/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7753919
Gradius and Castlevania(up to and not including SotN).

Everything Konami is inherently anti-kino and absolutely soulless.

Gradius Gaiden

most of them, really

>>7753925
Filtered.

>>7753925
i'd take konami over capcom any day

>>7753925
Mate, every single big Japanese dev was the king among the kings back in 8/16-bit era. They were almost all killed by the shift to 3D games. Hudson being the greatest example of it. No wonder 8 and 16 bit era have the best consoles.

Contra Hard Corps

Axelay, one the most kino games on the SNES

Super C. Was going to say CV3 but then Alucard and Stage 7-05 a.k.a several minutes of being bored watching blocks fall exists.

Picrel.
>>7753983
Like Gradius 3, it shows potential, but far too much slowdowns. I wish it had been a Mega Drive game instead.

I remember as a kid when Super Castlevania IV came out and it being one of the first SNES games I played, I was blown away by the graphics and moody music, the whole presentation and atmosphere.

It's art design is truly a low-key master class in pure kino ambiance.

>>7754031
Axelay wouldn't work on MD. It would be a completely different game.

>>7753925
I would like to argue.

>>7754039
It could. Axelay doesn't use any mode 7, it's just a fancy parallax scrolling effect on the vertical stages which the MD is perfectly capable of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMz1T0uTzLI

Castlevania 3, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, DDR Extreme, Contra 3
Man, Konami used to be so good. I want to go back, I can't take living in current times anymore.

>>7754070
Those transparency effects though, yes I know there is dithering+composite but that trick only works on bigger surfaces and not smaller sprites with details.

The biggest issue I have with Axley on the SNES though is the constant flickering sprites, I though the cart was fucked up the first time and rented it. There is a SA-1 patch out now though that removes most slowdown and the flickering, put it on your flash cart and ply it on a CRT for pure kino.

>thread uses /tv/ meme word
>is complete garbage
Checks out.

>>7754157
that's not very kino of you

>>7754172
I’ve recently come to realize that it’s actually /tv/ posters that taint every board they touch, not /pol/.

>>7754157
what did he mean by this?

>>7754176
It's everyone that keeps cross-posting memes among boards.

>>7754031
>I wish it had been a Mega Drive game instead.
The Megacoper strikes again.

>>7754293
Funny how they say MD is superior but every other snes game it's like 'I wish it had been a Mega Driver game instead".

>>7754293
>Megacoper

>>7754007
Just take the other path

>>7753925
Pretty much. They have the audacity of shitting out literally the same game in every iteration of the Castlevania franchise and people eat that shit up.

>>7754403
*blocks your path*

>>7754007
CV3 is great and you can take another path.

>>7754403
>same game in every iteration of the Castlevania
>I never played any Castlevania

@7753925

>>7754330
That's because those games show potential, but ultimately the flawed SNES hardware cannot pull them off, such as Axelay, Gradius 3, Contra 3, Parodius, Sparkster...

>>7754479
Sounds like Konami just suck at developing games.

>>7754484
No, their Mega Drive and arcade output was phenomenal in that era. The SNES is just too limited of a machine to properly pull off Konami's games.

>>7754479
What was the problem with Contra 3? I mean, because of the SNES hardware, not about the MD being superior(since they are different games, anyway). As for Sparkster, wasn't it released on MD too?

>>7754505
SNES is the JRPG machine of the 16bits. Every other genre have better games on MD and PC-Engine.

>>7754505
Konami's Genesis games are low effort crap outside of Hard Corps and Rocket Knight. RKA has slowdown though. Totally would have been better on the SNES.

>>7754532
>RKA has slowdown though.
It's doing a lot.
>Totally would have been better on the SNES.
LMAO. If it slows down this much on the Mega Drive (which, need I remind you, is a whole 3x faster than the SNES), imagine the constant state of slow motion the SNES would be in attempting this game. It would play like a tar pit.

>>7754561
>It's doing a lot.
Literally it's ok when Sega does it.

>>7754570
The SNES runs at only 1/3rd the speed of the Mega Drive, and the PC Engine, and hell, even the Amiga. You're not making any kind of argument that it could have possibly done RKA any better than the Mega Drive. Gradius 3 literally slows down when you fire your weapon, the slowdowns are unfathomably worse in that game as compared to RKA.

>>7754583
>and hell, even the Amiga
Are you trying to undermine your own argument?

>>7754587
He can't help himself.

>>7753919

Kino means faggotry

>>7754587
>>7754598
The Amiga is a piece of shit and it runs 3x faster than the SNES. What does that say about the SNES?

>>7753919
parodius series

Sexy Parodius, Metal Gear Solid, Symphony of the Night, Silent Hill 2, and Castlevania 4.

There you played everything good they ever made.

>>7754601
This game is god tier but it isn't made by Konami. It was a passion project that Nintendo rejected publishing at the last minute.

