/vr/ - Retro Games

Once everything is set up how long does it take to go from cold boot to playing a game on a MiSTer?

>>7844983
7-15 seconds.

God fucking kill yourselves you will never play saturn and you don't deserve to either

>>7844960
at least try to spice things up with a new picture once in a while. Or did you throw your mister already in the trash?

PS1 when?

>>7845309
The project imploded so not happening for now.

>>7844960
Cringe thread

>>7845980
Cringe comment.

Jotego has announced today that he is switching to a new system of beta core distribution. From now all users of Update_All script will receive his beta cores. By default they are locked so you can't do anything with them except to watch the attract mode indefinitely. People with access to his Patreon can download a file and put it on their SD cards to unlock full functionality of beta cores.
So if you have downloaded leaked beta cores from a few threads ago and still use them — be careful with update scripts.

>>7845980
Based comment. No one really needs a MiSTer when we can do emulation via PC.

>>7846075
Just emulate on your smartphone lol

>>7846082
>touch controls
How about no

>>7846082
Nah. Smartphones aren't meant for gaming. Touch screen controls are garbage. Besides, my PC allows me to use USB controllers. I had recently bought a Sega Saturn-style USB controller, which works great for the PC version of Metal Gear Solid.

>>7846075
It's not about need, it's about choice. Obviously every MiSTer owner understands that there's a minimum viable on PC, mini-consoles, or android emulation. For the people who want something more out of it the MiSTer offers a different option.
Why does this buttblast you Pentium III shitters so badly? It's not like it's a zero sum game.

>>7846117
>It's not like it's a zero sum game.
It is when 2000 rupees is a years salary.

>>7846412
>It is when 2000 rupees is a years salary
Max kek

Apparently ElectronAsh is planning to do some experiments with CD-i. He has designed a board to connect its video chip to DE-10 Nano.

>>7846117
>>7846412
>>7846535
>samefagging
The only one butt-blasted here is you just because someone prefers emulating on a PC over owning a MiSTer. As for the mini-consoles, the only reason anyone ever gets those is because 1) it's modeled after the original consoles. 2) It's hackable. 3) comes with USB versions of the original controllers.

Never felt the need to buy a console mini though, I'm content with having an extremely powerful PC being my one and only gaming device.

>>7846610
How much did your PC cost?

>he retro games on serial processor

>>7846630
$4000

>>7846630
>>7846117

holy shit the exact same fucking comments as last time

>>7846769
Its the same as the guy with the "sega master system". Copy paste pictures with copy paste responses. No original thoughts.

>>7846769
Say what you want but these shitposters actually keep these threads alive by bumping up the reply count. Last two threads were relatively clean but they just slipped out the catalog before due date.

>>7844960
mouses*

>>7846886
Not him, but if you actually valued "shitposters" replies, you wouldn't report their comments like a bitch(hence why your last two threads were "clean" but inactive).

>>7847184
Did you enjoy your ban?

>>7847293
I enjoyed your tears every time I triggered you with the same screenshot.

sorry I can't find, is there any photos of the inside of the mister? it really looks just like a retropie from the outside

>>7847420

>>7847435
thanks, those are a lot of microchips

>>7847451
No problem. MiSTer is based around a commonly available FPGA board (Terasic DE-10 Nano) intended for educational use. Intel subsidizes it by taking a $200 hit per sold unit to promote FPGA programming among university students. This is exactly the reason why it was taken as a basis for this gaming/retro computing project as it is way cheaper than the alternatives.

>>7847472

PC-98 when?

So Jotego just implemented DRM on his cores, so much for the open nature of the MiSTer project and can't imagine Sorgelig is too happy about this payfag faggotry.

This shit always happen with patreon moneyfagging, people would actually lose money for completing their works instead of getting paid for offering a complete product like it works for fucking everybody else. It's a fundamentally fucked up joke of a commerce system, and we'll never see anything out of "beta" from Jotego ever again.

>>7847668
ao486 is utter garbage so I wouldn't expect much from a PC98 emulator.

>>7847472
>Intel subsidizes it by taking a $200 hit per sold unit
BULLshit

>>7848758
Versus the price to manufacture them you fucking brain cramp.

>>7848765
are you braindead or just buck-broken?

>>7844960
>Saturn soonish.
Well I'm convinced on not buying a MiSTer anytime soon. I will instead install an ODE. Plus I can hook it up to my CRT TV.

>>7844983
>>7844985
You can even add a setting in the ini file to boot straight into a specific core/game if you wish, it's literally a matter of seconds.

>>7848517
CPS1 and all his other cores are freely available after being Patreons only in beta. CPS2 will be too once it's ready for public release. He is working on them full-time so why shouldn't he give people the option of donating to him for early access prior to public release? Grow up and stop being an impatient, entitled commie dickhead.

>>7849923
>entitled
OK, so imagine if everyone that has contributed to the massive MAME project (that he pools from for free) had pulled a Jotego with their contributions with constant paid beta stages requiring online verification scripts. Can you start to see how this payfag behavior would be a problem?

But hey, since everyone likes to pay for everything imaginable let's report Jotego to Capcom and tell them this guy is asking money reverse engineering their systems with the intent of playing their games illegally and ask if they don't think they are entitled money from Jotego using their designs to getting paid, I mean it would only be fair right or is Jotego some kind of entitled commie not paying for others works?

Emulation is already operating in a gray zone of variable states of legality around the world with companies like Nintendo increasingly out after blood, and it's shit like this with money involved that will paint an even bigger target on game preservation's back and threaten everything because some faggots try to make buck of their derivative activities.

Game preservation needs to be free and open for it to stand a chance of not legislated and criminalized al together, everybody not a greedy nickle-and-dimeing faggot knows this, including Sorgelig and every other core dev on the MiSTer project.

>>7849923
>He is working on them full-time
lol really?
pffhaha.

>>7844960
>Saturn soonish.
Don't count on it MiSTer. The Sega Saturn emulators aren't even close to accurate and there's no way a MiSTer will even come close to being an accurate emulator for the Sega Saturn.

>>7846015
Pretty sure he did this because he was pissed of people getting his cores without being part of his patreon.

Personally I don't care, not a priority for me and I prefer to get the last version for my first play through anyway.

>>7846082
>touch screen gaming

>>7850049
>Game preservation needs to be free and open
https://github.com/jotego

Expect to see CPS2 there very soon.

>>7844960
Janny is still a triggered pedo and I don't give a damn if I do get banned. Triggering he/him makes me happy.

I see a very based janny has removed the troll and his low quality posts.

LOL

>>7844983
Takes me 5 seconds usually.

>>7850049
You sound like the type of person who stands alone at parties.

