/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7771598
anon you will tell me where you get these pictures and what cartoons are on the television

>>7771820
http://ingtec.nobody.jp/ no idea what show is in the OP image. the show from the previous thread image is g-on riders

>>7771820
>anon you will tell me where you get these pictures and what cartoons are on the television

>>7771985
Did people really used to leave PVMs sitting around?

>RGB

>>7771598
Petite Princess Yucie

>>7772513
Yeah, for art installations.

Is Haier a low-tier brand? I can't get my MiSTer to display anything on it with the Spaniard's VGA -> S-Video/Composite adapter.

>>7771903
Sister Princess

>>7771903
Get a better reciever mane. Also wot sony speakers ?

>>7772904
Bottom of the barrel chinkshit. I hear they're pretty good value nowadays tho.

>>7772914
>>7772754
Neat

>>7772904
I have a Haier CRT. It thinks there's no signal when bright images flash on screen so it probably needs to be recapped. Looks decent when it works.

Alright bros maybe a few regulars saw my posts a few threads ago about me possibly getting a new in box fujistu siemens VGA monitor for 5 bucks. I was a lazy fuck so I wanted to wait a bit just to see if I could find something better. I ended up getting a Hyundai Image Quest Q770 in box. Its so fucking good brehs. It's miles ahead of that piece of shit chink tv I used before. It looks flat but its not. Its a curved tube with an anti glare lens in front of it like an arcade. I TATEed it for a bit but I dont know if its TATE safe. Whatever my shmups never looked so clean. Its so bright and clear I had to lower brightness to the minimum. Not an hint of ghosting or flicker the sprites glide across the screen. Going to play some fucking rayforce and blood first time tomorrow.

>>7773336
thanks for the oc pics

>>7773420
Lmao. Pics are coming tomorow. too tired for this shit. Also tips on how to take pics of crts ? Mine look like ass

>>7773428
sync the shutter speed to the refresh rate. manual focus helps a ton as well

Did you actually fall for the red, green, blue meme?

>>7773497
I only use VGA.

>>7773428
My camera settings are 1/60 shutter speed, 100 ISO (sometimes 50). I turn off all the lights in the room to prevent glare. Reducing the brightness/picture settings of the monitor might help too. In essence, a darker the better.
Training your hand not to shake to reduce blur is important as well. If you've got a tripod or something, then all the better.

>>7773428
>>7773336
Looks good, I'm jelly. I just get my phone real close to the screen

Every TV deserves a RGB input. RGB mod every TV that doesn't have RGB input and isn't a hot chassis set.

>>7773797
i suffer quietly on RGB trough scart

>>7773786
next time post it in the dark and not having the reflection of the window in the way

>>7773282
It works just fine with my Genesis though. Is there any reason it would work fine with one device but not with another?

The adapter I'm trying to get to work on my Haier also seems to have broken my Toshiba CRT, although I'm not totally sure on that, could have just been a very bad coincidence. Also not really mad, I kind of need an excuse to get rid of the thing.

>>7774156
Have you verified that the VGA converter works correctly with any TV?

>>7774157
I'll try it on this LCD I've got.

>>7774096
I completely forgot how much glare there is even with the blinds down lol.

>>7774214
Looks new, beautiful tv.

>>7771598
>>7773497
There's the dithering effect for games, but how's rgb at 240p for movies using a scaler from your pc, or is composite the better choice for movies/anime too?

>>7774330
>scaler from your pc
? Can you actually do that

>>7774330
Depends on the resolution of the source material. Though the color depth and clarity you get with RGB (or component) is leaps and bounds ahead of composite. If you ever get the chance, watch something in HD on a CRT that supports 480p or more. The quality is unbelievable. My shitty phone pic doesn't do it justice.

>>7773336
>>7773428
>>7773604
>>7773786
How does that look ? I just quickly unfucked the base settings but its far from dialed in. Being a VGA monitor it naturally has no scanlines so I threw a quick shader on it. This is at about 50 brightness in a well lit room. The shader takes the brightness down quite a bit. At night I have to turn it all the way down to not burn my eyes.
Honestly If you emulate this a pretty painless way to play on CRTs. No line doubler autism needed.

>>7774947
By the way is the 240p test suite suitable to dial this kind of display in ? I dont want to keep fiddling around for hours only to find the settings dont hold when I switch out of it.

>>7774956
vga monitor utilities should be fine: https://files.catbox.moe/k54sd7.7z

>>7774979
NEC test*

Thanks a lot. I'll post results once I'm done.

>>7774947
is this darius gaiden?

>>7771598
I've had a shitty little Alba for years and it serves me well, any of you have have any similar experiences with these non-Sony etc. devices

How do you prevent your tv from doing this when you take pictures of it?

>>7775015
go to shutter speed and match it with the framerate

>>7774991
Yep

>>7775015
Is that Dragon Force?

>>7775043
nice, I fucking love the darius games
I'm hoping to get G-Darius soon and play it on my little dinky CRT

JVC DT-V1910CG

>>7775596

>>7775602
>digital picture on a crt
bro, go find a fucking polariod, then go to kinkos and get it scanned and then post it

>>7774432
Awesome sounds good, thanks anon

>>7775658

Y-yes sir

My local thrift store has a Sony KV-20FS100 for sale. Thinking about getting it just to see if flat-panels really do have worse geometry.

>>7776007
I have the 27 inch version of that and yeah, the geometry isn't great. I could probably do more to fix it but just haven't had time or the space to really open up the back and work on it.

>>7776007
That's probably a digital CRT

hey guys check out my toshiba 27a41!

>>7776114
It's not

>>7776129
Are you sure?

>>7776135
Yes

>>7776138
ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmtmWk3puGg

>>7776007
>Factory 20fv300

>>7776256
Comfy. He hasn't made any videos in a long ass time though

>>7774096
>>7774245

My dos machine's crt looks awesome, but it keeps degaussing itself every few minutes. Anyone else have this happen?

What's the procedure for EIA RGB colorbars? I can only find info on NTSC bars.

>>7777915
maybe you have a key bound to the degauss button

>>7777915
you need these

How do I know if I can tate my tv?

>>7778160
The bigger it is the riskier it is. You need to open it up and check that:
-The flyback is secured in a safe way so it doesn't weigh on the board
-The boards are secure once vertical
>/!!!\ the tube chassis must provide support in vertical position. If all the tube weight rests on screws in the plastic there's a risk for the tube to crack the frame and fall. The bigger it is the more important this is. Flat screens are generally never to be tated as they're much heavier.
>Tating safely requires a degaussing coil. If your TV doesn't have coils colors can bleed because rotating the mask in the earth's field can magnetize the mask. Don't ever rotate a screen while it's on for the same reason.
Something like a small trinitron is generally safe if you are gentle and don't bang the set but doing this to a big fuckoff WEGA is asking for trouble. Things like arcade sets or PVM are made with this in mind and can be rotated all day long.

>>7776396
Tough to find small FV's like that in the wild. For what it's worth, this is my fb marketplace 32FV310 after I made some changes. Might have tweaked it further after this pic not sure but either way it's totally fine in real gameplay

what are my saturn bros playing

think i might pick up a japanese n64 for import games

>>7779154
FYI the only difference between american and japanese N64s is the plastic in the cartridge slot with notches to only let you insert certain carts. you can replace that piece with one that fits all carts for like $10. so if you have an NTSC console already, you don't need another one, but get one if you only have a PAL console.
also i haven't used my saturn in months but when i turn it on to make sure it's working i usually play vampire savior for a few minutes.

