/vr/ - Retro Games

Is there any way to despawn the minions in uber tristram? there's so fucking many now I don't think I can finish it, I just need to kill Mephisto.

>>7743514
So I guess this is it for me

>>7743527
Should have used a Terror wand or pulled out Delirium when the pack started getting too big.

>>7743827
Yeah it was rough ;_;

Fuck I was hoping this was a Diablo 1 thread. Was confusing for a bit. Anyone else try to play Diablo 1? Every year or so I try to do a run through. It's so good for something so flawed. Old Blizzard really knew what they were doing.

>>7743905
You're welcome here too! It is a Diablo 1 and 2 thread as far as I have been posting here. I haven't tried Diablo 1 myself but I heard praises about it. I just haven't gone around to it.

>>7743905
I played D1 as a kid. Loved it. Never played D2; wasn't interested in playing online because my bros did and it looked like endless grinding for rare items. I just wanted to kill spooky monsters.

The D1 disc was never really mine so I don't have it. My brother might have kept it, or lost it. Tried DevilutionX recently with the very shitty shareware demo and now I want the full game again. I guess I should stop being lazy and get it. Is Hellfire worth having?

>>7743935
Hellfire isn't really considered Diablo 1.
1) This was developed by Blizzard but contracted to some other company for development
2) It didn't add a lot other than a class which was a hybrid of all the others (and the ability to run)
3) There was some drama about Hellfire leaving in things as easter eggs that Blizzard told them not to

Anyone have high hope for D2 remastered? Broodwar and WC3 have already been destroyed. Really no reason to think D2 will go well.

>>7743948
>There was some drama about Hellfire leaving in things as easter eggs that Blizzard told them not to
Based

>>7743935
>it looked like endless grinding for rare items.

It's exactly the same as D1 in that regard. Sounds like you simply weren't aware of the rare items in D1 and thus never felt the need to grind for them.

>>7743950
I am absolutely 100% certain it will be shit and have no interest in it whatsoever

>>7743950
0. Studio is good but still tied to Blizzard, the fact that they didn't just remaster it the same way as sc:bw is the tell.

>>7743905
I recently finished a playthrough with DevilutionX. I'm now playing with the Belzebub mod, mostly because it restores the cut content from the game.

>>7744621
I'm considering playing through Nightmare/Hell in DevilutionX. We'll see once I'm done with Belzebub.

>>7743950
Broodwar remaster was great

Gigaoverworked is progessing steadily.
>100% accurate and honest damage displays
>a complicated IDing stat which lets a modder reference: weapon type, class-specificity, handedness, attacking type and strbonus/dexbonus; allows for much more complicated skill interactions with weapons (e.g. can now make it so Mace Mastery gives a specific Crushing Blow bonus only to maces)
>consistent +skill dmg% rules, makes it so charge-ups and missile weapon damage benefits too
>makes it so you can easily spawn any monsters or apply any skill as ctc
>more specific itemtyping, so the cube can spawn more specific items, so that affixes can select more specific items, so that the atomicTC can be modified
>+elem skill stats for every single element without using new stats (although of course by default only +fire skills exists)
>an elemtype for every single skill (e.g. Jab is phys element, Increased Stamina is stam element, Oak Sage is life element) so that if someone adds the new +elem skills they will do something
>monsters no longer use player skills, instead they use cloned versions of vanilla player skills (this way if a modder increases Jab's damage a lot, it won't make Duriel and scarabs ridiculous)

>>7744621
Isnt devilution just a port? (the page wasnt very clear on what it was) i am confused,also how do you find beelzebub? i have been considering giving it a run

Look at the difference in visual clutter. Feels like the remastered version has like 25% less space overall. Awful.

>>7745463

>>7745463
These visuals do not spark joy. They don't understand that sometimes 'less is more'.

>>7744595
>Studio is good
The studio is literally Blizzard.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-01-22-vicarious-visions-merged-into-blizzard
It's shit.

>>7745167
This looks and sounds incredibly promising for both bugfixing and modding.

>>7745210
It's the closest thing you can get to a source port until someone releases the actual sources. Someone got careless and left debug symbols in one of the Diablo 1 releases.
From what I remember Devilution only has some minor fixes like enabling hassle-free modern Windows support and the like, no gameplay changes.

>>7745463
I thought the part on the right is from Witcher from first glance.

>>7745609
how to play assassin?

>>7743950
I'm marginally interested in getting the full multiplayer D2 experience that I missed out on as a kid, when I was stuck playing single player.

Beyond that, I'd only really play it to write a cross-comparison to regular D2. So far the art style and direction look considerably worse than the original, so I'm really not interested in playing it for its own sake.

>>7746436
Traps, lots of traps

>>7746652
But not the fire traps, which are shite after Nightmare. Main Lightning Sentry and Death Sentry. Get your synergies. Use Fade or Burst of Speed; I prefer the later, but didn't have Enigma. Get Shadow Master. Some people like Psychic Blast, I never used it.

Think that's about it. Damage is all skill-based; you should be okay even with rubbish gear.

>messing around with monster skills/fixing them
>use a barb since he moves fast
>try using unholybolt with him, it does no damage
>change to a necromancer
>it now deals damage
>change to paladin, amazon, assassin
>it still deals damage
This whole time we were playing as a demon masquerading as a human. You doomed Sanctuary unless you won as a barbarian.

What's this "mercenary breakpoints" about IAS that I am reading about? so my merc has treachery and Andy's, is that enough to reach the breakpoint for a thresher?

>>7748020
>the breakpoint for a thresher
>the
That question makes no sense and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Use your brain and the resources provided. Top of the thread.
>https://pastebin.com/VSzR57pB
>===GENERAL INFORMATION===
>https://d2.lc/IAS/

>>7748020
Because of FRAMES you don't always get faster attacks just by stacking some additional +aspd equipment. You need to reach certain +aspd value to make attack faster by that one frame. Different weapons have different attack speed breakpoints. This image from reddit, it was the first result on google, fuck you all should give you an idea of how this works. Use the attack speed calculator this faggot >>7748030 gave you. Input your merc, desired weapon and other values. You will get the attack speed table. Go from there.
This applies to both your character and your mercenary. This also applies to other mechanics, which are faster hit recovery, faster cast rate, faster block rate. These also have such breakpoints. The total amount of your +fcr, +fbr or +fhr dictates which breakpoint are you currently at and how fast you cast, block or recover.
Faster run/walk works differently, every additiol +3 (?) % makes you always faster.

>>7743905
wat mod is this?

>>7746626
call it schizo but from what i head they are ready to shove MTX at it because they want to sell shit to keep the game a float.
D2 will suffer a fate worse than WoW Classic with TBC

>>7745561
>>7745609
>>7745463
its no surprise at all, also i saw better looking armors and grass mods in skyrim than what VV does it.

>fallen shamans have completely desynced missiles because Blizzard assumed the missile had the same speed on srvside as cltside fireball1, even though the balls get faster with higher tier fireballs
It's rather surprising how fast Warped Shaman fireballs actually move, it feels wrong after seeing the slow-mo balls for decades.

>>7748030
>>7748068
Ok thanks.

>>7748218
>it feels wrong after seeing the slow-mo balls for decades
Looks right though. I always felt they were flying a bit too slow.

>>7748218
Their color looks cute.

Well shit, I just wanted to do last on or two runs for today.

>>7748251
Are YOU THE SAME FUCKING BABA WHO GOT THAT IN MAGGOT'S LAIR TOO? YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. You're cheating

>>7748243
Yeah, that's the most extreme example though.
>Fallen Shaman=8 (fireball speed; in vanilla, all fireballs are this speed for cltside)
>Carver Shaman=10 (25% faster than clt)
>Devilkin Shaman=12 (50% faster)
>Dark Shaman=16 (100% faster)
>Warped Shaman=20 (150% faster)
I'm surprised they never fixed it, since they were clearly aware of it (they gave all the guest shamans "FireballEx" or other spells, none of which use the weird scaling missile function).

This skill function is also why unraveler5 (Achmel) shoots fake unholybolts. It reads down the row, which goes like this:
>unraveler1 = unholybolt1
>unraveler2 = unholybolt2
>unraveler3 = unholybolt3
>unraveler4 = unholybolt4
>unraveler5 = sanctuarycenter (a defunct cltside missile, which is useless since it is being released as a srvside missile)

>>7748020
You're not the anti-rack guy, are you?

>>7748267
Yes, that's me! Seethe more anon, seethe!

>>7748218
Same as the ice shamans, they seem unnaturally fast despite just shooting a regular speed glacial spike.

God damn, I was planning on just doing autism modding stuff for gigaoverworked, but I keep finding more bugs that can be fixed for normal overworked.
>Blood Raven uses a skill which is deprecated in 1.10f, which causes her fire arrow to not work (ever wonder why her fire arrow doesn't do any fire damage? because she's actually firing her normal arrow srvside by mistake)
>guest lancers use monpowerstrike, which is just as broken as Power Strike
>guest lancers use monicespear, also just as broken as Power Strike

any of you watch dbrunski? he's cozy af, didn't know there were actual quality youtubers out there that played diablo, any others?

>>7748650
How can a game this broken still be so good?

Really quite interesting watching you post these every now and then. Do you have a page somewhere with the overworked mods on it?

>>7748662
Dbrunski is pleb at best, but he's okay. Informative and enthusiastic, so I give him a pass.

