/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7790313
Only retarded zoomers and seething crashfags think this

It would be a great game if it looked like in the cover art render, even DKR had 3D models instead of lame sprites.

>kart 64

the AI rubberbanding is absolutely 100% cancerous unfun garbage. Play any of the 150cc races and just try placing first

>>7790332
You're supposed to play with buddies, not by yourself. Get some friends you virgin incel

When you take off the nostalgia goggles, you really see how cheaply-made it was from the fonts and Silicon Graphics interface. Nintendo needed games for the 64, so it was impressive for the time. But the gameplay lacks compared to the successive titles of Double Dash and Wii. I think even SMK holds up better.

>>7790337
I heard inserting a rusty rod in your ass is fun with friends, why don't you try it?

>>7790320
>seething crashfags
CTR was the better game though.

>>7790313
I had amazing times with friends back in the day playing that shit

>>7790361
Cope

>>7790358
Please share and elaborate on your personal experiences incel

>>7790313
As a kid I found it odd at how intensely/hard the characters blinked on the selection screen

>>7790332
Its more than doable but it can be hard. But it doesn't matter because i always get first place by the end of cup. All that matters is that no one else gets a higher score before the end of cup.

>>7790395
Sounds like you’re the one doing the coping, anon.

>>7790430
Seethe

>>7790332
Git gud. Anyways MK64 really shines in multiplayer mode.

>>7790432
>>>/Reddit/

>>7790313
No. But it's an average Mario Kart game. Not to say that it is bad, but it was outclassed by later entries.

>>7790443
>git gud
>use a golden mushroom
>get the "you were passed" noise from CPU opponent 3 times before its used up

MK64 150 / mirror were wayyyy easier than super mario kart

>>7790346
the sequels being better doesn't mean the orignals are bad, that just means the series is great

>>7790451
>outclassed by later entries.
Super has the tightest controls and best racing physics in the series.

>>7790447
Still coping I see

>>7790361
>CTR was the better game though.
sure, if you're a toddler or a pedophile.

If MK64 is a 10/10, then Diddy Kong Racing is like a 100/10.

>>7790332
it's easy. if you're filtered by 150cc mode on mario kart then you are 100% dangerously incompetent at gaming and should stick to play with your microcock.

>>7790510
its definitely not easy, go on and try to place first in every race for a cup

>>7790313
there are no good n64 games

>>7790510
150cc is easy in double dash, wii, wiiu, switch its just bullshit on 64

>>7790536
wii? no. Lightning and blue shells errywhere

>>7790313
It's kinda boring these days.

Niggers be pickin nits

>>7790538
yeah but just play funky/daisy and keep doing wheelies and tricks its easy to be so ahead even blueshells wont catch the Ai up

>>7790453
Even if youre really that incompetent that you cant beat the CPU fairly, hint try mini boosting, you can still easily cheese it. You can abuse the item system either by intentionally staying in 2nd until the last minute, then blasting the CPU with red shells, or simply by defensevely using the items you get in 1st place. MK64 AI doesnt even use shells against you, if anything its one of the least bullshit ones in the franchise.

64 still has my favorite battle mode

>>7790562
thats great cope, now go go place 1st in every race and get back to me

>>7790320
fpbp

>>7790313
It’s fine but I don’t get the love for it. I’d rather play Double Dash or the Wii U MK.

>>7790332
But that's easy, tho. For all the rubberbanding they do, the AI racers have access to only a small slew of items that doesn't even include any of the shells, iirc. The only time I had a hard time with 150cc is when I played it recently and it seems like any fourth course of a cup and even Skyscraper has a glitch where the AI just keeps getting faster and faster and I actually can't keep up, even found DK repeatedly ramming a wall on Bowser's Castle once. Anyone else have that happen?

>>7791010
Mario Kart 64 had some had some weird glitches going on with the AI, specially if you managed to throw it out of the track. Two things would often happen, either the AI character you sent out of the course would be stuck in the same position for most of the duration of the race, or Lakitu would put the AI racer far ahead than where it should be placed. I remember this happening very often in Royal Raceway.

>>7791096
The bizarre thing is that it's consistent, occurs regardless of what I do, and is something I don't remember at all being the case as a kid. I half wonder if some physical part of the game degraded or something.

That said, it's a fun challenge actually having to get aggressive with items and fight off computer players, and it even carries over into multiplayer. It's honestly great.

