, which is why it's fuckhuge compared to Lara (more noticeable when you get close to it).

>>7840851
>Skip Angel of Darkness, it's a turd
It's not the best in the series but it's not the worst lmao. Plus the jiggle physics is absolutely on point.

>>7841101
Agree, AoD is not that bad at all.

>be last surviving members of small (slightly cannibalistic but mostly peaceful) primitive jungle tribe just chilling in your hut village
>crazy white woman shows up and starts shooting at you with uzis and shotguns when you only have blowdarts and spears to defend yourselves
>whole tribe has now been genocided

>>7841743
Lara probably smelled really good.

>>7841749
Probably like girl sweat and insect repellent and horse semen

>>7841973
>horse semen
This is not a nulara thread. /v/ is two blocks down.

God I wish lara could peg me

Best playstation 1 emulator? I kind of want to replay the last revelation but I only have it for the playstation.

>>7821005
Do we have a way to play the 60 fps version on modern systems yet?

>>7842490
Duckstation

>>7842754
OpenLara supports 120 fps, it plays buttery smooth. I don't get all the hate it gets here for some reason.

>>7842980
It has a lot of gamebreaking bugs and the dev waste time like giving support to windows phone instead of fix it, I have to fix some of them myself to been able to finish the game

Dinosaurs! Those little shits are even worse than t-rexes.

I love how some of these levels are fairly non-linear.

>>7843670
I'm just done defeating this little shit. I couldn't even remember I fought these beasts so early in the game.

>>7842895
>doesn't support reading from physical disc
Soidevs need to stop doing this with their emulators.

>>7843447
In TR1? Officially only TR1 is supported but it's playable from start to finish, i didn't encounter any bugs so far. Did you download the latest build? (4-3-21)

>>7838082
Honestly, I had no idea. From what I have always read in magazines and others sites, during the first four games everything was going smoothly for the company (continuous television spots, a lot of publicity, the first comics, rumors about a film).

>TR thread
>No Aragorn
... did something happend to that guy?

>>7827520
Then you know wrong. TR3 on PC is an excellent game, as it doesn't have the bullshit PS1 save system.

>>7846271
If he plays the PS1 version of TR3 on an emulator he won't have to worry about the bullshit save system.

>>7846290
Either way, he's safe from that shit. And anyone talking about difficulty is a fucking retard - that save system added tedium, instead of making things difficult.

>>7845010
Yes TR1, I posted a screenshot earlier in this thread, ofcourse latest version, you can check open issues in github for all the bugs, the most annoying bug is the one that dont let you climb up or move while hanging, also you can accidentally clip to walls, get stuck on slopes if there is a little wall and when you lose all the collectables on natla's mines

>Played TR 1
>Cant be assed to play 2
Been stuck like that for a while now

>>7846889
Jump directly to TR3

Taking too many screencaps of those levels but I love the big natural areas/dark temples atmosphere. The level design is so much better when they open things up. It's what disappointed me about the reboots; they turned into open worlds but the actual "platforming puzzle" layouts are so small and short, artificially isolated from one another instead of one big whole.

>>7846263
He got Uruk-Hai'd

>>7846263
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/zippyshare%20tr3/

>>7848853
All those links are expired, including the anonfiles one. Polish Aragon anon should have uploaded them to a Mega account, they never expire and offer 15GB free storage so he wouldn't have to split them up either into separate downloads either, zippy is a thing from the past if you ask me.
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
You can get 1, 2 and 4 from my link, but they don't come with add-ons/fmv's installed unfortunately... soundtrack is included however.
Original DOS version can be found in the DOS pack, updated versions from 1 (OL), 2 (TR2Main) and 4 (Multipatch) can be found in the Win98 folder. For those who hate OpenLara, a fork of the outdated TombATI is being developed (TR1Main).

Are Chronicles and AOD really that bad?

>>7849096
AoD no.
Chronicles was a cashgrab but still not that bad.

>>7847096
>Taking too many screencaps of those levels

Nah man, I have been digging them, keep it up

>>7849096
>>7849176

AOD is a turd. They tried to reboot the series and take it into a darker/edgier direction but it just fell flat. The mechanics were extremely "videogame-y" (Oh, I can't push this thing to progress, but literally right around the corner is a thing that makes me strong enough to be able to push that thing), and the story is pants on head retarded.

That said, if you want to give it a shot, by all means go for it. There are weirdos out there who enjoyed it. There were some novel additions (exploring non-level areas, talking to NPCs, a second playable character), but there are like 20 different better Tomb Raider games you could be playing instead. I will admit that Lara's AOD character model is second only to her milfmode Underworld look in terms of bonerability, though.