>Informative autism tier
MrLlama SC
Killrobplays (Sadly stopped D2 stuff, his countess autism was beyond compare. Did meme and shit builds for the fun of it)
Dbrunski

>Kruggers tier
Kruggers13. Really knows his stuff, but REALLY doesn't give a shit. Funny guy.

>Informative normie tier
Rhykker

>Speedrun autism tier
Teo1904
MrLlama SC

>Amusing and or wholesome tier
djwaters22
jujjmentoz
CarbotAnimations

>'do some weed while watching' tier
The Iceman

>Avoid entirely unless you're autisitcally into PvP tier
Coooley

>Retarded Metafag tier
Djuntus

>Retarded tier
Xtimus

>>7748664
I post Overworked on D2mods, but all the documentation and updated bug information is included with Overworked.

>>7748713
damn, thanks for the comprehensive list, anon
i'll check all of them out, minus the speedrunners, because fuck speedrunning autism

>>7748713
need more love for enpherno, dude is just as knowledgeable as llama or dbrunski AND completed like 3 grails in a year, he's insane

lol my second mang songs in just over a month, rng is a strange mistress

>>7748662
dbrunski is awesome, unintentionally hilarious too

https://www.twitch.tv/dbrunski125/clip/DeadScrumptiousLettuceBIRB-BAZsNC9y3eaS8aXi

>>7749517
>grails a year
So this is the power of a neet. Impressive.

anyone ever had Colossus Blade drop from LK weapon racks?
looking for one so i'm making sure if they can even drop from there, so i don't waste my time

I died twice. When I remade the game, My corpse only had my tgod's vigor. That's annoying. I lost some of my best paladin uniques.

>>7750150
You equiped items in between dying the first and second time. You only get 1 corpse on reset.

>>7750124
TC85 bases can't drop from racks. Only up to TC84.

>>7745210
Someone else answered, but yes it's basically a modern OS port of Diablo 1. It has some nice features, the most obvious being widescreen support, but also some other graphical improvements like integral scaling and the choice of having texture filtering on or off.

Other QoL improvements are detailed monster HP bars, an XP bar and no randomized quests. There's more of course, but those are the biggest ones I think. It's basically an enhanced vanilla Diablo experience.

>>7745210
Also the Belzebub mod is called "Diablo 1 HD" on the mod site.

Here's the link: https://mod.diablo.noktis.pl/download

>>7750254
They can if you are a time traveler. Start in 1.07, rack yourself some top elite gear and version-upgrade it to 1.13 or whatever version you normally play on.

>>7750463
Why not just use a character editor at that point?

>>7750485
It's a function built into the game. Time traveling is much less so cheating than using Ladder Runewords in singleplayer.

>>7750124
>>7750254
sorry, i meant to say Colossus Sword

>>7750489
How can it be less cheating than something that wasn't a cheat already?

>>7750510
PlugY is technically cheating, but no one considers it to be for obvious reasons. My point is that if you accept PlugY, then time traveling is obviously not cheating, there's a fat button on the main screen that encourages you to do so, no external dll editing programs required. The only reason not to time travel is because of arbitrary rulings you have imposed on yourself. "No time travel" is equivalent to "single pass" or "ironman" rulings, they are enforced only by the imagination.

>>7750518
Time travel in and out of itself seems like a "single pass" or "ironman" thing, it's just an extra challenge for you to do, if you want to get every single item that ever existed. I agree that it's not cheating, but it seems like such a hassle to do due to critical lack of information on old versions and having to start from square one on version you wish to time travel from. I might go ahead and use time travelling, because I love the challenge old versions provide, but it's definitely not for everyone.
>there's a fat button on the main screen that encourages you to do so
Uh, what? I don't really get what you're trying to say there.

>>7745463
When the fuck will designers learn that higher res does not equal better? This was a big problem with Warhammer minis for a long time. Noisy, messy miniatures. Just because you CAN add more flair does not mean you SHOULD add more.

>>7750489
I don't know, man. He probably wants a base for some runeword. Unless that runeword is original, which I highly doubt, it needs some pretty good mental gymnastics to justify downgrading the game to a earlier patch, finding your base by whatever means were available then, and then upgrading the game to later patch and only then making the runeword added in one of the later patches.
Very much unlike using PlugY to make ladder runewords in SP, which are cockblocked to MP only for Jewish reasons.

>>7750725
I think it requires far more extreme gymnastics for the dummies that stay in a single version. Grails are meaningless these days, individuals are doing them multiple times per year. Tens of thousands of ethed BOTDs have been made, but how many double ethed BOTDs? How many indestructible double ethed Griefs? How many Prismatic 4os Monarchs of Deflection? How many mephbugged uniques? How many 25% FCR +3 tab crafted amulets? How many Prismatic Griswold's Honors? Negligible, because you are too afraid to go back in time and acquire the best loot you possibly can. You limit yourself out of fear that it will be seen as "wrong" or "cheating", even though the base game fully supports it.

Every time I see someone "find" another boring unique that has been obtained millions of time before, it makes me want to vomit. It's disgustingly mundane. Wow, a Windforce with +5 dex, the very same that everyone has? How about trying for something meaningful, like a +35 dex Windforce? Nice Laying of Hands, oh wait it only has fire resist instead of fire absorb? Garbage, might as well be a cracked hand axe. Cool, Mara's Kaleidoscope? Wait, you mean it isn't a Prismatic Mara's Kaleidoscope, are you serious? Might as well give it to Gheed, it's worthless. Time traveling allows you acquire gear that is truly unique, much of which only exists in theory because no one has the balls to go and uncover it. You know what is actually unique? The Spear of the Gods, a 4os double-ethed, zod-bugged Cruel War Pike of Quickness, is in many ways superior to a double-ethed BOTD despite being a "mere" magic item. That is the kind of sick shit you should be looking for. Sticking to a single version is living a mundane existence where you re-tread the same path that has been walked a million times before. The Grail is the Diablo 2 equivalent of peaking Mount Everest, it has no actual meaning these days. Time traveling is hard because you don't know what to do? Good, that makes the items meaningful.

>>7750725
But that whole scenario could have unwound organically by someone just playing the game and upgrading as they go. So, it's all aboveboard.

>>7750846
Bro... dude just wants a colossus blade... he asked a simple question if he can find it by racking...

>>7750878
And? Why settle for a mere colossus blade, when you can get a double-ethed one by racking in 1.07? You are gimping yourself for no good reason.

>>7750863
These are the mental gymnastics I was talking about. I'm sure you can somehow justify it to yourself. What about using bots in SP? I mean, they will be doing the same thing you would have done by the same means, just run LK and CS or other area with your character ad infinitum. Why not just straight up create all those high runes and top tier uniques through hero editor. I mean, they will surely drop if you put in the effort so why not just skip that part and be done with it?
Sounds to me kinda like it ruins the game and is definitely not organic. If you don't want to play the game how it is meant to be played, why even play it in the first place.

>>7750884
I was just saying that he just want to find an item to (I guess) make another item. He should do it by... ordinary means. Also this is just my assumption but, unlike you, he probably never saw a Windforce or self-made BotD if he had to ask that question so to him it will not be just another mundane item acquired million times before. New(ish) players should play the game like it is meant to be played. Powergaming could ruin it for him.
>updating the thread to see if there is another post to reply to
I will stop now, double posts and everything. I don't even know why I started this discussion. Everyone can do whatever he wants in a SP game, anyway.

>>7750878
i actually want a colossus sword, interesting how a mere typo can spawn such a lengthy argument

>>7716149

Holy FUCK MY ASS! I found mang song's in pits. I see rack shitters have turned into patch shitters (>>7750846), what next? Glide shitters? "BRO IF YOU USE GLIDE WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT LIKE YOU CLUTCH TELEPORTS ARE NOT EVEN REAL BRO"?

>>7751373
>FUCK MY ASS!
everyone here is already aware of the fact that you are a faggot of indescribable proportions, there's no need for you to express your homosexual desires

>>7751236
You should double check this because I'm not sure but the highest TC a rack can drop is TC(area level - 1). That's why you can't find TC85 items from racks, because there are no level 86 areas. In which case I don't think you can drop a colossus sword from LK racks. Colossus swords are TC80 and LK is a level 80 area so racks can drop TC79 items at most. Kurast Bazaar and Upper Kurast are level 81 areas, however, so you should be able to drop it from racks there. If there are any, I've never tried this.

>>7751373
>playing on glide
Disgusting, might as well use a hero editor. I only play on Direct3D on LAN over a distant connection, if my game is running a single frame higher than 5 FPS, then I will immediately delete my character.

>>7750846
What do mephbugged unique and double ethed mean?

>>7743508
>still playing Diablo 2 when Diablo 5 has been out for years

>>7751480
>mephbugged unique
Basically, in one version Blizzard fucked around with Mephisto's drops, messing with the way uniques spawn. What this ended up doing is making it so if (by incredible luck) Mephisto drops a certain number of uniques, two of the uniques will merge together: one will form the base item, and the other will form the stats. This is how you get godly items like Wizardspike gloves.