>>7849604
>Well I'm convinced on not buying a MiSTer anytime soon. I will instead install an ODE. Plus I can hook it up to my CRT TV.
What?
>Saturn is coming soon
>THEN I'M NOT GETTING ONE!
You can also hook up a mister to a crt and it's trivial, but go off my man.

>>7848517
quit being such a whiny bitch sentient6.

nothing has changed from today to yesterday.

>>7853163
God that sentient 6 is an insufferable fucking twat

>>7851686
I'm glad I don't have to stand alone at parties anymore.

>>7852251
>Soonish
Translation: 2 years or later

>What?
I'm not the type to want to WAIT forever to play my game systems when I can do that RIGHT NOW.

>You can also hook up a mister to a crt
I have my Sega Saturn currently hooked up to my HDTV, but I also have an AV cable that will allow me to play light gun games on my CRT, so I'm getting the best of both worlds with my Sega Saturn. Installing an ODE will make it possible to play any rom I want without having to use a disc. So it looks like I will be fine without a MiSTer, mister.

>I have my larp currently hooked up to my larp, but I also have an larp that will allow me to larp on my larp, so I'm getting the best of both larps with my larp. Installing a larp will make it possible to play any larp I want without having to use a larp. So it looks like I will be larp without a MiSTer, mister.

Look, what I've found.
https://twitter.com/jtkeygetterscr1

>>7853854
>uploaded on archive.org
KEK peak pottery

>>7853854
Cringe.

>>7847472
>Intel subsidizes it by taking a $200 hit per sold unit to promote FPGA programming among university students.
>gets scalped by fat neets instead

>>7854648
I suspect this factored into the decision to raise the price.

WonderSwan is out.

>I have my Sega Saturn currently hooked up to my HDTV, but I also have an AV cable that will allow me to play light gun games on my CRT
Cool. You know this is technically possible and feasible with the mister as well too, right?
>so I'm getting the best of both worlds with my Sega Saturn. Installing an ODE will make it possible to play any rom I want without having to use a disc. So it looks like I will be fine without a MiSTer, mister.
Whatever floats your boat dude. I also have high end pvms with rgb cables for my saturn and the Saturn lightgun so I can occasionally play virtua cop whenever I get in the mood once every nine months. Nobody gives a shit about console warrior posting in here. If the device is not suitable for your needs then leave the thread instead of smug-posting misinformed falsehoods.

>>7853634
>I have my Sega Saturn currently hooked up to my HDTV, but I also have an AV cable that will allow me to play light gun games on my CRT
Cool. You know this is technically possible and feasible with the mister as well too, right?
>so I'm getting the best of both worlds with my Sega Saturn. Installing an ODE will make it possible to play any rom I want without having to use a disc. So it looks like I will be fine without a MiSTer, mister.
Whatever floats your boat dude. I also have high end pvms with rgb cables for my saturn and the Saturn lightgun so I can occasionally play virtua cop whenever I get in the mood once every nine months. Nobody gives a shit about console warrior posting in here. If the device is not suitable for your needs then leave the thread instead of smug-posting misinformed falsehoods.

>>7854702
Terasic raised the price becuase of supply chain constraints, nothing to do with Intel or the subsidy.

>>7855340
Can some kind anon upload the bootrom files for WS/WSC? I can't find them anywhere.

>>7855474
Near the bottom:
https://archive.org/download/nointrowonderswancolorbandaii

>Wonder Swan
I've heard of this before but never actually seen any of the games. Shit's crazy, the color version has graphics that make it look like a portable PS1.

>>7855448
Let's see here...

>Buy an emulation box that only plays up to 4th gen consoles and has a hard time finishing their other "cores" despite claiming that the MiSTer is not "software emulation", it's "hardware emulation", which is suppose to be 100% accurate with FPGA technology.

Or...

>Play my Sega Saturn now, with an installed ODE and play any game I want.

I think the second option is way better. No "misinformed falsehoods" here. Just you getting triggered over the truth being told.

is the no lag excuse to have the mister true or just a meme? i didn't see any input lag test/comparison

>>7856190
It's a meme.

>>7856005
Don't worry, I know exactly which schizo thread resident you are, you all type in distinct ways and go over the same old points. Have a nice day my dude.

>>7856005
>Buy an emulation box that only plays up to 4th gen consoles
Either way you're probably spending more money on collecting all the retro consoles that you want, getting decent cables that aren't composhit, all the accessories that you want in GOOD condition, as decades old ABS plastics become brittle or yellowed, etc.

Never mind finding a CRT, or wanting to hook up your retro consoles to a digital display without it looking like complete shit. If you've already had all these consoles, accessories and an old crt lying around, then that's a great start. But don't act like getting into the act of wanting to play a variety of retro consoles on actual hardware these days is anything but an expensive nightmare.

I've spent the last 7 years collecting consoles piece by piece. Anyone in this thread can tell you that even going for a basic experience is going to break the bank at this point. The utility you get out of something like the mister + the cost of ram far outweighs the cost of collecting actual hardware if you're an enthusiast. The argument of
>IT ONLY PLAYS UP TO 4TH GEN IT'S USELESS
is just so piss poor.

>7856439
>Wah wah, stop posting things I disagree with.

>>7856481
LOL It didn't cost me much to buy these consoles, they were mostly dirt cheap before collecting became a thing. For example I bought an original Xbox for $50(the Xbox 360 was out at the time). Bought a used model 1 Sega Genesis for $25. In 2017, I bought a used Sega Master System for $60 bucks from Facebook marketplace, which included games and accessories. I even managed to make my money back by selling King's Quest for $90 and Montezuma's Revenge for $80 on eBay. They were the most valuable games I had complete in box when I bought the Sega Master System. None of these consoles are "brittle" yet. Also these consoles can be deyellowed, which I have already done with my Sega Dreamcast and Super Famicom, it looks nice and new by the time I was done with it.

I got a 36 inch Sony Trinitron for free. I had to get help carrying that into my truck, as well as unloading it into my house.

Anyways 2017 was the year I completed my console collection, the Sega Master System was the last one I needed. The only thing that would have been expensive for me is to buy physical games that are extremely rare that I hadn't owned already. Luckily I bought Batman Forever The Arcade Game(PS1 version), Splatterhouse(Windows PC) and Evil Dead(Dreamcast) when it was cheap. Now these games sell quite expensively on eBay.

The fact that the MiSTer can't emulate PS1, Saturn, N64 or Dreamcast is enough reason for me to not buy a MiSTer. So no, it's not a piss poor argument, it's a valid argument.