>>7779154
What game? I'm considering adding a Saturn to my collection at some point. For the n64 you literally just need to cut 2 bits of plastic off on the inside of the cart slot to be able to play games from any region. You won't even see that piece since it's inside the system so there's no actual cosmetic alteration. My n64 is actually a Japanese one that I got for really cheap. I cleaned it up and restored it, then cut those pieces off and now it's in great condition and plays everything.

>>7774979
>>7774947
>>7773336
Finally done with this bitch. I found the factory menu easy enough and got good results. Theres a weird ABL setting I dont know what is for but everything else is clean. I went ahead and did color and contrast.

>>7779703
>>7775531
Lookin' good.

>>7779710
>>7779703
good shit my nigga

>>7779703
>>7779710
I had the 19"
Aside from lens effect in corners due to fakeflat, it was pretty good.

>>7771985
Man i love when people make crt art

Should I get this model CRT and make an offer, or should I take the straight up free KV32FS100 model instead?

>>7773536
Jokes on you its sending R/G/B on separate wires still

>>7780197
>Retro gaming in ad
No this guy will try to fuck you and make you waste your time. If by the second attempt at negociation you can't get it for 50$ or under tell him to die in a ditch. Also it's HD meaning it's PS2 and others only or it'll look like shit.

>>7780265
So I should just go for the KV32FS100 which is free, SD, and comes with component input?

>>7780280
yes you fool

>>7780303
OK. Made the set up for Sunday. Hopefully I don't get ripped off or my back doesn't break even with some help carrying it.

>>7780280
If you had to take one it would be this one yeah. SD 4:3 and with component. Will make everything work.
>>7780313
It's fucking heavy but you can manage it. A widescreen would definitely require two people. Not this one. Protip: lift it with the screen facing you. That will make it tolerable. All the weight is in the front.
I hauled a similar samsung tube and I'm far from fit.

>>7780324
I'm taking my cousin with me since he has a car. My biggest scare is that the tv won't fit and we would have to pull off some Frankenstein shit.

>>7779614
>What game?
joshikousei no houkago

don't know if this is the thread to ask, but I want component cables for PS2 and HD retrovision is always sold out. what's the next best thing without spending a fortune?

>>7781449
Most component cables are fine, it’s only the SCART cables that have a lot of noise issues

>bring in 21in crt from off the street
>my old games are just like how i remember
>realize how fat i got from reflection in crt
i didnt ask for this

>>7782170
>so fat that he uses a CRT instead of a mirror

>>7782176
mirrors are built to lie, especially recent ones
crt tvs before smartphones however and big tech companies, they tell the truth

>>7782186
>Perfect reflections are a Lie
>Convex reflections are the truth
did you grow up in a funhouse?

>>7782192
so im not fat?

>>7782217
Post your reflection and we'll tell you

>>7782313
ganna take a few days to find a kinkos to scan this polariod

>>7781449
get monster cables

>>7781449
Look for the OEM cables

>>7771598
This might be beyond the scope of this thread, but what's the best way to get a CRT TV connected to Retroarch? I got a Wii for 2D emulation but I wanna see how far I can go with early 3D emulation
It seems like GroovyArcade is the way to go for Linux users?

>>7782430
On Linux you can force 240p using customer modelines with xrandr.

>>7771598
Mine's purple!

What parts are worth saving from a fucked up pretty much dead tube?

>>7782769
Everything except the tube and the enclosure.

Decided to pick up that KV-20FS100. My suspicions about its geometry were correct. I still think it's a pretty cool set, so I'll see if I can make any improvements.

>>7783038
You can fix that

Is there a good cheaper alternative to the gscartsw if all I want is a box that will do proper dual output? I don't have a bunch of systems that I want to constantly keep hooked up, so an 8 input switch just seem excessive.

>>7783038
i hope you didnt pay more than free .99

>>7772904
the spaniards? I jsut know about the axunworks and linuxbot 3000 rgb to svideo boxes. Can I get a pic or a link to more info? Thanks newfrend

Cool game

>>7783038
Should be a tilt option in the menu. Easy fix.

>>7783038
Adjust tilt correction. Easy fix.

I am a massive retard with a retarded question.
Suppose I have a CRT, and I turn it off while having a MiSTer sending it input, specifically with the Spaniard's adapter. Let's also assume that that after I turn it back on, things are mega-distorted, BUT they fix themselves if I turn off the TV long enough.

What does that mean for the TV I have?

>>7783038
That's nothing. Easily fixed if you have the remote.

>>7771598
Hey, I'm looking to jump into CRT and have the option of an HD or SD trinitron.
I understand that HD doesn't have scanlines and makes anything pre 6th gen look worse than an SD, but to be honest I'd say I play more 6th gen than anything else.
I also think the HD would be neat for hooking a computer up to and playing media.
The SD is a safe bet, and has component, but the HD seems wacky and fun.
If I opt for HD am I making a mistake, or does it make sense for my usecase of mostly 6th gen and media, with the occasional older console?

>>7783560
if the sd Trinitron has svideo or component then absolutely go with it.

This is probably a stupid question, but does pushing the button on a crt to switch it on, wear it out over time?

What I mean is, would the button that's used to switch it on wear out or get stuck?

Would it be better to just use the remote and turn it on from standby?

>>7783621
Sure, they can wear out. I've had it happen.

>>7783248
If it only happens with the mister it's a problem with the mister

>>7783621
The button just like any other tactile button will eventually fail as it's basically just a piece of metal flexing whenever you push it. It's not really that big of a deal, just use whatever is more convenient. If you notice the button has a softer press than other buttons on the tv then it's probably more worn out.

>>7783560
I'm kinda mixed on 6th gen. For most games I prefer a crt but for many I prefer a modern screen. In my opinion there's not much of a reason to use a HD crt over a modern tv. It really just has a lower resolution and looks fuzzier. I'd say get the SD crt for all gaming needs and if you really want a crt to use with a computer then get a crt monitor. If possible though you should try each out to see how you like it before deciding.

>>7783560
no, component on SD TV looks great, I'd go with that

>>7774396
you could run a pc to a gbs control for 240p movies, or hell you could scale them up as well

Although I'm not sure why you would want to do this

Just got a RCA F26026MK for free from someone who was going to throw it away. Picture is perfect, but I can seem to figure out how to adjust the overscan. Popped the back panel off to find two more adjustment pots, but they both only shift the picture left and right. Anyone know how to get into the service menu on one of these?

>>7783621
If it's a latching mechanical switch that actually passes current through it and not something that controls a soft power off circuit, then yes, there can be a quite substantial sparking inside the switch that eventually wears the contacts, but same goes for mechanical relays if the standby switching is implemented with such. Some switches can be difficult to find a direct fitting replacement switch as there can be a supplementary momentary switch that is supposed to engage the reset circuit when the button is pressed (this might mainly apply to some 80's European sets). Best bet might be to use an extension cord with a switch if you are worried.

VGA 800*600 @100Hz, connected to a PC using a DVI to VGA convertor. Running Retroarch

My TV made loud crackling noises and then smoke poured out of it.

>>7785509
Sounds like a possible short followed by a blown component. Have you taken it apart and cleaned it before? If there's a lot of dust it can actually create opportunities for conductive paths.