>double ethed
In 1.07, ethereal worked differently. It applies +50% maximum damage instead of +50% damage. If you transfer one of these to a newer version, it will still have the +50% maximum damage but also gain the +50% damage, for a total of +50% minimum damage and +100% maximum damage. And if you are super autistic:
>get an ethereal weapon in 1.07
>transfer it to 1.09
>socket it
>put in a zod rune
>hel off the zod rune (it keeps the indestructibility)
>transfer it to 1.10+
>it now has double ethereal and indestructible and empty sockets
Going through this process is a lot more difficult, since it means getting a Zod rune before the chances were massively buffed.

>>7751501
cry about it fag

>>7751517
Nice. Thanks anon.

>>7751517
>hel off the zod rune (it keeps the indestructibility)
Does this still work? Sounds pretty stupid.

>>7751547
Only works in 1.09. Back in those days, no durability and indestructible were synonymous.

pretty sure its still "possible" to get a mephbugged item IE just 9001% rarer making it basically impossible

>>7750846
Holy shit the autism

>>7750846
>omg you don't have a perfect eth tomb reaver?! holy shit you're worthless scum, quit playing d2 forever and stick to clash of clans, noob

>>7749528
I prefer him to llama.
Llama is just way too homosexual and emanates soya vibes.

>>7750903
>play the game how it is meant to be played
As I said, it is conceivable that that scenario could have played out legit over years of play. And you don't get to tell people that playing differently from you is somehow illegitimate in a single-player game.
Pull that stick out of your ass anon.

>>7752197
>>7752209
I don't get it. What's the point of grinding Diablo 2 if you aren't going to find something special? Continue on with your trash finds while I obtain the stuff of dreams.

>>7752468
>stuff of dreams
>not some organism inducing rare

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keep your unusable garbage while i autisticly pick up every rare like a high roller boss

>>7752567
>organism

>>7750846
Jesus Christ. I've found two zods pre drop rate buff, but even I'm not THAT autistic. I sure hope this is a bait post.

How is this mental condition called?
>>7750846

>>7750189
The funny thing is I didn't. Also my tgods was in my first corpse with all my items. Even if I accidentally did equip a new item, Why did it give me my tgods instead of said new item?

>>7752902
The game doesn't randomly decide to do something different after 20 years, anon. The items you get are from the corpse with the the most gold value. You've obviously picked up some items either from the ground or your stash, then when grabbing your body, only some items got equipped, then you likely died again spreading the items out more.

OR you may have had items that gave you str/dex to meet the requirement to use another item and thus been unable to grab them at the time, it can take multiple clicks to grab a whole body. There is a max body cap, too, oldest ones will start despawning if you keep dying too many times. 16 from memory.

You are at fault for not just restarting after the first death. The game is not broken.

>>7752924
>not just restarting after the first death
This. The ONLY times I would ever even bother going through the aids of trying to get a body back is if I were inbetween 98/99 for the XP or there was some item dropped nearby I really wanted.

Restart and don't risk your items by being a dummy.

>>7752468
Nobody. Cares.

Like 90% of D2 players don't even care about getting a fucking torch and anni, why would they care about your autismal attempt at garnering clout from essentially hacking the game that would get you permabanned from bnet anyway? Who are you trying to impress?

>>7749517
>enpherno
>never heard of him
>check him out
>nothing but project diablo 2 videos in 6 months
Disgusting. No wonder I've never heard of him before.

>>7753204
I mean, once you've obliterated 2 grail records what's left to do until D2R?

>>7751501
>aoe of exile
No thanks. PoE is too zoom zoom for me.

>>19668695
Gotta be the alt op. Better question is which one from these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTEuzLeFO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koRKPV23ITA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKkvbuLhEns

bump

>>7754545
Studded leather is the best zon armour.

>>7753246
Are you implying there will be something new to do in D2R?

>>7755748
we'll get to laugh about it

>>7755759
The white-ish one? Is this a trick question?

>>7755821
No, retard, it's just meant to show how little the D2R team understood about game mechanics. You're supposed to be able to pick out the boss easily at a glance.

>>7755826
>You're supposed to be able to pick out the boss easily at a glance.
>look here ok see this special neon colored snowflake this is a boss its even got a name *insert edgy cringe* and rng bonus effects like curses mana drain extra fast etc
>good mechanics
if you're going to shit on nu-D2 do it properly because D2 has a hell of a lot of lazyness and broken shit

fuck me I am amazed you can even see nipples let alone a woman disemboweled and naked also the artstyle isn't bad nor mediocre its just nailing that gloomy darkness isn't going to be really possible on modern non-crt screens
its like comparing hand drawn animation vs modern digital or trying to recreate the imperfections and grittyness it just almost never happens/works
unless you use the original tools and find ways to "modernize" the process without killing its soul

>>7755871
Nigger the one on the left is an entirely different colour to the one on the right and is much easier to see. It's just colour. It's not that fucking difficult to match.

Shut the fuck up you spastic.

>>7755874
dude bosses can look the same color in the OG now if this is the case with 5%+ of the bosses(which its not nor anywhere near) heads should roll
you're literally cherry picking off a tree with no fruit on it yet just flowers by posting the same 8 images over and over again

stop making me defend nu-D2 as if im some redditor coomsumer post fucking proper proof as to why the reskin is soulless

>>7756020
I know they CAN spawn like that, they shouldn't however be doing it to ones that already WEREN'T.

>>7755871
>unless you use the original tools and find ways to "modernize" the process without killing its soul
If they can't do this, they shouldn't be releasing a remake.

>>7754545
Objective truth coming through. These are the best looking.

>>7755826
>You're supposed to be able to pick out the boss easily at a glance.
If this is one of the biggest gripes you have with the game, you should be happy. You will like it lmao

>>7756837
>one of the biggest gripes you have with the game
Where did I say that? It's one of like a hundred things.

>>7756839
You were really aggressive about it. If this is one of your lesser complaints, you must be hell of a mad dude.

>>7756896
>aggressive
Oh please. Negative is not aggressive. Go back to plebbit if you want to be handled with kiddie gloves.

>>7756909
you called him a retard, autismo

>>7756915
Yes. Welcome to 4chan. I'd be upset if someone WASN'T calling me an insulting name you newfag.

>>7756923
he didn't say that he was upset, he said that you were being aggressive, which you were, and you said that you were not being that, when you actually were, the reason as to why you contradicted him is well...because you are a retard

>>7756931
I figured he was referring to the other five posts in the conversation, rather than the first. But sure, you're right. Not gonna apologise though, the anon is a retard.

>>7755238
the thing that i'm going to miss the most in d2 resurrected is the amazon's boo-tay

>>7756937
>I figured
You are not capable of thinking and understanding, much less figuring something, bro. Refrain from posting.

>>7756946
You first.

>>7756261
dusk shroud looks great on all characters except for pally
sorc midriff ftw

>>7756931
Holy shit, just fucking leave. There are other sites for you normie.

>>7757241
>normie
speak for yourself

>>7757241
>normie
spoken like a true normalfaggot

>>7757327
>>7757329
>no u

>>7757348
>implying that you deserve any better

The General's Tan Do Li Ga

>>7757464
what's the most annoying drop

Rakescar

>>7757482
Isenhart breast plate

Paladin 1: Smite and Resist Lightning
Paladin 2: Zeal and Resist Cold
Paladin 3: Vengeance and Resist Fire
Mercs for (Insight+Defiance), Might, and Blessed aim.

How viable does this party sound for a hardcore Nightmare? Trying to think of some meme teams since my friends tend to die at some point in Act 2 nightmare.

>>7757551
A salvation can be used instead of the +res
Then Vigor and Fanat.

>>7757569
What use is Vigor? Salvation and Fanaticism both require level 30 though which we are unlikely to get to quickly.

>>7757551
Better do Fanaticism, Concentration, Vigor + Might, Blessed Aim and Thorns mercs. Maximum speed and power. Paladins should have an easy time getting high resists anyway.

>>7757593
I wanted to try to push a consistent 95%.

Does thorns only apply to when damage is taken? Like if a monster misses, does it still proc thorns?

>>7757601
>Does thorns only apply to when damage is taken?
Yes, and it only counts melee damage.
>Does thorns only apply to when damage is taken?
Nope, because no damage was taken due to miss.

>>7757482
Kira's Guardian because to this day my lizard brain can't differentiate between Tiara and Diadem

>>7757551
If you want max survivability considering swapping one paladin to a barb. Battle Orders and Shout would add a lot of health and defense.
Holy Freeze merc helps a lot too. Not only slowing enemies' movement speed but all their animations too. Even works on cold immunes.

>>7757482
MANALD. HEAL.

>>7757583
Fast MS

>>7757551
Vengeance sucks unless you know what you're doing and have decent gear, and he shouldn't be the one to have resist fire.
If you want safety, nothing beats a Necro spamming dim vision, life tap and decrepify.

>>7758069
But what if you absolutely must use paladins? What should you be trying to go for?

>>7756261
ds zon/sin/sorc
ap pally
sp barb
naked dudu

>>7758091
*bp necro

>>7757551
>hardcore nightmare
retarded
literally just slap Holy Fire on and you can walk straight through to Hell without ever having to actually attack anything.

>>7758513
good luck getting one of the organs by playing like that.

>>7758513
Holy fire does nowhere near enough damage on the aoe tick for that to be possible.

What to equip physical bowzon with. I have WF, fort, LoH, highlord's, Gface, inventory full of +dmg charms and might merc with reaper's, yet she still kinda has problems even with P3 act2. Can't into enigma, shit resistances, shit HP. What a bad character.