>>7856586
>The fact that the MiSTer can't emulate PS1, Saturn, N64 or Dreamcast is enough reason for me to not buy a MiSTer. So no, it's not a piss poor argument, it's a valid argument.
It really isn't. What if you have a playstation 1 but just learned that the playstation 2 is about to release and that you cannot play the new playstation 2 games on your playstation 1? you accept that technology moves and you buy the new platform because of what it offers. What if you want if you want to buy a cheap pc so you can emulate ps2 games at a decent speed? A raspberry pi won't cut it, a $200-400 pc or laptop might, but that doesn't change the fact that PS2 emulation is still far from perfect on X86 platforms and that you're going to need a more capable pc to brute force it. No worries, you spend however much you are willing to spend.
Even if it did do 5th gen, you fuckers would complain that it doesn't do 6th gen as if sixth gen isn't only JUST starting to become stable on X86 platforms now, in the year of our lord 2021. You've given your choice and that's respectable. What I find laughable is just how much time you continue to spend letting people know how much you aren't going to buy something. It's really pathetic.

wonderswan killed archive.org

>>7856190
It's true. It's a parallel processor, not serial.

>>7856005
Good man. MiSTer is anoter option for playing games, if it doesn't fit in your needs then that's up to you.

Why is it every single thread about MisterFPGA turns into this ridiculous shitstorm of people arguing about whether to get one or not? Just go on your merry way if you don't like the FPGA, on the flipside stop responding to the bait and "defending" MisterFPGA. Nobody learns anything from that type of bullshit. Either discuss fpga or sod off.

>>7853854
So where to get the CPS-2 roms? Does update_all script get them?

>>7856715
No, what's pathetic is how much time you spend defending MiSTer FPGA rather than agreeing to disagree and move on. I mean damn if I wanted to emulate Arcade games, 4th gen games, and below, I got my PC to do that with. What's harder to emulate is 5th and 6th gen consoles. PC can do it, maybe not perfectly, but it can do it. I still use original consoles just to play 5th and 6th gen consoles without dealing with the confusing nonsense of configuring the emulation for something like the N64. My PC should be able to emulate N64, but the emulators for it just doesn't work. Which is why I still use my N64 to play games with. We have yet to have an FPGA device that can go beyond 2D gaming and no one seems to want to build an FPGA console that plays Sega Saturn, N64, Dreamcast or PS1 games. Probably because it would be too pricey to market or trying to emulate these consoles to perfection just doesn't seem to work.

>>7856870
Thank you. And I agree. I think it's cool that you like the MiSTer and use it to play games with. I wish more responses were like yours.

>>7848529
>ao486 is utter garbage
huh

>>7844960
>$500 to get a Mister
>$100 for a Pi400
>$0 for the computer I already own

>>7857501
Yup, PC's are the best.

>>7857501
>>$500 to get a Mister

>>7857524
>he doesn't know

>>7857012
>Does update_all script get them?
Yes.

>>7856864
?

>>7857524
>105
check the current price, m8

>>7858104
CPS 2 is not public yet, it will not download the mra files unless you have the rbf files.

>>7858361
Anon asked about roms, not mra's. Update_all will download CPS2 roms.

>>7848880
They somehow think their FPGA is magically hardware accurate, you're talking to a brainlet
Software on x86 can be just as accurate it just has more overhead, but good luck explaining it to these mongoloids. I say this as an embedded hardware developer, none of these people actually know how fpgas work they just fell for some marketing bullshit.

>>7855340
Turns out a Saturn/Genesis 6-button pad is perfect for WonderSwan. I mapped Swan's AB to Saturn's CZ and the second Dpad to ABXY. This way I can play horizontal games with outer buttons and vertical games with inner buttons. Neat.

For anyone waiting, I think the metal passively-cooled cases are coming back in stock in a few days.

Not sure whether or not to grab one; they're very handsome and silver would go great with my retro setup, but I've noticed with my acrylic case I can't eject the microSD card for when I'm adding new ROMs and I'd be spending a hundred bucks to continue having the same problem.

>>7858410
>Software on x86 can be just as accurate
Yes, unless you have unlimited computing time to keep up with the required speed
>I say this as an embedded hardware developer
I'll guess you are one of those people who say: "Nah fuck this, soft PWM is as good as Hardware PWM who cares about jitter" "Nah DMA is to complicated lets just bit bang that shit over the GPIO's" ...
It looks like strict timing requirements in bigger systems are not part of your larp job

>>7858543
That guy probably copy/pasted some github code onto an Arduino to control an LED strip and is calling himself an embedded developer lol

>>7858410
Exactly. I think only fools fell for the FPGA scam.

>>7856190
The best it can do is zero lag compared to original hardware. Software with run-ahead can often do better.

Also, I would like my IP range banned again so fewer of my neighbors can use this site I want gone.

>>7858410
Many seem to think it's recreations of the actual chips rather than reverse engineered approximations of their functionality.

I will re-initialize (I don't say "boot" because that term is problematic) my router and spam ponies until I get a range ban because I want fewer people using this site.

If I enable beta core in the update all script for Jotego, exactly which core will I get ? CPS 0, 1 and 1.5 are already stable cores final release, CPS2 is not public yet same for system 16... so what will I get ?

>>7859753
Enabling beta option will add System 16 core to download list. CPS2 core is currently not distributed through scripts. Everything else is public.

>>7844960
shill

>>7859787
Ok thanks, I first saw a tweet from Jotego that said we should enable beta core in the the script, later he advised to wait until they tested this thoroughly.

In the end I guess is not worth enabling right now.

>>7859976
At the moment it's not really worth the hassle, currently there are only four games and they have some visible glitches.
It may change in the future though. Apparently Jotego used his Patreon bucks to hire a second person to write cores for him. So we will probably see an increased rate of work from the Spanish Secessionist.

So, I want to do something stupid and crazy, and try to let my MiSTer double as a multimedia machine. What core could I do this with?
I don't care what codecs I'd have to play video/audio with, as long as I can encode them via ffmpeg.
I tried this with Windows 95 on ao486, but I wasn't able to install the oldest version of K-Lite I could find, nor could I figure out how to encode anything such that the default Windows 95 codecs could play it.

>>7860420
At this point you may as well use a PC.

>>7860420
If you want to pipe 240p/480i video to a CRT just use a hacked Wii.
If you want to play videos on TV that accepts HDMI just buy a cheap android box.

What you're trying to do is retarded.

why does mister only support usb controllers?

>>7860552
I'm sorry your parallel port controllers from the 90s don't work anon.

How much power does mister use?

>>7860713
I tried a few cores and mine uses about 6 watts.

>>7857015
>My psychosis wont not lemme get the last word!

totally got em bro, please continue to display that autism. not any of the guys you were talking to btw, just had to comment on your lil pp energy.

>>7860552
Honestly it's not that bad.

