/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7812723
Don't believe anyone who says Gen 1 was the best or even very good for a Pokemon game. Those are nostalgia fans not Pokemon fans

just use missingno to get them candies bro nobody will care

>>7812723
>Having to buy the game twice to get all of the pokemon
>having to preform a glitch to catch mew to complete the Pokédex

>>7812738
It could be argued, real Pokemon fans are those who were invested in the story and lore, which was strongest in G1, while everyone else is just E sports scum.

>>7812740
Im afraid to corrupt my save

>>7812787
Are you joking?

>>7812787
youre actually retarded
like 3rd grade-tier shit-your-pants retarded

>>7812787
That only happens if you actually catch missingno.
Just it merely appearing is no problem. Just don't catch it.

>>7812815
Even this is unlikely to happen, I caught Missingo all the time.

>>7812746
no gen will ever be as bad as 4th gen

>buy two games
>now buy game 1.5 to get variants
>now buy this spinoff to get one legendary
>now play 5 full-length GBA games and catch everything that isn't in the DS games
>now play 2 gamecube games that are slow as fucking molasses to get through, including massive purification grind, the most fucktarded capture system in the series history, and an extra mode with 100 fucking battles
>now find a Japanese game with the legendaries that were basically never released at all in the west (or import the JP Colosseum pre-order bonus disk, oh yeah you need to get the western one too because FUCK YOU)
>don't forget to pad out your collection if needed with shit from the 2 more DS games we made!
>feel free to use WiFi to trade a lv100 Lugia for my lv2 Pidgey

I completed the Pearl pokedex without wifi, and it ensured that I would never touch a pokemon game ever again. Don't be a retard and waste your life like I did on this meaningless garbage.

>>7812840
Yeah i did too i think the most thats ever happened to one of my save games is the Pokemon League display thing in the PC.
>Hall of Fame
or whatever, But never outright lost a save and had to start all over.

>>7812723
Use the Exp. Share

>>7812738
Gen 1 is fine, but I think Gen 2 is the best part of Pokémon before the 21st century. It also has the best Ghost Pokémon.

>>7812854
Meant to say the hall of fame was screwed but thats it minor typo

>>7812842
Is it true that gen 4 had broken trainer AI too?

>>7812764
I don't really think even that was strongest in the first game and either way the remakes were better.

>>7812857
This I agree with.

>>7812738
I only played "gen" red n' blue. I owned and 100% both. When I heard they were making more games I wasn't too excited just to do the same thing again. Its not like anything changes to the game play. The formula is always the same. Catch, train, battle and repeat. Becuase of this I had no interest to play another. To me its the same game each game. Adding / replacing items, pokemon & characters while updating the graphics doesn't make it a different game. That's like saying Solitare on windows 3.1 is a different game then Solitare on windows 10. I think people should stop referneing to Pokémon games as "generation" or "series" as "version" is much more fitting.

>>7812857
Weird, for some reason I thought Misdreavus was gen 3 or 4. And I only played the first two gens as a kid. I guess I didn't explore Mt Silver enough to ever find her.

>>7812897
They're pretty late on in the game. They're also kind of a goddamn bitch to catch, because of Perish Song. At least they were when I captured one in Gen 5, where they appear wild at around Lv. 40 or higher, I don't remember if I ever even caught one back in Gen 2, that was long as fuck ago.

Worth the trouble though.

>>7812897
>>7812857
You know what Gen 2 pokemon nobody ever talks about Stantler. Its actually not that bad in gen 2 especially with the Stat experience.
So one can max level all its stats.

>won a competition to be one of like 50 people in Europe to have a legitimate mew in red/blue
>Get him
>151 pokemon
>Beat friend in the whole world gets jealous
>Won't speak to me for weeks
>Says he won't be my friend unless we clone mew
>I say no
>He doesn't speak to me
>Eventually give in
>We attempt to clone mew using clone trade glitch
>One Pokémon gets deleted
>We send a random caterpie to die
>....
>The caterpie comes out on both ends
>We fucked it up
>My legit mew is gone

Im Still fucking pissed. Were friends to this day though and every few years when we get drunk we bring it up and have a huge laugh about it. Fucking asshole.

>>7812874
don't know, I only got addicted to it enough to know about how to get the various pokemon

if I recall correctly, you also had some annoying as fuck item hunt quests in the games in order to get certain rare items needed for evolutions

>>7812914
Holy shit, F anon

>>7812886
I think most series are like that, it just depends on what appeals more. I loved the first game, 100% Blue and then Yellow and just wanted more. Which Gold and Silver certainly delivered. Yeah it's more of the same kind pf thing but it's more fleshed out, there are more monsters and strategies etc. After that it felt like diminishing returns with Ruby, Sapphire etc even if I thought they were still good games.

But like I say most series are like that it just depends what you like. To me I was mostly done with Mario after the first game, I've just never found platformers all that compelling. 2 was my favorite but I was never really itching for more. I played 3 less and could count on my hands the number of times I've played World or any game since. Not that I doubt their quality but to me all platformers feel pretty samey in a way that never grabbed me much.

