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Recently got back into shooting games and arcade sticks, I have to give it to them, they have revitalized my interest in video games --- everything was bland before!!

It's Danmakus mostly (Cave & Touhou), the gameplay is so dense and interesting, and arcade sticks give really enjoyable feedback (much more fun than keyboard or controllers!~!).... though I find they have the best presentation. Danmakus = bullet hells in case you were wondering, think Dodonpachi or Dragon Blaze or Touhou (your screen is full of bullets and you have to twitch dodge like a maniac lol!).

Is presentation an important part of your enjoyment of games /vr/? For example, if I were to take your favorite game and change its art, music and characters, but leave the level design and gameplay the same, would you still like it?

>> No.7774627 [DELETED] 

>spic won't post the strikers 2-alls replays
>bong won't post the final fight hardest dips 1cc replay
Why are Europeans so dishonest?

>> No.7774635
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Ive been practicing Esprade 2 hours a day for the last 2 months. Please kill me.

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>>7774635
cool setup. what's your score? also what's that thing around the balltop?

>> No.7774651

>>7774649
23 mill

>> No.7774664

>>7774651
Nice

>> No.7774694 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
Was it a pretty rough transition?

>> No.7774868 [DELETED] 

What does Marion's puffy feet smell like?

>> No.7774875
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>>7774635
Based speakers anon. I use the same ones for my kitchen setup

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>>7774875
fuck your rotation metadata

>> No.7774903

>>7774878
nice what's the goal for galuda?

>> No.7774905

>>7774903
My goal for any shmup is 1cc because I suck ass at them
I like playing TSS for score though, my best is 1.52 mil

>> No.7774950

>>7774635
>>7774878
These are pretty comfy setups. What are you guys using for the screen?

>> No.7774994 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
>tattoos
into the trash she goes.

>> No.7775019 [DELETED] 

>>7774994
that's obvious, but post your replays

>> No.7775023

>arcade is getting an ESPGaluda cabinet
Tell me about the game, all I know is that its Cave

>> No.7775027

>>7774635
>>7774878
These minimalist setups are great. Keep them coming.

>> No.7775083
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>>7775023
https://shmups.wiki/library/Espgaluda

The mechanics in Espgaluda have some gimmicks to them. First of all instead of traditional individual bombs you have a bomb gauge. You determine the strength of your bomb by holding the bomb button, the stronger the more gauge it uses.
There's also the Kakusei mechanic where you slow down the bullets and cancel them by killing the enemy that shot them. This uses up gems that you collect by killing enemies. This is also the crux of the scoring system.

Jaimers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1idDgK9PM

Mark_Msx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDDbKvxqfwU
(live commentary)

>> No.7775085 [DELETED] 

>tattoos

gross
fucking american piggus corrupted the mentality of japan

>> No.7775089 [DELETED] 

>>7775085
The Japanese were tattooing themselves for centuries before you were born.

>> No.7775095

>Is presentation an important part of your enjoyment of games /vr/? For example, if I were to take your favorite game and change its art, music and characters, but leave the level design and gameplay the same, would you still like it?

Great aesthetics can take an other mediocre game and turn it into something memorable especially if it has themes that are unique.

Bad aesthetics can take an amazing game and bring it down to just being meh. For case in point look at Space Mega Force/Super Alestate. The whole game looks like they only had 25% of the sprite work finished and needed to slap it togeather over the weekend to get ready for launch. Anyone who has played this knows it hurts the experience. If it had R-TYPE level graphics I'm convinced everyone would universally acknowledge it as the best 16 bit shmup.

>> No.7775096

Have those schizos finally left? There used to be a guy that would legit fly into a blind rage if you said how some games were aesthetically better than others

>> No.7775104

>>7775023
it's a pretty easy game, until you reach the final boss. don't bomb him during his final phase. actually you can bomb as a panic button to save your ass, just don't hit him with your blast

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>>7775096
yeah the future looks bright

>>7775095
>>7774621
>is presentation important
Yeah I like Donpachi's gameplay but the music and sound quality are sooo bad I can't play it long

>> No.7775223 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
Hate to be the sperg here but tattoos totally ruin it for me here. They look out of place.

>> No.7775226 [DELETED] 

>>7775223
tattoos are truly disgusting but what can you do? it's too late for her

>> No.7775319 [DELETED] 

what does ZUN think of tr*shure shmups?

>> No.7775321

>>7774621
Do you come with the controller?

>> No.7775381

>>7774950
>What are you guys using for the screen?
It's >>7774878 just an ipad running retroarch
its 4:3 ratio lends itself well to retro games

>> No.7775427 [DELETED] 

>>7775085
*Japanese prostitues and criminals. It was outlawed several times. Primitives and trash tattoo themselves.

>> No.7775430 [DELETED] 

>>7775427
Meant for >>7775089

>> No.7775437 [DELETED] 

>>7775427
Thank you for correcting the record. As an expert of 30 year old Nippon games, you must know their culture as if it was your own.

>> No.7775439 [DELETED] 

>>7775437
Huh?

>> No.7775446 [DELETED] 

>>7775439
He's rightfully calling you a dumb, out of touch weeb. At any rate, this is my last response on the matter.

>> No.7775454

There's some new convention for retro games I just saw the other day:

https://www.torpedocollectorscon.com/

>> No.7775456 [DELETED] 

>>7775446
How is he "out of touch" with a historical fact? Someone is taking personal offense over their attitude toward tattoos.

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>>7774994
>>7775019
>>7775085
>>7775223
>>7775226
>>7775427
> tattoos are icky :^(

>> No.7775480 [DELETED] 

Why do incels hate tattoos so much lmao
its just some ink on skin
your waifus are not some pure maidens saving their wholesome body just for you
wake up and smell the coffee

>> No.7775483 [DELETED] 

>>7775480
Why are you taking it so personally?

>> No.7775486 [DELETED] 

For me it's fobby Chinese girls with cute accents and no tattoos

>> No.7775491 [DELETED] 

>>7775480
It's proved that people with tattoos are very emotionally unstable. Look it up.

>> No.7775512 [DELETED] 

>>7775319
He likes Darius Gaiden which plays exactly like a Treasure shmup

>> No.7775516 [DELETED] 

>>7775319
He's jealous of their superior tunes

>>7775427
based Japan.


>>7775480
tattoos are generally ugly, a form of body mutilation, specially when there are a bunch of them close together and overlapping, it's hard to discern the mess.
the people who get tats are usually lowlifes or NPCs who copy hipster trends and should be ridiculed publicly.

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You know you want this to be real.

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>>7775516
nice

>> No.7775637 [DELETED] 

>>7775512
>which plays exactly like a Treasure shmup

Don't insult based Taito like that, anon.

>> No.7775787 [DELETED] 

chav's final fight hardest dips vs. tardo's strikers 2-all, who will be the first to prove themselves?

>> No.7775798 [DELETED] 

chav is proper shit, it must be said

>> No.7775829

>>7775119
>Yeah I like Donpachi's gameplay but the music and sound quality are sooo bad I can't play it long
I'm baffled by this statement

>> No.7775857

>>7775787
il stream attempts if you really want to see it.

>> No.7775861

>>7775857
Not who you're responding to but I'd like to watch

>> No.7775865 [DELETED] 

>>7775480
a womans skin is soft and beautiful if she isn't a minger, anyone who thinks garish cringe shitty ink jammed into it is ever anything less than a blemish is deluded and degenerate. It's not an incel thing its a standards and not being a brain dead tribalist buying into the illusion of "muh individuality" thing.

>> No.7775881 [DELETED] 

>>7775865
"its not an incel thing" says the most incel post in this board lmao

>> No.7776151 [DELETED] 

>>7775881
You couldn't even manage correct english.

Says it all.

>> No.7776184 [DELETED] 

>>7775881
so your wife have been dicked by countless individuals before marrying you? you are indifferent about that too ?

>> No.7776212
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rob, why did you waste your talent on shmups instead of becoming a doctor?

>> No.7776265

Just need a VLX Diamond to complete my coomlection

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>>7775857

>> No.7776289

>>7776212
pic related is not wrong, up to a point. If we ignore doing surgery, then yes, medicine(which is for the most part biology) is about memorizing(since biology is all about memorizing).

>> No.7776325

>>7774621
Presentation is hugely important to me. Space Megaforce in particular highlights this. The mode 7 in stage 2 is just stellar programming of its time. No other shmup on the SNES has that much going on. And the gave level with the parallax and wavy effect...so good.

>> No.7776343 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
Full sleeves
Probably a tranny
Check it for balls

>> No.7776509 [DELETED] 

>>7776184
bet he's the type of demroalized apathetic onions that thinks everything "doesnt matter man"

>> No.7776587

>>7775518
the characters faces looks similar to me

>> No.7776917 [DELETED] 

>>7776587
Most anime suffer from same face syndrome, it's low quality art

>>7776343
>>7775865
Wise words me thinks

>>7775829
Explain your baffelment

>> No.7776961

>>7774621
I like Karous. Probably not what most people would consider to be a good shmup, but the music and aesthetic are cool. The melee combat is also somewhat unique.

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>>7775865
Truer words have never been said on this site. I got to remember this for when I talk to women about tatoos.
>>7776343
slant eyes it's a lot harder to tell if it's a tranny because they are barely differentiated between each other.

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>>7774621
>shmups & shooters
Is og Ghosts 'n Goblins a shooter since the weapons are long-range shots not melee?
either way almost beat the second loop but red arremer and Satans turned it to shit

>> No.7777139

Did any one catch my stream just now? I 2all'd the Strikers trilogy and it felt pretty good!

>> No.7777196 [DELETED] 

>>7777083
Is Super Mario Bros. a shmup when you have the fireflower power-up?

>> No.7777258 [DELETED] 

>>7777196
argument worth having imo

>>7777139
I'm worried about richardo bruhs, he's been streaming some kusoge console platformers... no shmups ....
Was the mental break total and complete?

>> No.7777412 [DELETED] 

>>7777258
Ricardo is no more. The person you see streaming is now Ricoletta. Don't deadname.

>> No.7777453 [DELETED] 

>>7775512
wat
no it doesn't

>> No.7777458 [DELETED] 

>>7777083
this begs the question: does a game's theme, in part, determine its genre?

>> No.7777463 [DELETED] 

>>7774994
I have seen that image so many times and I was focused so much on those sticks that only after reading this post I saw the tattoos.

>> No.7777468 [DELETED] 

>>7774994
forget the tattoos, have you seen the face?

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>>7774878
fun little shmup

>>7777458
>>7776325
>>7775095
some say the style is part of the substance, so a game with different graphics & aesthetics would actually have different gameplay. Would Resident Evil play the same if all the enemies were cute bunny girls in a happy, colorful fairy land?

>>7777468
for me it has to be thicc gamer asians

>> No.7777562 [DELETED] 

>30 posts deleted
>most were on topic and relevant to retro shmup discussion
If j*nnies don't understand shmups, our jargon, players and the retro shmup scene how can they regulate this thread? Someone needs to cut their pay.

anyway back on topic. What's a good shmup for someone to play who 2alled the STrikers trilogy but now plays kuso console platformers?

>> No.7777590

>>7774635
>Switch
>LCD
>8bitdo wireless

IMAGINE the input lag

>> No.7777594

>>7777590
input lag isn't a big deal apparently the guy got 23 million

>> No.7777680
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>>7777139

who said they beat two loops of all the Strikers games?

>> No.7777814

>>7776961
karous is peak mate

>> No.7778061

>>7777814
then why dont you play it?

>> No.7778115

>>7777083
It's closer to a run and gun.

>> No.7778120

>>7777680
This part of ketsui is panic inducing for me. I always. choke or bomb there.

>> No.7778247

>>7778120
that's just stage 3 lol
but yeah it's a sort of wall when you first start

>> No.7778381

>>7778247
the stage and boss are fine. Its just the midboss that fucks me.