>>7860552
As opposed to?
If you want to use original controllers you can get a SNAC board or something like a raphnet adapter, or buy a dongle for Bluetooth controllers. Is there an alternative I'm missing here?

>>7850049
It's funny how you think someone getting paid for their work makes any real difference on if faggot companies go after them or not.

I mean, you'd think guys like Kevtris would already be in jail, given he's worked on a bunch of completely illegal closed down clone consoles.

Patreon is scam city, and I don't expect much out of Jotego when he can just coast by on donations and put in a bit of work every couple of months to keep retards hanging on. But then I don't care much about shitty fightan games. As long as he's still releasing shit for free eventually, who cares?

>>7850049
>>7861307

>completely illegal closed down clone consoles
>illegal

Imagine arguing about expired hardware patents

>>7860552
GET a SNAC adapter for your controller of choice. The plug looks like a USB 3 port but it's actually just a bunch of GPIO pins wired to it

Crossing my fingers that CPS3 doesn't get developed by Jotego, the main SH2 chip will get figured out with the Saturn core so hopefully that means srg or someone close to him does it instead

This old Radioshack PSX to USB adapter working was a pleasant surprise. I have fast polling turned on but no idea what the latency is.

Wonderswan core is pretty cool.
Any good fan translated titles, or fun games that only require enough Japanese for menu navigation?

>>7863829
Play Dicing Knight. . It got a fan translation a decade ago.

>>7864612
Will look into it.
Thanks.

Why is there no RCA Studio II core? There are several HDL implementations of RCA 1802 processor available alongside a full COSMAC ELF recreation. Someone totally could use them to get this second gen console core rolling.

>>7861021
SNAC is shit, as far as I can tell it requires you to use the original controller for each system you want to emulate.
USB is unacceptable. The fact that MiSter uses that shit as standard ruins my confidence in the whole project.
What MiSter should support is using one original controller for multiple consoles. I am pretty fond of the sega saturn controller, I should be able to use that for everything.

>>7867525
>>SNAC is shit, as far as I can tell it requires you to use the original controller for each system you want to emulate.
I mean, that's the whole point, it's a direct interface.

>USB is unacceptable. The fact that MiSter uses that shit as standard ruins my confidence in the whole project.
Is 1000hz polling too slow for you? You know most early consoles only poll the state once per frame, right?

>I am pretty fond of the sega saturn controller, I should be able to use that for everything.
Then you can buy a magical USB adapter for it.

>>7867560
>Is 1000hz polling too slow for you? You know most early consoles only poll the state once per frame, right?

Or in other words ~16 times per frame

>What MiSter should support is using one original controller for multiple consoles. I am pretty fond of the sega saturn controller, I should be able to use that for everything.

Not impossible, but it would break the compatibility with other devices that use the IO port.

>>7867560
> it's a direct interface
Yes but that is no good, you cannot have like several hundred original controllers and keep swapping between them. Its bullshit that the only option is original controller or USB. What I want is a layer that translates the controller interface so that one wired controller can be used with multiple systems. For many console-controller combinations that translation would be 100% synchronous introducing zero additional lag.

> Is 1000hz polling too slow for you
Yes, the only acceptable polling is synchronous. When the game code asks for the controller state, the hardware should return the exact controller state at that instant of time.

>>7867606
>you cannot have like several hundred original controllers and keep swapping between them.
How many systems do you think MiSTer supports, dude? And you don't need the original controller for every system, you can just use a USB one.

>>7867606
>the hardware should return the exact controller state at that instant of time.
So you're terrified that a controller could potentially take an input from, what, 1/16th of a frame earlier in a worst case example? How fast are your fingers, man?

Wait until you realise most controllers don't even have enough wires for every button. I wonder how they organise them all? I sure hope the NES doesn't use an inherently laggy solution like serialised polling or something!

>>7867606
BlisSTer should be the device you are looking for, but it requires afaik a fork of the MiSTer project.

To be honest, I had a similar opinion about the USB game pad "problem" but if you break it down the Chance you miss an input is in the sub ms region (if your game pad support 1ms polling)

SNAC is a nice addition for light guns.

>>7867620
> USB
I would rather ram a soldering iron down my urethra

> inherently laggy solution like serialised polling or something
It takes the nes less than 0.1 ms to read the controller.
And for the genesis, the controller can be read in less than 0.01ms

>It takes the nes less than 0.1 ms to read the controller.
Yeah and it takes your eyes/brain and the motor neurons in your hand probably ~200ms to read the screen and react to it.

Getting a same-frame input >90% of the time with a quality USB adapter in 4ms mode is more than good enough if you're not speedrunning.
And if you -are- speedrunning, your times aren't worth shit unless they're on original hardware anyway so it's a moot point.

>>7867525
They make USB Saturn controllers.

>>7867762
yes, but I don't want to use shitty USB. I want to use a real hard wired Saturn controller. I am going to make the changes myself when I get around to it.

Its a real shame FPGA tools are so shitty. There is not enough FPGA space to implement all the various possible options all at once, but if the code could be built on the user side, that would allow building custom cores based on user preferences.

>>7867906
>I want to use a real hard wired Saturn controller
Gee MiSTer, you have some serious mental issues. Were you diagnosed with autism or something? The USB Sega Saturn controller seems fine to me, I even swapped out the shell of my old Sega Saturn controller and attached it to my USB Sega Saturn controller, since I prefer a white controller over a black or transparent one.

Senpai has noticed the project.

>>7867906
This level of autism is absolutely crippling. You don't want to play games, you just want to minmax gearfag around and move the goalposts back as far as they'll go.

And also Sega made first party Saturn USB controllers if your autism levels are that far off the charts. Your vague use of "this is shitty, that is shitty" obviously just means that no matter what solution is presented to your sperglord complaints you're just gonna come up with some pointlessly vague retort because you're more interested in bitching than gaming.

>>7868034
2-4 are pretty much common sense
I'm not surprised that a bunch of tards would break there de-10 nano doing dumb shit like that.

>>7868008
>>7868049
> Autism
Maybe.
Anyway I hate USB to the very core of my being. I find USB offensive in the way a Muslim would find bacon on a Quran offensive. USB should not exist, and I will not tolerate using it. If one were to accept USB why bother with FPGA anyway, at that point emulator is good enough.

>>7868146
based. dont worry though, all mister owners are autists. you are far more admirable than them though for admitting that USB is indeed shit.

>>7868156
>>7868146
>autism tells me to hate a thing
>facts tell me that hate is unfounded
>autism tells me to ignore the facts

>>7868164
Kill yourself usb drone

>>7868171
You know being pointlessly contrarian doesn't make you interesting, right? You're just an insufferable piece of shit who's incapable of enjoying anything for the fear that you're not the only one.