Chronicles was slapped together and feels like four glorified expansion packs on a single disc. It's mostly just "more of the same" classic Tomb Raider gameplay, but if you like classic Tomb Raider gameplay than that's not really a bad thing.

The classic Tomb Raider series was all about taking the exact same gameplay, on the exact same engine, adding some new features, and releasing a sequel. It's a perfect example of 'iterative design'. A lot of reviewers shit on the franchise for doing this (PCXL literally just copy pasted their TR3 review with new screenshots as a joke when they reviewed The Last Revelation), but if you were someone who really enjoyed classic Tomb Raider gameplay than it was appreciated that they didn't make a bunch of changes in the sequels to fuck everything up. Chronicles fits in with this philosophy perfectly.

>>7848823

Swimming in the pool and killing half a dozen gorillas. Does life get any better bros?

>>7849485
>only half a dozen
try tr1gold m8

>>7849485

>>7849541
kek

>>7849096
Angel of Darkness is indeed shit

>>7847169
That's Boromir

>>7848956
If I recall one of his rants about it correctly, MEGA took down on their own the files the same day he uploaded them. Twice.

>>7849096
Chronicles is weak. Not bad, just simply meh.
As for AOD, depends on which version of it you have. The consensus is that if you have the Cenega or GOG release, you should be fine, even if the game itself is still flawed due to rushed release

>>7849264
>2021
>This level of fucking ignorance about AoD dev cycle
I mean we are 4 years after the big ass anniversary articles and this is /vr/, so what's your fucking excuse, you dumb fuck? Or this is just low-effort bait?

>>7849795
>This level of fucking ignorance about AoD dev cycle

What the fuck are you talking about? Get the stick out of your ass, anon.

>want to play TR1 on DOSBox
>have to use "vgaonly" otherwise the game resolution goes into 200x100 or something
>but this messes up the main menu
>want to play Tomb Raider 3 from original disc
>have to use a microsoft tool to force "simple windows" otherwise the thing will go in fullscreen but have a window border
>want to play Tomb Raider Chronicles
>have to do the above fix AND force compatibility for Windows 98, otherwise it will outright crash on boot
>but the level loading screens won't display
>you also need to alt-tab out and back in when it gets done loading otherwise it looks like it freezes
I don't remember having this much issues when playing these games when I was younger. Also I would love to know why out of all the games, Tomb Raider 2 has zero issues. Wanting to play the games from their original physical discs on modern systems is suffering.

>>7849823
Jesus dude, just emulate the PS1 versions.

>>7849826
I would, but fucking devs don't include the options to load games from physical discs anymore.

>>7849838
What the hell are you talking about? epsxe can load games from physical discs or .isos (and there is literally zero reason to be putting physical Playstation games into your PC when you could just download the game instead).

How significant are the differences between 1 and Anniversary?
Would you recommend someone who has played Anniversary to still play the original?

>>7849838
>I would, but fucking devs don't include the options to load games from physical discs anymore
Either download them or rip the iso yourself, damn. Muh CDs. Embarrassing boomer behavior.

>>7849889
Anniversary has some good levels and great ambience in some parts that are even better then the original game, but it still pales in comparison to the original overall. If you liked anniversary then definitely play the original, if anything it will make you appreciate the first game more.

>>7849889
Pretty big differences but also on the same levels gameplay is different anyway due to the new features from TR legend. Play both, it will be interesting to compare them anyway.

>>7849795
>wahhh you should like bad games because the devs had a hard time doing it
dont you have a resetera essay to post sheeple

>>7849901
Not him, but i am a bit confused here, isn't it usually the boomers who bring the knowledge and the zoomers who are eternally lost?

man the anniversary remake was good! I don't know if I can replay any of the OG ones on PS1 though now. I never beat them as a kid. maybe on pc they're better?

>>7821005
what are these fan games?

>>7850087
For sure.

>>7850115
Official add-ons

>>7849880
theres nothing down there

I hope this faggot is finally dead.

Getting The Thing flashbacks in this place

niggas how the fuck can you play any TR custom level on PC? I'm playing this
>http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3330
and cannot play it with my joystick . When I try using the keyboard, the screen rotates automatically (only while pressing the Alt key that is for jumping, and combined with the arrow keys or others)

>>7849996
The fuck you are even on?
My entire point is that AoD is finally playable for like a decade and in the same time, you have no excuse to making shit up about it.
It's like you never touched it since 2003 and then get surprised when people call you out.