All this is just to say that both our opinions are fine but I'd give more weight to someone who actually likes Mario over me and likewise with Pokemon and someone who only mildly got into it.

OP here, I did at least 100 encounters on Pokemon mansion 3rd floor and I cant find Magmar... Im about to fucking quit.. this is cancer.

>>7812914
>Were friends to this day though and every few years when we get drunk we bring it up and have a huge laugh about it.
Based and wholesome.

>>7812914
That was real petty of him, but that's how kids can be, and at least your friendship endured.

Its not thet bad. Dragonyte is based anyway

>>7812738
Ok zoomer

>>7813116
Random but if you're trying to catch Scyther or Pinser. You can do the Missingno glitch to get all the Safari zone pokemon to appear in cinnebar.
>Fly to Fucshia city
>Walk into the safari zone
>pay the 500 dollars
>Turn around leave
>Fly to viridian
>Talk to the "how to catch a pokemon guy"
>Let him show you how to catch a pokemon
>Fly back to cinnebar
>Surf on the side
>All pokemon catchable in the safari zone
>Are now on the side of cinnebar and can be caught with master balls
>Yes that includes Chansey, Kangeskhan scyther and pinser

>>7812967
That sounds like fucking crazy talk to me becuase Mario 3 is a work of art. Do you really consider ANY Pokémon game to be a work of art? I'm not trying to attack you but I really want to know how you can compare the two? Pokémon as popular as it was during its hayday will never be on the same level Mario. You're entitled to your opinion but I strongly disagree. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

>>7813239
Dragonite in gen 1 is just a hyper beam machine which is fucking amazing how op it was

I completed the pokemon 100 % legit with no glitches or cheats, and level grinding was far from the most tedious part. Just get exp share and do the pokemon league a bunch of times while listening to a podcast. The worst was having to beat pretty much the whole game again to get the other fossil pokemon.

>>7813315
I'm not saying Mario 3 isn't well crafted, but it's a genre of game I don't really care about. I might even go so far as to agree that it's objectively better than Pokemon but it still doesn't change the point.

>>7813315
>any game ever
>work of art
Hows high school, anon?

>>7812787
Dude, I've done that glitch hundreds of times. You'll be fine.

Only if you want to spend a shitton of money and do it the most autistically authentic way possible, sure. There's a lot of shortcuts you could take here with homebrew/flashcarts, IMO.
>>7812842

>buy two games
>now buy game 1.5 to get variants
Buy one game and a flash cart for the others. Or just do it for all three honestly (I don't think you need the original cart for 4 -> 5 or 3 -> 4)
>now buy this spinoff to get one legendary
That shit was all over GTS in the day. If you never gone one, worst case you could PkHex inject an authentic Manaphy from a Project Pokemon rip of it. Same as real deal

>now play 5 full-length GBA games and catch everything that isn't in the DS games
Unfortunately true
>now play 2 gamecube games that are slow as fucking molasses to get through, including massive purification grind, the most fucktarded capture system in the series history, and an extra mode with 100 fucking battles
Extra 100 battles is not entirely necessary if you rely on PkHex again. IMO there's no foul in injecting wonder cards or event pokemon into your games. Not everyone in the US could go to fucking Dallas for SpaceC Deoxys. Injecting a PkHex event version won't look any different and should count. Same goes for Eon ticket for Ho-Oh and Lugia. If you get Ho-Oh through an event ticket injection, you don't need Mt. Battle nor XD's playthrough at all.
>now find a Japanese game with the legendaries that were basically never released at all in the west (or import the JP Colosseum pre-order bonus disk, oh yeah you need to get the western one too because FUCK YOU)
Spending $150 on a Jirachi disk and doing a second playthrough (plus cost of JP game plus disk) for Colosseum is pants on head retarded.
Get a Wii (I got one for $10), load up Nintendon't, which can natively interface with GBA - GCN link, and run the JIrachi disk on it for you US save.
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>>7812842
>>7813584
Next, go find a Japanese Celebi ISO, hex edit the ISO to point at the NA version of Colosseum, and also to export to NA versions of the game. Enjoy your Agate Celebi from your NA save file.

>don't forget to pad out your collection if needed with shit from the 2 more DS games we made!
All 386 can be gotten in RSEFrLgE + Colosseum. HG/SS shouldn't be necessary.
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>>7812914
Remember the competition? You could look on project pokemon for the file, extract the save, and inject Mew into it using PkHex.


>>7813261
100% abused this in my gen 1-8 playthrough I'm going on. Fuck gen 1 encounter rates.

>>7813261
Can only be caught with master ball, though? Any reason for that?

>>7812738
I never stopped liking Pokemon until this last Gen.
Gen 1 is magic, the limitations and the fact that htere was no world.
Gen 2 is a lazy expansion but it rides the intertia so it's all good.
Gen 3 expanded on the original idea and began to form what is modern pokemon, it felt fresh.
Gen 4 was just an expansion of that, lazy but it worked because of inertia.
Gen 5, totally new world, new story felt fresh but hindered by the graphcs and style.
Gen 6. lazy rehash but the 3D graphics saved it since it was new.
Gen 7. same gameplay super lazy but the island settings saved it despite being handholdy as shit.
Gen 8. it didn't have any real gimmicks to save it anymore it just safe and predictable.

