/vr/ - Retro Games

A VCR?

>>7752107
Yes, zoomiekins. A VCR.

>>7752097
> Slap Bass 1
Literally Seinfeld

Based OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYx3JbitCAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrOBA4KyEY

Assuming this is MT32 - it is well emulated with Scumm and dosbox games. And it sounds really gorgeous, I was blown away by mt32 music in Simon the Sorcerer

>>7752123
>well-emulated
Not super well, sadly.

>>7752123
It's an SC-88 Pro

>>7752097
Imagine not using a real synthesizer and relying on a silly MIDI box :^)

>>7752145
It’s pretty well emulated anon and has been for a while. The only reason it doesn’t sound exactly the same is to better match just how many different implementations there were of the same sound font. You could load up the exact same sound font in anything from Windows 98 to 10 if you’d like and it sounds exactly the same. Provided your chipset supports that.

>>7752178
>sound font
That's not how the Sound Canvas machines worked though. It's impossible to emulate perfectly, though it does come close.

Shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8vojpABBE
Not shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uXzCKghRUA

Shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogq8FFJIpg0
Not shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzNJaq5_Imk

Shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIlYj8a244
Not shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2aW4QNYbT4

Shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJXqaE0tdo
Not shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxYpB9y7P0A

Shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_btEsi8BY
Not shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXa93HwHOS8

>>7752097
They were studio equipment and expensive as hell for one. Not gonna deny they sound awesome tho

https://youtu.be/Atu2VfCl6U4

>>7752097
*blocks your path*

>>7752269
Actually they were made for computer bedroom music making and games, and weren't terribly pricey.

>CRTfags and Audiophile combined

That's gonna be a yikes from me senpai

>>7752114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVldNNHQWVw
This is now a Jonathan Wolff appreciation thread

imagine using a computer without decent FM synth

>>7752634
s.m.h. my head

>>7752097
Mine randomly stopped working but I'm not sure if it's the Sound Card, Cable, or unit itself. It basically just sits there doing nothing like it's not getting anything, yet as far as the computer is concerned it's connected and trying to send data.

>>7752097
>using an obsolescent piece of shit
Maybe you shoulda shelled out $1800 on an INTEGRA-7 and enjoy the crisp yet believable sounds of Roland's SUPERNATURAL™ acoustic and synth modeling technology.

>>7752490
>NO YOU GOTTA CONSOOM

>>7752114
Nah, Seinfeld's slap bass is from the Korg M1.

>>7752178
>It’s pretty well emulated anon and has been for a while.

Anyone who owned those soundcards can tell you that their emulation is dodgy at best, horse shit at worst. Even the OPL2 emulation has some instruments broken in certain games, Dune for example.

>>7752470
SCVA's good, but it's missing some patches from the original hardware modules.

>>7752705
replace caps

>>7752759
I don't think decades old obsolete hardware that only dedicated hobbyists care about and can only be bought second hand counts as "consooming."

>>7752778
In the SC-88?

>>7752097
https://streamable.com/0gta2a
https://streamable.com/mmt99j

>>7752123
>assuming i can't read

>>7752123
>>7752178
>>7752179
>>7752773
How's Rolands own emulation Sound Canvas VA anyway?

>>7752743
Not authentic to the GM sound of the days of yore. Anyway I have a large collection of synthesizers, my EX5R can go into a GM/GS mode.

>>7752784
If you're a non-American you can't find any of this shit so out of spite you call it all consooooming.

Heck I don't think Europeans have room in their "flats" for a Sound Canvas module anyway. It'd take up half the room.

>>7752945
>Heck I don't think Europeans have room in their "flats" for a Sound Canvas module anyway. It'd take up half the room.
And let's not even get into the loicences they'd need, lol.

>>7752123
>op's image clearly shows an sc-88 pro
>Assuming this is MT32

>>7752634
Imagine using a computer without decent games…

It can sound really incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv8KNENrdH8&list=PLQMKBH1kWzZCQjXu-tsMlBDgUsNGg26BP&index=2

>>7752179
weren't sound canvas machines PCM playback based? shouldn't they be pretty easy to get close, as long as you can get hold of the samples? (or is that the problem)
there's emulating the resampling methods too, but they've emulated the emu-2 and old akai samplers methods in the music production world so it can't be that hard right?

>there will never be anything like MT32-Pi for the 55 or 88

>>7753458
There will be. But you will never be a real girl.

>>7752097
>Imagine playing vintage PC games

>>7752097
I honestly can’t imagine playing vintage PC games with this.
I mean why even bother.

>>7752097
Imagine playing GBA games without this bad boy
Haha

PSA: you can setup your PC to have both Mt32 and SC-55 with VMSynth and Munt
also you can set VMSynth to play TTS-1 synthetizer if you find it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=279hwifL1P0

>>7754030
>unaccurate emulation
No thanks, I'd rather bite the bullet and get those two bad boys.