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>>7777680
You compare a shmup with a bullet hell shmup, anon.

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>>7777680
>liking tranmaku over Dad
Get a load of this faggot.

>> No.7778607 [DELETED] 

>>7778564
>No anime pandering in regular/Toa style shmups
LAMO

>> No.7778615 [DELETED] 

>>7778607
Most of toaplan's shmups don't have any tranime, and the most tranime of their shmups was made by the founder of cave, funny innit

>> No.7778627 [DELETED] 

>>7778564
>>7778615
Bored of flailing around in Castlevania clones yet?

>> No.7778632 [DELETED] 

>>7778615
the pic says no anime m8

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>>7778615
>tranime
>changing goal posts
anime isn't just big eyed girls.
all the graphics in toaplan shmups are literally anime (japanese animated animation made in japan). And it shows from their environments to their architecture, straight out of 80s/90s detailed manga

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>>7778627
Nope.

>>7778632
All anime is for trannies.

>>7778639
Your pic isn't anime shit, this is.

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>>7778649
>anime means faces
>anime stops at the neck down
no

>> No.7778707 [DELETED] 

>>7778564
I plays what I likes and I likes both

>> No.7778736

>>7775321
Oh you

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>>7775321

>> No.7778762

>>7774621
>It's Danmakus mostly (Cave & Touhou)
objectively bad games especially Ketsui if you ask me, the weapons suck

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>>>
> Anonymous 05/21/21(Fri)09:09:28 No.7778649▶>>7778686
>File: caveshit is cringe.jpg (213 KB, 1280x720)
>>>7778627
>Nope.
>>>7778632
>All anime is for trannies.
>>>7778639
>Your pic isn't anime shit, this is.

>> No.7778852 [DELETED] 

>>7778838
fair points but post your replays and current goals

>> No.7778952

>>7777590
>>LCD
You're so out of touch, anon. It's been like 10 years that virtually lagless LCDs exist.

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>New out of control Chinese Touhou fangame

>> No.7779997

Why not play some Tatsujin Oh today?

>> No.7780032 [DELETED] 

>>7778952
>tard thinks virtually lagless LCDs exist
>tard thinks they existed when he was 2
wew lad

>> No.7780073

>>7779997
Too bad it has shit scoring so bad replay value long term

>> No.7780106

>>7778762
nobody asked

>> No.7780107 [DELETED] 

>>7777139
>>7777680
Imagine claiming 7000 hours of shmup minge experience yet you can't beat Daioh after 8 months of practice and attempts...wtf
*** snapped after being exposed. No more shmups, couldn't beat Daioh,, Strikers trilogy was a hoax,, onion drink made him shit his pants, the community rejected the jrpig hypothesis... now Shmup pros having sex with jrpgs and the world didn't end. scared boy flailing in scotformers now. Myself , me? I enjoy playing Psikyo, tis fun retro shmups, start with 1945 II me thinks

>> No.7780129 [DELETED] 

>>7780073
Take the Survivalpill and play for speedkill optimization/efficiency instead, then.

Scoring is for fags.

>> No.7780146 [DELETED] 

>>7780129
meh, rather play belt scrollers if i were to go down that path.

>> No.7780151

>>7780129
Not so fast. Let's be real. I'm more of a survival player myself, I 2alled Strikers trilogy beat Gradius 3 and Tatsujin Oh (not bragging just facts). I have many HARD shmup clears, but don't ask for proofs because this happened 20 years ago. If you want I can make a 10 second clip of me playing sengoku ace or stage 1 Gradius III, that should be enough of a demonstration.

>> No.7780191

>>7780129
>speedkill
Post your fastest speedruns

>>7780151
"The hyper in DOJ lasts 1 second."

Lol

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>>7775119
>Yeah I like Donpachi's gameplay but the music and sound quality are sooo bad I can't play it long
where is the donpach replay?!

>> No.7780360

>>7777680
The 2000s bullet hell era focused too much on score mechanics instead of... the rest of the game. Maybe if more shmups followed Radiant Silvergun it would have lasted longer outside of indie and mobile

>> No.7780412

>>7780360
>The 2000s bullet hell era focused too much on score mechanics instead of... the rest of the game
can you give examples not sure what this means, or how it's bad

>> No.7780449

What can I accomplish in, say, 7000 hours of shmup time?

>> No.7780508

>>7780449
I don't think there would be many shmups left to survival clear after that time investment...and you should be able to 2-all the hardest easily in 40-50 hours.

If you were scoring then you should have *multiple* achievements similar to: 600 million DDP, 550 million Ketsui, 3 million Dragon Blaze, 4.2 million Gunbird 2, and things of that sort.

>> No.7780525

>>7780508
surprising? because after 7000 hours I had a Sengoku Ace 2all (harder than it seems), and I reached the second loops of Gradius 1 & 2. And I couldn't beat Daioh after 8 months of practice on top of the 7000 hours of experience

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>>7780129
>>7780449

>> No.7780685 [DELETED] 

/ourboy/ Mark has finally given up on shmups... it's time to let go bros..

>> No.7780720

>>7776961
that shmup is style over substance

>>7780685
you spelled tardo wrong

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Never played any Gradius game before in my life, but I've got Sexy Parodius burned onto a disc, and I gotta say this game fuckin rules

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>>7780863
another really pretty screen

>> No.7780871

>>7774635

I concur with the others, beautiful setup, anon.

>> No.7780872

>>7780863
>>7780868
Its like gradius but with better scoring, better difficulty balance and prettier graphics to look at.

>> No.7780907 [DELETED] 

>>7780872
>better scoring
bell juggling is gay.
>better difficulty balance
filtered much?
>and prettier graphics to look at.
kys aestheticsfag.

>> No.7780920

As someone who also 2 looped all the Strikers games and similar to satis in skill (but for classic shmups), what are some shmups I can play that don't suffer from braindead simplistic scoring mechanics? A lot of the more popular ones tend to be pretty simplistic all things considered, but I'm more in the mood for something a tad hardcore (or at least to the level where the designers don't assume I'm a retard who can only route for dodging-survival).

Can we talk about the outlier shmups that actually challenge to a certain degree, force the player to think, and have mechanics flexible enough for them to be more than mere avoid bullets games? The ones that actually force the player to think laterally and train their brains, not just avoid danger and safety bomb?

>> No.7780927 [DELETED] 

>>7780907
anon, why would you just come out and say "I've never had pussy" like that?

>> No.7780954 [DELETED] 

best konami shmups are their copymonkey ones

>trigon
konami copies toaplan
>xexex
konami copies irem
>juno first
konami copies defender

>> No.7781068

>>7780720
>that shmup is style over substance
is it fuck, i bet you dont have any score in it at all, retard

>> No.7781070

>>7778061
already did, don't be a sad addict anon know when its time to move on

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>>7781068
>>7781070
>game is so *fun* im never playing it again

>> No.7781198

>>7780412
I'm a shmup fan including bullet hell, but the 2000s era was more arcadey than the 90s and earlier. A lot of bullet hell puts little or no emphasis on story, or offers extra modes to pad out the content in the home version, like RS Saturn mode and some other 5th gen shmups. I think that's why shmups dropped off in popularly after being so prominent in the 90s-- PC-Engine was basically a classic shmup (and CVRoB) box, now shmups barely get physical releases anymore.

I might be wrong, twin stick shooters have been popular throughout the 2010s and most gloss over the story and focus on high score

>> No.7781208 [DELETED] 

>>7780032
keep digging retard zoomer. I'm probably older than your dad

>> No.7781210 [DELETED] 

>>7780032
also post your scores. 100% you're some shitter with a cab or a poverty CRT setup and NO SCORES lmao, sad. Many such cases!

>> No.7781242

>>7781081
im sorry you suffer mindless addiction anon.

>> No.7781254

>>7781242
t. style over substance filtered by shmups

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>>7781208
>>7781210
My dad turns 90 this year kiddo.

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7781306

why can't shmup players get along

>> No.7781582 [DELETED] 

>>7781306
Because most are mentally ill insecure attention whores?

>> No.7781617

>>7781198
>A lot of bullet hell puts little or no emphasis on story, or offers extra modes to pad out the content in the home version, like RS Saturn mode and some other 5th gen shmups. I think that's why shmups dropped off in popularly after being so prominent in the 90s-- PC-Engine was basically a classic shmup (and CVRoB) box, now shmups barely get physical releases anymore.
it's hard to tell a story in shmups because the games are about dodging, scoring and routing very predetermined levels over and over, not about making plot choices and interacting with characters or exploring the unknown. rpgs and adventure games are much better for story

>>7781582
post your clean mental profile, IQ score and hardest dips replay

>> No.7781635
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do you become a score player just because you like a particular game? I just wrapped up my third 1cc and I was wondering what gets a person from playing to survival to playing for score. also if you're a survival player how much time do you put into a game after you 1cc it? I keep returning to my first 2 1cc games (devil engine & zeroranger) because they're good but I'm getting a little frustrated that I haven't gotten another 1cc in them. Am I a HACKFRAUD that just got LUCKY? better play more video game just in case

>> No.7781646

>>7781635
> I'm getting a little frustrated that I haven't gotten another 1cc in them. Am I a HACKFRAUD that just got LUCKY?
Building consistency takes time, specially if you are new and have very few 1ccs. The more you play shmups the better your memory and execution will become so replicating a 1cc won't be that hard.

>do you become a score player just because you like a particular game? I just wrapped up my third 1cc and I was wondering
If you find a game you enjoy playing for score gives you a reason to replay it and get better, and experience it in a new way. You can play other games for survival and while having a main game for score. I find the puzzle element really interesting for score optimization. To me learning the 1cc is like learning to ride a bike, after that I want to take it out and see what I can do with it.

>> No.7781740 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
Hmmm the model girl is a yazuka cum dumpster (Can tell by the tattoos).

Such a shame

>> No.7781816

What's the best way to play ESPGaluda?

>> No.7781830

>>7781816
sitting down with good posture

>> No.7781832

>>7781830
I mean on PC lole
Just mame?

>> No.7781852

>>7781832
mame will be fine for Galuda I reckon, yes
Galuda 2 is better on X360

>> No.7781863

>>7780525
>And I couldn't beat Daioh after 8 months of practice on top of the 7000 hours of experience
stick to console jumpers and rpgs me thinks

>> No.7781865 [DELETED] 

Great, are those schizos back

>> No.7781979

What is Dariusburst CS like?

>> No.7781995

anyone got that shmupmame mega

>> No.7783662
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why people ask for replays of shmups they don't care about or play? is it to make a weird ~point~?

>> No.7783938 [DELETED] 

>>7783662
mog just explained it to me and plas is redeemed

>> No.7784025 [DELETED] 

>>7781582
>i can name three mental issues most shmupfags have
>>7781617
>hold my beer

>> No.7784196

>>7783938
>>7783662
speaking of Cave games that don't SUCK, someone should play Type B Donpachi and beat Arm Chair Generals' score imo

>> No.7784197 [DELETED] 

>>7783938
are westies cucking to japs who don't respect them enough to share footage of 30 year old video games? pathetic!

>> No.7784207 [DELETED] 

>>7784197
plasmo isn't japanese iirc

>> No.7784208 [DELETED] 

Are we going to talk about games instead of e-celeb garbage

>> No.7784217 [DELETED] 

>>7784208
games don't play themselves, so no

>> No.7784218

>>7784208
tyrian 2000 > every bullet hell

>> No.7784225

>>7776289
The whole world is about memorizing. As it is written: Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.

>> No.7784231 [DELETED] 

>>7784208
sure, tell us how the Strikers 1945 2alls are coming along. Alternatively, what does spanish taint smell like?

>>7784218
dead joke

>>7781816
mame

>> No.7784232

>>7784218
So you've played every bullet hell?