>>7784315
This is from the ps2 sonic collection game where you can view the covers or manuals and zoom in.

>>7785612
No. Actually, this is the first time I used it in a long time. I'm not too great with electronics so I'm scared to do anything but leave it alone and unplugged.

>>7779154
Just buy a flashcart desu

>>7785654
See if there's anyone around you who does electronics repairs and ask if they're willing to work on a crt. Otherwise if you want to try fixing it yourself look up info and do a lot of research before attempting anything. Retro Tech on youtube has a lot of great educational content.

Started sunday off with a couple rounds of IIDX, gonna go to the beach later. Feels good man

>>7784052
Have you found the service manual?

>>7783621
Just replace the button when it eventually breaks man.

>>7782750
How???!!!!

Any tips for getting rid of CRTs in burgerland? I have a 30-something inch CRT that I put for free on FB marketplace and craigslist, but I haven't gotten any bites.
It's composite-only and needs 2 people to lift it, so I'm guessing that most CRT hunters would pass it over.

>>7786047
Just toss it at that point. Look up where your nearest electronics recycling center is and drop it off. It's usually free to do so now.

>>7786047
offer to help move it?
it's a real shame to destroy something that still works.

I wish I had a place in my room for a 25" slot mask tv
My old Philips when hooked with RGB gave picture similar to arcade monitors

>trying to buy a TV off some faggot on offer up or craigslist
>they never reply or take forever to do so
>get mad when you tell them you are no longer in the area or can't pick it up because they want you to come on their schedule
Nigger, I'm doing YOU the favor by taking your ancient TV off your hands. Fucking boomers.

>>7785995
Nope, that's why I asked.

I tried the typical RCA pattern of holding down menu, pressing power, pressing volume up, then releasing menu, but that just takes me into and back out of demonstration mode.

Is the Retrotink RGB2Comp thing good for getting an RGB quality signal on a CRT? Is the signal going to be identical quality?

>>7786645
In practice yes, you'll never notice a difference on a consumer CRT. Way better than tinkering with RGB mods imo.

>>7786645
Component is just a different way of communicating the same info as RGB. It's so good that europeans refuse to even acknowledge that it exists and is as easily accessible today as RGB SHART sets are for them - perhaps even moreso. I wouldn't worry about it anon

>>7786047
set it by the road on a sunny day and hope some spics take it

What brands of CRTs should I be looking for? There's a 27" RCA near me with component and S-Video input that I am tempted to grab, but I have no idea otherwise.

>>7785225

Same set up, but I rec-calibrated the colours/ gamma and I enabled the NTSC-320p-gauss-scanline shader from RetroArch.

Am I the only person that thinks this is a meme unless you have some serious money invested into one of the high end CRTs? I have a decent CRT in 480i and it is nice and pleasant to play on but its not worth the weight and space it takes up to me, Id rather just throw a filter on an emulator and play on a newer tv, even downsampling from 1080p from my laptop it just doesnt really wow me. Am I a retard?

>>7786853
Europeans don't "refuse" to acknowledge it. It's simply a lot less available than component. Even the shittiest bedroom tv tier screen had SCART when the american equivalent would only have composite or maybe S-Video. We simply don't care because unless you want 1080i or something it's not needed.

>>7787021
Scart can do 1080i actually its just a generic connector used for many different signals, I've seen sky boxes that are wired for component through scart to supply the 1080i signal to certain plasmas back in the day that were wired that way, for some fucking reason.

>>7787017
>Am I the only person that thinks this is a meme unless you have some serious money invested into one of the high end CRTs?

For me, the computer monitor that I posted above is one that I have owned since 2002. I used it as one of my main monitors for a Windows XP machine for about 5 years. I think I paid like $200.00CND back then. It was not an expensive monitor (back then). and only maxed out at 1280x1024 at 60Hz.But can do 1024*768 @ 85Hz, or 800*600 @ 100Hz tops. I used to play so many console games via emulation during the Windows 9x/ XP era, many on this particular VGA CRT. I have it plugged into an I5 with 16GB RAM and a GeForce 660ti. Been using it to play some emulation, as well as some older PC games. The company that manufactured this screen: MAG Innovations still exists.

>>7787017
>Am I a retard?
Yes, you're probably using a shitty hdmi to composite dongle.

>>7787021
>Even the shittiest bedroom tv tier screen had SCART when the american equivalent would only have composite or maybe S-Video
That's an understatement. The shitty bedroom TV would have SCART and RF, but lack composite over RCA. If you wanted composite you would use a SCART adapter. Consoles shipped with SCART adapters for composite cables because there was a good chance that nothing else would fit.

>>7787128
>or maybe S-Video

no way. S-video was reserved for TV's over 25inch in size.

what do you if you lose your remote?

>>7787151
you do you buy new remote

>>7787156
>you do you buy new remote

Universal remotes are easy to come by.

>>7787017
> Am I a retard?
yes

>>7787106
>For me, the computer monitor that I posted above is one that I have owned since 2002

I looked and the manufacturing date is October 2004. But, this was still used with my Windows XP desktop, up until I switched to Windows 7 in 2012. This is the last VGA monitor I have purchased. And it is my least favorite of the bunch. I have owned 4 VGA monitors in the past. One did output at 1600*1200 @85hz, but the others were really 1280*1024 60-80Hz range. This MAG monitor was still fine for really nice at 800*600 or 1024*768. But It's an e-machine level monitor from back then.

>>7787017
The only retards are the ones telling you that you're wrong to enjoy whatever you prefer. Ultimately it all comes down to preference and whatever makes you happy.

>>7787294
cope

>>7787117
Its not exactly shitty but its not a 300 dollar piece of equipment. It was the cheapest thing I could find that would actually downsample to 480i, most everything else stopped at 480p.
>>7787338
why are you a faggot?

>>7787338
Cope with what? I have a crt, I use it for gaming. I would never use a filter on emulation as I just don't think looks great. Doesn't mean that others are wrong for preferring whatever they do. You're the real one coping if you can't accept that.

>>7787294
Based centrist retard

>>7787487
>I asked people on 4chan if I was a retard, they confirmed that I am a retard, and now I am mad about it
Many such cases.

>>7787487
>>7787496
seethe

>>7787017
>going to /crt/ and complaining about crts
kek
CRTs varied wildly in quality and since they're no longer made, the ones in supply vary even moreso since they're at the mercy of their owners. You may just have a mediocre one. It's also true that shaders have gotten a lot better. I've trolled that CRTpixels Twitter account by sending in shadered emulator screencaps and passing them off as the real thing
If you're serious about getting rid of your CRT then e-mail me and I can take that off your hands: orangegladiator@gmail.com

>>7786645

Yes, it even does a Rec. 601 conversion as a bonus.

>>7787239

Compaq actually had some really nice CRT's.

>crt
is the only reason the use CRTs are light gun games, or is that issue had been completely solved?

>>7787487
downscale with software, get a radeon card and shart 15khz through it

>>7787221
They often lack some button mappings and rarely offer a way to input unmapped keycodes except some OneForAll remotes with their magic button.

>>7787878
Light guns are still an issue for modern displays, but most people using crts aren't for the light guns. It's mostly about native resolutions and a love for the old technology

are component cables worth it if I already have S-video cables? is it a worthwhile noticeable improvement?

Does converting signals add latency? I have 1 HDMI port and 1 Displayport port of my monitor, and the HDMI is reserved for my main monitor. I want to plug in a DisplayPort -> HDMI adapter for the other port, then attach a HDMI cable which goes to a HDMI -> Component adapter, and then finally to my CRT. Is this a bad idea?