>>7851625
The best part is that they've admitted years later that they didn't even know there is any such movie and were mostly aiming for At the Mountains of Madness. Then everyone and their dog bombarded Core with questions about a movie, so they've rented the tape just to know the fuck people are talking about.

>>7852397
>My entire point is that AoD is finally playable for like a decade and in the same time, you have no excuse to making shit up about it.

Learn how to speak English you fucking faggot.

>>7852364
I dunno I don't play custom levels anymore. I was getting tired of level creators making everything artificially difficult, way more then the original games ever were, and getting stuck constantly.

>>7851625
>>7852403
I don't buy that for a fucking second. They OBVIOUSLY ripped off the thing. The game is nothing like mountains of madness.

>>7849096
Kid me: No its cool and dark and makes me feel mature
Adult me: Its ok with some fixes to the controls, but it aged like milk on top of everything else, its considered a very dark moment in TR's clean slate history and very well nearly killed the entire franchise.
Worth playing for morbid curiosity but its really bad with very few redeemable qualities.

>>7852846
>I don't buy that for a fucking second
Yes, we all know how absolutely everyone must be familiar with specific work of fiction. Especially one that didn't became an actual "cult classic" AFTER the game was made and released. Or you are too young to actually remember how The Thing started being... a thing by the turn of millenium, thanks to big re-release of it on VHS, as opposed to almost forgotten first VHS release.
>The game is nothing like mountains of madness.
Read it then. Then tell anyone with straight face an ancient city hidden under the ice of Antarctica, with outworldly shit, connecting to other places on the planet and dangerous mutants, is nothing like Mountains of Madness.

>>7852941
You were an emo kid? Damn...

>>7853940
>Park is still in business
Noice

>>7853940
Is it just me or can you see her areolas through her top?

>>7854668
There were already 3 models in 1996?

>>7854760
i dont see it
>>7854668
based. Middle and right side Laras are waifu material

>>7853996
shut up, faggot
anybody who has seen the thing and read MoM knows they're just lying to protect themselves

>imagine the smell

>>7856442
Last Revelation is also my favorite. It's the most tomb raiding one.

>>7856442
sauce or you're gay

>>7856449
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-27-20-years-on-the-tomb-raider-story-told-by-the-people-who-were-there

>>7856471
ok, thanks heterochad anon

>>7856445
Everybody says this. It was too much for me, I couldnt enjoy it. I dont even like watching tartancroft play it on youtube. 3 was the best for me.

>>7856514
Haven't played it yet but I can see how a whole game set in a single setting could burn you out, I dislike the levels set in modern places but they do add variety.

i had a very scratched up tomb raider IV for the ps1 but it never worked past the first area.

was thinking about getting into the series by starting out with tomb raider 1 on the sega saturn, or should i stick with the playstation versions?

>>7856442
They should be proud of it indeed. The story almost completely centred around Egypt but they either did research or had actual archaeologists consultants. That game had a lot of autistic Egyptian stuff 90% of normies didn't even notice.

>>7856546
get better the ps1 version than the SS one

>>7856546
>i had a very scratched up tomb raider IV for the ps1 but it never worked past the first area.
pc

>>7856546
>was thinking about getting into the series by starting out with tomb raider 1 on the sega saturn, or should i stick with the playstation versions?

The Saturn version has a better draw distance and much nicer water effects. The Playstation version has a slightly better average framerate.

I prefer the Saturn version since the quads/triangles difference means the textures aren't as fucked up as they are on the Playstation, and I'd also recommend the Saturn version because its controller is better, but honestly outside of those differences its the same game. Play it on whichever console you have.

>>7856552
>get better the ps1 version than the SS one

Learn to speak English before you post again.

>>7856573

> Tomb Raider III
> Lara Croft, British citizen
> Travels to the Nevada desert
> Murders multiple civilians
> Gets captured by the army for infiltrating near Area 51, gets put in a holding cell
> Breaks free, lets a bunch of other prisoners free
> Prisoners proceed to beat several guards to death
> Finds weapons, murders dozens of military police
> Infiltrates Area 51, murders dozens of American soldiers
> Launches a rocket
> Steals an artifact
> Escapes
> Somehow this is never investigated or brought up again, even though she literally kills dozens of innocent American citizens

Tomb Raider III is retarded.