>> No.7784237 [DELETED] 

>>7784231
>sure, tell us how the Strikers 1945 2alls are coming along. Alternatively, what does spanish taint smell like?
bro what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.7784240

>>7784232
Yes. I've played the first two levels of Ikaruga (didn't complete the second one lol) and have beaten Touhou with my mommy's help.

>> No.7784263

>>7784232
yes I don't actually care for bullet hells but i get the appeal and something like tyrian 2000 appeals to me more.

>> No.7784307

What is harder Donpachi 2all or Tatsujin Ou 1-all?

>> No.7784387
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im going to barcelona arcade and be the first to beat all the Strikers games, should be easy for me..., I have 7000 hours of shmup practice

>> No.7784587 [DELETED] 

>>7781210
>>7781617
Looks like it's time to up your meds. And not the HRT.

>> No.7784810

>>7784387
whats this meme

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>>7781816
>What's the best way to play ESPGaluda?

>> No.7785089
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play battlemania 2
its fun

>> No.7785094

>>7785089
to add to this, make sure to select 8-way shot in options
makes for a really unique game.

>> No.7785676

I'm looking for a Shmup Coach. The ideal candidate should have multiple very hard achievements under his belt, and at least 7000 hours of shmup playtime. Any suggestions?

>> No.7786098 [DELETED] 

>>7784810
the "having retardo live rent free in your head 24/7" meme

>> No.7786110

>>7780151
>"I'm not sure this boss can be done without this item"
>OH YEAH WELL WATCH ME BEAT THE STAGE 1 BOSS INSTEAD GUESS YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD AND WRONG HUH
I'm not even a ricky hater but what the FUCK did he mean by this?

>> No.7786127

>>7785089
Best Shmup on the Genesis IMO. The first one is also great (Trouble Shooter) but not as good as the sequel. Both are really creative and unique, wish the genre had more games willing to experiment and be weird with the formula.

>> No.7786139

>>7786127
^this guy gets it

>> No.7786194

Is there any shmup that has 5 or 6 westerners playing it seriously for score? DDP? Strikers? Dimahoo? Tatsujin ou? Futari? No? Kinda sad how it's 0-1 players average...and by the time you catch up to that 1 dude he'll have quit the genre and moved to mmos. So it'll just be you sharing strats no one appreciates and streaming to 4 afk viewers who don't know what is going on. I get why shmup ppl want to grow the community and get more exposure....


>muh social aspect
inb4 autist points out these are single player games without having any understanding or experience competing in anything and the fun and rivalry of team work.


>>7786110
It was poser confusion and disinfo probably, people like that want to sow discord and start drama,

>> No.7786215

>>7785676
Any decent player will coach u for free, just show some valid interest and legit progress in a game they play

>7000 hours experience req
Lmao why so much? for example the top western Ketsui player has around 1500 hours in it....and maybe a few hundred in other shmups I dunno but not close to 7k

>> No.7786226
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>play Darius Gaiden
>don't have fun
>play Darius Gaiden again months later
>don't have fun
>play Darius Gaiden again just now
>it clicks

>> No.7786230

>>7786226
Lots of shmups are acquired tastes that grow on you, changing your approach can help,
I'm having fun with Twin Cobra 2 now, previously it wasn't

>> No.7786232

>>7786226
many such cases.

>> No.7786242 [DELETED] 

>>7786098
Its just games bruh
*quits genre, dies*

>> No.7786270 [DELETED] 

>>7786242
yea, rip

>> No.7786275

>>7786194
Shmup competion is dead.
Better to think of shmups as quirky personal projects, like building a shed or statue in your backyard. No one will care or help you, just do it to do it. Or play online games for comp.

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>>>/ck/16158495
>the fat fuck that's been posting $50 of taco bell and raw burger on /ck/ everyday for the past 2 years is a shmupfag
That's the last fucking straw. I'm quitting this shit and subscribing to FFXIV. Goodnight.

>> No.7786335

>>7786215
>1500 hrs to get wr level in shmup

this is how much of a joke this "hardcore" hobby actually is. 1500 in any other real hobby wouldnt get you anywhere near wr anything or even pro.

>> No.7786398 [DELETED] 

>>7786335
wot real hobbies u do

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>>7786127
Not a fan of shmups where you control a large "ship" (or two girls in this case). I like the setting but I couldn't get into the actual game

>> No.7786412

What are the best shmups I can play on PC right now? I'll only consider emulation if it's flawless out of the box on retroarch, no tinkering.

>> No.7786427 [DELETED] 

>>7786412
Wolflame

>> No.7786454 [DELETED] 

>>7786427
>checkpoint-based shmups

gross... into the trash it goes~

>> No.7786674

>>7786412
Gradius Gaiden (PSX emulation)

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>>7786407
the hitbox is smaller than you think desu. the blue-haired broad doesnt even have one
also, did you use 8-way shot?
make sure you do that
the game doesnt tell you unless you look at the options, but without it youre severely crippling your ability to stay alive. in fact, with some of the the vertical stages id be shocked if it was even possible at all
idk why that kind of mechanic didnt end up becoming a standard in more shmups
makes it feel almost like an entirely different style game

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>plying Mushihimesama
>new to Danmaku's in general
>getting better at fundimentals
>yet by dumb luck my best run is one that I did while half drunk before I even knew half of what I know now
>still can't do better then that one run
>that one run when watching the replay is sloppy A.F. but it was lucky
Anon's, when new to a game, have you ever had a run that was by happenstance better then your best runs by luck? How does one learn from something like that?

>> No.7787475

>>7781979
Fun.

>> No.7787502 [DELETED] 

>>7786335
i really need to work twoards dumping 10000 hours into piano. thats something i could be really proud of

>> No.7787554

>>7787425
>while half drunk
Being just a little bit drunk is probably good for relaxation and focus. Alcohol is considered a performance enhancing drug and forbidden in competitive shooting and other sports requiring precise muscle coordination.

>> No.7787569 [DELETED] 

>>7787554
theres a nice sweet spot around 1-2 standard US drinks that loosens you up enough to get rid of nerves but not so much to make you retarded

>> No.7787626 [DELETED] 

>>7786335
Thats for a routing child prodigy who was elite speedrunner before shmups...meanwhile a normal player or YouTuber might take 700-1000 hours for a simple DDP 2all.

And the 10,000 hour rule is a popculture meme if you fell for it the author is a joke

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>>7787502

>> No.7787669 [DELETED] 

>>7787627
>>7787502
Cope sarcasm. but you could make an easy living teaching or playing piano if you were elite at it, and it sounds cool as fuck, once youre good. Might've got a qt piano gf in the process too. Then you could game as a hobby not as your total life.

Better than pissing in bottles in mamas basement as an incel adult with no skills me thinks? Tell me an impressive shmup fact you learned this week

>> No.7787675 [DELETED] 

>>7787669
i wasnt being sarcastic

>> No.7787685 [DELETED] 

>>7787669
>Tell me an impressive shmup fact you learned this week
Strikers 1945 trilogy is often lied about.
Mushi futari players have awful haircuts.

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>>7787554
>a little bit drunk...
I'm also jumping between games alot. So maybe there is that. ATM. I'm feeling ESP.Ra,De; MushihimeSama & EoSD.

Loving ESP & EoSD more so, Maybe I just need to commit to one game.

>> No.7787690 [DELETED] 

>>7787675
Based if true

>> No.7787717 [DELETED] 

>>7787669
Ehh, I've been a musician for 15 years, went to college for it, work as an organist right now, it stopped being fun about 7 years ago. That picture is actually highly relatable. The music you have to learn at a professional level is extremely difficult, every single note you play is pulled apart by all your teachers, and then when you enter the professional world you're almost always reminded that if you bomb one rehearsal you're not getting called back to the next. But I suppose these standards exist for whatever hobby that is taken to the professional level. I don't play shmups tho

>> No.7788143 [DELETED] 

>>7787669
>Tell me an impressive shmup fact you learned this week
Japan hides replays of 30 year old games two people on Earth play

>> No.7789115 [DELETED] 

>>7787669
>Tell me an impressive shmup fact you learned this week
hyper in DOJ lasts 1 second

>> No.7789396 [DELETED] 

>>7787626
cope

video games are a joke mate and thankfully no one in functioning society will ever take it seriously

>>7787502
if you have the passion then go for it, who knows you might be the next erik satie


>>7787717
this anecdote perfectly supports why ppl fall back onto games, ie they are accessible illusions of achievement without achieving anything. I can't think of anything more depressing than these guys who have done nothing but game since childhood getting old and looking back someday and realising how empty it all was, just another mindless addiction like any drug addict.

>> No.7789501

>>7787554
its a depressent.

>> No.7790225 [DELETED] 

>>7789396
>you might be the next erik satie
lol saties great but hes certainly no financial or life role model

>> No.7790565 [DELETED] 

>>7790225
who cares? he made incredible music.

>> No.7791420 [DELETED] 

Whatt's with all (Dead) posts?

>> No.7791428 [DELETED] 

Why do the jannies hate us bros, we stick to our containment thread, why do they have to delete half the posts everyday?

Also why doesn't anyone talk about rayforce, played a few credits, it seems fun.

>> No.7791445

the shmup community has to move back to vg for the real shmup threads to return

>> No.7792061
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ps4, or switch? anyone know the differences?

>> No.7792984

>>7792061
it's out?

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This is the dumbest mother fucker in any shmup cord

>> No.7793051

>>7792984
been out in japan. still a month away for the rest of us

>> No.7793682

>>7791445
Go for it. I need to talk about all the Strikers and Daioh 2alls I got in barcelona jajajaja

(Don't ask for proof)

>> No.7793695 [DELETED] 

>>7787554
You know a game is shite when alcohol improves you at it, bowling tier bar scum sports no doubt.


>>7786335
Play Tatsujin Oh for 10m points, hard-core enough? It's a shmup made by Toaplan. Better than throwing pieces of metal at walls or juggling hoops hoops,

>> No.7793708

I want to emulate some vertical games on my tablet. What is the best platform to emulate?

>> No.7793737

>>7793682
Informationpill me on this meme

>> No.7793807

>>7793708
retroarch works good on most tablets, has latency reduction if you enable it properly

>>7793737
stick around, you'll get it eventually

>> No.7793817

>>7793737
you need 7000 hours of shmupg playtime

>> No.7793857 [DELETED] 

>>7793823
>Nothing about the gameplay is exciting or well designed
it's very well designed mechanically and in terms of interesting levels and bosses

>And you need a fucking guide to play the full game instead of just running
t. brainlet not used to thinking while playing

> is just Mega Man X but worse.
>BTW, this was not the first time Capcom did a "Mega Man but different IP".
plays nothing like Mega Man,. Is Mega Man your only frame of reference on platforming? lmao

>> No.7793882

>>7793737
my total shmup playtime should be around 7k hours of old shmups but then again this is hard to quantify as I don't keep track of playtime exactly. You could say I'm an expert king at old shmups having completed 2 loops of the Strikers 1945 trilogy.

As for shmup replays aka proof? Let's be real.

>> No.7794079 [DELETED] 

Clean it up janny

>>7793695
>Play Tatsujin Oh for 10m points, hard-core enough?
Failed Spaniard larp. Try "Scoring is for trannies" or "I just play for fun" next time.

>> No.7794139 [DELETED] 

>>7793695
tell me how i know you have never done anything your entire life but silly video games?

Any turbo tist loser like moglar can get to wr level in just 1500 hrs whilst theres not a single pro in real sport who hasn't been doing it hardcore for literally years and years.

>> No.7794141 [DELETED] 

>>7794139
>filtered by the entire concept of getting good
holy shit luhmow

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>>7779997
>Why not play some Tatsujin Oh today?
>>7793695
>Play Tatsujin Oh for 10m points, hard-core enough?
fun fact dgc is grinding 達人王 and going to go for 10 million. so pog!!
this motivates me to shoot for 2million!