>>7759018
>yet she still kinda has problems even with P3 act2
Yeah. It's a physical bowzon. They're shit. We're not exactly quiet about that here. Even with the best gear they will never reach anything approaching the other classes.

If there's anything I'd be okay with them changing in D2R it would be increasing the base damage on bows.

>>7759018
faith on act 1 merc > act 2 merc

>>7743508
has there been any news on the remaster? have they fixed the loading screens? it's a dealbreaker for me.

>>7759081
Nothing yet. Multiplayer Beta is soon, so wait for that.

>>7759072
How. Even my level 75 guy already gives me more damage than level 15 fanaticism, and that's only if I get max roll. I don't need the attack speed. He also does more damage than rogue and also gives me decre. Or rather he would give me decre but without teleport and with his shit AI he just stands behind me and enjoys the view too often. Fuck this guy.
Now that I think I could give act 1 slut wrath bow, she should be better at cursing. Although I would lose few hundred or thousand points of damage.
I would also get my yuri squad. This might be worth it.

>>7756261
>wearing anything but light armor
into the trash it goes.

>>7759137
look at the damage on windforce.
compare that to the damage on faith gmb.
buriza is really strong too.

>>7759339
I thought we were talking about merc equip?
>top tier faith GMB is about 60-320 damage
>windforce is 32-500+
No way that GMB is doing more damage than windforce even with the fanaticism. Not when you count in all off weapon %ED.

>>7759137
Breakpoints for strafe. Dont tell me you're a multishot pleb? Also so you don't have to use faith yourself.

Merc won't die as much and you don't have to wait for it to move around and get to enemies to make the most of their benefit. You don't use act 1 for their own damage.

That guy who replied is not me, it's someone else who jumped in.

>>7759373
Attack speed, anon...and yes WF > faith at high enough level and sttack speed.

>>7759018
Just stack some knockback and hit causes monster to flee from runes and hats and whatever have you, you'll still be slow but you'll almost never be attacked.
You might have to ditch the reapers tho, and also might want to use a shittier bow for dolls, so they run away again before they pop.

>>7759373
that's the point. you put faith on merc so you can use windforce.

>>7759464
I never needed more than the WF knockback and i play with anywhere from 6-700 hp at most. That combined with harmony on switch is more than enough safety.

>>7759464
>stack knockback
why would you ever?

>>7759420
I already told you what equip I use in my first post. Add +30 IAS from two jewels. All in all I have +90 IAS and I believe that reaches the fastest possible attack speed breakpoint for strafe with hydra bow. I don't need the attack speed and as far as +party %ED goes, might merc is superior to faith merc as soon as his 70ies. Vastly superior if you count in decre. And he can actually do his own damage.
What are you even talking about. Like, tell me both PC and merc equipment configuration that can reach higher damage than what I have here >>7759018
>>7759464
Windforce already has knockback and I don't get hit. Monsters are just not dying satisfyingly fast enough. This characters is ass.
Dolls are massive fags.

>>7759523
How much dex and life you got?

>>7759523
There's an anon here who did the grail on a bowazon, git gud scrub or go back to your meta sorc and hammershit.

>>7759535
100 hard points in vit. With ani and torch 140 vit and about 700 HP. I could get to about 1k with cta but I'm too lazy to use it because I need to have vigor on switch. Then about 40 points in str for vf and rest in dex. It should be at about 350 with everything right now.

>>7759557
I don't give a fuck. This is not about me being shit but about this character sucking ass and that's all I wanted to share with this thread. Possibly to get some advice but there is none to be had, seeing your escape.
But do tell me about the recommended equip, bro. Surely you at least checked the attack speed breakpoints before showing your tiny pleb in public.

>>7759570
I already told you you're not going to make the build not shit.

>>7759595
That's all I wanted. Thank you.

>>7759090
>soon
have they hinted at a time?

>>7759920
No. Best guess 2 weeks, if not then, then 27th june i.e. LoD release anniversary.

bump

I relocated all my vitality points into dex and maxed out penetrate. It seems my damage problems were mainly rooted in attack rating and chance to hit. The LCS says the chance to hit grew anly by about 10 % (80-88%) but from the amount of knockbacks and firestorms I feel like it at least doubled or something.
Now I'm really living on the edge. It's kinda entertaining to be honest. Like in the old CS when you started zealing right when an oblivion knight appeared on the edge of screen and cast iron maiden. That's what my life is in meph's hold if I accidentally start strafing and then dolls appear out of nowhere right next to me. I don't think this will be playable in WK. Gloams will definitely one shot this character.

>>7761301
Thats why you carry a tgods to switch in your inventory.

>>7761301
>valk AND freezing arrow
What the fuck are your skills? Show them.

>>7761478
Right now 20 strafe, 20 freezing arrow, 20 cold arrow, 1 point in valk and prereqs, 1 point in CS and pierce, rest in penetrate.

Started my first ever hardcore char, a druid. I'm listening to Ronnie James Dio and roleplaying the "heavy metal dude struggling with a beast within", cause he's a ponytailed warrior and also a werewolf. House rules are no godly items transfered from other chars, and I can only pick up and use items in human form (including potions).

Almost died twice trying to kill blood raven.

It's fun

>>7761802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rDKL_nSf1A&ab_channel=BlackSabbath-Topic

based dio chad

>>7761548
not that anon but do you have peace?

>>7761548
That is not a physical bowzon. Respeced into hybrid?

>>7761802
Enjoy anon. Druid is really fun

>>7762031
No, I'm using fortitude >>7759018. Although I am thinking of dropping that in favor of enigma.
>>7762034
I-it isn't? I'm using strafe and multi shot with pure physical damage. What do you even dump points after you max strafe? Every passive and magic skill except valk is one point wonder and I am not dumping points into multiple shot nor magic arrow. Freezing arrow is the clear choice for secondary damage skill.

>>7762056
Max strafe or multi. Only use one. Enough in pierce to hit high 90s, max guided arrow for bosses, some or even max magic arrow for physical immunes, crit to the point you're barely getting anything from more skills, rest split between penetrate and valk if you want her.

40 fucking points into cold skills is not a physical bowazon.

>>7762056
You're playing hybrid, anon. If that's what you want then sure, but you'll find going full cold would be better than gimping yourself with phys gear to try and pretend you're playing phys.

>>7762089
But I am using strafe and multi shot and also use equipment used by physical fighters. There is not a single slot used for freezing arrow or anything other than physical damage. I already barely get anything more from investing into crit strike and I wouldn't do it anyway because I have decent deadly strike and there is absolutely nothing to gain by dumping points into multiple shot. My pierce chance is kinda low but I could always wear razortail for that and I am thinking of investing into it, anyway, because I've just now maxed penetrate. I don't know about guided arrow but it doesn't look like a good investment. What do I get from leveling that up. A minuscule added damage. Few hundred points of damage to be exact. I wouldn't even notice the difference with my 400+ dex and might aura. The always hit property is there from the start.
I really don't think that your skill tree is the only thing that determines what "build" you play. You need to also include equipment into that. My build is physical amazon using bows however I look at it.
>>7762113
Freezing arrow is a pretty good skill but I don't think it would keep up and the build seems to fall apart the moment you meet CI. I could mix it up with exploding arrow but then I would have to sacrifice some equipment slots so it wouldn't be full cold build but some kind of hybrid.

>>7762183
>fa
>not keeping up
It's better end game than phys will ever be.

If you aren't gonna have 100% pierce, you honestly shouldn't bother with freezing arrow, it needs the overlapping explosions to pull its weight.

>>7762202
Like I said. I agree it's a very good skill and it is much easier to realize it's full potential than phys route but it still has clear weakness. Also it depends on what you wanna do. Physical route is still better at killing high HP targets like act bosses and some super uniques.

>>7761016
Unexpectedly patrician.
Thanks for classing up the thread anon!

Give me ONE reason I shouldn't play Diablo 2.
Hard mode : don't bring up the fact I'm a necromancer trying to kill Diablo who can oneshot my summons.

>>7764649
>necromancer trying to kill Diablo who can oneshot my summons
So? Recast your clay golem after every hit and keep cursing.
The only thing that keeps me from playing right now is all the fucking sorting and comparing of the grail collection.

>>7764660
Put all my points in skeletons. I don't even have golems.
Guess I'll grind until I get clay golem and the final attack spell.

>>7764663
The clay golem is something I get as soon as it's available. You should also skill skeleton mastery.
And I always play on /players 3, so I can get Iron Maiden around the point I have to face Duriel.

>>7764695
I try to follow a build where it's one point in skill mastery for three points in raise skeleton.

>>7764698
>one point in skill mastery for three points in raise skeleton
Sounds about right, that's how I do it. Maybe I sneak in an additional mastery point every now and then.

>>7764663
Backup plan, buy a wand from the shop that has +1 clay golem +1 iron maiden and kill normal Diablo with those.

>>7764663
You don't have summon resist?

I'm gonna have to check which runes I can throw away and which one I should keep.

>>7764709
Nevermind, I screwed up. With the items, it's one skeleton mastery for two raise skeleton.
My bone boys are very beefy.

>>7764712
That's a good idea.

>>7764716
Nope! Then again, I get murdered by the balrog unique.

>>7764754
>Max D'Or
Ok now, show us the name of your skeletons.

>>7765510
They're all squelettes.