>>7856582
those civilians were a criminal gang, though this isn't explained in-game

as for killing soldiers in order to escape a life in prison, I'm not bothered by that but she went there on her own volition in the first place

>>7855223
There was an entire fuckload of models during first few months, because they were basically hired on principle of "get me 1-3 babes for the next convention". It didn't get formalised until Eidos marketing figured out how to run the campaign for the game and decided to turn "random model for one-off gig" to "fake it till you make it prestigious seat of official model".

>>7855662
>N-no, everyone is wrong!
>Including the original creators
>Only the voices in my head are correct
Unironically seek help

>>7856546
Go for PC, all the way through it. Emulate, if you absolutely must, but still stick to PC

>>7856582
Yet I'm gonna bet you will wholeheartly support the notion that Lara isn't a blood-thirsty psycho and doesn't enjoy killing, which is some sort of gross misrepresentation of vocal minority in the fandom... right?

>>7856742
Lara Croft kills four people in the first game, all of which are people who are actively helping someone who is trying to destroy human civilization, and who have attacked her first. The first time she fights one of those people, she doesn't even kill him, she just injures him and then knocks him out.

Tomb Raider is always at its best when it's Lara Croft exploring ancient ruins, with a heavy atmosphere of isolation, not traipsing through modern cities nonchalantly murdering hundreds of people. This is why TR1 and The Last Revelation are generally considered to be the best in the series.

>>7856789
aside from nevada (and even then its arguable), I dont think she kills anybody who doesnt deserve it

in 2 she kills mafia cultists
in london she kills evil mercenaries and mutant thugs

Anyway, I like 3 best because it gives a mix of dungeons, city, and outdoors. Outdoors levels are my favorite, but I enjoy the other two.

>>7856514
>hating the best
>liking the worst
Pathetic.

>>7856848
no u

>>7852403
One of the cutscenes in Antarctica actually makes a quick reference to a different movie too in regards to the mutant in >>7851625 as mentioned in this: https://tombraiders.net/stella/walks/TR3walk/cinematics-4.html#antarctica2

>>7856582
I guess she just kills all witnesses.

>>7833652
Five actually if you don't count Natla. Pierre, Larson, and the three goons in the mines. Also she can kill 273 humans in Tomb Raider 2 in total (excluding monks) according to this chart I found.

>>7843910
There are two people that use original discs for emulation; Liars and damn liars.

>>7852846
Though an interesting film and a genuine classic, The Thing wasn't that well-known and it got hit with bad reviews on release because of how gory and visually horrifying it was. It was very easy to overlook it nearly 20 years later. ET coming out the same month didn't do it any favors either.

>>7856824
>aside from nevada (and even then its arguable)
How exactly is murdering a bunch of innocent soldiers "arguable"?

can't wait for anon to playthrough the last revelations. this gonna take week at least. all these puzzles and secret areas. i remember being stuck in at least 3 moments and played that long before internet tuorials were available
that game fuucking rocks

>>7857168
Yeah I'm not buying it either, it got trashed by boomer critics but Carpenter was a big deal with horror fans and video clubs, the original produced by Hawks was also well known, X-Files was the biggest show of the mid 90's (probably also why TR3 had Area 51) and its first season had a Thing homage/ripoff episode, Extermination was released a couple years after and it was a Thing ripoff, the game adaptation a year after that, etc. Lara literally references The Fly so the devs knew their 80's gory creature horror. Also game development is a team effort, even if one dev denies the influence (source?), it's always possible it was a conscious influence for other devs. Capcom denied for years the influence of Alone in the Dark on RE because of legal reasons.

>>7857168
I saw it as a kid in the early 90s and it felt to me that most people knew it

>>7857184
soldiers are never innocent, anon
they hire up to kill people they dont know for reasons they can't personally confirm

>>7857245
>probably also why TR3 had Area 51
im gonna go with independence day

>>7857123
Was TRU an attempt to get back to the roots?

>>7857123
>That fucking spike with nuLara
Feels bad knowing she kills in a single game more people than in TR1-4 combined, and RotTR has more body bags than all Core era

>>7858070
Underworld is... weird. In a good way, but still weird. It's a combination of three different projects and ideas for the franchise coming together, breeding a game that tries to be all those three in the same time:
- linear progression of everything Legend set up: high pace, lots of action, lots of combat, continuation of the plot (something Core games never really did) and reappearing characters in the same plot as previous game... and generally, strong (for TR) emphasis on plot, rather than locations and escapism
- plans to "go back", but not to roots, instead to just general feeling Core-era games offered, based on feedback from older playerbase after Legend AND Anniversary
- Anniversary fucking things up royally, forcing Crystal to incorporate the game they never planned to have into their ongoing project, with half the manpower they were originally promised, since it got tied to Anni and then thrown at them with their ideas in the final stretch of development.
The result is the most Core of LAU games and in the same time the most non-Core of them, if it makes any sense. The kill-count is especially funny, because if you cut the two levels that consists of fighting Amanda's goons and nothing else, the count will go to 15 (could be lower, can't recall if there are any other encounters with humans other than the poachers in Mexico and a tiny outfit of mercs)

>>7857245
They had Area 51, because that was the most fantastical place they were able to think out in States, while Eidos marketing told them they should put at least part of the game in the US for better sales. It's really that simple.