>>7794079
chill out dude
its just games
jajajajaja

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>>7794139
t. filtered by hit boxes

>>7784307
>>7784307
>What is harder Donpachi 2all or Tatsujin Ou 1-all?
pass on ye olde donpach, hyper mechanics in DOJ makes DDP & DP obsolete as far as I'm concerned. Tatsujin Ou looks like shite but I could be wrong.

>> No.7794192

>>7794151
>fun fact dgc is grinding 達人王 and going to go for 10 million. so pog!!
now this is poggers

>> No.7794219

>>7794174
w2c that tracksuit

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>>7778762
>Danmakus are objectively bad games especially Ketsui if you ask me
Wrong.
You probably don't even know their history, intended purpose and audience. A new type of shooter emerged in the early 1990s: variously termed "bullet hell", "manic shooters", "maniac shooters" and danmaku (弾幕, "barrage"), these games required the player to dodge overwhelming numbers of enemy projectiles and called for still more consistent and high level execution from players. Execution was never this high in older shmups. Bullet hell games arose from the need for 2D shoot 'em up developers to compete with the emerging popularity of 3D games: huge numbers of missiles on screen were intended to impress players.
tl;dr get gud otherwise they aren't meant for you.

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should I play futari tonight or thunderforce iv?

>>7794079
*barcelona is crying*

>> No.7794263

>>7794174
hypers only last 1 second so they don't affect the gameplay much at all.

>> No.7794271

>>7784307
There's a japanese difficulty list that gives Donpachi a 33 (for reference DOJ WL 2-all is 45) but it doesn't show Tatsujin Ou. It's not accurate since it says Daioh 2-all is 36 but I have thousands of hours of shmup experience and couldn't 2 loop it in 8 months of trying, so it should be something like 50 or 60, nearly impossible.

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>>7794263
>hypers only last 1 second so they don't affect the gameplay much at all.
that was funny but also how misinformation spreads

>> No.7794298

>>7783662
Top tier replays are fun to watch
Copy monkeying them is a chore tho

>> No.7794307

>>7774621
Hyper-Oldfag here
My SHMUP phase died for the 4th time in 2015 or so. I've been playing and collecting them since the mid 80s.

>> No.7794338 [DELETED] 

>>7794307
post your scores grabber-kun

>> No.7794364 [DELETED] 

>>7794338
Scores of what? I haven't touched anything since 2015 due to work and family.
>grabber-kun
Who

>> No.7794438

>>7774621
>For example, if I were to take your favorite game and change its art, music and characters, but leave the level design and gameplay the same, would you still like it?

I mean Parodius is the reason I got into shmups, so obviously yeah.

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>>7794307
based. post you're xevious replays.

>> No.7794450 [DELETED] 

>>7794141
?????
im literally advocating getting good at things that are actually impressive.

>> No.7794457 [DELETED] 

>>7794450
look at you... jelly and coping. sad!

>> No.7794481 [DELETED] 

>>7794457
great banter
really is

>> No.7794564 [DELETED] 

>>7794481
your non stop jelly seethe projection coping sparks such great banter

>> No.7794576 [DELETED] 

>>7794564
your reading comprehension is comedy gold.

your lack of life experience though is just depressing.

games are not impressive and nor are you, go get a real hobby and see the difference. Games are literal bottom feeder tier.

>> No.7794628 [DELETED] 

>>7794576
big words from a neet seething in his mummys basement for 10 years

>> No.7794803 [DELETED] 

the medical condition is fake.

the final fight hardest dips 1cc is fake.

the being good at non-gaming hobbies is fake.

the shares are fake.

>> No.7794813

>>7792061
Should be about even. If Switch has 3 frames of lag PS4 should match that or maybe even 2. Otherwise both have been fixed in regards to leaderboard bugs and both have the extra characters now patched in. Time to join in on the Cotton train.

I gotta work on that x68k clear but I've been dabbling in R Type Final2 recently.

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>>7794803
>the shares are fake.

oh really?


You low i.q scared of everything fucks never learn, meanwhilst today i made BANK! told you idiots you should of gone AMC


JAJAJA go stack box!

>> No.7794996 [DELETED] 

>>7794948
>meanwhilst today i made BANK!
t. avoids posting the money he has in shares at all costs

L A R P

>> No.7795020 [DELETED] 

>>7794996
who gives a fuck what you think? lmao, told you days before it what i was doing and im not some yank cunt who posts shit so scared of everything low iq gamurs like you can monkey.

you listened to some tard with anime avatar lmfaoooo and i was correct, made more money today than you will moving boxes all week, you can still buy in though but you wont take the tip or listen because youre a fucking idiot who listens to other fucking idiots and its funny as FUCK

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>>7795020
i don't listen to idiots, that's why i take the piss out of everything you say

post S H A R E S

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>>7795034
you missed out rob, thats what you get for being irl frogger who listens to anime guys because you are thick as dick and have absolutely no critical thinking skill at ALL.

It's so nice that i'll never ever have to suffer the holy trinity of idiocricy EVER again, you sam and gus so dumb it's depressing and painful to even be near, laters assholes im off to count my real life shares scoreboard lmao, bye bye gaming wasters enjoy your fear of everything, collecting toys, lego, inability to converse and meaningless obsession over shit old games, it feels SO good to finally move on from this scene of fail and know i will never ever talk to any of you ever again.

au revoir children.

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not reading anything until i see a pic of your shares, unlucky

>> No.7795186 [DELETED] 

>>7794948
post the Final Shite replay & post the bank account

>> No.7795316 [DELETED] 

I hate my life and wish I were dead

>> No.7795319 [DELETED] 

>>7795115
Conspiratards BTFO.

>> No.7795364 [DELETED] 

oi! me dole!

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laughing me way to the bank, au revoir children

>> No.7795565 [DELETED] 

>>7795316
hope you feel better soon anon, I get it

>> No.7795573 [DELETED] 

>>7776212
Memorizing and their career path is why the doctors can't figure out anything about you specifically when you go. They are running their mind through diagnoses to put on you...when you probably have complications or unique issues. They don't have any logic. So they prescribe drugs you don't need or misdiagnose, or don't listen to the patient.

>> No.7796193

>>7786194
A few playing dodonpachi and a couple tatsujin ou. Dimahoo isn't popular but garegga and batrider are played in the west

>>7794249
I'd play futari it's more visually appealing, better levels and has more depth.

>*barcelona is crying*
Lol I get it

>> No.7796357
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>having fun with Daisenpu
>find out the formation bug that lets you win for free no skill involved
Now I can't play the game because I know it can be cheesed. Even if I don't cheese it it doesn't feel worth playing, like I'm making my own handicap for no reason if I don't use the formation bug

>> No.7796458 [DELETED] 

>>7781740
I overlooked that, everyone but yaks and bosos would instantly walk away from that

>> No.7796558

>>7794151
funny how toaplan enemies and ships remind me of Cave games

>> No.7796572

>>7794151
>this motivates me to shoot for 2million!
ngmi, back to bwr

>> No.7796658

gradius 1 is the best gradius in the series if you disagree you're wrong

>> No.7796694 [DELETED] 

>>7796658
gradius 5 is the only good one because based Treasure made it, the greatest retro game developer of all time

>> No.7796724 [DELETED] 

>>7796694
If this is sarcasm then cringe and yikes. Who doesn't like Treasure for real?

>> No.7796738
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>>7794449
>literally me
Just got Ikaruga & Radiant Silvergun on sale
Feels good shmup bros

>> No.7796794

>>7796738
nice grabs
keep us updated on your progress

>> No.7796823 [DELETED] 

>>7796694
can't tell if falseflagging or legit trashure fanboy

>> No.7796897

Is there a chart of recommended bullet hells?

>> No.7796909

>>7796897
step 1. don't play bullet hells

step 2. go play Dadshmups

step 3: ignore scoretism

>> No.7796912

>>7796909
Don't reply to me

>> No.7796928

>>7796897
There should be, I'll see what I can find.

>>7796909
1. play both
2. play both
3. git gud and you can score and survive

>> No.7796931

>>7796897
just play anything presented by cave. otherwise skip it. you don't need a chart.

>> No.7796935 [DELETED] 

>>7796909
cope

>> No.7796940

>>7796897
How about some videos instead of charts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfCSApX2mhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No-VfaOzMLg

>> No.7796942
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>>7796897
the list can get pretty meme'y but the top 25 list voted on by shmups.system11 every year is a pretty good starting place. You can check different years or see the master list of all the games that ever made it to the top 25.

>> No.7796961

>>7796909
>step 2. go play Dadshmups
b-b-b-but checkpoints, lightning-fast bullets compared to dodonpachi, fat hitboxes, infinite loops, punishing recovery, and low shot frequency scares me :((((((((((((((((

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>>7796961
>Afraid of low-execution memorization
let's be real. people 10 loop dadshmups because the execution is so low relative to danmaku.

>> No.7797134

>>7796961
>>7796909
>daddy shmups
Sounds like a queer fetish.
I'll stick to bullet Hells

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>>7796978

>> No.7797216 [DELETED] 

>>7796909
step 4. delete all your replays and videos

step 5. sperg out and run away when reminded it's just games brah

step 6. dedicate your life to streaming nintoddler platformers

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>>7797216
lul

>> No.7797240

>>7796658
Wrong because Gaiden exists
1 is second best though

>> No.7797294

>>7797240
Multiloop gradius 1 before you reply to me

>> No.7797391

I want to 1cc Darius Gaiden and my main issue is managing rank. How do I do it?

>> No.7797394

>>7796942
wow thanks

>> No.7797428

>start learning cave
>realise their systems are so poorly made its shovelware tier

>> No.7797510

>>7797428
>start learning cave
>get filtered early on
>make excuses
many such cases

>> No.7797515

>>7797510
t. hasn't played cave
the systems are legit dogshit

>> No.7797524

>>7797515
I suggest you quit shmups and flail in bmups.

>> No.7797550

I need cunny shmups

>> No.7797559

>>7797515
Daioujou hyper system is great
Espgaluda cancel mechanics and scoring are great

>> No.7797581 [DELETED] 

lmao this thread would have over 300 replies if the deleted posts weren't gone

>> No.7797683

>start playing cave
>realise it's like touhou but shit

>> No.7797690 [DELETED] 

>>7797683
DILATE

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>>7797683
>touhou is better than Cave

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>haha yeh that wont happen anime avatar man says so, missed the boat if you didnt get it at 2 dollar, dumb chav.

smugcee.jpg

>> No.7798080 [DELETED] 

Stop gambling on penny stocks and become a doctor already. You're embarrassing your family.

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>>7798080
>>7797998
this is a retro /vr/ shmup thread

>> No.7798184 [DELETED] 

>>7798161
Go cry to janny you limp wristed fatherless anime consooming tranny

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>>7797559
>Daioujou hyper system is great
>Espgaluda cancel mechanics and scoring are great
True but don't ignore Futari maniac or Galuda 2, pretty fun scoring


>>7798184
>Go cry to janny you
but im not like u, are you lost? This is a shmup thread

>> No.7798231

Darius Gaiden uses a rank system for difficulty. Rank ranges from 1-255, and the higher the rank, the more difficult the game becomes.

Rank can affect the following:

-bullet speed
-The amount of bullets an enemy fires
-The size of the bullets fired

Rank is most heavily affected by breaking boss parts, but is also affected by collecting powerups and shots fired. Due to this, 30hz turbofire can increase rank significantly faster than standard autofire.

Upon death, rank is temporarily halved before quickly climbing up to where it was before death.

>> No.7798242

>>7798231
thanks fren

>> No.7798248

Is ESP.Ra.De any good?

>> No.7798262

>>7798248
It's excellent, ha! One of the best and don't let people scare you about the boss milk, it's very overblown and not a big deal unless you're close to WR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFP0KoVgno

>> No.7798269

>>7798262
Is there much of a difference between the M2 and MAME?