>>7765514

this is probably the wrong thread to ask,but have you played any diablo clones? any you enjoyed in particular? (Please no online only shit)

>>7765648
Titan Quest and it's three expacs. Very slow games, but super fun and the mods are amazing.

>>7765648
I liked Grim Dawn.

My clan is planning to start playing when the remaster launches. We have all played, most of them only on LAN, but I wanna bring something different. I have the most experience by far so I'm basically just picking my class last and trying to play around everyone else. I don't know if there will be changes made to overall balance but what do you guys think of these builds? I remember them at least seeming cool when I saw other people using them on pre 1.11 battle.net. I don't expect anyone to do a full appraisal but if any jump out as particularly good or bad I would appreciate a tip

>leap attack barb
>shout barb
>hammerdin
>sacrifice paladin
>spearazon
>bone spear necro
>poison necro
>chain lightning sorc
>summoner druid
>karate assassin
>

>>7765759
This, I have about 1500 hours in Grim Dawn

>>7751517
Your math is a bit off here, Ethereal damage bonuses stack multiplicatively, NOT additively.
In addition, 1.07 Ethereals could also get the "enhanced damage" mod, a mysterious mod that only appears on Ethereals 20% of the time & gives another stack of 1.5x Max Damage.
I wonder if you could get a triple Ethereal this way, and then Ebug it twice with the tempering Cube recipes.

>>7765648
I liked Throne of Darkness, Darkstone, and Revenant when they came out. Nowadays I mostly play Grim Dawn.

>>7765648
torchlight is fun but its not something you can grind for hundreds of hours

>>7766662
>My clan is planning to start playing when the remaster launches
Okay MacLeod.

>>7766662
Leap attack barb is fun. Make sure you hold alt when you use leap attack; otherwise you'll just be doing normal attacks to enemies next to you. As for how good it was... I honestly stopped using leap attack and used level 1 berserk instead. It's a slow, comparatively weak move. But it is fun.

The big benefit of the build is the max leap. In untwinked play, it's one of the most broken skills in the game. At max level, it stuns and knocks back every enemy on screen, long enough for you to leap again. In other words, you can effectively keep all enemies paralyzed as you navigate the game. Its completely insane the first time you see it.

Bone spear necro is fine. I played it in two player untwinked. Damage isn't out of this world, but its certainly respectable, and the class as a whole shits on the untwinked melee classes. The best thing is the insane bone wall/prison levels. If you've never used them before, they completely change the game, allowing you to build fortifications at will while you rain death from a distance. It feels a lot like an archer class, and I liked it a lot.

>>7766662
I recently played a poison necro twinked (PlugY). My gear wasn't top notch, but it reamed almost the entire game. Poison nova does absurd damage to everything, and you don't even have to aim. Just combine it with lower resist and you're golden.

The only problem is poison immunes. I dont think there's any great way around them; I just used the Trang Oul's fire skills, combined with lower resist. Wasnt amazing, but it worked.

Lightning sorc is the best build I've done, again, untwinked. Insane damage, teleport is broken AF, etc. 20 frozen orb, 1 cold mastery deals with lightning immunes. Even with crappy gear, players8 wasn't challenging.

>>7750846
So... this is what it's like to be full blown low-functioning. Magnificent.

>>7767857
>Lightning sorc is the best build I've done, again, untwinked. Insane damage, teleport is broken AF, etc. 20 frozen orb, 1 cold mastery deals with lightning immunes. Even with crappy gear, players8 wasn't challenging.
really?

>>7768156
Yeah, mostly played offline untwinked, so take it for what its worth. Also the only sorc build I've ran, and I've never run an untwinked assassin. I'm aware there's other builds that shit on it.

>>7766662
>shout barb
Biggest thing here is that "Rah! Rah! Roh!" ad nauseum is going to get old fast.

>hammerdin
Everyone has one for a reason.

>Bone necro
Slow but safe. Can get boring.

>Poison necro
Pretty gear dependent.
Very good with the right equipment.

>Summoner druid
Garbage by all accounts.

>>7767850
>I honestly stopped using leap attack and used level 1 berserk instead.
That was my experience with WW too.
Even with a Bloodtree and dual leach I wound up maining concentrate through most of hell.

>>7766662
the uninstall wizard is the top build and the only build worth playing

Do you guys keep the copies, of maybe inferior rolls uniques or just an extra piece?

>>7767753
I am not MacLeod.

>>7769418
Usually the only ones I really kept with most copies are Shako, Aldur's Boots,
and Magefist for other characters to use. The rest are either scrapped for the one with the best roll.

>>7761301
>The LCS
The +AR% from Bow/Crossbow skills does literally nothing. The % hit chance on Attack is your actual chance to hit.

>>7769418
I do, but I'm also a hoarder.
I try to keep it down to two copies on some of the crappier set pieces that drop non-stop.

>>7769865
AR on bow/xbow skills might be fucked but I was talking about chance to hit with strafe.
>you now remember that strafe doesn't give you any AR bonus
What a character. 400 points in dex but her attack rating is lower than my barb's.

How the fuck does a Javazon kills lilith?

I respecced to shit and back and I can't do shit against her.

Merc goes down in less than 1 second and lvl 27 valk dies in one fucking hit wtf is this shit.

>>7761802

this is turning out pretty well. Found me a unique Large Axe (thanks smithy) and things are going smoothly. Druid have some dopey perks, like having decent spawns and still being able to give a beating himself, especially in wolf form.

>>7770478

even managed to keep hireling alive when killing Andy (hardcore rules apply to mercs ofc), and the transition to dire wolves + HoW also did OK. Dunno how this all scales out in the end, but I'm dealing quite some damage considering summons and active buffs (HoW + fury + WW). So far so good, cheap items are carrying me alright

>>7770476
Charged bolt lmao

How do you call that skill in English?

>>7771606
Taunt.

Provoke works as well.

>>7771613
Make me wonder what kind of stuff the Barbarian says that even a fucking demon immediately drops his bow or staff to deck him in the schnotz.

>>7771618
'Your mother' jokes.

>>7736815
Added treasure classes to all the skeletons.

>>7736828
>killed valk in a second or two
Wew, that's how you know something is broken. I looked at what was going on and laughed.
>elemental damage is exactly the same as gloams, same damage misreference bug and all
>I think they are also carrying weapon damage somehow, like Tomb Vipers
>their damage is hyperexponential and stacking since they get more bolt duration per frame per level
Gloamish Tomb Vipers using MXL-tier skills. I nerfed them to deal around ~60 lightning damage (and no weapon damage) per cast if you have 67% resistances, it's quite a bit of damage considering how much they spam but should be tolerable.

Thanks anon, the next version is uploading now. I also learned the power of folders, so you can now use the same link repeatedly.
>https://mega.nz/folder/4SRAADiR#1yb7Y4VpVBwKwsOP36adbA

>>7743913
if this is a diablo 1 thread too you should include in the pastebin a mod guide for 1 too

>>7743527
What are Balrogs doing in Tristram? It's an Act 1 location, they're Act 3 monsters.

>>7772291
is this bait?

>>7772295
Not that anon but I'm assuming that is a mixer mod or something?

>>7772306
balrogs are act 4.
uber tristram.

>>7772313
Ha, the stone of jordanies thing.

>>7772319
no, that's diablo clone.
collect keys. combine keys for portals to collect organs. combine organs for portal to uber tristram. win hellfire torch.

>>7772328
Haaa, the ultimatest ultimate thingy.
I play offline, so I never bother with that. Plus it's not canon, since Lilith is in Diablo IV.

>>7772342
>canon
there's lore in Diablo?
and I don't know how you can say that D4 dictates D2, when the uber event was in D2 before even D3 released.

>>7772360
>there's lore in Diablo?
Yes. And a lot of it too, though it tends to contradict itself.
There's still more lore in Diablo than in Space Hack or Well of Souls.

>>7772367
Blizzard North, the people who made diablo, didn't make the lore.
Blizzard Irvine and their outsourced authors made the lore.
David Brevik talks about it in interviews sometimes. they had a general idea of what to do, and then Blizzard would send them cinematics and they'd be like wtf is this, this isn't the story. but they weren't going to be redone so they just had to roll with it.
all of it is irrelevant.

>>7772375
>it contradicts me so it's irrelevant
Nigger, lore is ALWAYS relevant, even in Bomberman or Space Invader.

>>7743508
What I especially like about this game and its engine are the lighting effects. If you throw a fireball, ice bolt, cast a spell, or whatever, you see the lighting affect the map, in different colors, blue, red, yellow, etc. It's very pretty to see. Also the dimming when it's nighttime, you're cursed, during the eclipse, etc.

>>7772435
Try to curse an enemy, and he get a red aura.
It's actually a nice way to spot them.

>>7745609
wtf why did they not make her have bare legs

>>7772830
because dey gey
i want assassin juicy thighs back i don't care if she's a chink or not

>>7745561
why did they cover her ass?

>>7743508
>links
wtf is all this shit?

>>7772838
Because we can't have nice things.

>>7772858
You should really just read "useful links" as all of this is explained in there you lazy fucking redditor.

>useful links
self explanatory
>1.15
Mod that improves uniques, sets and skills. Makes the game a bit harder. Works on 1.13/1.14
>overworked
Mod of fixed 1.13c txt files which removes/corrects many false descriptions and bugs, and adds in new descriptions for behaviours that are not described; works on any version from 1.10f to 1.14d
>muttmod
A mix of several different mods. Adds thousands of uniques, the overworked mod, bigger inventory, PoE currency items, diablo 1 monsters and some of the mod creators own additions.