>>7788126
I think s-video is more than adequate.

>>7788372
pic related is what I'm looking to get

>>7788372
you might want to convert directly from DP to VGA, then vga to component (if you have to)

>>7788387
why? is it because VGA is analog and analog is faster?

>>7788393
it should be more efficient, yeah, but i'm not an expert.

and if your monitor has a vga plug, you might as well use it.

>>7771598
Would this one be any good? The guy is pretty much giving it away, but I don't want to drive and pick up a crappy one. I'm already stuck with two as it is.

>>7788494
>Samsung tube
Not worth it

>>7788494
>>7788530
It's probably fine anon.

>>7788530
What's wrong with samsung tv's?

>>7788602
It's probably fine, it's just not a top of the line Sony PVM.
There is a stigma with Samsung CRTs that comes from their much older models (late 70s) being garbage, but that obviously doesn't apply to that set.

>>7788418
Is anyone here smart enough to understand what this guy is doing with xrandr? https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/awqolc/get_high_quality_240p_from_your_pc_to_your_tv/

>>7786853
Fuck off, Mike.

>It's so good that europeans refuse to even acknowledge that it exists
hard to "acknowledge" it when there were approx. 0 consoomer-TV-models in Europe with component-input.

If component was so beloved and universal in the US, why were the 6th-gen consoles the first (and pretty much last, as 7th-gen were made for HDMI, as developers intended) to use it?

>>7788494
>>7788602
>>7788646
Yes and no. These tubes are incredibly bright and colorful slotmasks and look very good when they're set up proper. Only issue is that geometry on a lot of these is FUCKED and if you don't have the remote to fix it it's going to look like shit. Also many have limited inputs.
t. Samsung 2000's flatshit owner

>>7789006
not that anon but component was the primary input for 360/ps3 at the time on most American televisions.

>>7789006
The short-lived HD scart standard, which actually pushed a YPbPr signal over a scart connector, was used in European countries instead of discrete component cables. Both HD scart and component were ditched by console manufacturers when HDMI became the norm.

>>7789065
Over here we went from scart directly to HDMI. Maybe it was the same for japan too.

>>7789065
not to mention launch 360s didn't even ship with hdmi. it wasn't a feature until later.

>>7784052
Opened the thing up, the chassis is a ctc148/149. Still can't find a service manual or much info on this thing in general.
I found an old forum post where someone had apparently provided a link to the service manual, but that link seems to be long gone. Even made an account on that forum with a throwaway email just in case links were hidden for non-members, no dice.
Every manual I've found so far for the ctc series is either too new and gives the standard method for accessing RCA's service menu which doesn't seem to work on this model, or is too old and is intended for models that don't even have an onscreen display, and therefore no service menu. So either this set has a different method of accessing the menu, or it doesn't have one despite having and on screen display. I won't know which is the case until I find that damn manual.

>>7789065
I got a ps3 near it's launch and I absolutely went straight to hdmi. In fact the system came with an HDMI cable.

>>7789419
XBox 360 was a fucked up system. Microsoft went backwards in many ways with this hunk of shit.

>>7789710
what the fuck is that doing in my namefield

>>7789710
>>7789889
The 360 yakuza have marked you for death I'm afraid.

>>7785701
this

>finally find a decent priced/sized tv with component
>its all fucked up

>>7791058
Most likely just an issue with the connectors

>>7789006
Angry euro detected! Here's the thing: I don't think the average person gives a fuck about video picture quality then, or now. They mostly gravitate toward whatever just werks and doesn't require them to buy anything extra. My point is, component CRTs being widely available in NA blows away the yuro delusion of being superior in any facet of the /vr/ hobby. They had RGB capable crt's aplenty? Cool, so did we, and they're NTSC to boot, not retarded gimped PAL sets.

>>7791541
>gimped PAL sets
>he fell for the pal sets can only show pal 50hz meme
>he doesn't know rgb signals ignore all colour encoding systems
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, IT'S OVER

>>7791058
Check the tint/hue and colour contrast

>>7791541
You do know most pal TVs can display ntsc 60hz right?

Any Torontofags in /crt/?

I have an HP P1110 that I'm looking to give away. G2 voltage is slightly fucked, but it's still pretty nice overall, tube is bright (too bright, one might argue) and colours are fairly accurate if slightly on the cool side. It'll do 1800x1440 at 80 Hz and just about every other resolution at about 85. Not crazy refresh rates but quite solid. I'd prefer to give it to someone here who has a use for it rather than some random CRT hoarder who checks FB marketplace every hour.

>>7791819
The main issue is the wavy shit

>>7792459
are the borders opened up yet? i would pick this up lol

>>7792469
oh lol, didn't see that
looks like where the speakers are

>find a trinitron that's 20''
>realise it doesn't have component but bas s-video and composite
>can't playing my PS2 and wii with component cables
Should I just cuck out and use composite on those two, or should I look for a 24''? It took me 3 months just to find this one.

>>7792996
If you know what your doing, or know someone that does, you could mod it to accept rgb. You could then use a component to rgb converter to plug your consoles into it.

Alternatively, you could just use s-video to get something that's at least better than composite. Both gc and ps2 support s-video, you just need the proper cables.

>>7787017
No you aren't a retard. I own a JVC D-series, a PVM, and a Samsung SyncMaster 1600x1200 PC CRT.
I recently ordered an OSSC despite all this. I really like CRTs because new TVs aren't supporting anything analog anymore, but if I get a good upscaler I'll probably use them far less. I hate the geometry aspect of CRTs, although it's not as much of a problem on PC CRTs and PVMs. Those are also the hardest to find in the wild now.
The only CRT I'll probably keep using is the PC CRT because I'll be able to OSSC -> VGA converter so I can play the 15kHz/240p systems on the PC monitor.

>>7787017
>>7793353
it depends if you like cleaner images or softer ones

>>7791541
Fucking seething american. Don't try to deflect this by saying it's /vr/s delusion (which isn't even true that's a redditard rgbt faggot fad) when you clearly said it was a euro thing.
Hell you even admit no one gives a shit in your reply so why even mention euros at all?
Also most pal sets are multiregional and can switch modes in the service menu. Hell you don't even have to get in the service menu of my phillips space heater.

Have fun with biden crashing your economy with no survivors lmao.

I have a JVC D series that I got a couple of months back and while the geometry is decent, it's got some weird convergence issues that cause light guns to be inaccurate on the lefthand side of the screen, any solutions for this? The affected area has strange chromatic aberration/discoloring

>>7771598
How do you diminish that "zooming" effect you get when the screen goes from bright to dark ? It's a bit nauseating. My monitor has a setting called ABL that seems to affect it but I don't know what it is doing really and I don't know a reliable way to test it.
>>7793634
That looks a magnet burn. I set down my headphones on my monitor and it left a slight discoloration that looked exactly like that. If you have a degauss gun hit the screen and it -may- go away.

>>7793664
is putting a slightly larger CRT next to and power cycling it a viable method of degaussing? not sure if it's worth buying equipment for a single set, I already have two others that are 27"

>>7792860
Unfortunately the borders are still shut. Realistically it would probably be someone from Southern Ontario who picks this one up.

>>7792996
You can get S-video cables for the PS2, and there are third party ones available for the Wii.