>> No.7798270
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Who are the coolest shmup characters and why are they type-A, type-B and type-C?

>> No.7798275

>>7798269
depends what you're going for, I think M2 is worth it check the review!!!!!!

>> No.7798328 [DELETED] 

uh bros....I think I finally became Cavepilled....

>> No.7798331 [DELETED] 

oh its like an ESP "raid", an ESP.Ra.De
clever

>> No.7798338 [DELETED] 

>>7798161
>this is a retro /vr/ shmup thread
thats why i posting hi scores.

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>>7798328
nooooo play for survival!!!!!!! play a daddy shmup!

>> No.7798478 [DELETED] 

>>7798328
how's the transitioning going 4u? got some cute hairy tits yet?

>> No.7798479 [DELETED] 

>>7798478
shmups?

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>>7796897
>Is there a chart of recommended bullet hells?

>> No.7798524 [DELETED] 

>>7798478
Chasers are so creepy and obv

>>7798487
Umm pog chart!

>> No.7798534 [DELETED] 

is a fucking >forum
really the best resource for learning mechanics?

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>noooo you can't just post bantz in the shmupg thread!!!!!! you can only talk about bullet hypno strats, sickgrabs, lolicon and HRT!!

>> No.7798550 [DELETED] 

>>7798535
what the fuck are you on

>> No.7798602 [DELETED] 

>>7798535
Problem is you are socially inept and your bants ain't funny.

>>7798270
Reco and Palm, best characters for me.

>> No.7798609

>>7798248
It's really good, the game is a good length, not too long or too short. Gameplay density is well balanced. Survival is fun and scoring system is well made overall. Also the Akira aesthetics and boss fights are awesome

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>>7798080
here's the stock chav screeched for everyone to buy on april 28th because it was set to explode and he'd make 10k after the merger

the larp never ends with dis guy

>> No.7798701 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
>tattoos
She's a Yakuza princess, isn't she?

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>>7798658
meanwhilst my portfolio is looking proper mint

>> No.7798712 [DELETED] 

>>7798702
live
action
role
play

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>>7798712
cope

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>>7797524
>flail in bmups.
Sounds more fun than cutting my dick off and chaining in doodoopoopy.

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>>7798727
>USPS
chav, we know you live in uk... this larp is pathetic

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the question isnt if you have an account on a stock trading site btw, the shares are FAKE until we see the RECEIPTS

simple.
as.

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>>7798791
>>7798797
not chav

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>esc
you are from the Third World and you have to play Dodonpachi horizontally in a Playstation Vita.

>> No.7798827 [DELETED] 

>>7798817
my bad bruv, just here to call out chav's delusional larps and have a giggle

>> No.7798834 [DELETED] 

>>7798797
>chav gives you tips
>every single one proven an earner
>more concerned about seeing chavs earnings than focusing on what you could have if you listened.

Chavs right clast is kind of dumb.

>> No.7798841 [DELETED] 

>>7798658
áre you retarded? i bought in trch at 1.30 for one and the merge isnt until june, vote is on 11th and merge probs 12/13th and it'll blow up. You still can buy in now at good price. So no not a larp, be smarter.

>> No.7798849 [DELETED] 

>>7798834
>a 30 year old man who lives with his mom and has dedicated his youth to vidya and cooming to jpop girls is kind of dumb
yeah we know

>> No.7798850 [DELETED] 

>>7798827
not me and you're the only fool here, why would i care what you think when im making money and every tip is blowing up? youre a lost cause and its not my problem.

>> No.7798852 [DELETED] 

>>7798658
oh and goldman sachs just invested heavily into it for the merger, you should be a lot smarter than you are as this is common knowledge among investors. Dividend is set on the 11th, predicted 4/5 dollar.

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>>7798850
it's easy to btfo me and prove you're not a machine gun liar, just post the receipts mate...

>> No.7798863 [DELETED] 

>>7798852
how do I invest in CLP Capital Management?

>> No.7798865 [DELETED] 

>>7798849
you forgot wastes 10 hrs a day on video games he doesnt even like much for youtube money, if he had invested what he earned from them as i said into the shares i said he'd have over doubled his total wealth. The merge will hit 5-7 a share.... if he bought in when i did for 10 he'd make thousands. Not my problem though, let the idiots think what they like, every tip so far has been a winner.

>> No.7798882 [DELETED] 

>>7798858
For what reason? ive shown you the shares and they ALL have made big gains, TRCH will be big aswell, worry about what you can do with YOUR money with PROVEN tips, why would i know these shares if i wasn't invested in them? you're a weirdo who can't see a good tip when its right there because of your fear of everything so you need to see what everyone else is doing, take the TIPS and make YOUR own money and il make mine, you should be grateful, if you;d put 10k on AMC when i said today youd of made 5k.....

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>>7798882
>For what reason?
stopped reading there

L A R P

>> No.7798896 [DELETED] 

>>7798863
dont worry about that just keep an eye on trch and buy the nest dip or buy now at 2.30, promise youll make money on it come merge, trch merges with metamaterials and now tesla is hinting at collab with meta materials.. = TO THE MOON

I have a wild card gamble share going with vinco who merge in 2 days with a media company for the indian market.

>> No.7798903 [DELETED] 

>>7798887
ok? don't take the tips, its your loss, not my problem.

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what happened to leaving the community behind now that you're rich off a 20% increase in amc stock btw

the pathological liar strikes again... sad... cringe... oof...

>> No.7798909 [DELETED] 

>>7798865
>wastes 10 hrs a day on video games he doesnt even like much for youtube money
how much money you make from vidya rob?
>>7798896
how much of my net worth you reckon I should set aside for wacky /shmupg/ speculation?

>> No.7798919 [DELETED] 

>>7798906
im leaving dont worry, just cleaning up loose ends.

>>7798909
Nothing wacky about it, when the merge happens you own shares in both, i'd honestly go all in however much you can for trch as soon as poss then on merge day watch live prices and sell if it goes above 5-7 then move oney back to amc for MOON assuming the short squeeze hasnt happened.

>> No.7798928 [DELETED] 

>>7798919
>im leaving dont worry, just cleaning up loose ends.
don't leave, we need a voice of reason.
>>7798919
just sounds risky to me mate. don't you think this publicly available info has been priced in already?

>> No.7798941 [DELETED] 

>>7798928
up to you, its your money, trch sold off all assets all its oil fields etc so it goes into the merge with no debt, it merges with meta material which in turn is doing things with tesla, theres no way that share isnt gonna increase a LOT, the dividend will decide if i hold or sell on merge day, if its 5 dollar dividend think how much guaranteed free money you just acquired for security which is paid out in dec?

>> No.7798952 [DELETED] 

When I need stock tips, my go-to is a middle aged NEET on welfare living with his parents who regurgitates info from YouTubers. That's the ticket to an early retirement.

>> No.7798962 [DELETED] 

>>7798952
>>7798952
keep ceething, every share i said has made money, meanwhilst you idiots listened to "experts" with anime avatars who were WRONG in every single case lmao

>> No.7798986 [DELETED] 

Why do rob and chav seethe at each other nonstop now? Is it because rob cucked out and got a job and tinder account and thinks he's normal, whilst chav is still being based af?

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>>7798986
>chav
>based

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>>7798986
>and thinks he's normal,

........

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>>7798986
it's because i call him out on his bullshit while everyone else quietly ignores it or plays along

if you challenge chav, he'll autistically screech at you for the rest of his life. see based jonny5.

roasting him is just a fun pastime for me, but chav is always getting rumbled to his core... hard times on the dole...

>> No.7799059 [DELETED] 

>>7799029
this is how dumb rob is and its amazing, you can literally give him guaranteed money making tips and he will pass on that obsess over somethnig else, quote some retards and miss out on everything then double down on calling you shit even after youve proven all your tips earn. He thinks he "calls you out" but is so incapable of conversation or thought he can't even tell when a point has been made or even understand it so just keeps spamming memes.
he's hilarious and really tragic and can't see a good helpful tip when it smacks him square in the face lmao. If you ever have the misfortune of listening to any conversation between him gus and akagi you will feel the deep depression of realizing idiocracy was true... and theres nothing you can do to explain anything to them ever as they are too far gone.

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>>7799059
>this
stopped reading there
RECEIPTS

>> No.7799093 [DELETED] 

>>7799074
see? rob even proves it unwittingly.

>hey rob invest in these shares you will make money
>HURRRRR CHAV SHOW ME URS
>shares go up
>rob you coulda made good money
>HURR SHOW ME HOW MUCH U MADE
>dude look at the increase what about YOUR money? im literally helping you get wealth?
>HURRR SHOW ME UR MONEY LARP CHAV LOL

this is how dumb rob is instead of listening and making a lot of money and saying thanks for the tips his autism shifts his focus into some weird shit that is all about what others do instead of what hes doing.


its like telling rob theres a pot of gold somewhere and hes like SHOW ME UR POT OF GOLD FIRST..?????? but dude go get your own pot is just THERE... NO SHOW ME YOUR POT FIRST LARP FAKE

??????


This is how bad things really are with these people.

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>>7799093

>> No.7799103 [DELETED] 

And no amount of reasoning will get his brain to see it so just smile, laugh at him and let the idiots keep barking whilst you make money.

>> No.7799126 [DELETED] 

Quality shoot 'em up discussion.

>> No.7799137

my favorite shmup is Dolesmiles

>> No.7799183

>>7799137
for me, it's Deathshares

>> No.7799208 [DELETED] 

>>7799029
Jonny5, the legend rumbled chav so hard he does it from beyond the mists of time

># of times jonny5 has thought about chav in the year of our lord 2021 : 0
># of times there has been public ceethe over jonny5 this year : [file too large to display]

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>*autistic screeching intensifies*

>> No.7799251 [DELETED] 

>>7798702
does this means that you've made less than 2500 fucking yankee bucks in 5 years

>> No.7799393

Redpill me on how long hypers last in DOJ

>> No.7799430 [DELETED] 

The ceethe is real, the illness...is FAKE!

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>/ourlad/ chum took the beltpill

it's over shmupbros... we lost...

>> No.7799656 [DELETED] 

>>7799649
>my favorite bmup currently is sailor moon
clastchads... we win again

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>>7799393
DOJ hyper? just tested it, lasts about 1 second.
>>7796961
great points, I'll make a 10 second Strikers 1945 streamable vid (stage 1) to prove my 2-alls.

>>7796909
>step 3: ignore scoretism
Agreed, my ego is too fragile to compete for score. Unless the game is dead and the western record is easy to obtain.

>>7797294
Gradius 1? I did 3 loops of that (offline). Here let me make a 5 second streamable vid of stage 1 to prove it.

>> No.7799957

>>7799935
>Agreed, my ego is too fragile to compete for score.
it's just games brah, no need to devote your life to watching the numbers go up.

>> No.7800089

>>7799957
Yeah no need to 1cc, score, get good or beat a game. That's all tryhard no life traps.
Right now I stream a game for 1-2 hours and then switch. Playing the same game over and over is wasting your life. Switching games is the key. This protects my ego the best. How about yourself? How do you protect your ego while gaming?

>> No.7800095

>>7800089
not that anon but if a game is filtering me I like to over-exaggerate some of its minor flaws.

>> No.7800180

>>7800089
>How about yourself? How do you protect your ego while gaming?
Mushi futari original version 1.00

>> No.7800193

>>7800089
>How do you protect your ego while gaming?
Playing Xevious for hours without dying while saying modern shmups are not as hard as that game, even thought I don't play modern shmups.

>> No.7800368

When should you start looking into scoring for a game?

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>>7800368

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>>7800368
after you kiss a girl

>>7799137
lel

>> No.7800506

>>7798487
am i blind or is einhander not on here?