Holy fuck lord have mercy. There's about a trillion of them offscreen too. At least they don't do much damage per hit.

>>7771921
Thanks for the update!

>>7773608
>two warrior women vs army of ugly fat ogres
Just like my japanese animes

Out of curiosity, anyone still play Diablo 2 online? I never played it online, I'd like to try.

if i bought diablo 2 did it come with the expansion or do i actually have to give shitzard ten wholemore dollars for that
is it worth

>>7773772
Yes.
And yes. Lot of rebalance, one more act, two new characters, and it's fully dubbed in French, unlike Battle Realms. And also, runes.

You can still play vanilla if you want.

>>7773608
what the fuck is this early early MXL tier autism mod? how often did you get stunlocked

>>7774270
muttmod. I don't know exactly how they work, but they have some way of duplicating themselves. I think from bodies. The most absurd it got was around 50% more than what is visible there, at once. Throw enough arrows at them and they die eventually as I don't think they use their own corpses to summon more as they explode on death. They were just an issue cause i'd killed a million flayers beforehand.

They also don't stunlock and they do fairly little damage overall.

Pretty cool stat for a rare. Must be some amazing combinations for high level stuff.

>>7758917
it does, even on players 5.
t. I literally do it all the time for all Paladin builds then respect at start of Hell

>>7774642
It does 18–21 damage per tick without synergies at level 20. What the fuck are you talking about? What kind of snails pace are you playing at where you consider that kind of damage to be viable enough to "walk through to hell on p5"?

>>7771921
found some 3poopy5me boots

>>7771921
Combined 7 alchemy shards and instead of getting an orb I got this instead. No idea if that was meant to happen. Seems odd though.

>>7774881
BOOBA

>>7773782
i killed den of evil then quit playing because i was tired. so i should immedeately download lord of evil and continue? or start over

>>7775073
You can convert the character to expansion and continue from where you were.

>>7775073
You can convert your character to Lord of Destruction whenever you want. It's suggested to do so ASAP, since you don't drop runes until you do.
Just be warned, there is no turning back.

Finished nightmare without spending a single skill point, or using any of my class skills. Moving on to hell.

Buriza damage was obscene on nightmare; good enough to carry me through even with just normal attack. Hell is going to be insane, though. My accuracy is pathetic even with angelics, and even buriza is almost useless for damage. Think I'm going to have to try the fire skills from Trang Ouls, and zeal from passion. I'm confident its doable, but it's getting pretty ugly.

Also, while it's definitely the worst "build" I've ever used, it's not drastically worse than my poison dagger necro.

>>7774923
It also doesn't seem to be doing much. Speaking of not doing much, all these reroll orbs? They don't seem to be working for me when they should be. I think there's only one kind of magic reroll orb that was working for me so far, but I can't remember what it was called.

>>7774648
Not him, but it adds fire damage to your attack of choice.
>without synergies at level 20
Why you wouldn't you use res fire with it?
I think we've found your problem.

>>7775305
>60 skill points investment for this
There are items that add more elemental damage than this.

>>7775305
No, dumb ass, follow the conversation chain before jumping in. See
>>7758513

"Without ever having to actually attack anything"

>>7751519
Or I'll just not play it.

>>7773623
blizzard purposely ruined the original d2 servers to force players over to the new game. so in short yes you can but the experience is such shit that the population isn't the same anymore and if you get to the point where you need to mule and farm you will have a bad time due to server issues.

Do you play this alone or with friends?

>>7775860
>friends
What's that.

>>7775942
I liked playing Diablo 2 with other people, I can't imagine playing it alone and I doubt I can find people to play it today.

>>7775860
I play it with my friends Emilio and Skeletons.

>>7776009
>Emilio and Skeletons
Sounds like 80s rock band.

Got dropped a spike thorn blade barrier with my windy druid. Would it be worth using it to stack with spirit of the barbs? What should I put in the socket?

>>7776318
Sell it to Akara and wear a Spirit shield or something.

>>7776318
It caps out at 136 ATD. In comparison, the average Hell monster has 6000 life. To put things further into perspective, consider that a 6000 life monster regenerates 73 life per second. When you factor in blocking and missing, you'll likely not even be scratching through regeneration, let alone killing anything. If Blizzard wasn't retarded, they would have multiplied ATD damage by 5x across the board after they buffed enemy life 5x.

Please help. I am lost.
Should I bother with chipped gems? What about runes? I have a fuckload of eths runes, but I don't know which one I'm meant to look for, and all the runeword seem to be very late game.

>>7776651
Get plugy or gomule. Standard way I keep my stash for runes/gems is like this pic but...

>Should I bother with chipped gems?
Chipped gems are useful to keep as they are used for upgrading some runes as well as recharging and repairing expensive items.

>What about runes?
I keep 10 of each until Fal, then I keep everything I drop after that. I also keep an two entire 10x10 pages of Ort and Ral runes as they're useful for repairing and recharging as well.

>>7776787
Oh and I keep all flawless, too.

>>7776651
and if you're gonna be a fag and cry about not wanting plugy or gomule yet, then it's up to you to figure out what runewords you want and thus what runes to keep.

>just cheat bro

>>7776880
everyone used mules, anon. It's no different.

>>7776880
>gomule
>cheating
???

I will never find an SoJ. Most I've found is Bul Kathos Ring. Fuck.

>>7776787
Is there no other way than to mod the game? I really want to beat it vanilla, but it sounds like it's considered to be a challenge nowaday.

>>7776942
No other way to what? What is it you want? It's up to you to decided what you want to keep in vanilla.

>>7776936
1 in 1500 from nightmare andariel. Decently geared sorc could net you an SoJ in a day. The problem isn't it being rare, the problem is you.

>>7776946
Deal with gems and runes. I have no idea if I should bother with runes so far, or what runes are good.
It's be easier if I had an idea of their rarity, but other than going to the library and printing a list of runewords, I don't see how I can

>>7776950
>Deal with gems
Have you needed a single gem so far? At all? Not 'used', but 'needed'?

>I have no idea if I should bother with runes so far
Have you made any runewords at all? How far are you into the game?

>or what runes are good.
They're all good, depending on what you want to do.

>It's be easier if I had an idea of their rarity
Just look at them. You say you've got a lot of Eth, right? Then why keep picking more of them up if they're so easy to drop?


> but other than going to the library and printing a list of runewords, I don't see how I can
>printing a webpage
>in the year of our lord 2021
You can't open the internet in the background and just alt+tab? Can you not 4chan and diablo at the same time? Not even on your phone?

I'll help you out. Keep only topaz gems, upgrade them when you can. Use them to socket into gear for magic finding. If you want. If you don't want to bother magic finding, then don't bother keeping any gems. The other types are not necessary at the moment.

Keep one of any rune that drops. Look at a list of runewords. Use the three braincells God gave you to think about your build and go through and find some that you want to make that work with the build. If you think they're too hard to make, then don't bother keeping any runes and just forget about them altogether.

You don't NEED gems or runes to beat the game, they just give you more options. We can't spoonfeed you this, anon. There's no handy cheat sheet to look at. This is a game about choices, if we make them for you, you might as well not bother.

We could give some runeword suggestions, if you tell us what your build is, but that's us playing your game, not you.

Muttmod really turns into 'Valkyrie vs the world' toward the end of Hell mode. I'm basically moral support at this point. I can't even imagine the hell that would be playing a melee class.

The merc was a complete write off three acts ago. Even with damage reduction gear, max res and holy freeze, it just felt like throwing him into a blender the moment you leave town.

Looking forward to starting a zeal pally once the zon is done.

>>7777082
Also, this wind looking arrow that the goat archers shoot is the best looking skill in the whole game. It's fucking amazing and a damn shame it's just used by them.

>>7776994
low functioning autism

Waifu squad armour.

>>7777457
Does it summon an assassin or an amazon?

>>7777587
Assassin.

>>7777597
>>7777457
>>7777082
This armour has made me rethink my pally choice. I think I'll now go with a barb and use shouts to get the most out of this chest piece.

Suck my dick, muttmod...and I only rage quit 5 times through hell. EZ.

>>7777907
Couldn't drop anything better than this the entire time and no Pul to up it either, despite getting 4 different, higher, runes.

>>7777909
Found some nice rares, though. Amp wand is dope.

This is so far my favourite mod I've ever played. Thanks so much for making this monstrosity, anon. It's fantastic.

>>7776994
>Have you needed a single gem so far? At all? Not 'used', but 'needed'?
No. I used a couple of them, but mostly to get more health at a difficult moment.

>Have you made any runewords at all? How far are you into the game?
No. I'm at the Chaos Sanctuary, having difficult clearing the place before touching the seal.
Necro level 28 if it helps. Through I assume I'll have similar issues on my barbarian.

>They're all good, depending on what you want to do.
Oh, okay. That simplify things a bit.

>You say you've got a lot of Eth, right? Then why keep picking more of them up if they're so easy to drop?
Because I'm only realizing now that I have around 7-8 of them and that maybe I shouldn't bother picking up more.

>You can't open the internet in the background and just alt+tab?
Tried that, Diablo 2 seem to hate when I alt-tab it. My PC can run Dark Souls no problem, but Diablo 2 stutters after I alt+tab it.