>>7791134
This video showcases some of the glitches, pretty interesting, ngl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzrHCS6ndB4

>>7790313
It being upstaged by its sequels doesn't make it bad. I can only imagine really thinking this in earnest if you're a hipster who prefers Diddy Kong Racing or CTR.

>>7790332
>pick Toad, Yoshi or Peach
>actually learn when to use your items instead of just tossing it as soon as you get it
>learn to fucking drift
>come in first every race or get the gold everytime
Git gud faggot. I unlocked Extra Mode at age 9.

>>7790510
100% this - amazing how many of you suck at games so hard.

36/36 points is not hard on 150cc for any of the different cups. Learn to mini turbo.

>>7790313
kart 64

>>7790332
You can't beat a game for 8 year olds

>>7790313
It's better than Double Dash

>>7791240
>Luigi and Bowser indefinitely held up by Yoshi's far reaching telekinesis
kek

>>7790332
>filtered by a grain of difficulty

>>7791472
>Learn to mini turbo
I don't even think you need that much, child me beat 150cc and even Mirror with 36 points rather easily without it because I tried it once, fucked up, and saw it as pointless until I played Double Dash and finally understood what it even was.

>>7790361
Hardly

>>7790332
Are you fucking retarded? I only play on 150cc. You just suck at video games.

>>7790568
It's been done hundreds of times you moron.

>>7790361
Fun party game. Crash team racing, wave race and fzero x are fucking shit in comparison and have nothing on block fort.

>>7790460
Double Dash was possibly the worst Mario Kart. In fact I can't name one worse.

Super Mario Kart > 64 > DS > GBA > the rest >>>>>>> Double Dash

>>7790313
where are my time trial chads at

>>7790313
It's worse and more dumbed-down than its previous game Super Mario Kart. It's worse than its successor game Mario Kart Double Dash. It's worse than a sad Rare clone with "muh airplanes" on the same console trying to copy it with literal whos. It's dramatically worse than Crash Team Racing, a game that schools it on mechanics, variety, track design, speed and verticality.

Anyone who likes Mario Kart 64 lives life with a blindfold on, it's surrounded on every side by someone doing the same thing better, including by the same company in the past before it.

PC port of Mario Kart 64 with snaking when?

>>7792567
Cope

>>7792581
Now type that without crying.

>>7792586
>the samefag crash furfag still seething hours later
Sad!

>>7792581
Cope with having played more games and had more fun? Damn how will I ever get by!

>>7790313
It's still the best kart racer

>>7792606
Take your meds pls.

>>7790313
it ok

>>7790332
Get gud lol

MK64: A great game, ruined by Dan Burbank

>>7790313
Yeah for some reason zoomers really hate the N64

>>7790313
MK64 is kind of ugly and also a very simplistic-looking game, the controls are slippery, the AI is the worst. Single-player mode is boring. It has little content but I guess that can be forgiven because its old. On the other hand multiplayer is really fun, music and courses are pretty memorable, the gameplay is simple, but addictive. I still keep coming back to play it once in a while and beat all the cups, and I still hate it and think this is the worst MK ever made. I don't like this game, I don't think its bad, I think its mediocre. overrated and a case of nostalgia goggles at its finest. When people say "MK64 is the best kart game ever made" what they're really trying to say is "I had lots of fun with my friends, I don't care about anything else".

>>7790313
yes very silly bad folks do. silly, silly, bad folks. sillyheads. gosh darn those guys. i should lecture 'em a thing or two. golly

>>7793158
It is a good party game kart racer. When you say its controls are slippery how do you figure that? I can drift traffic on Toads Turnpike without bumping into anything.
>the AI is the worst
>Single-player mode is boring.
I don't even get this. Never would I even come close to not taking home 1st place on any 150cc cup. I agree theres no real point to single player outside of checking on shit you can and cannot bounce on as a shortcut.

Racer balancing is horrible. Have fun getting fucked in a four player race If your friends chose the lightweights.

>>7793261
Heavies aren't that bad in battle. You can take a balloon off a lightweight just by bumping into them.