>>7793664
oh also, what you're describing is bloom and reducing brightness may help but some monitors just suffer from big changes in geometry thanks to bloom. I actually have the same issue with that JVC I posted, not sure if you can really force it away since it's usually a manufacturing flaw

>>7793674
You sure ? When people described bloom to me it was more about white bleeding out. When I put up color bars the 100 units square is nice and clean.
>>7793671
You mean putting a set equipped with a coil next to it ? Probably not. If fact I think you may make it worse.

>>7793664
>How do you diminish that "zooming" effect
It's an effect of the electrons heating up the mask and physically distorting it, there's nothing you can do except turn down the brightness

>>7793683
https://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq/tvbloom.htm

>>7793664
https://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq/tvbloom.htm

>>7772914
kino

>tfw too stupid to understand how the geometry works on a CRT tv to know if I have to fix it or not

>>7773797
I don't know why people don't just straight up mod CRT's for HDMI at this point.
If you're gonna mod it you might as well go all the way.

>>7794737
what would be the point in that? we want clean analog video

I truthfully don't know much about geometry means, is it best to avoid jumping down that rabbit hole? I hear it can't be "unseen", and all I want to do is play SH3 PS2 or Shadow Hearts on a CRT to make them look less bad.

>>7794762
>>7794641
It means parts of the screen warp, stretch, or otherwise distort the picture. Mine looks good but on side scrolling 2d content you can really see it in motion.

>>7794778
Not him but I can understand when geometry isn't right, I just don't know what component affect what parts of the display. Like for example I have a set where the top two corners sort of bend inwards, but I have no idea what needs to be adjusted to fix that

>>7794820

>>7785985
Is that small font even readable irl?
I certainly can't read it from the image.
Maybe this game wasn't made with super fine display in mind.

>>7794874
I have a shitty beat up set where some of the lines seem to be thinner depending on how bright the line is overall
wtf is going on?

>>7794879
It's an SD tube/set, not a "super fine pitch" tube, and a 480i game. One field isn't visible in the picture so small text wouldn't look as legible in it I guess

>>7794754
i guess that depends on what you connect your CRT to, but your HDMI signal would have to be converted for the ray gun

>>7794754
>analog video
>clean
Pick one.
By definition analog video is imperfect and always has interference and other shit.
The consoles produce digital video at the lowest level. You want digital you just don't know it yet.

In 2035 we'll all be playing in 12K MicroLEDs with Shaders loaded on it and we'll all modify our consoles to output digital 240p over HDMI for the cleanest pure raw signal. Anything desired from the analog domain(such as NES composite) will of course be optionally simulated.

>>7794897
>interlaced
Well that explains it, that's hard to photograph.
It does look sharper than a typical consumer set though and interlaced tends to look worse on sharper sets.

>>7794934
CRTs with HDMI already exist.
Quite a few BVMs and PVMs accept SDI too which is also a Digital Input.
It's not wizardry or anything like that.

>>7794959
hell there's even widescreen HD consumer CRTs with HDMI inputs, often from lower end brands as well like Phillips or Samsung.

>>7794965
Yeah I don't know why idiots keep thinking CRT are magical analog devices or whatever.

>>7794952
Lol ok? I'm pretty happy with it nigga don't worry about me. Weirdo

>>7794874
What if my set doesn't have a setting for pin amp in the service menu?

>>7795079
check for potentiometers on the pcb

>>7795168
Doesn't have that either. Could it be due to aging capacitors?

>>7793634
>any solutions for this

Convergence strips and patience.

>>7793634
>any solutions for this

The yoke is slightly off from center probably dropped too hard at some point in its life. Needs to be reseated on the rubber boots for dead center and a proper calibration with convergence strips.

>>7794959
>>7794965
>>7794987
too bad hdmi/HD consumer sets are useless for retro gaming

How long do you think your 2000s Trinitrons will last?

>>7795964
from here to eternity baby

>>7795964
Not much

>get a crt from a family member
>it buzzes whenever it turns on
what does it mean

>>7796084
Mustard gas.

>>7795964
My trinitron is already fucked, the image has this distortion and the picture is always shaking.
Does anyone know what could be causing this? It's a 14" Sony trinitron from the late 1990s or early 2000s.

I get a little bit of vibration particularly on horizontal which used to be annoying on games like earthbound where the item menu had lines going across it. Now I only really notice it on solid colors, particularly green. Is this just a sign of age or can I fix it in the menu somehow, these jvcs don't give you nearly as many color adjustments as Sony crts.

>>7796389
I should mention the only adjustment I made was turning off red push in service menu.

>>7796389
It's a hsync issue and probably caused by ripple from PSU. Cap replacement might resolve it.

>>7796324
bad HOT maybe?

>>7794874
This is helpful thank you.

what do I need to know about vga-displayport/hdmi adapters? I'd like to use a crt monitor with my computer, but I don't have vga

>>7796324
8-bit guy on youtube had an issue that looked identical to that with a monitor. The mainboard had cracked underneath the flyback. Scraping off some solder resist and bridging the broken traces fixed it.

What's a good universal remote? Lost the one for my 13 inch samsung in a move, and I can't figure out how to change inputs without it.

Also, can anyone recomend me a nice light gun with recoil for ps2/ps1?

>>7795692
>>7795702
Thanks anons. The set seems to have quite a lot of hours just from the general dimness but I think I'll hold onto it and try to fix the convergence. I think I may have done the damage while transporting it since the CRT moved quite a lot in the back of my car. For now it's still a great set for everything other than light gun games.

>>7795964
I have a KV-FS120 from 2005/6 and the geometry is so bad I'm debating throwing it out. 90s/curved Trinitrons are where it's at, don't waste your time on the flatscreens unless it's all you can find

>>7796324
had this problem on one of my sets before. turns out it was just the shitty extension cord i was using.

What's the most affordable way to downscale to 240p?

is it possible that some monitors have incorrect video bandwidth in their specs?

if you look at say, the Samsung SyncMaster 750S claims a bandwidth of 110 MHz, but it defaults at 1280 x 1024 at 66 Hz but all calculators i found claim you would need a video bandwidth of 129.8 MHz

acceptable losses or some hidden potential?

>>7798209
Retrotink

>>7798209
Downscale what

>>7798260
dude its common knowledge that virtually every monitor can go above the listed specs, source: my ass but I remember the actual "maximum bandwidth" being [specified bandwith]*1.1 or something like that
also if I'm being honest going above the recommended spec is kind of a gimmick

>>7796084
>what does it mean

Try degausing?

>>7796084
Record it. Might be arcing (bad) or the degaussing coil vibrating (benign).

>>7796324
Bad H sync. Color is still good and focus is good. Distortion is linear with H lines being jerked around. So its got to be the sync. Could be a bad drive or power supply issue. If you can trace back the fault it should be fixable and cheap.

>>7798260
You can usually tell if the drive is being overdriven. Most displays will outright tell you you're out of range. Some dont. If you hear whine, stop.

>>7796084
is it a buzz or a hiss?

IM GOING TO GO FUCKING CRAZY.
Why the FUCK is it imposible to get integer scaling to work properly on a 4:3 monitor on fucking retroarch ? I tried every damn resolution and NONE work properly and fill the screen. What the fuck am I doing wrong bros ? 1280x960 should scale properly right ? So why am I still getting black bars and disableing it fucks up my scanlines ? No fucking core works Im going to fucking shoot those freetards for making me waste my time FUCK.