>>7868164
One objective issue with USB is its an unverifiable black box. Lets say you get a USB device which is said to have reliable 1ms latency, you have no way to personally validate that, and because USB is so complex there is no way to know if its behavior will always be consistent.

One thing which draws me to FPGA is the guaranteed objectively verified performance. I don't have to second guess anything, I know that there is no hidden unexpected latency. This is the same reason why I hate all display tech other than CRT, with the CRT there is a 100% guarantee that the latency of the device is 0 and it will never be anything else unexpectedly.

>>7868324
then play on original hardware faggot
there's no lag with USB on mister.

>>7868146
>hating on USB
USB controllers are way more convenient than trying to find converters for each console controller, which still requires a USB connection anyways and unfortunately for you, a MiSTer will always need a USB port to hook up your favorite devices.

>>7868171
You first inputlet

>>7860552
USBchads win again.

>>7868397
I do not propose having a different controller for each console. I want just one controller, but I want that controller to not be using USB. USB is not the entire universe.

It would only take a handful of logic elements to implement a basic protocol converter. The Sega Saturn controller is the perfect candidate for a universal controller, its got enough buttons, and its interface its simple and fast. I don't know how fast you can get away with polling a Saturn controller, but 250khz+ is conceivably possible unless the multiplexer is horrifically slow.

>>7868546
So what are you waiting for? Get your soldering iron out and build it. You'll make millions of dollars and people will name their first born after you. You do have a soldering iron, right?

>>7868324
Started to write a long post where I explained the whole deal with USB, but because I'm drunk, I'm not going to finish it.

Here is my try for a TL;DR:
- I can understand your point of view
- Shift registers and lathes are way easier and direct and are clearly the better way (direct access trough game port)
- "unverifiable black box" half true half false
- On silicon level, every device need to be compliant to work, so nearly all are "perfect"
- The main problem is the firmware of such devices (In many cases not even compliant with USB)
- Interrupt based devices (like game pads) can and must guarantee to serve the data in a time frame (look up USB descriptor)
- The part that I personally don't trust is the kernel of the OS that handles the data (Windows would be in this case a nightmare)
- But in the end it doesn't really matter because those tasks are typically handled in kernel space and only get exposed on the last step to the user space (TL;DR it takes longer to poll the data from the firmware of the USB device than its handled on the ARM SoC of the MiSTer)
- So the USB game pad data state is still (if the poll rate is 1ms and USB2.0 even allows 0.25ms polling) updated nearly 15 to 16 times per frame in the worst case you are gonna miss an input in the sub millisecond range (if 1ms polling apply).

Pro tip: You can read out the descriptor of a USB device if you need to satisfy your autism.
I totally agree with your point of view, but even I had to cope with the fact that sub 1ms don't really matter. (But I'm still paranoid enough to build and write the firmware for my own game pad to USB adapters)

Why should you trust me? Well, It's up to you, but my bachelor thesis included building a USB HID device and I read a huge chunk of the Universal Serial Bus Specification (for USB2.0) to implement my firmware.

And I must admit even the 8bitdo 2.4ghz controller which I even trust less are not that bad... -> Maxed out here the max post size

>>7868587
Ok you seem to know about USB so here is a question. What the hell are the frames for, everything I have read about USB seems to be pretty well implemented and decent, except for the frames that is where is turns to shit. Why does it need frames, why can't the host send data whenever, why does it need to be aligned to frame.

>>7868546
USB has been around for decades, it is a necessity in every device we use.

>>7868647
Okay, I try my best. (Sorry for my not so perfect English, and it's kinda hard to sum up the USB topic in a few words)
USB uses one differential pair of wires for the communication, so only one can talk at the time.
There is only one Host per bus and every communication is initiated by the Host.

(This is very simplified!)
When you plug in your game pad to the port, the Host detects your game pad and sends him his unique address.
The Host can now start to ask the game pad (over the address) for the descriptors of the game pad that describes the
properties of the game pad (What kind of device are you, how often can I ask for new data, what buttons do you have, ...)
After the setup the host knows how often the game pad can be polled and what the single bits of the data stream means. (like the second bit is the state of the up button).
Now the Host have to ask the game pad with a bounded latency if the device has new data or needs "urgent attention".
...

I quit at this point to explain the frame situation.

For every interaction with any device, the Host sends a message to a device like:
(First Frame Host to Device)"Hey game pad I want to send you your unique address"
(Second Frame Host to Device)"Your address is xxx"
(Third Frame Device to Host)"I receved the Data, everything is fine"

in the second step, the communication would be like:
(First Frame Host to Device)"Hey device with the unique address xxx send me your descriptor"
(Second Frame Device to Host)"Here is my descriptor"
(Third Frame Host to Device)"I receved the Data, everything is fine"

in the third step, the communication would be like:
(First Frame Host to Device)"Hey device with the unique address xxx do you have new data?"
(Second Frame Device to Host)"Yes! Here is my new data"
(Third Frame Host to Device)"I receved the Data, everything is fine"

and so on ...

>>7868647
>>7868875

It's really hard to explain this drunk in a few words, but trust me, the latency is more or less even.
I know USB sound cards uses isochronous transfer mode, but if they had latency issues, you would notice it pretty fast.

If you want to dive deeper in the USB 2.0 topic, I can recommend this site https://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb1.shtml it helped me to get started with my bachelor thesis.
I hope my explanation is kinda useful.
At least I tried.

>>7868880
Whist I was waiting I went and downloaded the specs for a USB1 host controller. So I now understand the problem and it makes my blood boil. So my understanding is, usb is actually a pretty decent standard, except for one single thing which completely fucks the whole thing up. The USB controller makes it impossible to start any transaction with less than frame granularity.

If that stupid frame bullshit was not there then, if I understand correctly it would be possible to get sub 10μ latency with USB 1.1, or 200ns latency with USB2.0. 10μ latency would have permitted synchronously polled game pads in software, and with USB 2.0 200ns is fast enough for synchronously polled game pads in for MiSter. I hope the designers of USB burn in hell.

can someone explain to me why what's the difference between emulatingo n a MiSTer vs a pi ?

>>7868996
You need some new material.

>>7868976
What did you expect? USB is a bidirectional Bus system with addresses. That's the reason why you can use a hub and plug in many device types.

A unique USB 2.0 full-speed device can be polled every 1ms.
A unique USB 2.0 high-speed device can be polled every 125µs.

Is this enough for lightens? Maybe with some luck with the high-speed variant, but I wouldn't bet on this.
Is it enough for a gamepad? I would say 100% yes.

To be honest, the nes/snes controller polling isn't much faster.

>>7868996
Yes.