So pokemon had been coasting for many gens now and a few gimmicks helped it stay relevant but really it's only gen1 and 3 where it felt like they cared.

Just don't fucking do it if you don't like it, Holy shit you whine ass

>>7813584
> XD
die

>>7813424
>games aren't art
Yes things that contain music, animation, 3d artwork, and stories couldn't possibly be art. You're a retard.

>>7813630
You can use any ball, but you may as well duplicate the master ball and just use one of them.

>>7813663
Interesting. To me Gen 1 was a great idea that was fun but rough around the edges. Gen 2 polished it and produced a great game with tons to do. Gen 3 was more of the same with some additions that were nice but not game changing. Gen 4 was more of the same and good in it's own right but more of the same so I beat but didn't 100% it. That's the last I've played so far.

>>7813734
??? Its called Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness you fuckwit

It's a travesty to the entire world that Pokemon is legal and methamphetamine is not. THEY'RE THE SAME SHIT. Except meth is better.

>>7812842
>>now play 2 gamecube games that are slow as fucking molasses to get through, including massive purification grind, the most fucktarded capture system in the series history, and an extra mode with 100 fucking battles
based
XD is good but i love to see anyone shit talk those games, they're so fucking overrated

>>7813584
>3 -> 4
You definitely need the DS and GBA games to both be legit, at least not flash carts

>>7812738
Gen 1 was the best when you take into account everything else that came with it. Pokemon Stadium for postgame, Pokemon Snap, Pinball, etc. Even the main game of Gen 1 is generally better than the most recent games, given it has actual dungeons and more freedom.

>>7813424
>games
>art
Yes, bitch.

>>7814121
I don't consider any of that part of Gen 1 but even if I did it wouldn't make it better.

>>7813424
Why can't video games be art?

>>7812842
8th gen
>You can't even catch em all

>>7813584
>>7813595

>this shit is avoidable if you just cheat and hack and use modded saves

Might as well just give yourself a full pokedex from a downloaded save file if you're going to cheat and call it legit just because you used other people's legit source data. You went to incredible length and detail in the pursuit of an idiotic addition to the thread.

>>7814059
I have no idea why people like those games, admittedly I ended up skipping XD and just getting a Lugia from HG, but holy shit was Colosseum an awful game. The music was good. The only other thing I can think of for why people liked it was that you played as an edgelord stealing pokemon from more bigger, more retarded-looking edgelords, and it had espeon and umbreon as main starters, meaning all the furries could beat their meat to the idea of driving around arizona with their favorite fuckmons. Every little thing about that game is fucking awful otherwise, I mean fucking hell does colosseum suck dicks.

>>7812746
>>7812842
The idea is to have friends who own the other games and trade with them, not buying everything yourself.

>>7813663
I wouldn't call gen II lazy. It's basically an expansion of the first gen, yes, but I think that's a great thing. It's the only other generation that actually maintains the essence of the first gen while still improving on it. With gen III everything started to stray further and further from that, for better or worse.

>>7812723
The real cancer in red/blue is getting 9999 coins or whatever it is for porygon

your fault for caring about having everything legit.

>>7813663
gen 3 was where things peaked with me. things like contests, the battle frontier in emerald & colosseum's MT. battle & additional cups were pretty fun.

i only cared about gen 4 for the online play and pretty much dropped off after that.

>>7812842
>feel free to use WiFi to trade a lv100 Lugia for my lv2 Pidgey
shit like this is why i never used the GTS ever.

the offers were so unrealistic that i'm almost convinced that they were someone using the GTS to trade over pokemon from another game but they didn't have friends or an extra DS.

is the GTS still a thing in later gens?

>>7812723
JRPG's are nothing but padding and menu navigation
Take away everything that makes a game fun, stretch the boring parts and the number crunching for hours and hours, add some weird weeb story to justify the numbers that go up, you have a JRPG.

I'm kinda on the same train but I'm trying to complete the dex in my Silver cart since I recently replaced the battery.
Without trading or completing the Gen 1 games, you can get up to 190 or 199 in Silver alone so I'm using the coin case glitch to get the Gen 1 legendaries and starters, Celebi, trade evos, and Gold exclusives.
Did the cloning glitch to get all the Johto starters and will clone the evo stones since you just get one of each.
Somehow this looks more feasible than a Gen 1 game.

>>7812842
Holy shit, this. Completing a Gen 4 dex was pure pain and I can't even explain what was Game Freak thinking when designing methods to complete these dexes. They just tried to come up with the most convoluted, expensive and uncomfortable way possible.
Hell, even completing an Emerald or Firered dex was already convoluted already due to NEEDING all games.

>>7818075
>is the GTS still a thing in later gens?
Yes and not only is it still as bad as ever with the unrealistic trades, it's not even in the actual games anymore and instead moved to the disgrace that is Pokémon Home and only on Home's mobile version.