/vr/ - Retro Games

>Audio issues

>>7752938
Because its author isn't a attention whoring drama queen with trendy mental illness of the month.

>>7752938
Quack quack nigga

>>7752938
>emulating
kys poorfag

>>7752957
Based Duckchad.

>>7752961
Let's see your shelf full of limited run games averaging in the thousands each, buypig.

>chd support
nah

>>7752984
Its a shit format. CUE/BIN is the true white mans format.

>>7752971
your personal records will never be considered legit, emucuck.

>>7752971
Based

>>7752938
>internal upscaling?
>UI or setup not requiring high-functioning aspergers to bother with?
Sorry but Mednafen had years to try to get it's shit together but the devs elected in Linux-esque fashion to instead be obnoxious cunts about user functionality and features.

This toxic autism prompted instead other devs to make Duckstation, that even in it's current beta form BTFO Mednafen. Mednafen is now just a sour footnote, a dated steppingstone, in PSX emulation history. We finally got our PSX equivalent of the Dolphin emu, it's all about Duckstation going forward.

>>7753027
>considered legit
Good, not like I play games to please random people.

>>7753078
Jesus, why is the duckstation dev so obvious when he posts
Get over yourself dude

>>7753078
Shill your emulator elsewhere fucko mednafen actually works on my system

>>7753078
Mednafen/Beetle PSX's literal only purpose is accurate emulation, so you're not going to convince someone already using it to stop in favor of something LESS accurate. Work on your goddamn software so that accuracyfags can actually switch to something better, not sidegrade to something easier but worse.

>>7752938
i wish they would add .chd support it brings down the size of your games by a good amount and is lossless compression

>>7753108
>asked for best PS1 emulator
>gets the answer
>loses his fucking shit
Well don't ask questions you don't want the answer to then, simple as innit luv.

>>7753161
>gets an opinion*
FTFY

Personally I like Mednafen, Duckstation, XEBRA and Beetle HW in Retroarch.

Being a normal person, I can use all of them.

>>7752938
a hacked vita for the comfiness.

>>7753161
I'm not OP kike

>>7753027

>>7753098
>>7753108
>>7753118
>autists lacking the neurological development required to move onto the new standard and coping hard
Always the same story whenever Duckstation comes up, listen, the future is that way, let's all go there.

Why emulate the worst console? Why not play virtual boy while you're at it?

>>7753305
>Presses F
>Hey, have you heard about FPGAs? Well you're in luck MiSTer!

>>7753315
Why, what does it do that mednafen doesn’t

>>7753338
See: >>7753078

>>7753351
Right, so nothing, it does less, good to know

>>7753353
>right, so everything, good to know
FTFY

>>7753315
Dude if you'd just improve your emulator we'd all use it. There's no need to fling shit, just work on it and people will come.

>>7752957
Only correct answer

For pure native highly compatible PS1 emulation, Mednafen is the way to go.
If you're the kind of anon that likes upscaling, overclocking and shit like that you should instead use it's fork Beetle PS1 in Retroarch or use something like Duckstation.

>>7752938
Xebra, it's a PSX simulator.

>>7752938
>PS1 emulator

Does this mean it only emulates the PSOne and not the PSX? Kinda stupid.

>>7753506
Cmon anon outside of one machine that matters in the least
PS/PS1/PSX are the same thing and can be used interchangeably when referencing

>>7752993
Does it even make a difference to emulators? I thought the only purpose of multiple bin tracks was so you could also insert the disc into a CD player to listen to the ingame music titles.

>people who call the PS1 the PSX
>especially after 2003 when Sony released an actual PSX

>>7753525
Yeah I mean, I get using correct nomenclature, but PSX and GCN is just fucking stupid and arguably wrong at this point.

>>7753529
To be fair calling it GCN in the west of official company policy (also caps lock is cruise control for approval). PSX on the other hand was merely Sony's internal project name, AND was subsequently used for the market release of a different device so it's just incredibly misleading and confusing to use for the PS1 today.

>>7753529
>GCN
Graphics Core Next? Global Cycling Network?

>>7753078
>>internal upscaling?

>>7753535
>Global Cycling Network?
Based and /n/ pilled.

>>7753547
Are you using the emulator on a CRT through a composite cable for the correct analog processing/filtering?

No? Didn't think so, and now the claims of accuracy that is the crux of the whole Mednafen argument has collapsed completely. Enjoy playing the games wrong in the most horribly unappealing way possible and getting eye cancer.

>>7753563
>Are you using the emulator
no

>>7753535
GameCubeN

>>7753535
>The only approved short name for the Western Hemisphere and Europe is "GCN". For your reference, Japan preferred to use a two-letter acronym "GC" in Asia. We felt it was important to include the "N" in the Western Hemisphere and Europe to recognize and reflect the strength of the world-famous NINTENDO brand name so our abbreviation is "GCN".
Apparently they also had difficulties registering GC as a trademark in the US, so that's part of why they went with GCN. Beats me why they didn't go with NGC though.