>>7868976
And before I forget it, the USB2.0 spec are from April 27, 2000
USB1.1 is kinda dead. The only device that I own that has only USB 1.1 available is my PS2.

Game logic polls per frame. Who gives a shit if the controller polls more often than that? And it's already polling so many more times than that, it's not really possible to even get frame-late inputs. This really just sounds like people obsessing over pointless numbers.

>>7869137
Game logic polls once per frame, and on real hardware it gets the exact state of the controller at that very instant in time at which it polls.

Asynchronous polling, adds an additional which is at worst case equal to the polling speed. So a 1000hz polling game pad adds 1ms of latency. Which is not very much, but its imperfect, why bother with FPGA at all if you will settle for imperfect, software emulation is good enough.

>>7869279
>tell us how you don’t know what you’re talking about in 100 words or less anon

>>7869279
1000 > 60
What's the problem again? Autism? It must have been autism.

>>7868996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt3WyfMffX0#t=30m14s

>>7869394
so there's basicly no reason to get a fpga over a pi except posting on a japanese image board to tell others that you spent way too much money to play donkey kong country.

>>7869604
>Can someone spoonfeed this to me?
>Here you go, here's a summary of what it is, how it works, and why it's another worthwhile way of doing something.
>NNNOOOOOOOOO THAT GOES AGAINST MY PRECONCEPTIONS
If it's not for you, leave the thread.

>>7869604
Indeed. Heck, just emulating on the PC would be enough. The MiSTer was never necessary.

>>7869279
There is still the user IO port. Arguing about that you can use a genesis controller on all cores is like arguing that you can't just plug in your genesis controller in your SNES. It's not impossible, but as mentioned it would break the compatibility of other user io devices.

>>7869279
Do you not know how long a frame is? Right, so the SNES or whatever polls every 16ms. Let's assume an absolute worst case scenario, which is that the system is polling a fucking nanosecond before the next USB poll. This means that in a worst case scenario, your inputs are being taken from slightly under 1ms earlier.

Now, let's also bear in mind that 20hz is about the limit of human tapping. That's not actual conscious input either, just mashing. If you want to switch from 1 side of the D-pad to the other, you're looking at 200ms at an absolute best case scenario, assuming you've already reacted. And you're here sperging out about sub-1ms. Hell, CRTs themselves have half a frame of input lag because of they way they draw the screen.

Legitimately, if you think this number matters, modify your own cores. But I'm pretty sure interpreting the Saturn pad standard and converting it to something the SNES can process in your own little mini-core that goes between the user port and the system's input lines isn't going to make any appreciable difference.

>Saturn soonish

I'm not falling for Jewish tricks!

t. not falling for Jewish tricks

>>7870208
Basic software emulation is usually enough for most people. I have never had any issues with emulation. If what you had to start with was had not perceptible issues, then how can you choose some arbitrary threshold of better if you cannot tell the difference, the only valid target is 100% perfect.

>>7870231
If that's your argument, then MiSTer is already dogshit. After all, it doesn't properly reproduce seek times in CD based systems. For that matter, all ODEs are worthless because they deliver better than original performance when it comes to load times.

Personally, I don't think it should be legal to play C64 games without a tape deck. If you haven't spent 5 minutes waiting for a game to load, you aren't really playing it as intended.

If you don't want to deal with 1ms of theoretical latency, you don't have to, SNAC exists. But if you want to use a different controller to one that actually supported the console to begin with? Well, then you're not really looking for a perfect reproduction, are you?

This friday Jotego will release the final beta version of CPS2 games and after testing a bit it will go public.

>>7868996
Latency is extremely better than pi and accuracy is almost 1:1 to original hardware

>C1541: initial support for G64 images (only basic support, don't expect protected disks to work now!).
We are getting closer to proper original disk dump support, C64 bros.

>>7869648
That's not what he said, shill.

>>7870935
Nobody's trying to sell you on anything. We just want you to fucking leave and take your insufferable contrarian argumentative bullshit with you.

>>7868976
Here is the anon from yesterday.
Found this random video that may interest you.
At least the last part of it.
https://youtu.be/wdgULBpRoXk?t=1766

>>7869648
the first thing the guy said in the video linked is most people won't see any differences.
I understand the fun of using a FPGA and thinkering with stuff, I do that all the time. but there's no advantage in getting a FPGA over emulating on a normal computer.

>>7871138
There is an advantage, as stated in the video. FPGA can get same latency as real hardware, since it behaves the same as a console. But it's mostly only perceivable if you're basically an autist. If you thinker with RetroArch and configure it appropriately it can get so close to a MiSTer that it probably doesn't matter for 99% of people.

But that's Retroarch, any other emulator setup is trash comparatively.

>>7869604
It's an enthusiast thing that's for sure, the advantages are there but you have to decide if the cost associated to it is worth it for you or not. For most people it won't be and that's fine.

FPGA is a new thing and it's implications for preservation are pretty dope. Besides just replicating consoles, it's being used in flashcarts to replicate stuff like special chips, and hardware addons like the PC-Engine CD addon, etc. Not to mention ODEs. Who knows what can happen with the tech 10 to 20 years from now.

>>7871325
>>7871341
Don't you see!? There's no middle ground between minimum viable Pentium III emulation from 1998 and femtosecond accurate perfection. You can't have anything in-between. And even if something could possibly fulfil these impossible requirements if any component isn't identical to the original, such as a USB interface, it's also trash. Also preferably you should be using period accurate electricity to power such a mythical device as well, otherwise it's shit.

>>7871359
No one in 2021 owns a Pentium III.

>>7871450
Is your reading comprehension this bad or is this intentional deflection?

>buy $40 VGA-SVideo/Composite adapter from the spaniard
>wait weeks for shipping
>arrives
>doesn't work on my CRT
>get a $20 chinkshit HDMI-Svideo/Composit adapter from amazon
>works flawlessly
>don't even notice input lag
WHAT THE FUCK MAN

>>7871359
Unless you invent a time machine to go back to the past and play games in an accurate time period it's not accurate. Our atmosphere is different than it was in the 80's and this affects games in the attoseconds.

>>7871479
>doesn't work on my CRT
What the fuck how.

>>7871626
No idea. I get some thin white horizontal lines flickering every second or so, and that's it.
If anyone wants me to try to record it if they think they can diagnose it then I will.

>>7871701
Did you set the power jumper for the VGA port...

>>7871614
No living human can perceive attoseconds.

>>7871614
>>7871749
You don't seriously consider attosecond latency acceptable, do you anon?

If it's not sub-Planck-second accurate then it's trash. Stop shilling for this attosecond bullshit that you know is garbage!

>>7871730
I did. It worked on another CRT I used to have.