>>7801131
Buy real hardware.

Sony 2950

How bad for the tube can flashover be for the tube if there's no picture distortion and barely makes any noise ?

>>7798209
gbs control, it's like $40 worth of parts if you build it yourself

>>7798260
110 khz or khz?

>>7802049
mhz or khz* lol

>>7802049
>>7802076
>>7798260
I think you may be confusing max khz with max mhz

>>7792459

It's a nice looking monitor, I would be in if I didn't live in British Columbia. The shipping costs would not be worth it.

Image related is Earthworm Jim 2 SNES running on BSNES through Retroacrh with no shaders. Just on a VGA CRT at 1024x768 @85hz. This monitor is a little off in the colour, But adjust it in the Nvidia settings panel, and I can get some really nice results.

>>7801131
>What the fuck am I doing wrong bros
literally everything
https://youtu.be/n3tA3PvpSUQ
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Display_FAQ#240p.2F480i
>>7802472
you too

>>7801131
I think you are supposed to use a superresolution of 2560 x 480 or 2560 x 240

>switch picture setting from user to sport
>instantly looks brighter, blacks are actually black and not light grey and the colours are better

why did I only just do this

Anyone know if it's normal for a crt to make a short low buzz sound when it's first plugged in? I've lived with them all my life, but I've been moving stuff around and noticed it. It just makes the sound only for the instance when I plug it in, then there's no sound till I turn it on. Is this just the tube charging up?

whats that utility for vga monitors that allows you to add more resolutions and shit?

>>7803408
CRU?
Is this the one that you are searching for? >>7799637

Is it possible to use a ps1 light gun w/ mame? Assuming I got like a raspberry pi or something on my crt.

>>7799637
arigatou

how hard is increasing the brightness on something if its a bit dim? (also the red is a bit weak but i believe that is a much more complicated procedure that isnt needed)

>>7803269
Yeah

>>7803496
>Is it possible to use a ps1 light gun w/ mame?

I think the sinden is the only one that works with mame, although you may be able to use a ps1 guncon through MAME (or whatever arcade shit) via Mister with an adapter

Finished recapping my boy and calibrated him as best as I could. I think it came out great. Modded it to have s-video and also stereo audio out through the headphone jack. Is there any way to reduce static noise from the speaker? Even if the sound is turned all the way down it still buzzes. Not a huge deal since you can't hear it when it's playing sound but still I'm curious if there's anything that can be done.

>>7803762
I used the test suite on my Dreamcast but I think I'll fine tune the positions a bit more on my genesis since I'll be using that more often

>>7801131
>Why the FUCK is it imposible to get integer scaling to work properly on a 4:3 monitor on fucking retroarch ?
have you gone into scaling?

hey y'all. i've been searching around for TVs to use mostly with 5th-6th gen consoles and i found a couple free ones online, but i need some help choosing between them.
>Sony KV-34HS420 (i think)
>34", 16:9, flat, digital
>component inputs accept 1080i/720p/480p/480i signals
>200 fucking pounds
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-H847hDGkt9r/p_158KV34HS4/Sony-KV-34HS420.html
i would really like this giant but it also worries me. i read that this model has a high d board failure rate on reddit and i don't want to break my back carrying it up the steps and then back down again if i have issues and need to toss it out. the guy on facebook marketplace says it works well though, and in youtube videos it seems pretty good.
>Toshiba MW20FP1
>20", 4:3, flat, digital
>only has composite inputs(?)
>64 pounds
i guess i'm going to go with the first one. typing all this out helped me make the decision. after i found out the toshiba tv only has composite inputs it seems pointless.

>>7804236
If the top one is the photo they posted, that's a KD-34XBR970. Essentially the same set, except better audio (HS420 has 10W stereo, XBR has 7.5W stereo paired with 15w sub) and has a digital (ATSC) tuner so can actually still pick up OTA broadcasts.

Worth noting, the Sony is going to scale and add some delay to what you're feeding it; It's nice for 6th and 7th gen (plus media consumption), but it doesn't make 240p content look the nicest, so 5th gen is going to suffer.

>>7804264
thanks for identifying it.
>it doesn't make 240p content look the nicest, so 5th gen is going to suffer.
damn it, i guess i'll wait for new TVs to pop up

>>7802764
>>7802932
It's fucked. I tried both 3840x480 and 2560x480. Integer scaling stopped working at all it seems. Best results I got was using 1280x960 with integer and adjusting picture size directly on the monitor but it doesn't look right

>>7804325
In the off chance it's cutting off unused raster, try 224px vertical instead of 240.

>>7804359
>>7804325
Fixed it. Turns out retroarch UI is fucking garbage and scaling is bugged. Had to fuck with the aspect ratio directly in the config. It's all good now.

>>7804325
>>7804395
its not bugged, you have to press the space bar once to reset the value, after that it should scale correctly

>>7771598
Bros, my PC monitor's suddenly refusing to properly display the sides of the image. When I try to move the image to the side, I can see the rest of the screen, but when I squash it, the image becomes smaller, but the sides remain hidden. Top and bottom are just missing.
It's like the whole screen is zoomed in just enough to hide top and bottom.
I tired degaussing, messing around the settings, changing it through the nvidia control panel. Anyone know what this might be?

>>7801624
This is sick

>>7803502
They are both very easy if you open it up and turn the potentiometers in the back

>>7804593
Are you using a digital to analog converter?

>>7802764
>you too

anything above 1280 is basically "out of range" on this monitor. I am using Linuxx, and tried adding some of my own custom resolutions. But the monitor goes into stand-by mode or gives me an "out of range" message. But I think I am being limited by a VGA-to-DVI dongle. I may try using the VGA port on the motherboard, I could either remove the video card and go with the intel on-board graphics. Or just switch to the onboard graphics as the main GPU. For now I can only really get 640x480 at the lowest with 80hz or 60hz. 60hz looks like RGB, since it has no scanlines and super sharp pixels.

>>7805062
No, it's plugged directly into the GPU with VGA.

>>7805335
I think loonix is being garbage as usual and is lying to you. Its not sending a proper signal at the resolution it tells you it does. 3580x480 is a 31.5K signal and no monitor of this era will have any trouble with this. My monitor doesnt have any crazy auto-scan or multiscan shit and it can handle 70k signals no pb. So something is fucky in your setup. Either the software or the dongle. But if my 5 dorra dongle can do it no reason for your adapter to not work.

>>7805335
>But I think I am being limited by a VGA-to-DVI dongle
There is no limit there, it's the same signal (moody likely). Give us your modeline you're using

>>7805429
>There is no limit there, it's the same signal (moody likely). Give us your modeline you're using

No need. I found the problem. But there is nothing I can do about it right now. I use Linux on this machine. The issue really comes from the Nvidia closed drivers not recognizing my CRT with a proper profile, and giving it a generic profile. Xrandr gives me a "BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)" error. I could probably find a work around. Or maybe switch to some open source drivers?

>>7805742
Loonix strikes again. The open source drivers cant hurt I guess.

>>7805860
>Loonix
When will these people grow up and just use a functional OS?

Redpill me on jvc i'art

>>7806206
Great sets, don't overpay

>>7771598
Looking good? (PS3 emulating vice city)

>>7804236
Get a 27'' 4:3 maximum. Don't get some HD CRT shit or some giant ass TV that's 100+ pounds.