>Keep only topaz gems, upgrade them when you can
>Keep one of any rune that drops. Look at a list of runewords.
Okay, I'll stick to that.

>You don't NEED gems or runes to beat the game, they just give you more options
Yeah, but I want to. Last time I played that game, it was years ago, and I ended up with a bonespear necro. I felt more like a sorcerer than a necro. Now I'm going for a squelette build, and I really want to mess with runes because I never used any gem/runes first time I played that game.

>>7778121
>Tried that, Diablo 2 seem to hate when I alt-tab it.
You can run the game in a window. Make a shortcut and add ' -w' to the target line.

>>7778121
>Link related:
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Runewords

To get you started, here are some lower level, easier to find, and very helpful words:

>Normal

Stealth - Great armor for quite a while. Run speed, FCR, FHR

Malice - Makes a decent melee weapon for yourself or the merc. Open wounds

Steel - Again, good melee weapon. Attack speed and open wounds

Ancient's Pledge - Good shield res. You'll get these runes from a quest in Act 5

Nadir - Helm. Mana per kill, cloak of shadows charges

Zephyr - Bow only. Can be good for an act 1 merc

>>7778481
>Makes a decent melee weapon for yourself or the merc
Ooooooh, yeah, the merc has his own equipement in diablo 2. I somehow completely forgot that. I picked the one with the HP regeneration aura, I figured it'd go well with my squelettes spawn.

Thanks homie.

>>7778121
>Nightmare

Rhyme - Shield. Cannot be frozen, magic find, decent res

Lore - Helm. Mana per kill, +skills

White - Best in slot wand for a lot of necros. Try to find a base with good bonuses to your main skills

Black - Clubs, hammers, maces. Crushing blow, attack speed. Knockback can be annoying, but it's good for bosses

Strength - Melee weapons. Crushing blow, mana per kill, life steel

>>7778483
No sweat man, happy to help.

Just remember you need the exact number of sockets for a word, and the runes in the correct order.
Also make sure you're using an item with gray text on the name, or you'll brick the word.
Magic (watch out for Mechanic's prefix), Rare, Set, and Unique items won't work for this.
You'll get the effects from the base runes, but not the combined effects of the words.

I wish Diablo 2 saved all my prnt screen screenshots, because holy moly, I replaced a rare bardiche by that Malice pike and the damage skyrockeeted from 20-180 poison to fucking 60-210.
Hahahaha man, that's making a hole in my rune stacks, but it turns out I have enough runes to make Malice, and right now, I have my eyes out for a Stealth armor. Either for me or for Amir over there.

Oh.
Two discoveries :
>all screenshots are saved in the game's folder
>it wasn't 20-180 but 39-136

My merc hits harder than me now.
I doubt it'll help against Diablo, but it should make the Chaos Sanctuary easier.

Out of curiosity, is reincarnation or whatever the Necro's ultimate skill actually good? I was under the impression it was excellent, but the necro build I took inspiration from kinda looks down on it.

>>7778568
It's poop because blizzard increased monster hp by over 9000 times in 1.10, and didn't compensate nearly enough for Revive and Skeleton Mage damage. The only thing it's good for is raising the fat ogre type enemies and dropping them on bosses, because they have crushing blow.

>>7778586
Well, fuck. It seemed fun in 1.0, but only if you revive a strong enemy.

>>7778586
Nah, revives are excellent. At max levels, they are comparable to skeletons (with good revives, like blunderbores and scarabs and blood lords, you'll find them to be far stronger than skeletons). At super +levels with top tier gear, they are still okay since you can teleport around and no longer have to worry about them competing with your skeletons. You could easily beat the game using revives over skeletons, but I'd shoot myself before considering skeleton mages over skeletons.

>need 2 sockets for Stealth armor
>find an armor with 3
>find another with 1
Mmmm...

>>7778724
You can shop for low level gear with sockets from merchants in Acts 1 and 2 of normal.
If you don't find what you need, just leave town and come back to reset their inventories.

>>7778741
Yeah, but the defense values are miserable. There's no meaning in pimping a leather armor, is there?

>just leave town and come back
Ha, I can do that? I've been logging out and coming back in. Also, do the necro's heads count as shields?

>>7778751
Early on, you're going to be more interested in getting essential mods on items than the base defense.
For any caster class you really need faster cast rate and run speed.
Melees need to prioritize hit recovery and attack speed, and dual leech if you can get it.

>do the necro's heads count as shields?
Yes. Two sockets max though.
You'll need a real shield for shield runewords other than Rhyme.

>>7778765
>Early on, you're going to be more interested in getting essential mods on items than the base defense.
I'm almost at Diablo. I don't think I'm "early". Except for Baal's bitchy tantrum, the game is essentially over.

>Melees need to prioritize hit recovery and attack speed, and dual leech if you can get it.
Mmm. So keep any tournament armor I find for my merc.

>Yes. Two sockets max though.
It's fine, it's giving me nice golem mastery buffs, I don't want to replace it yet.
That wand gives +3 revive squelettes, though, so I'm likely never replacing it.

Good lord, it's terrifying.

Okay, that worked.
A pox on bodies who disappear, I needed three full stacks to really damage Diablo. And fuck that lightning shit.

This thread really got me interested in playing again. Can't access mega at work to know what those links are about so I will ask, what are some mods or whatever you people use to play diablo 2 today? If I want to play at work and also access the same save at home (and even invite someone to play), how is the best way to achieve this? I just used to play on LAN many years ago so I'm not really informed.

>>7778856
I am playing VANILLA, like a fucking CHAD

>>7778717
Even with maxed skeleton mastery revives do nowhere near as much damage as skeletons. Probably not even one third or fourth. Most of the monsters that do some damage are big and clunky and leave no surround area around the target for other revives, which only further decreases their damage output when compared to smaller skeletons. They are also under timer, even often disappear before they time runs out and also have extremely shitty AI. You need teleport to make them effective. You probably could beat the game with revives but it would be extremely tedious.
This dude >>7778586 is right. Only good for their special abilities but you need teleport to stack them. Also only really worth it against big targets like act bosses.
>>7778823
You might want to use clay golem. The slow is nice and it is by far the best golem for general use unless you can make nice iron golem. Fire golem is shit.

>>7778892
But fire golem has 4x the life of the clay golem.

>>7778895
It's all about the slow effect from clay + decrepify on bosses. Baal sometimes can't even attack when decrep'd and slowed. And you can always summon a new clay golem, they're cheap.

>>7778918
Haaa, yes. That makes sense. I don't use decrepify, though, I use the one that makes them take more damage. Open Wounds or whatever.
+100% damage, baby.

>>7778895
Maybe he does but otherwise he does nothing but stand there and do some small amount of damage.

Clay golem has that awesome slow which is extra good against bosses. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but only (?) clay golem automatically draws aggro when summoned. You can endlessly summon clay golem next to Diablo and he will always target it instead of you or your mercenary. He will obviously kill it in one or two hits but you can just summon another one.

>>7778919
Amp Damage is definitely the main curse to use for mobs, but decrep still does 50% more damage in addition to the slow. Using amp on Hell bosses is asking to get your squelettes melted.

>>7779332
>Using amp on Hell bosses is asking to get your squelettes melted
That's pretty much what happened with Diablo, so I had to redo my stack every time.
To be honest, the problem is that the game is rather vague on what it does. And, even the French translation is awful. Like the runeword I gave my merc gives monsters -100 defense per hit, but in French, it's said in such a way that you understand that YOUR defense get lowered.

>>7778859
I will do the same, what's the solution for saving the same game in different computers?

>>7779467
I -think- you can use the same CD Key. As long as you don't play on the same computers at once, but I'm honestly not sure.
Back then, games only checked the CD Key when you installed the game, so you could use any CD key at will, but now, I'm not sure.

>>7779497
Like I said before, I have many years without playing so I don't remember correctly. Could I set up an online game at home and use that IP to log in from any computer I want? Or that just worked for LAN?

>>7779515
I'm afraid I can't help you more than that. I don't even understand your question, so I'll let someone else answer.
Sorry Anon, but as a wise man once said : "pretending that you know what you're talking about when you don't know crap doesn't do anyone any favour, faggot".

>Diablo 2 lets you disable the hardcoded added kick damage formula and substitute with flat damage
>realize that I can make a formula that scales the flat damage in such a way that is identical to the kick damage, thereby softcoding it
>every formula I make slightly deviates
>get pissed off, delete everything, make a formula which shouldn't work as the basic form to be modified
>it works perfectly
>compare my formula versus Diablo 2's system
>they absolutely should deviate
>they match due to hidden truncation/rounding magic
Thank god it's over, now kicking will no longer be garbage to mod with. Synergies on Dragon Flight/Dragon Talon and changed str/dex flat damage scaling are now possibilities.

>>7779515
That won't work unless you are using Hamachi or some such program.

>>7771921
These guys are 1 shotting me somehow. Could be reflect, hard to tell. Do they roll with randomized gear? If so then I guess that's fine. Just bad luck.

>>7781261
Hmmm, actually I think it might be a high level holy freeze/shock aura.

>>7781261
>somehow
Maybe because you only have 263 HP in Act IV?

>>7781412
>normal difficulty
263 hp is fine for act IV. I had above 75 res in everything but poison, 20% damage reduction and 12 flat damage reduction.