Sexy Parodius

Chi no rondo, pic related

>>7755571
Not even the best Castlevania game, which is Super Castlevania Bros.

>>7753919
i like this game alot

>>7753919
>only 2 comments mentioning metal gear
>everyone else is talking about "muh castlevania"
i am highly disappointed, shame on /vr/

>>7754561
Rocket Knight would have been a lot better on SNES. It's a shame

>>7754601
isn't this a LucasArts game?

>>7754570
RKA looks like Neo Geo graphics

>>7754601
The fucking christ lucasarts why couldn't you make a movie or a cartoon about the world in that game, the art is better than almost all japanese stuff at the time outside of nue, and irem. I would love to see it animated or live acted. It would sell well too given how the US market loved explodie action movies
>>7755880
Yep
>>7755830
konami didn't make metal gear

>>7755918
>konami didn't make metal gear
?

>>7755643
that's another LucasArts game like >>7754601
Konami just Published it

>>7755918
>konami didn't make metal gear
do me a favor, open up this link, read the first sentence and tell me what it says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear

>>7755918
I loved the different robots, and for me it was the best multiplayer experience I had on the SNES by a longshot.
Also I knew it wasn't developed by Konami I thought we were counting games they publshed too, my bad.

>>7754426
>>7754379
Not the point. The fact it exists is a bad thing.

>>7755830
Metal gear games are fucking trash and Kojima ruined based classic Konami by turning them into "the Metal Gear Company" before abandoning videogames entirely.

>>7753919
Gradius 5 for sure

>>7756360
big shmup fan, love playing that one to relax for some mindless fun -- and I cant believe no one mentioned it yet

>>7756369
Probably because Trashure developed it and Gradius 1, 2, 3 (not the cucked SNES port), 4, and Gaiden as well as Nemesis 1, 2 (and the remake on the Sharp X68000), and 3 are all better than V.

>>7756392
Kys amigacuck

>>7756392
no idea what you're on about, gradius v blows those out of water

>>7753919
>>7753925
>>7754484
>>7754532
>>7755918
>>7756326

>>7756392
>Whataboutism

>>7753919
Silent Hill 3 and 4 are their best work

>>7753983
Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSffwTC8_QE

Konami had very good composers back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEvOmAimLBI

>>7754601
Poor man's Assualt Suits Valken. Shitty game and shitty meme developer.

>>7753919
Absolute master game developers, up there with Capcom, Namco and Nintendo.
Contra (Nes)
Super C (Nes)
Castlevania lll
Metal Gear: Solid Snake
MGS 3 Subsistence
Snatcher
Rondo of Blood
Axelay
Top Gun 2

>>7757270
Not as shitty as your comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_wfW4EtsdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBrfxmUJXdA

>>7756404
hes right, only peop;le who prefer V are no skill wankstains who want gradfus without the gradius, 1hr loop, unskippable cutscenes? its shit 4 is the best gradius, most balanced, no impossible recovery, dynamic rank, fantastic game, then probably gaiden.

>>7757284
Stay mad lucascuck, Metal Warriors died on arrival and nobody cared, not even Konami, lolololol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCkIPPCevfs

>>7757295
>nooo stop posting thing that is similar but different to thing I like nooooo

>>7757295
>not even Konami
It’s not a Konami game, they just distributed it, the fact that you’re mad about the mention of it is pretty funny though
I bet you hate gun hazard too

>>7757285
(you) <---
chill, it's just games
plus you're wrong V does everything better than 1-4. You'd know that if you played shmups.

>1 hour loop
Same as 3, which is better than 4.

>>7757284
Renting this game from blockbuster, popping it in then watching this cutscene for the first time really blew my mind.

>>7757335
I got a shock seeing how much CIB is going for

>>7757295
Fuck this version of Leynos looks shit as fuck, damn.

>>7757362
Stop swearing so much it's childish

>>7757423
fuck this fuck shit comment damn
also
>childish
>in a hobby made for kids

>>7757435
you need better standards and self-esteem

>>7757423
>childish
>shitty game and shitty meme developer
>saying lucascuck
Wow anon

>>7757314
>Same as 3, which is better than 4.
yeah, g5 is more like 1.5-2 hours + unskippable cutscenes, way too long for a shmup. it also did other gay things like make the hitbox a 1v1 dot, give you the option to turn off checkpoints, and got rid of many iconic settings and enemies which were gradius series staples.

>>7757585
Shut up amigatranny.

>>7753925
*hard corps and rocket knight adventures block your path*

>>7753925
Konami was never good.

>>7757278
>master game developers
Lmao

>>7754689
Wrong

>>7754059
Where is this from, that looks amazing.

>>7760561
I think it might be Policenauts, but I haven't gotten around to actually playing it so I don't know why I'm giving you a guess.