If I want to record footage of ps2 games that look as accurate as possible to a crt tv, would I be better off emulating via pcsx2 with crt filters?

>>7807482
Just run your ps2 through the VCR. You can surely still buy blank tapes.

>>7804236
That top TV really is best for 6th and 7th gen stuff. So many Wii games were built around 720x480 and look really damn nice on a proper 16:9 tube, as well as all the GCN/PS2/XBOX stuff that likes that format. It'll do 5th gen well enough as long as you don't mind black bars or a stretched image but it isn't ideal

>>7807482
you should avoid using crt filters on videos, there are too many variables out of your control that can make them look like shit
also I don't know what you need the footage for, but combining "real life" footage of the game running on the crt and high quality game captures usually gets the point across
like this https://youtu.be/rN0vEa8Y4J4?t=279

>>7774432
speaking of color quality i want a crt to watch anime but the aspect ratio is a problem with the newer ones. are wide screen crts worth it or do i get the boxy one and deal with the crop?

>>7807747
Deal with letterboxing.

>>7803762
from recapping, what did you notice changing as a result?

>>7808387
So before, there was a part on the left side that would shake a little bit with brighter colors. That has completely gone away. Other than that there weren't any other changes I noticed. I tested all 70-some caps and only 2 of them were just barely reading high esr. The rest of them were in spec. A recap wasn't really needed on this one, but I decided to do it anyway as preventative maintenance since I was working on some mods in it anyway. When I bought the tv, the owner basically said that they only used it while traveling in their rv. So I think it's had relatively little use compared to something like a living room set. It's also the first crt I've actually taken apart and worked on, so more than anything it was a great learning experience.

>>7809064
have you recapped any monitors with geometry problems before? i have a couple monitors that are basically wavy when the background scrolls in 2d games. cant be fixed in menus so i am thinking about recapping.

>>7776256
Man I want a bloody trinitron, this guy is the luckiest cunt alive.

>>7809087
Haven't recapped any monitors, but I've recapped many gamegears, some of which had very similar screen issues to that where it'd be all wavy when scrolling. Recapping fixed that completely. It's probably worth giving yours a try.

I just bought a Sony Trinitron Wega today.

hey bros, i live in russia and was trying to buy a tv on a local ebay rip off and I just realized the the tv is probably gonna be PAL, right? I found its manual online and it says
Colour system:
PAL, SECAM
NTSC 3.58, 4.43 (only Video In)
What does that mean? It's Sony KV-21LT1K, seems to be the easiest available to me. Is it worth it?

>>7809325
It has a scart port on the rear you'll be fine.

modded my ps2 and I gotta say it's nice playing games like silent hill 2 without paying 100 bucks

>>7809416
>>7809420
looks nice anon. How difficult or expensive is it to mod a ps2? What's the best storage option?

JVC d series are the best consumer sets

>>7810416
if you just want to softmod it may cost as much as a hard drive or a burned dvd

just finished up setting up my den, what do i think of it?

>>7809416
>>7809420
same but I gotta say it's worth using component or RGB if you can

>>7810732
too many TVs, not enough VCRs

>>7810732
What’s in the safe?

>>7810724
Oh? Is it real easy to softmod it and play games from the harddrive?

>>7810732
Too many composite inputs, no Saturn.

>>7810773
I think that's a fridge.

>>7810905
Yes, if you are using an internal HDD you can literally just raw copy a FreeHDBoot disk image to it and the PS2 will recognise it and boot it. Then you can transfer games with HDL Dump GUI and run them with OpenPS2Loader.
Other methods of softmodding a PS2 include buying a FreeMCBoot memory card or burning a FreeDVDBoot disc.

>>7810912
It’s a old cabinet from a tattoo shop actually, I don’t think anything is in it right now and the two big ones on the right have S video on the back

>>7810952
Oh wow that's nice and easy.

>>7810956
S-video is a nice upgrade, you should switch a couple consoles over to it.

>>7810416
i recently remembered that i had a ps2 i haven't touched in a while and bought some stuff to mod it this past week. i am following this guide and it'll probably help you out: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-the-great-ps2-aio-guide.30219/

the best storage option is an internal hard drive so you would need either a network adapter if you have a fat ps2 or an hdd connection kit that only works with a certain slim model according to the above link. you could also run games off of smb or connect an external hard drive through the usb ports but it's only usb 1.1 so it'll be real slow.

my costs in usd (taxes & shipping included) :
>official network adapter: $13.65
there are unofficial ones but none of them have a working ethernet port. it might be hard to find one at this price by the way, i think they're typically around $20.
>sata adapter: $19.12
the official network adapter only supports ide hard drives.
>500gb hard drive: $30.02
i probably should've gotten a smaller drive to save a few more bucks. ps2 games are only a couple gbs i think.

so i spent $62.79 in all. i haven't modded it yet but i plan on going with the freehdboot method since i'm too cheap to buy a $10 fmcb memory card and i haven't owned a computer with a dvd burner in a while. they all seem easy enough though, so i'll get to it tomorrow night.

speaking of which i don't actually own a crt tv and was wondering if anybody can recommend a cheap component cable and a component to hdmi adapter to use with my modern tv until i find a crt. i keep seeing recommendations to get the oem cable but i am not paying $60 for some wires, damn it.

>>7811067
>i keep seeing recommendations to get the oem cable but i am not paying $60 for some wires, damn it.
I paid $250 just for official gamecube components lol. Thanks for that guide.

Honestly kinda surprised at how much of a difference there is between two CRTs
These are both via RGB at the same time using a powered SCART distributor

>>7811308
dont tell anyone you found out about this

>>7784052
>>7789421
Ended up buying a scan of the service manual from analogalley. (It was pretty cheap, definitely reccomend them.)
Despite having a lot of user adjustable parameters accessible via the on-screen display, there is no service menu. Everything is adjusted internally. Guess this model was made when RCA was transitioning over from entirely manual adjustment to just having a service menu.
After browsing through everything that can be adjusted it seems that the horizontal size simply isn't adjustable at all. I'll just have to live with a little more horizontal overscan than I would like.
Still going to recap it and mod it to accept RGBs.

>>7811308
brands?
are you sure they both handle rgb trough scart?

Is this JVC a AV-27D305? I just saw it on craigslist for $25.

>>7810416
loading games off an hdd is the way to go, but you can even load games off a usb drive if you're alright with slightly loader load times (this is most noticeable in games with a lot of screen transitions like rpgs)

cool tv

got a shitty MIvar and boy oh boy this bitch's big
OG Xbox looks good though, even if i'm using composite for now

>>7811681
They're both RGB. The SCART distributor turns the composite into a sync-only signal.
On the left is an Amiga monitor by Philips from the late 80's. This one only does RGB. One of the nicest 15khz-only monitors you could get for an Amiga back in the day.
On the right is a Matsui-branded flat CRT with a Thomson tube. This supports RGB and composite but the latter only does colors with PAL and that's a 60hz video from an SFC. This was cheap and shitty even when it was new.
Looking at footage from emulators it seems the Philips is pretty much an exact match in terms of colours whereas the Matsui is just plain wrong.

>>7811308

They both need a proper color calibration with a colorimeter if you are serious about it. Right has too much blue saturation.

>>7811914
Pretty sure the Matsui can't even be calibrated since the OSD is very very limited and afaik there's no service menu or suitable pots on the inside either.
The Philips on the other hand is good enough for me. Though it is a fully analog device so I could calibrate if necessary.
It doesn't bother me too much. Just figured it was interesting how big the difference was. I noticed it almost immediately in games since greys are almost completely different between the two.