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>>7774621
Battle Garegga plays like most other shoot 'em ups as the controls are super-tight and the gameplay is full of bullet-dodging mayhem. It features basic gameplay in that all you primarily do is fire a stream of projectiles and deploy stocked bombs whenever you're in trouble. As you amass a collection of power-ups, your projectiles become stronger and you'll acquire up to four satellite options. These satellites are essential to your success as they have the ability to seriously tear through enemy forces. You can even alter their formation by the tap of a button in order to optimize their position for your given circumstance.

If you're looking to experience a long-lost yet undeniably enjoyable classic shoot 'em up then Battle Garegga Rev.2016 is a must-play game. It may be over 20 years after its initial release but it holds up beautifully.

>> No.7800818

>>7800814
ok but how do I manage the rank so I don't get btfo on stage 4 or 5?

>> No.7800821

>>7800818
The game features an adjustable difficulty system (rank) that will increase difficulty based on the actions of the player. As rank increases, more popcorn enemies spawn, enemies gain more health, enemies shoot more frequently, enemy bullets travel faster, and items fall off the screen faster.

Time: rank increases by a set value every frame, the value primarily determined by the player's autofire rate
Shots: rank increases by a set value for every shot fired, the value determined by the player's ship, shot level, and number of options
Items: rank increases every time an item is collected, with the value determined by the item
Special Weapons: rank increases by a set value every time the player deploys their special weapon
Bullets Sealed: rank increases by a set value for every enemy bullet sealed (note that cancelling bullets by bombing does not affect rank)

Losing a life will decrease the rank. The fewer lives a player has when they die, the more rank is decreased. Thus, the game rewards a player who doesn't stock up many lives at a time by more drastically reducing its difficulty.

Although rank is hidden from the player in the arcade release, in the Battle Garegga Rev.2016 port rank may be displayed in a widget on the side of the screen. The rank is displayed on a graph as a percentage ranging from 0.0% to 100.0% that updates in real time during gameplay.

Simple Rank Mitigation Strategies

Do not horde more than two extra lives. Ideally, try to suicide right before gaining an extra life from scoring.
Try to limit yourself to 2 options and power up the main shot slowly with large shot icons.
Do not set the autofire rate higher than 10 Hz.
Do not pick up excess items, including small weapon fragments. (All you usually need are a small handful for safety bombing.)
Try to stop firing when there are no enemies on screen. In addition, you can often tap fire to wipe out popcorn waves.

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7800824

>>7800821

>> No.7800826

>>7800818
never get more than 2 lives in stock
don't pick unecessary power up/bomb items up
don't shoot when there's nothing on screen
if you score, try to don't break chain up and suicide before getting a extra life
don't seal bullets

>> No.7800829 [DELETED] 

>>7776587
no they don't tranny

>> No.7800839

>>7775857
>il stream attempts if you really want to see it.
id like to see the Strikers 2 alls soon

>> No.7800940

What's a game that's
>sci-fi
>no milking
>no infinites
>no glitches/bugs needed
>actually fun scoring
>fun gameplay
>easily accessible via mame, emulation steam etc

>> No.7800972

>>7800940
Donpachi.

>> No.7801016

Anyone's arcade have shoot em ups? I went to a barcade tonight and the only shmups were in those multi-game arcade cabs. I was pretty disappointed and ended up playing rhythm games with my gf and some outrun.

>> No.7801036

>>7801016
I have a pretty good arcade with a whole shoot em up section.
For some reason the Blazing Star is double the loudness of every other game, so if I'm playing it people hear BONUS constantly

>> No.7801085

>>7800972
most underrated, underplaayed Cave game and one of the Top 3 they made, go figure

>> No.7801168

>>7800940
DOJ, Galuda

>> No.7801720
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7801720

What is the final boss of shmups and why is it 達人王 ?

>> No.7801721

>>7800972
>>7801085
>actually fun scoring
>fun gameplay
donpachi lacks these 2 things
the sequels are way better

>> No.7801732

>>7801721
the scoring modifies the gameplay completely making it really fun and rewarding, and cluster chaining is more enjoyable to full stage chaining

>> No.7801801

>>7801732
so fun and rewarding that nobody plays it seriously unlike the rest of the games

>> No.7801821

>>7801801
>appeal to popularity
Lol
The other anon won, you just lost.

>> No.7801823

>>7801720
>jaimers couldn't beat it without savestates
yeah pretty much

>> No.7801831

This game I don't play but pretend to like is played by 3 people in the world instead of 2, therefore it's better
Shmups community in a nutshell

>> No.7801834

>>7801720
>been playing it a bunch
>still haven't seen the first level boss
It's so fucking long. It just doesn't end.

>> No.7801841

>>7801831
Good way to put it.

>> No.7801843

>>7801821
let's see other anon's fun and rewarding donpachi scores first

>> No.7801849

>>7801834
It feels more meaty because of the length like youre going on an actual space adventure.

>> No.7801850

>>7801843
inb4 muh dox excuse

>> No.7801851

>>7774621
Hey guys op here, I'm kind of upset to see that my thread went so far off topic, can we try to remain within the shmup conversation only? I also think tattoos are hot, thank you very much.

>> No.7801859

>>7801851
the current topic is shmups

>> No.7801869

>>7801036
Just lower the volume?

>>7800506
Don't see Einhander there

>>7801851
You aren't me. Thread is fine.

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7801872

>>7801851
>I'm kind of upset to see that my thread went so far off topic

>> No.7801886

>>7801869
Lol, op is trying to backpedal now

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7801891

>>7801886
Epic fail

>> No.7801894

>>7801869
>lowering the volume of CHAD STAR

>> No.7801898

>>7801886
You forgot to delete your "name". Oof

>>7801720
Well the name is Expert King for a reason lol

>> No.7801908

>>7800180
Kek

>> No.7801916

>>7801720
>>7800972
>>7801085
I'm torn between playing Donpachi for score or Tatsujin Ou multilooping...They both have things I really like and challenges that appeal to me in different ways
Damn it

>> No.7801917

>>7801916
based Flobeaner larp

>> No.7801918

>>7801916
play RayForce

>> No.7801925

>>7800821
Thank you

>> No.7801926

>>7801917
He is set on playing Tats Ou, I'm not him. Take your meds

>> No.7801930

>>7801926
I thought he was set on being a chaser

>> No.7801934

>>7801916
I tried Ibara and Giga Wing, got filtered hard. I tried beat em ups but got filtered harder, why warriors of fate so hard?, I guess I'll pull a barcelona and play some gameboy baby games?

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>>7801934
>I tried beat em ups but got filtered harder, why warriors of fate so hard?
i'm thinking it's time for another round of COMFY AVP

>> No.7801941

>>7801926
what part of "larp" do you not understand, that means you're not him

>> No.7801948 [DELETED] 

>>7801941
You're delusional and paranoid if you think that's a larp

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>mfw horizontally aligned vertical shooters
On that matter, do vertically aligned horizontal shooters exist?

>> No.7801975

>>7801972
Giga Wing
Mars Matrix

>> No.7801976

>>7801972
arcade Contra

>> No.7801980

>>7801972
Good question, I hope not

>> No.7801981

>>7801975
Try again

>> No.7801984

>>7801981
Giga Wing if you turn your screen weirdly

>> No.7801992

>>7801972
Contra 4, sort of.

>> No.7802001

>>7801972
Not a shooter but Gaiapolis, bmup

>> No.7802028

>>7801972
>do vertically aligned horizontal shooters exist?
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H95BqODJnyw

>> No.7802042

>>7802028
Eww gross this one kisses barcelona ass. Don't like that game or route, downvoted

>> No.7802053

>>7802042
Unironically how the community acts

>> No.7802072

>>7802053
Chill
It's just games bruh
Better than being around the poser liar

>> No.7802336

>>7801972
Scramble, the ancient Konami shmup. I don't like it.

>> No.7803165

>>7801934
Going on the dole made me a worse gamer, worse at every activity I tried. True loser status for me, couldn't even post coherently.... so I got a job and fixed my imaginary illness now I can play shmups (Gekirindan) and almost get to stage 4.


>>7802042
Worse than the game shmelae shar? It looks like a shmup train wreck man. Can't remember which company engineered the shmelae shar monstrosiry but buzzy characters all suck the Strikers 2all conartist in shmups

>> No.7803209

>>7803165
>so I got a job
chav larp failed... he could never hold a job

>> No.7803246

I pulled a barcelona today, told my coworker (cute Japanese boy) that I 2 alled Sengoku Blade. So he gave me his number, wants to come over and see the shmup replay.

>>7803209
Who?

>> No.7803295

>>7801984
Is giga wing fun for new players?

Question about shmup terms, what do 1cc, 2 all, and route mean?
In shmup terms can synth mean fraud?

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I have reached level 6 with 1cc. Will it be even more difficult?

>> No.7803538

>>7803295
>In shmup terms can synth mean fraud?
I believe that's reasonable. like a fraud a ric run?

>> No.7803654

>>7803404
how much of shmups is fear of vaginas

>> No.7803692

>>7803654
quite a few have vagina envy desu

>>7801916
>picking between TITS and ASS
hard choice let us know the conclusion

>> No.7803786

>>7800940
Dfeveron.

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>>7803295
>Is giga wing fun for new players?
I'd say so, the reflecting gimmick is easy to grasp and fun to do, and it has four different characters to mess around with.

>> No.7804363

I just bought Mushihimesama on steam and I've been experiencing hitches every so often. I tried turning steam overlay off, didn't matter. It's supposed to have been fixed on previous patches and I don't see anyone complaining anymore on steam.

>>7787425
Have you noticed any problems? I also can't play it on fullscreen because there's some scaling problems I think on the background.

>> No.7804765

I don't get it bros, everyone says DOJ is the greatest shmup ever, but I don't understand.
Do you have to be gigaskilled to comprehend why its good?

>> No.7804947

>>7804765
>the greatest shmup ever
that's actually embodiment of scarlet devil

>> No.7805137

>>7800395
Source for this pic ? Been playin' ketsui and I'd like to see some pro gameplay.

>> No.7805146

How come Capcom let Raizing make the last 19** entry instead of Psikyo? Did they think Raizing was the better shump dev?

>> No.7805209

>>7804363
Also I know what the slowdown looks like, and that's not what I'm talking about.

>> No.7805231

What are my options to accurately emulate Ibara?

>> No.7805246

>>7786335
Fighting "games" dont count

>> No.7805252

>>7805246
t. never touched a fighting game

>> No.7805325

>>7805252
I did more than touch your moms ass with my dick faggot. I obiviously touched a fighting game that is SSF 2 turbo like everybody else.
Funny you come to the defense of fighting games instead of mentioning another genre because you know that if fighting games require so many hours is because of low lives treating it like a job aka E-sports cancer

>> No.7805328

>>7805325
this post was inane gibberish but yeah you don't play
Play a fighting game, they're fun
>b-but i mashed specials in super kuso 2
A real fighting game

>> No.7805349

>>7805328
No nigger
Also you know Im right

>> No.7805354

>fighting games suck
>i know this because i'm bad at super turbo
Makes sense

>> No.7805369

>>7805325
sounds like a pathetic rationalization of sucking at FGs to me

>> No.7805379

>>7805354
Who said they suck ? I said the only reason you need so many hours to play at a high level is because of E-sports faggotery. Thats why I put games in quotes because in that context its a job.
Also
>projecting this hard
kek

>> No.7805387

>>7805379
Your post doesn't even make sense
I doubt you know anything about fighting games
Hell can you even throw a hadouken lmao

>> No.7805410

chav... let it go... Rob won.

>> No.7805423

>>7805387
>Projecting this hard
Lmao.

>> No.7805424

Ok he was just baiting
Back to shmups

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>>7804947

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this was a good thread, learned a lot about shmups and how to get good; who the winners and losers are.