Nothing else in the entire act including DIABLO was doing more than 15% of my health in a hit. The entire diablo lightning hose couldn't even drop me below 75%.

>>7781261
They roll with randomized auras. You probably got oneshot by Thorns, Might or Fanaticism. It also really doesn't help that these guys naturally hit super hard. And guess what? They are even worse on NM and I imagine they are yet even worse on Hell.

>>7781489
This is clearly something like what I saw here >>7781275
Skip to 4:40. The shock guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlW53GBd0vM

Every time now has been for sure with their holy shock and possibly once with freeze. I didn't even attack him. Sure I can accept getting 1 hit by like fanat or thorns, that's manageable, but just dying by being near the guy seems a bit much of a wall.

Offline characters that depend on damage from gear instead of from skill points get more and more fucked the longer the game goes on.

>>7781556
Yup. That's why they're the most fun. Barbs and Amazons, mostly.

Thanks for the feedback, this version should fix a lot of the scaling issues. When I added the base forms, I only checked their normal values, but they were given values on par with Ubers for some reason in NM/Hell, in some cases even higher.
>nerfed Crepuscular Thorns, now has 10 ATD per level and a constant 1% damage reflection
>Crepuscular Soldiers have a 15/25/35% chance of gaining a level 1 aura, instead of a 15/50/100% chance of gaining a level 1/25/35 aura
>Crepuscular Freeze/Shock deal vanilla damage instead of 256x vanilla (lol)
>life of Succubi, Hell Knights, Vipers, Storm Demons, Magma Demons, Arachnons, Black Spiders and Demon Skeletons are nerfed
>damage of Hell Knights and Succubi are nerfed
This should make things more reasonable. It's uploading now, should be up in a few minutes.
>https://mega.nz/folder/4SRAADiR#1yb7Y4VpVBwKwsOP36adbA

>>7781489
>>7781543
>>7781543
Thanks, all of these should be relatively fixed now.

>>7781585
>256x
That explains the whole 'get 1 shot with 80% light res by a holy shock tick' thing. Jesus Christ.

Thanks for your hard work anon. I really appreciate it.

>>7781585
>life of Succubi
Oh thank fuck. Chasing those champ/boss variants across the entire planet while slowly whittling their HP down wasn't particularly enjoyable.

>>7781585
Thanks.

>>7743508
Found an SoJ thanks andy
Now I need another one

Cleared act 1 hell without having spent any skill points or used any of my class skills.

Currently dual wielding oath and passion and relying on level 4 zeal as my main skill. It's pretty bad, but still feels useable. Even with enchant from demon limb, I'm only keeping accuracy up the angelics. My resists are terrible even with an inventory stuffed with resist charms, so I think at some point I'm going to have to rely in fade from treachery a lot more than I am.

It's been a pretty fun experiment. Made me appreciate the angelics a lot more, and it's definitely reduced my belief in the importance of shields. Also made me laugh at how absolutely god awful most charged items are. Even when you have no skills, almost none of them are worth using.

Finally...anti-social power level maximum has been reached. Fuck other people.

>>7781585
Sewers level 3. Only other monster type I saw were the regular red skeletons.

>>7783980
You mean like the other people who made the game you're enjoying while you pretend to be an edgy outcast on a virgin's image board?

>>7784147
It was a joke, anon. Don't take everything so seriously.

>>7784152
Take your own advice

>>7784154
>n-no you
okay

Why didn't they give summons the same permanance as the mercenary? Recently returned to the game and have been levelling a necro for a week now and am getting annoyed with half the group suddenly despawing because I got too far away. Especially the iron golem. Why are they different? Seems like it'd be a much better design choice to have them all behave like the mercenary.

>>7781412
I have 199 HP in Act V.

>receive quest to find Anya
>Nilhatak immediately goes missing

>>7775821
Well, fuck.

At least Deckard Cain ended in Heaven.
Not really a consolation but I'll take what I can.

Also, I pity the people who played that game at launch and had no way to know the runewords.
>hurr durr put these runes in the correct order on a shield
>gives Tal, Ort and Ral
>have fun

>>7784861
I actually guessed one on my own when I was a kid. Zephyr, I think. Felt like a fucking god.

>>7784867
Congrats.

I'm starting an Assassin and watching MrLlama do it, he's so fucking fast, I'm just finishing den of evil and it feels like he's already rescued cain

>>7784913
He knows the game in and out.
Protip : if you try to figure out how to build something while competing with your engineer friend, he'll likely have it finished before you're even done figuring out plumbing.

>>7784916
Yeah, I'll just follow his guide through Normal and figure my own out Nightmare onwards.
It's neat that he said go Leaf because I was lost about which weapon to use.

>>7784136
>Only other monster type I saw were the regular red skeletons
Both archers and swords, or just one type? Each should take up a unit slot and there are a max of 3 unit types on Sewers 3, so it'll help me eliminate possibilities.

Going through nightmare chaos sanctuary in the muttmod as a melee was one of the best experiences I've ever had in D2 as a whole. Somehow my build lined up perfectly with the difficulty of the monsters in the area, so it wasn't ever too easy or too hard. Every fight took actual concentration to get through, but never kicked me in the teeth. The combination of the aura knights, succubi and the regular knights was fantastic to play against.

Playing around their auras, curses, slows, etc etc while running in and out. 10/10.

If I could give one recommendation though, muttmod anon, make the act bosses more difficult. With the game being harder overall, it's kind of a joke whenever you get to diablo or meph.

>>7785007
Sorry man, I don't recall which. I'll run back to the area now and see if I can trigger it again.

>>7785009
>>7785008
Took a fair few attempts. All I saw this time were the regular shield bearing ones.

>>7785031
meant for >>7785007

>>7785031
Could you upload your save file? I'm having troubles replicating this crash.

>>7785056
Here. https://files.catbox.moe/jyx3q2.7z

I've had trouble getting it to occur more than the twice I have myself. Had the skelies spawn with everything else there at least three times.

>>7784147
>>7784154
NTA, but fuck off retard

>I'll try Diablo 1
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yul_AGm-7GI
>nope

>>7785070
For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrK90XJfqRs

Pure nostalgia. Moment I hear it I want to start playing.

>>7785058
>>7785056
Still haven't had this occur again after the second time despite running for an hour now. Must have been quite the lucky to encounter this on my first time through.

>>7785138
I've only been able to get it to happen once. I noticed the Shadow Master is doing some weird animations too that she shouldn't be doing, so maybe she is involved somehow. Unfortunately, Diablo 2 has the clunkiest animation system ever devised, so it's going to be difficult to find the exact cause. All we know thus far is that at least one of the Burning Dead members (of which there are three) is causing a crash. And this crash may or may not be limited to only Burning Dead, or perhaps also all the other skeletons.

Given how rare it is, you should give up on testing it (if you haven't already). I'll have to come up with some better ways of testing animation errors in general to minimize the amount of time it takes to bug test. Thanks for helping out.

>>7785241
Yeah all good. I actually ended up with over 30 set and uniques I didn't have, so it was time well spent. It seems rare enough of a crash that I wouldn't really worry about it myself.

I'll remember to keep an eye out though whenever I run through the area.

>>7785241
Have you played through your mod? I think at least one such playthrough may help you with bugfixing and balancing the mod.

>>7751517
did any of these ever spawn on battle.net? shit would be worth like 10 grand

>>7748713
>Xtimus
remember this faggot from d2jsp. he was always such a fag.

>>7786470
They'd be stupidly rare at this point. I doubt any exist these days.

>>7788578
>any
*many

https://github.com/whipowill/d2-plugy-qol

What's Included

>PlugY - adds shared stash, infinite respec, all runewords.
>BaseMod - removes singleplayer FPS cap, adds auto gold pickup.
>LinearMF - removes diminishing returns on magic find.
>FontFix - makes 5s look like 5s instead of 6s.
>NoIntro - skip the intro videos when you boot the game.
>KeepEquip - keep your equipment when you die.
>MapHack - shows the entire map w/ monsters and chests.
>LootFilter - filters items and get notified about drops.
>MultiRes - adds widescreen resolutions to the game.
>DDraw - improves video framerate, upscales graphics.

Custom Changes

>Keys stack to 24
>Scrolls stack to 48
>Quivers stack to 480
>Druid

>Shapeshifting duration increased
>Can summon all beasts at same time

>Magic and rare quivers are possible
>Arrows and bolts are infinite

>Orb of Corruption - add sockets to a unique or set item
>Orb of Transmutation - reforge a unique item to/from being Ethereal

>Act 1 - Blessed Aim
>Act 3 - Meditation
>Act 5 - Might

>Countess always drops 3 runes
>Rune upgrades no longer require gems
>Deckard Cain relocated in Act 5 town

>>7788673
>>7788673

>>7781585
Well that's different. Invisi-axe.

>>7781585
Fucks sake. Maybe it is something to do with the assassin. Though it's also a bit strange it's happened with skeletons on screen again.

This time cold plains. Also saw gargantuan beasts.

>>7743905
>Anyone else try to play Diablo 1?
I've tried a few runs, but I only am interested for like 30 minutes. The Butcher killed me when I got there and I wasn't sure if I just need to grind forever or if I suck. Is there more to it than "click on enemy"?

>play zealot
>fun
>get to Hell
>fun stops
Everything is so slow bros... Melee is hell and act 3 sucks