/vr/ - Retro Games

idk i don't think it matters honestly. i use some asus drive I got at best buy for like $40 years ago, it's pretty solid

Same as for any other cd console. Find the lowest write speed you can from a major brand. Dreamcast isn’t as picky as the PS1 though. Like, any of them should work, but FMVs don’t like being burnt at too high a speed.

>>7844206
The price you’d pay for a burner would be better spent for a GDEMU.

>>7844206
I would try to get one that supports slower than 16X write speed if possible. Dreamcast isn't too picky about how fast discs are written but if you ever wanted to burn Saturn games or something you'll need an exceptionally-slow write speed to burn them properly without getting audio skips and other garbage.

>>7844206
>burning dreamcast games?

It's fucking 2021 dude, mow some lawns and buy an ODE. You can get a chink gdemu clone for like a hundred bucks, and it's significantly better than playing games that had to have their cutscenes removed and their audio downsampled into fat noises so that a game designed to fit on a 1GB GD-ROM would fit on a 700MB CD-ROM.

>>7845072
The problem is that there are games bigger then cd-r. So sometimes you loose some music. Gdemu is the better option.

>>7845076
Can't you get the chink clones for like $40-$50 these days? Or are those missing something?

>>7845076
>hundred bucks
More like $40-$50

>>7845076
Its 2021 and any sort of kid friendly labor job is operated entirely by a company of people past middle age.

>>7845270
There’s a goofy kid with some sort of speech impediment driving around our high end suburbs in a golf cart and power washing driveways. That squirrelly little faggot is busting his tight horny anus all day every day, the American way, and earning enough to get fucked.

Manual labor will always be in demand, especially now that everyone has gotten fat and lazy.

>>7845319
Is he cute
Would fuck

>>7845319
Good for the little retard. I'd have to drive out of state to find somewhere an HOA isn't already doing that and everything else.

>>7844206
Back in the day, I used Plextor drives to burn Dreamcast games, but those were internal drives. I recently looked into getting a USB burner since computer cases don't come with optical drive bays anymore, and all I could find were ones from ASUS, LG, or cheap unknown Chinese brands. I suppose the technology is pretty much taken pretty close to the limit so any will do, just surprising Sony, Plextor, Pioneer, and BenQ bowed out first. In the end I settled for Buffalo, just only because of the looks. It has 2 USB cables in case of low power situations, and they tuck away nicely.

every answer that is not "gdemu" is wrong.

>>7847807
Holy fucking based!
Btw have you ever watched evangelion on a crt?

>>7847807
I bought a brand new Pioneer external burner not more than a year ago.

gdemu

>>7849105
I watched it when it aired on TV. That is how I learned about Sakura Taisen, since Sega was a sponsor of the show. I don't really like the show, just the characters like Ayanami, Asuka, Misato, etc. so I've not seen the movies and whatever came out after the 96/97 season airing. I enjoyed Escaflowne of the Sky a lot more which was a season or two after.

>>7849119
Looking at Newegg listings, you are right, I can still find Pioneer drives around too. I kind of respect that Pioneer supports their mediums to the end, like they did with Laserdiscs. The Pioneer portable BD drives are pretty handsome in design too. I see LiteOn is still kicking around as well, shame lightscribe didn't make it far.

>>7844206
Still blows my fucking mind that USB CD drives exist now. Nearly everything's got a USB cable and there's probably a USB TOASTER.

>>7849382
sorry about offtopic, but redpill me about sakura wars marblefag

>>7849105
>Btw have you ever watched evangelion on a crt?
Yes, when it aired on TV here in Europe and CRTs were normal TVs back then.

Do you people really not have a desktop computer with a disc drive?

>>7850558
I have one, haven't used it in the last 7 years

>>7850558
I know this is /vr/, but that sort of thing hasn't been standard for years now.

>>7850558
I dont have one. Everything is USB.

>>7849105
>Btw have you ever watched evangelion on a crt?
zoomers, man...

>>7850558
>desktop computer
ok boomer

>>7845015
>GDEMU
Should I be ok with a chink-made clone?

>>7850771
PC can include laptops as well, which most lack a disc drive. Remember netbooks? I loved playing WC3 on it!

>>7850834
Chink is ok, but nothing beats a MODE.

>>7850881
What's a MODE?

>>7850889
ODE from TerraOnion.

>>7844206
Doesn't matter. The "slower is better" meme is a myth. Any burner will work, just put it to max speed.
I find it astonishing that the myth even started and people fed into it since they got bad burns by going as slow as possible.

>>7850914
I’m glad not everyone here is retarded. Modern media is made for burning at high speeds. You will get more errors at lower speeds. The Dreamcast cannot tell the burning speed, it is not relevant. It’s the same 0s and 1s once they’re on the disc.

>>7845319
>that kid's dad owns both a power washer and golf cart

based retard anon

>>7851052
Based. Exactly correct.
Burning speed only matters to the creation speed of the media, for reading speeds, the drive speed itself matters.
Modern drives and media are made to be written at their rated speeds, not lower.

Yes, many of the confusion comes from times when CD burners were 2x or 4x or similar and you were supposed to burn at 2x or 4x (at the burners maximum speed), but since we now have 48x, for some reason the idea that slower = better stuck.

>>7850889
Overpriced product you don't need for the Dreamcast. Just go Chink and enjoy the games.

>>7849382
>>7850239
Thanks. I was just interested, sorry for my zoomerness.

>>7850903
I have a MODE in my Saturn, it's rad as hell.

>>7844206
Honestly for Dreamcast specifically avoid burned CDs

They can put pretty bad wear on the drive, depending on what you’re playing- and will also negatively effect gameplay in many cases

Large games have to be shrunk down by cutting texture/sound quality, discs aren’t always optimized loading can be slower and breaks games with seamless loading like crazy taxi (whenever the city can’t load underneath you fast enough, and you outrun the draw distance) etc etc
CDs generally spin faster than GD Roms, speeding up wear.

The thing about wear on the drive is a little overblown, it’ll probably be fine enough, but you’re doing yourself a disservice by living with the other drawbacks when a GD emu clone is like $30 and takes 10 minutes to install

>>7852121
Less that they spin faster, more that they have to seek more, because of both poor optimization and the fact that the DC laser pickup is kinda shit at reading burned discs all things considered, it tends to miss things the first few times

>>7852121
>GD emu clone
Don’t forget to remove the 12v from the PSU

>>7850881
>PC can include laptops as well, which most lack a disc drive. Remember netbooks? I loved playing WC3 on it!

>laptops
>netbooks
>WC3
like I said, OK boomer.

>>7852121
You can fragment ISOs before burning, same with PS2.

>>7852121
CD-Rs do not "generally" spin faster. They always spin slower. GDs read at 12x, CDs at 6x.Large games do get cut down - almost always from music or video. I have never heard of texture quality being cut. The vast majority of DC games don't need any kind of downsampling of assets done to fit to 700mb. Modern rips ARE optimized - usually either by talking the file sort order from the original disc or creating a new one. If you're using Echelon rips then yeah, it's going to be fucked because they didn't do that.