>> No.7805859

>>7805231
>https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68401
Supposedly MAME is ok. I think the PS2 version barely has any slowdown, among other smaller issues.

>>7804363
Bump.

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Astroblast is the ultimate scoot n shoot. If you think it's really Galaga then kys.

>> No.7806997

>>7805231
Don't bother m8, game is hard as balls wank yagawa shit bad hit boxes bad rng filtered me hard so dicking hard filtered me four times i moved to giga wank and warriors of fart and those are even worse , can't be beat,,,,, only jap larping no lifers with no skills and no gf pushing these games way too high me can't compete fuck rob and his money and hair and height

>>7805325
Aye it's all shite e sport shit fighter game players practice too much shmups not enough only 1500 hours what a joke me thunks me dumb boy love me dole girls stink Super Turbo too hard bad hit boxes bad rng cave game bad me thinks
me thinks me dumb boy me play wipe out today brrrrr me illness kicking in need more excuses blue light hurting me eyes now,...copes and me game opinions are utter shite just kill me

>>7805379
Me on the dole me mama does me laundry and no time to get good at any games m8 time to hop to another one me ego is hurting why rob so good

>> No.7807316

>>7805146
Their inhouse teams were making better, more important and profitable games? Shmups are dead and even back then their death was incoming

>> No.7807320

>>7803538
>a fraud a ric run
What kind of shmup achieve is this?

>> No.7807508

I'm trying to remember a game that I think was a schmup. What I remember is there were four selectable female characters, and as a reward for higher scores or faster completions, the characters would get progressively sexier, like with Samus in Metroid. I believe the characters were American, German, Japanese and British. I recall a WWII aesthetic, but I don't think it was literally WWII, maybe. Does anyone know what game I'm thinking about?

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7807530

>>7807320
claim you beat some hard games when asked for proofs you disappear.

>> No.7807817

Is M2 releasing an English version of Ketsui?

>> No.7807878

>>7807817
It's possible but unlikely. Ketsui on mame is great though.

>> No.7807884

>>7780525
>surprising? because after 7000 hours I had a Sengoku Ace 2all (harder than it seems), and I reached the second loops of Gradius 1 & 2. And I couldn't beat Daioh after 8 months of practice on top of the 7000 hours of experience
lmfao jajaja

>>7807817
how far can you get in ketsui ?

>> No.7807885

>>7807884
Stage 2 then I die, I just heard that the port was amazing.
I like playing it though.

>> No.7807898

>>7800395
what version of ketsui is he playing? i don’t remember anything with a blank background. also source of pic?

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7807906

Got into shmups this week due to seeing someone screenshot Kaen from the Sengoku Blade Switch release.
The arcade version is so much better than the Saturn port now it's made me wonder if I haven't missed out on arcade versions that were better since I usually play Dreamcast/Saturn ports.

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7808219

What stick do you guys use?

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>>7808219

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7808967

>>7807906
>The arcade version is so much better than the Saturn port now
for Sengoku Blade? How do you figure? The game is basically the same as far as I can tell. About all the Saturn port adds is voice-acting (and the secret character Marion). Unless there's something I'm missing.

Granted I'll tell people to just boot up mame to play the game (or soitch/snoy if you NEED to spend money) vs buying the overpriced saturn port.

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7808976

>>7808967
>soitch
>spend money

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>>7807508
this game is the infamous strikers 1945, a very excellent game that I 2all'd it and all its sequels in 7000 hours or less, just take me at my word on this (I can provide a stage 1 streamable on request). let's be real, they're great games and the german pilot is the hottest of the bunch.

>> No.7808987

>>7808978
Let it go, bitch.

>>7808967
Rule of thumb always go for the arcade version over ANY port. Full stop.

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>>7808978
Thanks, I have no idea why I wasn't able to find it through google, I guess Capcom WWII schmups kept getting in the way

>> No.7809630

>>7808967
They changed Koyori's voice to a higher pitched actress and it sounds really out of character.
The coins give a different sound effect depending on what timing you catch them, making a special sound when you catch them at max points but in the Saturn version the special sound always plays.
The robotic voices of the samurai you fight in the first 3 levels are just normal voices for 2/3 of them.
They also added some really uncanny breast jiggle to Koyori's cutscenes.

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7810623

>>7808219

>> No.7810787

Are there any shmups with fun and not broken scoring?

>> No.7810813

>>7810787
>fun scoring
Depends on your preferences and whether you like complex scoring, simple scoring, chaining, multilooping for hours, milking, etc. It would help if you could give your question more context.

>broken scoring
Broken how? If a game has infinite scoring glitches you could still score it just avoid doing those exploits and see how far you get. It's not like anyone cares or these games have active leaderboards that care how you score.

>> No.7810815

>>7810813
Games that avoid infinite milking, milking in general, avoids chains and multiloops

>> No.7810848

>>7810815
Shikigami no Shiro
Crimzon Clover world ignition
Rayforce
Thunder Dragon 2
Dangun Feveron
Mushi Futari Original/Maniac
Dragon Blaze
Salamander 2

>> No.7810976

>>7810787
All Cave games

>> No.7811270

It's okay to quit shmups if you aren't having fun, a lot of weirdos stick around for some reason even after the genre is stale to them then they just complain and cause drama fuck off.

>> No.7811285

>>7810787
Touhou 8

>> No.7811770
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7811770

>practice this for hundreds of hours
>obtain nothing in return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9h8-vzqME&t=20s

do /shmup/ gamers really... ?

>> No.7811783

>>7811770
>obtain nothing in return
>Euclid called a slave and said "Give him threepence, since he must make a gain out of what he learns."

>> No.7811947

>>7811270
>a lot of weirdos stick around
90% of the entire community, go dig around why they really play, hardly any enjoy it in any meaningful sense, it's a sick digital heroin addiction.

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7812019

>farm consoomers losing their minds over capcum stadium getting vsync on switch even though it still has input lag out the ass
Is there a term for this kind of psychological abuse?

>> No.7812038

Just fed through RayForce, visually amazing but jesus fuck its hard

>> No.7812056

>>7812038
great game with awesome scoring for an old classic shmup.

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>>7812038
stage 5 and 6 are pretty nightmarish, I agree. It's an awesome game but I am far from being able to beat it without 4 or so continues. It's made for us freaks, you see

>> No.7812329

>>7812312
You have to be insane to beat rayforce on one credit

>> No.7812332

fucking taito lasers man

>> No.7812407

How is this thread still up it's immortal

>> No.7813289

Playing through some of the Cottons since Reboot is coming soon. Boy, is 100% a bit of snoozer compared to the rest.

>> No.7813394

>>7813289
People say the highest difficulty makes it a little better but I agree, it's like watching a slow conveyer belt of pretty graphics slide by.

Cotton 1, 2, and Reboot are all significantly better (though 1 is best played on the x68k/remake, or the pce imo).

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>>7809630
>They also added some really uncanny breast jiggle to Koyori's cutscenes.

>> No.7813530

>>7813519
That crap don't add anything to gameplay so ....

>> No.7813585

>>7813530
it adds something to my gameplay alright.

>> No.7813813

>>7813394
>though 1 is best played on the x68k/remake, or the pce imo
Redpill me on this lad.

>> No.7813935

>>7811770
>obtain nothing in return
obtain the ability to play a hard game very good

>> No.7813963

What does spinning your ship do in Psyvariar?

>> No.7813989

>>7813963
damage your wrist or thumb, depending on your controller

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https://twitter.com/ZARASOKU/status/1399249111539355649

cavebros... i don't feel so good...

>> No.7814362 [DELETED] 

>>7814337
finally, let it fucking die already

>> No.7814367 [DELETED] 

>>7814337
maybe Sega will buy them out or something

>> No.7814531 [DELETED] 

>>7814337
it's so fucking over

>> No.7814556

are shmups officialy dead? even Cavefans aren't streaming or posting scores

>> No.7814571

>>7814556
the gang will say "don't worry maybe they are busy irl"
but in reality the westie community is declining over time, all they have for new generation are novice players, prove me wrong
the japanese streams still going strong btw

>> No.7814578

novice reporting in

>> No.7814638

I started playing Megadrive shmups a while ago and while I'm far from good, they are fun to pick up and play for a bit, works way better with my current lifestyle.
I ordered a stick and I plan on making an arcade like corner for a better experience.

>> No.7814673

>>7814638
There are arcade shmups on the easy side, try Gekiridan or Espgaluda

>> No.7814720

>>7814673
Never heard of those but I'll give them a go, thanks.

>> No.7814794

>>7814571
>>7814571
>prove me wrong
You're wrong. I've yet to encounter anyone in the shmups scene who doesn't engage with the games in some capacity and have some desire to improve and play, even if they have lulls in activity now and then.

>novice players
everyone started as a novice

>>7814556
Streaming and score posting aren't good indicators of a genre's activity. I play daily but rarely post or stream.

>> No.7815256

>>7814794
based onion drink

>> No.7815259

>>7815256
an onions drink would taste awful

>> No.7815267

>>7814794
>muh westie scene
>muh no one lives up to my standards
It's just the usual tardo cope from his bipolar chromosome-deficient brain.

Now someone is aiming to take his Thunder Dragon 2 score away from him and what will he have?
>but muh gradius 2all!

>> No.7815289 [DELETED] 

>>7815267
Let it go. He doesn't post here and streams based platformers for a healthy audience, instead of dead shmups for ungrateful slimy fuckers.


>>7811770
Sorry shmups don't have shiny mmo jarpig loot.

>> No.7815290 [DELETED] 

Oh tardos back? Where are those Strikers replays lad?

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>>7815289
>slavishly believing the spic caught lying multiple times now

back on the needle samuel?

>> No.7815446

Which is easier for a scrub Gunbird 1 or 2?

>> No.7815459 [DELETED] 

>>7774621

who is she?

>>7815267
>>7815290
who is tardo?

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>>7815446
Gunbird 1 by many orders of magnitude. While i like 2 more for the melee attacks they're both very fun. If you're not used to the games there will be a hard learning curve though. It's worth it though, they're so colorful and inviting.

For newbs it's better to either start with Yuan Nang (cloud girl), because her fast charge attack is powerful and cancels bullets, or Marion, who can shred enemies apart thanks to abusing point-blank autofire spawning of her homing stars.

Basically, use charge shots to kill big enemies before they get too feisty, or the autofire, or a mix of both. If you are using mame, set up save states before the bosses (especially every boss from stage 4 and onward) to figure out how to effortlessly dodge their attacks, since they look scary but are mostly if you tap out of the way once or twice, or find the safe spot. With the exception of the last boss.

>> No.7815502

>>7815473
Sweet, thanks. I think I'm going to mash it out during lunch break today. Any other general survival tips?

>> No.7815509

>>7815502
Outside of pointing out specific boss strats not much. You can only carry 6 bombs and you don't regain them on death so don't be afraid to use them. If you pick Marion her bomb at point blank does absurd damage.

It will be a long while before you get there, but when you face the 3 Pillars boss, weaken them all and kill them at once instead of one at a time.

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>>7815289
>He doesn't post here

>> No.7815857 [DELETED] 

>>7815289
>streams based platformers
QRD?

>> No.7816626

>>7815502
Pro tip: your shot will power down the more you use it, think of it as ammo, so if there are no enemies on screen don't waste your ammo by spamming auto Fire.

>> No.7816692

>>7814556
Shmups are dead and that's a good thing, now you are free to play whatever you want without caring if it gets you clout, upvotes, viewers, leaderboard fame or approval of others. Doesn't matter if it's 1cc futari ultra or 2cc Dodonpachi, no one cares either way and no one will watch the replay for more than 1 min.
One reason p*rikles cheated runs lasted so long was because no one watched them carefully, they skim through them and watch the last boss fight for 1 minute that's it.