>>7786645
i use one, it's worth it.

Started a tandem FF7 playthrough with my friend over a year ago, had to put it on hold because of covid, but we finally got back in gear this weekend. Every time I play this game I appreciate the pre-rendered backgrounds more and more.

>>7812612
>with my friend
I wish I could still do this sometimes. Had to move to England, so all friends were left behind, apart from one that moved to Oxford. One of the reasons I'm going back to studying is so I can change careers and move close to him. He also wishes we could play PSX and PS2 games on a CRT like the old times.

Redpill me on conecting your PC to a crt tv. Some articles I found mention some weird shit like installing some outdated AMD card driver and shit and it's all for windows. I am a gnu/linux user with an nvidia card, is there any hope for me?

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-ultrascan-p1110-crt-monitor-21/

Is it a good crt to burn my eyes out and get cancer?

Anyone have the " >RGB " s o y wojak image that pokes fun at the MyLifeInGaming crew?
I love crts but that pic cracks me up somethin fierce.

>>7811706
just picked it up and that is the right model. messed around with it a little and it's nice although it is pretty dim.

>>7811706
>>7812952
also i forgot how much it strains my eyes to look at a crt screen. i might post pics in a few days

>>7811836
I know where you live.

>>7812847
sure looks like one

>>7812951

>>7812992

needs more hair thinning desu

odin sphere is a very pretty game, shame about my fucked geo on the right. Can't do anything about it without opening it up though and I don't wanna die. Gonna try 240p test suite tomorrow because I'm constantly fucking with it trying to get it straight.

>>7812847
>https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-ultrascan-p1110-crt-monitor-21/

Looks fine for a 21inch. Dell generally has very good quality control when it comes to monitors.

>>7810732
Not bad. You should get a distribution amplifier so that both the left and the right TV display the same picture, since it might be awkward for multiplayer games to crowd around a TV off to the side.

>>7810732

One for the Gore thread.

>>7812672
That sucks, bro. A lot of my good friends have moved far away, too. I reconnected with an old high school buddy who stayed local and we get together every now and again and usually try to speedrun some RPG in a single weekend. We make a ton of great food, have a little vodka and chill. They're some of the best times I've had in recent years, and I'm deeply grateful for them.

are virtual crts going to be a viable alternative by the time the real ones are impossible to obtain?

>>7813506
Comfy, but you need a Saturn.

>>7813506
Ignore this homosexual good sir -> >>7813654

>>7813654
I only have the systems that I was into while growing up. By the time I started looking up good Saturn titles, they were fucking stupid expensive, so I put it on the back burner. Has that bubble burst yet or what?

>>7813643
Only if you're retarded.

>>7813673
No, but it is much easier now to play burned games now so it's probably the most accessible it's been in years if you don't mind having cope disks.

>>7813643
>by the time the real ones are impossible to obtain?
This is not going to happen within our lifetimes. Don't worry about it.

>>7813506
Source on entertainment center?

>>7813662
>>7813673
>>7813703
Collecting is expensive but actually just playing games is pretty cheap if you import a console and flash it to play backups. It's the best library nobody has ever played.

>>7813754
I know, but its fun to speculate

>>7813643
>composite and audio jacks converging into a single, thin wire
>perfectly clean signal from composite
>super scratched tube, yet the case looks pristine
I'd rather use a filter than play through this unimmersive garbage.

>>7813794
The end drawers with the speakers on them are each separate pieces I think I got from Ikea. I bought the main bit from Amazon, not sure if you might be able to find it elsewhere:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CZYVZQJ

>>7772914
ALL HAIL THE CRTOWER

>>7771598
Serial Experiments Lain has never been better

is there a site with recommended settings like rtings but for crt displays

>>7812992
Late response but thank you dude

>>7813903
It's weird to think that this is like, a fun thing for you. I remember watching the DVDs when they were brand new on my old family's CRT TV.

Getting old is weird.

>>7814008
Not that anon but I'm a zoomer who remembers watching DVDs on the family CRT as well but it still feels fun going back after not owning a CRT for like a decade. Maybe a decade feels longer when you're younger though.

>>7771903
What is that giant movie projector looking thing in the middle?

>>7813810
the case is full of scratches, dents and dust too, they're just hard to see at that angle
the rf and composite tvs actually have artifacts like they're supposed to, I accidentally toggled it off when I took the screenshot
I have no excuse for the cables tho

>>7814073
I'm 35, so no. I just don't feel the need to own a CRT. I also don't live in a big living space and share it with my wife. I'm pretty content with having our single 4k LCD TV though. Having a CRT to me just feels unnecessary.

>>7814273
>married
>wifey doesnt let him have fun
>i-its ok i didnt want to anyway
copium

>>7814281
...no? We just want to have kids soon, and I have student loans to pay off, etc. and I also see video games as more of a distraction these days rather than something I need to spend all my time and disposable income on.

>>7814302
Not him, but I don't think it matters. Good for you for having your priories straight, but no one is going to care. We are CRT junkies and most would rather play it on the original hardware. BTW, don't easily get baited by buzzwords. Why are you in a CRT though if you don't own one, nor are interested in the subject? Genuinely curious

>>7814328
he wants one and came here to cope

>>7814328
My wife's kid wants one to play the RetroN V with.

>>7814328
I reacted to seeing the person posting the lain picture. That's basically it. People can see stuff in the catalog without going into a thread.

>>7814558
Don't ever reply to me or this thread ever again

>>7814302
*whip snapping noises*

Hello

>>7814756
nice

>>7814081
Reel to reel player

>>7814756
I used to have that same 1680x1050 monitor.

>>7814081
>>7814820
Have zoomers never seen like pulp fiction where they use these?

>>7814008
The fact that CRTs have become a "thing" at all is still a bit weird to me. When flatscreens started to hit the market in the early and mid 2000s, literally everyone I knew was stoked to upgrade, and very few seemed to care or even notice the flaws when playing older hardware on it. The worst offense was probably audio, since flatscreens have such garbage built-in speakers, and that's something normies care about even LESS than video quality.

I played far too many blurry, de-saturated games with horrible, tinny audio that I held onto my CRT until the bitter end. I was born in '86, and there was only about a year during 2013-2014 that I didn't have a CRT in my ownership.

>>7813810
>super scratched tube, yet the case looks pristine
This is what gets me the most. Tubes are rarely scratched unless the thing got dropped, and then the case would have probably exploded first, based on the size of the thing. This was just some zoomer who thinks CRT screens are like DS/Game Boy screens or whatever.

Is it just me, or do PS2 games look inherently worse than PS1 games on CRT tvs? The image is always sharper and more defined on my PS1.

>>7815401
maybe it's 240p instead of 480i

should i try my luck with an Amazon RBG cable for Xbox or go safe and buy one on RetrogamingcableUK for three times the price?

>>7814008
I remember CRTs vaguely from my childhood, but I’ve grown up mostly around lcd, so watching these old anime on nice crt sets and monitors is something else for me

>>7815482
If you know how to solder you can take a XB360 component cable and a regular xbox cable and make an RGB cable for xbox.

got 240p test suite running and got it as square as I could but can't do anything else without opening it up. Also the difference between NTSC and PAL is actually kind of shocking. The menu image on NTSC is way too large, and PAL is way too small.