>>7871764
I'm not shilling "attosecond latency". I was just telling the other anon that no living human can perceive it. These MiSTer shills think that everyone should care about "attoseconds/milliseconds", as if we all had the powers of The Flash to perceive that sort of thing.

>>7871796
I guarantee you I can perceive it, the difference is there, if it's not 100% accurate in the subatomic level I can't simply enjoy the game, it disgusts me

>>7871796
Nobody is making these claims but you. You're the one that set up that strawman lol

Objectively MiSTer has less latency (counted in frames not nanoseconds) and is more accurate to original hardware. It's not for everybody because it is at the point of diminishing returns. If you're happy with PC emulation or Pi emulation stick to it. Nobody's trying to convince you that you need to do anything. But if you're the kind of person who cares about those small gains in latency and accuracy it's an option. It's not mutually exclusive to other types of emulation or real hardware, either. I guarantee anyone with a MiSTer likely has real hardware and emulates in other forms, too, depending on the usage case.

I don't really understand why an extra choice buttblasts you people so badly. MiSTer people aren't telling you how to play your games, but you seem completely insistent on telling us that we can't play games the way we want.

>>7871917
>I don't really understand why an extra choice buttblasts you people so badly. MiSTer people aren't telling you how to play your games, but you seem completely insistent on telling us that we can't play games the way we want.
probably has nothing to do with mister posters spamming the "my coomlection" jpeg in every thread about physical hardware.

The handheld core madman has done it again.

https://youtu.be/AJhx8SeI0Q8

>>7871971
Madman also has very short Patreon beta exclusivity phases so it would probably be merged into main in a week.

>>7871971
Get the fuck out of here. That's actually pretty cool.

>>7871925
It's a meme. It's like one guy doing that. Stop being so thin skinned.

>>7871971
Oh fuck. That's actually great. Is there anything like this for GB/GBC already?

>>7872043
I think someone tried to do it for the gb color core but gave up. Maybe that's what FPGAzumspass will do next.

>>7872121
Sounds like he's not gonna do it but maybe there's some similar code that could apply. I don't know really, this tweet feels like half hinting at maybe doing it and half broken english.

>>7872138
Here's something I'm actually really interested in (and I wish he was too) is SNAC link cable support. Imagine linking two MiSTers together for 4 player GBA games. Or a SNAC adapter that splits into two Gamecube connectors to have two GBAs you can connect to Four Swords Adventures. I'm pretty sure that the SNAC port has just enough pins to do this too, it would be wonderful.

>>7871909
So when did you get struck by lightning in a science lab?

>>7871917
Those claims were made in my console mini thread about "input lag". If "latency" and "accuracy" is your thing, fine. But don't accuse me or others of being "Butt-blasted", whenever you or someone get offended by criticism or negative comments involving the MiSTer. Which I see often, even this guy ---> >>7871925 knows it.

>>7872298
It's not criticism if you just fabricate nonsense in order to try and push your agenda. That's categorical butt-blasted behavior.

>>7872319
Nothing was fabricated. I have no "agenda". Now you're pushing lies and falsehoods. I suggest taking a chill pill and stop being so thin skinned.

>>7862072
Why? He's probably the only guy who's willing to go above and beyond for arcade cores

>>7863829
>Any good fan translated titles, or fun games that only require enough Japanese for menu navigation?
WonderSwan is a neat handheld but it's not loaded with a gaijin-friendly library like the Game Boy and it's kinda lacking in fan translations. It's games are very text heavy and menu driven, lots of RPGs. I'm concerned about accuracy since the guy working on it constantly stresses how everything is in moon so he might have a hard time doing deep dives for compatibility checks on untranslated games, which is a fucking lot of them

>>7872370
I saw someone mentioning some issues to him in the discord and from what i've seen he's taking note of them, so it does seem like other people are gonna help a lot

>>7872370
I downloaded the compete romset off IA and, yeah, that immediately stood out to me. I know literally nothing about the Wonderswan other than what one looked like, and booting up games at random they were all Japanese and a majority seemed text-heavy.

The Arc the Lad game is one I actually took a moment to try and read but my Japanese level is basically "can ask for directions"-tier and despite the extremely basic text (a little girl talks to her mother about why the machine people are mad at humans) I still couldn't hack it. Got to get back to swatting up Tae Kim/DoJG.

>>7872354
I've never seen someone NOU this hard lol
Just leave the thread. You're only making it worse for yourself with every dumbass thing you say.

>>7863829
SD Gundam Operation UC is a standout cool scrolling shooter but probably needs some Gundam knowledge to appreciate fully.

>>7868034

>>7872508
>Still pushing lies and falsehoods
Keep seething shill.

>>7872298
>my console mini thread

>>7863829
If you are an Evafag, there's a virtual pet game where you raise angels which has been recently translated.

>>7872951
My MiSTer threads have given birth to little baby mini threads full of assblasted third world types. The whole thing has gone much better than I anticipated.

Would a handheld MiSTer work out?

>>7873923
You could easily make a Switch type device with a MiSTer.

I am not willing to pay $450 on a MiSTer.

>>7873923
I guess someone could make some weird ass custom formfactor for it but I don't know if the de-10 nano's power draw would drain battery at a slow enough rate to make it viable.

>>7873923
>5V 4A psu
>+ display
>portable handheld
doubt.jpg

>>7873923
There's only one place that MiSTer belongs in(a trash bin).

>>7874967
So what? same shit as a raspberry pi

Jotego just randomly dropped that he's working on chips for the Neo Geo Pocket Color. It's about time someone tried to work on it.

>>7875201
Nice

>>7871971
I want to see every other handheld core implement this. I'm pretty sure that the GBA is the biggest handheld core already so if it can work on that then it's gotta work on everything else.

MiSTer chads, we fucking won!

>>7875297
>System16 claims that it was to help JAMMA board dealers cope with a law saying all boards must be sold with games; the MAME source code claims it was just a JAMMA test board
Weird thing.

>>7875135
>same shit as a raspberry pi
lol no

>>7875285
I imagine that the main issue would be how to handle audio plus implementing the link cable. The Gameboy core actually has a headstart because you can already link a Gameboy with a MiSTer using a SNAC adapter.

I wonder if our resident misinfo poster is the same guy trying to tell people that every MiSTer dev is the equivalent to a Klan member in the Ars Technica comments section

>>7876569
Funny how their main gripe is with a social media person who runs "official" discord channel and does not code at all, when the project leader is an asocial dork who doesn't use social media period.

Apparently we need to enable beta core from the update_all script from now on to get Jotego public cores, the stable cores will only get update only a few times in the year from now on, I guess only when he will consider there is no more need for updates that his cores will join the stable cores update.

https://twitter.com/topapate/status/1405813968388640770

Did you guys pick up an aluminum case when they went on sale again?