>>7857335
>What is experience bias

This has got the most puzzling enemy fight to get through without taking any damage. Took some 20 minutes to figure it out.

This has got the most puzzling enemy fight to get through without taking any damage. Took some 20 minutes to figure it out.

>playing Tomb Raider 3
>it crashes
>it crashes my whole system along with it
>wiped out my save
>wiped out the game settings
>crashed the download program I was using and corrupted the files I was downloading
>couldn't even launch the game once my system got done rebooting itself
>had to re-install the game
This game is a pain in the ass even in real life.

>>7858619
>I am an incompetent idiot running a corrupt/haxed copy
>This is somehow game's fault
I hope your bank account is already cleaned

>>7858630
It's a completely valid, physical copy of the game that I got when it originally released, anon.

>>7824361
The only real differences are the ps1 version has darker lit non-static objects and the overall lighting has a lower contrast. The contrast can sort of be simulated with dgvoodoo, but it won't truly look the same.

Is there autosage already?

>>7859850
Shouldn't be. Still 3 days left

I couldn't help myself and download the Unfinished Business package for the PSX. This level was batshit insane. I love Egypt but this was way too much. Nearly burned myself playing through it despite enjoying the adventure.

I checked the stats against the ones provided in Stella's website and it seems I got 10 additional kills plus 7 more items? And I did not the items from the last secret (3 or 4 I think?) - Core Design can go suck a dick for filtering that one out so quickly for players taking a logical decision and missing it out with no chance of going back.

>>7860161
It's just was page 7 after some fresh reply, I guess /vr/ is just fast nowadays.

>>7860386
I think enemies respawned here in some segment. I didn't really like all these addons, maybe aside of tr3 lost artifact.

>love playing Tomb Raider on the lowest gamma setting
>but this makes it practically impossible to see anything on parts of levels
>game doesn't give you nearly enough flares
>turning gamma up all the way causes everything to become to bright and cartoony though
What is your preferred gamma setting? I leave it at '2' because it keeps the game dark but not too dark.

>>7861516
2 with dgvoodoo brightness adjusted to something like 150. I used to go with the default 3.

>People talking shit about AoD
>Meanwhile, in alternative reality

>>7863058
In an alternate reality Lara Croft is real and spends her downtime bouncing on my dick.

In other news I started playing through Chronicles for the first time. I'm up to the Ireland levels now. The Roman streets/colosseum levels felt like classic Tomb Raider, and I liked them a lot. The Russian warehouse was mediocre, and the Submarine levels sucked. The deep dive level was a cool idea, but it's way too short. It should have been much larger, and without the braindead AI enemy submarines. I know the game was thrown together by a bunch of devs who were overworked and completely burnt out by that point from making a new Tomb Raider game every year for five years, and it really feels like the sub levels seem to be where they just started not giving a shit.

Getting a hint of 16 year old Lara's tit in the cutscene for the Ireland level was a nice bit of fanservice, and the few minutes of what I played seemed pretty atmospheric (at least, as atmospheric as you can get when your entire level is made up of Tomb Raider blocks). I'll probably play some more tonight and see if I can finish the last two episodes.

Is this level supposed to be a joke?

>took a break from tomb raiding to follow e3
>just makes me depressed how pozzed gaming is now
ahhhhh take me back please

>>7863135
Rome and Ireland are supposed to be good but the other 2 look like shit

>>7863491
He said 10 years, not 22 years
Pic related is 10 years

... and I just realised Underworld was 12 years ago, while Tanya's kid is like 3 or something

>>7863135
Ireland is unironically the best part of Chronicles. If you will enjoy it, do yourself a favour and DO NOT play New York. If you won't enjoy it, then I guess no loss for you if you proceed with NY and finish the game.

>>7865737
Wow, she's a mommy now?

>go underwater
>rave party

Autosage?

>>7867329
yes, newfag