>>7752945
We have small cars, not small houses.

>7754078
>trolling this hard

Go back to /v/ and bunkerchan where you belong, your thread is weak.

>>7754107

>>7753416
Were they? Why ask questions? Are you or aren’t you sure of your knowledge? Don’t you find this type of post insufferable?

>>7753614
Because the soundtracks sound amazing.

>>7752771
>Korg M1
You sure? That would make sense i guess. They are so similar anyway.

>>7754535
>all sample based synthesis is the same

>>7752113
I was born in 84' and I have no idea what the fuck this thing is and I sure as hell never used one for my PC at the time.

>>7754503
Whats your problem? He showing uncertainty it sucks your autism is triggering.

>>7752165
Well you can use any synthesizer that supports the GM standard. Problem is, many don't. Which "real" synthesizer do you use? How well does it support MT-32 and GM and GS?

>>7754595
It's passive aggression to "ask" what you think you already know.

>>7752632
this man is a legend

>>7754591
Only the richest PC owners owned these back then. Most of us only knew it existed as an option in the sound card menu, only a handful of PC owners ever saw this thing in person.

>>7754586
its not but ok. i couldn't tell those two particular samples apart if i didn't know which one i was hearing.

>>7754948
Well some instruments which were GM and later, GS compliant could sound better than a Sound Canvas. But lots of instruments claimed it but the effects were different, they ignored some sysex messages, etc. I have an Alesis QS 6.1 which claims to be GM compatible if set into the proper mode and it sounds better than a Sound Canvas (individually sampled notes for many instruments rather than just one or a few samples along octaves, or one sample only) BUT the implementation isn't 100% compliant so it can get into a fucked up mode especially if some game starts sending all kinds of sysex.

Even in the Sound Canvas family you have several different DACs, sample sets at different bit depths and sample rates, etc. I have a Roland PMA-5 (2 actually) and while it's supposed to be GM compliant it has less than the required polyphony for some games.

>>7755004
hah. interesting. early MIDI is a mess. MT32 doesn't even use standard instruments and is all kinds of weird.

>>7755016
MIDI is a protocol.

>>7752265
Yikes, that's a big ear rape. Emulation fags BTFO.

I was a poorfag as a kid, and completely forget about these until there's the occasional thread. What's the depth on the rabbit hole with these? Full on anaconda cable /mu/ meme, rgb pvm, etc?

>>7755872
see
>>7752265

Mt 32 was the neo geo of sound. Hardly anyone owned one and lots of people at the time didn’t even know what sound cards were (if they were even available). This is def audiophile territory imo. It was supported because “why not” by a few studios like Sierra and Origin.

>>7755909
Popular sound middleware / libraries supported it too, it wasn't UNpopular.

The OP's image is an SC-88, not an MT-32. It's a more advanced version of the SC-55, which is what most PC games were composed with starting in 1991. You can buy one on Ebay for less than $200, and it's highly recommended if you want accurate sound in older games.

>>7756789
> OP's image is an SC-88, not an MT-32

Honest question, whats the difference? Not an audiophile and have no idea (and generally don't care) about audio tuning. Do own and occasionaly use Etymotic and Audio-Technica headphones only because they sounds nicer. Always setup MT-32 in DosBox games that support it for the same reason.

>>7756850
The MT-32 was older and had fewer sounds. It was marketed towards amateur composers, whereas the Sound Canvas family of devices were intended for professional use.

>>7756850
>Honest question, whats the difference?
The instruments don't sound the same.

>>7754804

By the way, Roland sells a Sound Canvas emulator for less than a $100, which might be a better alternative to buying real hardware.

>>7754591
Some sort of synthesizer... maybe?

>>7754591
Look on the bright side, kiddo. At least you're not a zoom zoom.

>>7754503
what is in it that is so hard to emulate?

>>7756008
I don’t disagree with this. It was just there if you wanted the option. Just a expensive but good sounding option. Definitely not entry level pc audio

>>7757042
Shut the FUCK up you retard.

>>7757225
see
>>7752265

Everything.

>>7757042
Virtual Midi Synth and MUNT exists too
and OP is underage faggot from discord searching for (you) baits.

Also only Youtuber fags cares about this shit, the rest just wants to play vidya at peace with emulation and laugh at the fags hoarding tech that will break soon because no one can repair it anymore.

I don't have an actual unit but I downloaded a soundfont and used it with NBlood. Fuck it sounds so good

Soundcanvas sounds too much like standard general midi. If I'm gonna dunk $200+ on a midi module, it'd be something more unique like a MU-80 or a Gmega.

>>7759684
Both sound like trash.

>>7752634
What flight sim driven by a 68k tater is worth peripherals that fancy?

>>7760115
Even if you're just using wireframe graphics a good control system can be really fun, zoomer.

>>7752117
Sound Blaster! incels BTFO.