>>7877229
Are they still available?
That silver one is sexy.

>>7877239
Sold out. He's still got a ton of inventory that'll he'll be putting on sale on spurts.

>>7877426
Cool, I'll keep an eye out. Thanks.

>>7877035
Hey if it means sentient6 gets removed at some point I'd be fine with that

>>7877696
Kitrinx is socially awkward, but she at least programs. Sentient is just a mega bitch.

>>7877746
These people are just mad that two normal females arent lefty psychopath woke feminazis. Funny how it's all progressive woke faggots bitching about how they're Nazis by taking some sarcastic discord comment out of context. Why are they so obsessed? Nobody cares.

>>7877751
Neither of them are biological women.

>>7877843
What are your evidences?

>>7877897
I'd be more surprised if they were lol

>>7877751
I totally agree.
Kinda sad how /pol/tards keeps creeping in topics that have nothing to do with /pol/.
But who the fuck cares about trannycord and twitter and the "community".
It's mostly a bunch of guys enjoying old tech.
Imagine wasting so much time on Twitter crying about how you have been blocked that people don't bother about your /pol/ shit.

So here is a thanks from my side to the janny that keeps this threads mostly clean from shitposting.

>>7875380
Yes it is, It uses 5v.

>>7875201
If Jotego claims NGP(C) then what's FPGAzum going to work on next? Mega Duck?

>>7877229
>>7877229
Just got one of these off eBay for 40 bucks. It's not bad at all.

>>7878830
He's considering Virtual Boy. A lot of people are pushing him for it, one reason being it shares chips with the PC-FX which could lead another dev to try making a core for that afterwards. I think Saturn has some matching chips with PC-FX so that would also be a big help once srg320 finishes it. Saturn also shares the SH2 with 32X and CPS3 which don't have cores yet.
Cores tangentially pushing the development of uncreated cores is pretty neat.

>>7878931
Looks good for a Chinese case meng.

Game & Watch core never

>>7880231
Are there even ROM files for those?
Even so, sounds like it'd be difficult to emulate because you'd have to draw assets to match the LCD screens. And you'd probably get autists demanding support for a billion shitty tiger games toys.

>>7880524
MAME emulates them and requires dumps of the original program contained on chips. For graphics they scanned the original LCD screens in high resolution and converted them to vector graphics. So all required assets already exist.

>>7880553
Well if MAME already does it, then yeah I can't see any reason it couldn't happen.
I'd prefer a Virtual Boy core first though; I really want to play Jack Bros and that Wario game.

>>7879313
I feel bad for those dudes that are gonna pay like 100 bucks a chinese made version with no airflow, sad.

>>7880231
It's in progress but not the #1 priority for the developer right now

https://github.com/pcornier/GnW_MiSTer

>some guy made an FPGA implementation of the Dreamcast VMU
>was excited to port it to MiSTer
>disappears
It isn't exactly a big deal but hell I would've messed with it

>>7878931
It's plastic ? If it's the case you paid a lot acrylic case are less expensive I think.

>>7881228
He made a Kickstarter and ran with the money, he isn't gonna show up on the web again

Any update on Saturn/PS1?

>>7883320
He makes updates every two/three month, better wait for news in July.

>>7883320
Saturn: srg320 is chugging along, he doesn't really show up often until he has something substantial to show. It looked like a lot was already done for most of the chips but from what I've heard the last 20% of a chip is the longest shit to finish
PS1: Both devs had a falling out so that entire project is on pause. They both dumped their work to Github but it isn't easy for another FPGA dev to just jump into something already that complex and finish it, especially without the original devs to ask for help

>>7883320
According to this, we might have a Saturn beta as early as July.
It would be pretty fucking funny if Saturn was out before PSX.

>>7883320
Both have failed to materialize. Meanwhile I am using a scart to HDMI converter for my Sega Saturn, while also using my PS3 to play PS1 games with.

>>7885056
Based and redpilled! My CRT TV just stopped working last week. So a scart to HDMI solution might be just what I need to play my Sega Saturn.

Retroarch > mister

>>7885010
>trying to exactly quantify some dude's effort
I don't think it works like that

https://twitter.com/AshEvans81/status/1401213238604447745
Looks like whenever the Saturn core is finished the 32X could immediately follow

So, I'm curious. What language are these cores written in? Is it Verilog? If so, when better hardware gets released will they be able to compile it to the new architecture relatively easy? I'm curious basically if new hardware will be released that allows for PS1 and N64 as well and if it's worth waiting a bit.
This is not a shit post. Apologies if this is some common question.

>>7887161
Verilog mostly. It's hardly a language though. It's just a mapping of circuits, they could convert it to anything.

>>7887161
PS1 is possible, N64 is where the cutoff is. The problem is just that the PSX FPGA project is paused due to dumb internal drama between the devs

>>7878931
Looks like anodized aluminum. 40 is a good price. I don't like the tiny cases since you always have a pile of wires and rectangles leaking out of them. But it looks descent for the money.

>>7871450
They're not exactly rare.

>>7887308
Aren't there some old Pentiums being made now because some dishwashers started using them?

>>7856715
>coping because you can't emulate ps1 in 2021

>>7860886
>lil pp energy
Is when you report a post you don't like or agree with. If you can't handle a healthy debate against someone who has a negative view of the MiSTer, it's better for you to just avoid the debate rather than making an ass out of yourself.

>>7885645
Perfectly designed to make people mad at srg320 for something he never promised

>>7885134
Retroarch and MiSTer are both based.

>>7887229
>problem is just that the PSX FPGA project is paused due to dumb internal drama between the devs
Refuse to believe this, this can't be true right? I pay a lot of money to support devs working on cores, and projects really halt due to workplace drama???

>>7889336
So far it's been the only one to do that, and they did release all of the work they did to Github to allow someone else to step in. Technically they weren't really targeting MiSTer but that would've been a port after they finished since they were using a different FPGA
>I pay a lot of money to support devs working on cores
I don't believe you

Good job lads, 14 days have passed since OP.

>>7889342

>>7889882
>one guy

Say guys I'm playing Mario and Luigi Superstar saga on gba, I noticed an odd sound behavior, sometimes during a fight when I choose an action, just after pushing a button I have this weird sound distortion/ cracking sound for a split second.
I know that gba sound chips is shit, but outside of fights the sound remains clear and consistent, not a single distortion.

Was this in the present in the og hardware ?

>>7890647
Are you sure that it isn't an audio sample with crackle?

>>7890647
A few threads ago, someone mentioned clipping in the GBA core. Don't know if he submitted an issue on GitHub but try to lower the core volume in the OSD.