>>7793171
>I can drift traffic on Toads Turnpike without bumping into anything.
Keyword here is "drift". Yes, once you learn how to drift and you get used to the controls/driving physics, its somewhat fine enough to beat the game. Still I can't, for example reliably avoid some obstacles like the snowmen on Frappe Snowland or get some item boxes. I don't know how to explain it, I feel like you have to actually fight against the controls everytime you steer your kart, it's just not right.
>Never would I even come close to not taking home 1st place on any 150cc cup
But I'm not saying its hard, after all the game has infinite continues. I said it was boring. AI in this game feels... really artificial? in other kart games the CPU players will try to act like real human players, here they will ignore obstacles and unreasonably boost their speed when you're not seeing them. Sometimes two or three CPU characters will appear so you can hit them and they will come back at full speed in 10 seconds like if nothing happened so you can hit them again, the rest of the characters might as well not be there. And If you happen to fall or something and the AI takes first place and disappears from your screen? yeah, well unless you use a shortcut that cuts through half the course good luck seeing that fucker again.

>>7790313
Yeah, people who didn't have any friends.

>>7793407
>like the snowmen on Frappe Snowland
>I don't know how to explain it
Yeah they are a menace. I know exactly what you're saying and now I think about it I had more trouble picking up item boxes on toads turnpike which should be easy considering they're lined up in a straight line than I did sticking to the middle of the road avoiding traffic.

Only time I found the AI tricky was on tracks you couldn't cheese like Moo Moo Farm and Banshees boardwalk. Generally I view Kart Racers as party games and nothing more.

The soundtrack is killer, it has this new-age sound to it.

Bad? No.

Outclassed in every way by other entries in the series? Yes.

Nostalgia is the biggest reason people still like/play this one.

>>7793905
Just kart racing with no gimmicks.

>>7790361
This. CTR took Mario Kart 64's formula and built upon it, it's without a doubt a better game. Diddy Kong Racing did the same.
>>7790395
>>7790504
>>7792305
>>7792335
All coping N64fags

>>7790505
And Crash Team Racing is a 1000/10.

>>7794153
>>7794156
t. coping literal fag

>>7790313
Diddy Kong Racing takes a fat diaherrea dump all over it.

>>7792402
>tfw gradually improving rainbow road times every time I reach a new paradigm in my non-vidya life

>>7794285
I've been playing Mario Kart 64 for the majority of my life, ever since I was a kid, it's the MK i've played the most. Never played CTR until last week when I finally decided to sit down and give it a try. MK64 is still good, but CTR is objectively the better game

>>7794656
Cope

>>7794703
Cope, seethe, dilate, you will never be a real woman, your parents will put your REAL name on your gravestone, etc.

>>7792335
*Double deck
Ftfy

>>7794656
Hows the four people multiplayer? Might give it a try with my friends.

>>7790332
>Play any of the 150cc races and just try placing first
Literally everyone who beat Mario Kart 64 did that for ALL the 150cc races. That was the point.

>>7790460
The original is the best

>>7790313
dkr and ctr are better
mario kart does have good visuals and amazing sound though
the gameplay is average at best
level design is decent as well

>>7794751
correct. you win.

>>7794732
I found CTR hard to see upcoming turns due to its low polygon tracks. Mario Kart 64 is the better game.

>>7790361
It was fun but cannot compete with Mario kart. It was too Diddy Kong racing but without the dope soundtrack

>>7790313
One of the weaker entries you could argue but certainly not bad.

>>7793905
It has very good music and the tracks are visually pleasing in spite of early N64 potato 3D.

These are acceptable graphics according to Nin10drones.

>>7797943
I'd rather see a texture replacement/3d model insert/raytracing mod for this than Mario 64

>>7792340
I don't get people who hate DD but love 64.

>>7791321
>not winning with Mario or DK

>>7797943
Imagine unironically being a graphicsfag about a 20 year old cartoon kart racer made for grade schoolers. It looks fine btw.

>>7797943
>black TV screen
Show us the real deal instead of some shitty emulator screenshot.

>>7798101
yeah, very readable and a nice aesthetic. I prefer the SNES game, but N64 is good for what it is.

>>7797943
lol no, fix your settings

>Mario Kart 64 is too hard
SMK was harder if i'm remembering correctly, still beat it when I was 7

>>7790361
tbu

>>7794751
>>7794994
based

Hey, if Tony Soprano plays it, then how can it be that bad?

>>7790332
Mario Kart 64 is very easy to place 1st even with the rubberband. The isn't hard at all.

The only time where it's impossible to win is if you have bad luck and fall too far behind, there's a glitch where the CPU in first will keep going faster and faster so it becomes impossible to catch up.

>>7797943
The sprite/3d art direction reminds me a lot of Doom, and I wouldn't be shocked if that's exactly where they got it from.

>>7798109
Why do you constantly complain about emulation rather than simply discussing the games graphics?