>>7811770
>obtain nothing
That's good if true. I have a feeling some are grinding shmups to get a place in shmup history or see their name on top spot of a leaderboard yet the passion and enjoyment for the game is gone and they play out of habit and for secondary reasons.

>> No.7816846

>>7816692
desu sharing replays and shmup communities have been a disaster for the games, instead of people playing for fun of the game they congregate for the social aspect and clout and ''sharing knowledge'' which is just a way to puff yourself up and flex. So much wasted time for appearances

these are solo games meant for isolated fun by yourself

>> No.7817154
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who's the most powerful shmup ship and why is it Reco?

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>>7817154
any Darius ship because they can kill giant intergalactic space fish

>> No.7817201

>>7814556
Shmups aren't dead, but they're niche.

This is the BEST possible outcome for a genre, trust me. Look at Resident Evil for what happens to a popular genre. The big developers are basically like Hollywood and are interested in making a polished lowest-common-denominator game for the sake of profit. AAA games are practically on rails and interactive movies. Regardless of how one feels about these trends, you do NOT want something like shmups to magically get super popular or they'll morph into glossy euroshmups with health meters and shit.

Yes, there will be less quantity, but better quality. Hell, look at stuff like CRS68K and Crimzon Clover that you can get for FREE.

Even if they're not dead, there are VAST libraries across the consoles and arcades with very wide arrays of difficulties for any player.

Even if shmups were truly dead and no new games were being made (which is not the case), you'd still have YEARS if not decades of them if you're going for 1cc playthroughs, and potentially more if you're going for high scores.

Shmups are fucking eternal unless you do absolutely nothing else and have literally savant-like ability to clear all of them.

tl;dr There's already more than enough to last you for the rest of your life.

>> No.7817213

>>7817201
>This is the BEST possible outcome for a genre, trust me. Resident EVIL TRIPLE AAA popular argument.
Problem is shmups have a strong competitive element to them via scoring and difficult gameplay, they have built in leaderboards from the arcade era.... but they lack the competitive scene to motivate players to shoot higher and create excitement.
Theres good niche and bad niche. Good niche: look at Starcraft 2 it's niche by most standards but not dead. There's no fear of it selling out, but there's no fear of it going offline either. It's got like 300-500k active daily users for years.
Best thing for shmups would be to actually have a competitive scene with hundreds or thousands of players, not enough to warrant selling out, but not dead either. Right now shmups are niche dead in a bad way.

>> No.7817256

>>7817213
>but they lack the competitive scene to motivate players to shoot higher and create excitement.
so? back in arcade days before the internet people would play solo. it was rare to find another person to compete with or share strategies. and unless you were getting world records no one would know your name and initials lol

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>>7817256
>going to arcades to play solo singleplayer games
lol

>> No.7817334

>>7817213
Personally I don't need a competitive scene for shmups anymore than I do for Tetris. It's fun enough to me to just get good. But also there are plenty of leaderboards and recorded scores to try to get.

>> No.7817345

>>7817334
>>7817213
Personally if I'm competing only with myself my motivation to go beyond a 1cc or 2-all isn't very high. I might do light scoring but nothing crazy.

When I played MTG casually with my friends my motivation to *get good* was like 7 outta 10. When I started going to tournaments my motivation shot up to 11 outta 10, and the fun factor also went up a lot. I'm just wired that way and it's not about some reward or trophy, I just get motivated by competition

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>>7817264
savestates have rendered you retarded

>> No.7817419

>>7817358
I'm not playing that when there's a 3rd Strike, Darkstalkers or Tekken cabinet open with dudes ready to fight and talk shit

>> No.7817474 [DELETED] 

>>7817419
based

>> No.7817525

>>7817345
as it stands now going hard on shmup scoring doesn't make much sense unless you live in japan, but casual 1ccs are fine for westies and people are getting those a lot.

>> No.7817541

>>7817419
>3rd Strike, Darkstalkers or Tekken
I've always wondered, where did people learn special moves? Arcade fighters didn't have practice mode

>> No.7817549

>>7817541
many arcade games had displays on the cabinets that showed basic moves and specials. People also learned by watching and talking to other players then copying their hand movements by fighting against the AI. When you got decent enough fighting the AI was basically a practice mode

>> No.7817593

>>7817213
Feel kinda bad for people who are into competitive shooters, all they want are some people to fight ;__;

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>>7817593
>look up the (western) world record
>try to beat it

Simple as. You people make a problem out of thin air, always whinning on cords and chans, sort yourself out.

>> No.7817713

>>7817549
can see this working for capcom fighters that have 3 specials per character
not tekken however, especially multi part grabs

>> No.7817716

>>7817691
Yeah, score is obviously easy. I meant the "1v1 me faget" versus shooters.

>> No.7817749

>>7776587
Of course, they do. It's a fucking anime style.

>> No.7817862

>>7774635
I'm a total noob but I love the art style of this game, would 2 hours of practice during 2 months allow me to 1cc it?

>> No.7818031

>>7813585
It looks so bad.

>> No.7818045

>>7817419
Gay, I bet you need another dude to fuck too

>> No.7818260

>>7817716
There are weekly or monthly tournaments for the versus poohoos and you can find people on fightcade for Twinkle Star.

>> No.7818351

are you guys ever too lazy to plug in your stick and just play on whatever pad you have close by?

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>>7808219

>> No.7818613 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
>jap
>tattoos
fucking bizarre, I watch a ton of JAV and not even porn whores have tattoos there

>> No.7818637 [DELETED] 

>>7818613
>I watch a ton of JAV
Based DOJ superplayer in training

>> No.7818659 [DELETED] 

>>7794151
God I hate zoomers

>> No.7818665

>>7774651
Pathetic

>> No.7818685 [DELETED] 

>>7774621
I'm a English teacher from NZ and I worked 4 years abroad in Japan via the JET. A Japanese school girl once farted on my face.

>> No.7818693 [DELETED] 

>>7818613
Yes. Tattoos will stigmatize you in Japan and no one wants to do business with you. I witnessed that first hand with some British guys.

>> No.7818695

>>7810623
cringe but also based

>> No.7818704 [DELETED] 

>>7818685
Nice

>> No.7818707 [DELETED] 

>>7818685
How is that related to SHMUPS

>> No.7818715 [DELETED] 

>>7818707
Did you not read his post?

>> No.7818717 [DELETED] 

>>7818685
>>7818707
Yes...and I don't get it. I shat myself while counterstopping Batsugun on the first loop but I'm not bragging about it.

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>>7818351
>can't play on stick for shit after YEARS
Yup, I'm sticking to BASED pads

>> No.7818728 [DELETED] 

>>7818613
tats are censored in JAV, noob. that's why you see those mosaics

>> No.7818736 [DELETED] 

>>7818728
Nope they don't. Tattoos are a big no go if you want work in that field. Most agencies won't give you work if you have them.
You also can't enter bath houses or water parks which is great. Tattoos are for criminal westerners only.

>> No.7818749 [DELETED] 

>>7818728
only genitals (and sometimes faces) are pixelated so either they only have tattoeed pussies or you're full of shit, my figurative money is on the latter

>> No.7818761 [DELETED] 

>>7818736
>tattoos are for criminals
Amen.

>> No.7818775 [DELETED] 

>>7818736
>>7818749
Based retards.

>> No.7818784 [DELETED] 

>>7818775
4 years living and working in Japan, chud. Also multiple Japanese GFs. Back in NZ now but the yellow fever is strong as ever.

>> No.7818793 [DELETED] 

>>7818784
Sup Elixir

>> No.7818794

>>7774878
How is the input lag?

>> No.7818804 [DELETED] 

>>7818793
Not my name but OK

>> No.7818807 [DELETED] 

>>7818784
Should I move to Japan? I like my career prospects now but I don't think I'll ever get a Japanese gf at this rate.

>> No.7818826 [DELETED] 

>>7818807
Go for it, Rob

>> No.7818829 [DELETED] 

>>7818804
Sure thing

>> No.7818834 [DELETED] 

>>7818807
Do it while you're young enough.
Just know that you have to conform to their norms or you end up as an outcast.

>> No.7818893 [DELETED] 

>>7818834
Problem is I don't have any interest in Japanese culture, just the girls. Also I am already an outcast in my own country (California)

>> No.7818912 [DELETED] 

>>7818893
Won't work then...I think.
You also need at least some linguistic competence to get by in daily life.

>> No.7818937 [DELETED] 

>>7818893
being a dork in california means you'll be a dork in other countries too, don't fool yourself let's be real. wot u play btw

>> No.7818981 [DELETED] 

>>7818912
I know some nip just stopped learning because I lost interest in weeaboo stuff
>>7818937
t. Never been to Cali
If you're white and not a hyperdweeb Onions drinking Twitter user then you don't belong here

>> No.7819010 [DELETED] 

>>7818981
become a cholo and stop whining. that's caliornia for me : cholos and bimbos.
simple as

wot you play tho

>> No.7819034 [DELETED] 

>>7819010
I tried becoming a cholo once but my amigos stole my debit card and weed so it didn't work out
In between games but chipping away at rayforce atm

>> No.7819783 [DELETED] 

>>7818826
kek

>> No.7819843

no time for shmups so many good new games came out

>> No.7820184

Anyone have a rec for a stand to hold a switch vertically?

>> No.7820745
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what are the best shmups for NES and PSX? i just got an NES Advantage and I want to use it, but I also really like the PlayStation

>> No.7820753

>>7820745
PSX: Raiden DX, Dodonpachi, Einhander, Philosoma

>> No.7820771

>>7820753
Also: Raiden Project, Donpachi, R-Type Delta, Raycrisis, Raystorm
I wouldn't bother with NES they're all inferior arcade ports

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>>7820184
i hope you aren't going to shmup on a fucking switch

>>7820745
r-type delta and Salamander (1 & 2)

>> No.7820797

>>7820745
Gradius Gaiden

>> No.7820857

>>7820753
>>7820771
>>7820780
>>7820797
i'm planning on softmodding my psx, but are there any i can buy for a decent price or am i just going to have to wait?

>> No.7820859

>>7820857
>buy
yikes...

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>>7820859

>> No.7821038
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air kino

>> No.7821042

>>7804363
I had these issues with a pirated copy of Mushi, but when I bought it from steam it works perfectly.

>> No.7821212

>>7817691
>beat western record using cheats
>post replay
>grats! Upvote!
So easy cause no one watches replays anyway

>> No.7821424

Monitoring on this thread is something fierce.

>> No.7821431

>>7821212
Who are you quoting?

>> No.7821571

>>7820780
>i hope you aren't going to shmup on a fucking switch
it's comfy and nice when I don't feel like hooking up the saturn or the mister

>> No.7821783

>>7805137
>>7807898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTZw4JudVqg

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7000 hours of dad shmup practice
2-ALL the entire Strikers trilogy

>> No.7823772 [DELETED] 

>>7823756
>Spain
>Mexican
dumb tardohater

>> No.7823793 [DELETED] 

>>7823772
how long does the DOJ hyper last again?

>> No.7823843
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I finally cleared the whole trilogy, was piss easy for me; I have thousands of hours of shmup practice.

What shmup should I play next?

>> No.7823850

>>7823843
1cc? impressive anon

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>>7778639
>all the graphics in toaplan shmups are literally anime (japanese animated animation made in japan). And it shows from their environments to their architecture, straight out of 80s/90s detailed manga
So you're saying japanese mecha design, shmup ships and architecture are also "anime" give me a break.


>>7780191
>The hyper in DOJ lasts 1 second
to be honest that's how long the laser lasts in all retro Cave shmups. I tested them at my local arcade in barcelona

>>7821424
>>7817862
no one lives up to my shmup purity standards

>> No.7824246

what shmup will let me blow up rainbow colored enemies?

>> No.7824257

>>7824246
unironically touhou

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>>7823858
but will I be able to 1cc with 2 hours during 2 months or what?

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can I just say this has been one of the nicest shmup threads in a long time