Mario Kart looks good for N64 graphics. It isn't full of fog, it runs at a decent frame rate and apart from maybe Yoshis egg track its bright and colourful without looking like green and brown vomit like Banjo Kazooie.

>>7790332

>>7790559
>everyone has to use the exact same kart and character to win
That sounds like bad game design.

I kinda like the rubber banding in MK64. I feel like the game would be way too boring without it. You'd just spend the entire race being half a lap ahead with nothing happening around you. At least with the rubber banding it feels like the AI racers are in the same race as you are, even if they still suck.
>>7800316
That is just something noobs say as a coping mechanism. People are getting hard filtered by mkw and are looking for any possible excuse they can come up with. The game is perfectly playable with any character you like.

>>7790361
So many cope replies to this post. CTR is the definitive single player racer. In contrast, Mario Kart 64 is leagues ahead in split screen fun.

>>7796060
Low polygon? They've got more polygons and detail than the tracks in MK64

>>7794732
IDK, I only played the solo Adventure and Time Trial modes

>>7796060
Low polygon? They're higher poly and more detailed than MK64s tracks
https://youtu.be/UK_smS1vltY
https://youtu.be/_QIrONp_zhU

>>7801953
He's probably talking about how the tracks in CTR become low poly as fuck in four player mode for the console to handle it.

I've played it on emulator for the first time today since I sold my N64 a decade ago. For me it's the best retro Mario Kart.

SMK is a really nice start to the series but the AI is unfair as hell because it spams a ton of custom items. It's a hard game, can be very frustrating. Most epic Rainbow Road though.
Mario 64 has good RNG, when I failed it mostly felt like it was solely due to me driving like a retard. The rubberbanding is cheap but if I was better at Mario Kart I could definitely unlock the Mirror mode. It's a fair game, driving still feels nice, it aged well for a 5th gen game. Rainbow Road is a joke though.
Double Dash seems more suited to technical players. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with a Gamecube and haven't learned to micro-boost consistently, but it feels kinda underwhelming at times desu. The soundtrack is forgettable compared to the MK64's fusion jazz and SMK's underrated OST. Still a great game to play casually with friends to this day though.

>>7790460
This.

I've played it on emulator for the first time today since I sold my N64 a decade ago. For me it's the best retro Mario Kart.

SMK is a really nice start to the series but the AI is unfair as hell because it spams a ton of custom items. It's a hard game, can be very frustrating. Most epic Rainbow Road though.
Mario 64 has good RNG, when I failed it mostly felt like it was solely due to me driving like a retard. The rubberbanding is cheap but if I was better at Mario Kart I could definitely unlock the Mirror mode. It's a fair game, driving still feels nice, it aged well for a 5th gen game. Rainbow Road is a joke though.
Double Dash seems more suited to technical players. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with a Gamecube and haven't learned to micro-boost consistently, but it feels kinda underwhelming at times desu. The soundtrack is forgettable compared to the fusion jazz of MK64 and SMK's underrated OST. Still a great game to play casually with friends to this day though.

>>7790460
This.

>>7790346
>you really see how cheaply-made it was from the fonts and Silicon Graphics interface
please elaborate

>>7801953
The tracks themselves look like they have about the same polygonal quality. The only thing Tiny Arena has over Wario Stadium is the more detailed stadium walls.

>>7790332
what? I did beat all 150cc GPs when I was 12

>>7790313
Ive never heard a single person say this is a bad game. Are you just inventing an argument for a thread?

>>7790313
I played with my normie friends once. One fucker touted "I'll fucking crush you I'm the best at 8" They couldnt grasp the driving physics and couldnt make a clean corner without eating the wall. Their reaction ? "Game sux" of course. Its pretty barebones though and I would rather play the WII game.
>>7790332
Git gud

>>7797943
>Emulator
>Black screen
>That fucked text and textures
This site really is full of zoomers. Game looks like shit though compare to other racers on the console.

>>7790313
It's not nearly as good as CTR, which is a much more dynamic and aggressive game

>>7804976
>They couldnt grasp the driving physics and couldnt make a clean corner without eating the wall.
I can understand that for Mario Kart: Super Circuit and Mario Kart: Double Dash, handling is not as kind, but Mario Kart 64 handling is very easy.

>>7793158
wipe the lube off your hand before playing video games

>>7804982
>compare to other racers on the console.
Like what? F Zero X? Top Gear Rally? Mario Kart looks better than most N64 games.

>>7807976
to be fair wasn't F-Zero X 60 fps? Game likely looked better in motion