>>7753623
Marketing probably, they wanted the GC first and foremost

>>7753679
But why GCN and not NGC, it's like if they had abbreviated the NES to ESN, SNES to SESN or the N64 to 64N.
It doesn't follow their established naming conventions or logic for that matter, it's just really fucking bizarre and dumb.

>>7753684
I just said they probably wanted the GC first and foremost

>>7753684
Speaking of SNES, are you supposed to say Sness, Ess-Ness or Ess-Enn-Eee-Ess?

>>7753692
Who cares, say it however you want

>>7753690
And I said that doesn't make any sense, given their naming conventions.

>>7753716
What?
Unless you have autism or OCD, why would it not make sense

>>7753078
>internal upscaling
no thanks that's for faggots.
>muh ui
mednafen spyo3.cue in a terminal, it's not that hard.

For me it's beetle SW at native res with crt royale

It is broken in RA on Android for a long time. Probably nobody actually uses it. It is a pity, because this is the best way to run Castlevania SOTN.

https://github.com/libretro/beetle-psx-libretro/issues/423

>>7752951
Such as?

>>7753532
Both PSX and PS1 have this identical problem actually, so it's a non-point or a point in favor of using neither, not in favor of PS1.

>>7753684
>>7753623
NGC was taken by something else, that's pretty much it.

>>7753078
based

>>7753692
Superfamicom

>>7753078
>too stupid to run a command line
>uses SJWspeak like "toxic"
41% yourself anytime.

>>7753529
> but PSX [...] is just fucking stupid and arguably wrong at this point.

Huh huh

>>7754661
Now let's try a game by another company...

>>7754673
>>7754661
But maybe both Capcom and Squaresoft were fucking stupid and arguably wrong then, how about Konami in 1999?

>>7754661
>>7754673
>>7754681
>gotcha!!!
>no wait ...these says PS-X
...So the correct nomenclature is PS-X now then? Well shit anon, looks like you dun goofed.

>No Directinput vibration
Fuck that, i'm not buying a new controller just for that, i'll stick with ePSXE thank you.

>>7754681
>>7754673
>>7754661
It's so weird that we have actual "PSX denialists" in this world. They don't believe this product exists. You can go on ebay and buy one right now (don't actually do this, they're terrible and overpriced.) They can't comprehend this thing is real and it's baffling that it's limiting their ability to engage in discourse.

>>7753027
Nobody cares. Unless you're a pro making money, caring how you measure against other strangers is just weird.

>>7755107
I've been here forever and I swear I've never seen anyone post a different image of that thing, or the exact same one from a different angle.

Any idea why that is?

>>7755262
first google result

>>7755265
And here's the first duckduckgo result. Quite the jawdropper.

>>7752938
If you have to ask then you know its not.
Duckstation is what Chads use

>>7755596
the fact that every time duckstation is brought up, it's used in conjunction with memes is enough for me to know it's average

>>7753027
who fucking cares retard
they're video games

>>7752993
>CUE/BIN
I prefer a split format like CUE+ISO+flac/mp3/whatever. That way I can toss whatever music I feel like into a game. I did that for Mech2 in dosbox with modified music files to fix an issue with music cutting off too early.

>>7756164
Ps1 is not PC, also why not just mute the music and play your own flac files in the background?

>>7753078
literally the only flaw with mednafen's config file is how fucking big it is and how ineffective ctrl+f is for it

>>7756195
mednaffe

>>7755889
You are such a faggot. Just accept it

>>7756195
install a better text editor then, like emacs.

>>7756226
that's what i use, i just say ctrl+f because most people know what that is. swiper can deal with it but it's still janky.

>>7752938
No plugins. Spot on accuracy and compatibility. It's fantastic.
>>7753078
Upscaling just exasperated issues with the original rendering flaws. Then you have to ad more hacks on top of that to fix up the wobbling/perspective correction etc.
In the end you're not even playing a ps1 game, you're playing some bastard frankenstine that looks atrocious, and it will crash and have glitches if you bothered to play it for longer than 5 minutes.

If you hate the way 25 year old games look so much that you have to debase them with horrific hacks and glitchy emulation features, why do you even bother?
> it's all about Duckstation going forward.
lol this is epsxe all over again.

Best psx emu, duckstation.

>>7756497
Mednafen's great because it's pretty much the only PS1 emulator that can accurately play rhythm games without massive timing issues.

>>7756585
Yeah, combined with G-Sync and there’s really barely any input lag issues

>>7752957
literally the dolphin of ps1

>>7754926
>>no wait ...these says
shut up clancy

>>7755889
enjoy denial, loser

These petty "wars" that anons try to start between Mednafen and Duckstation are so lame.
They serve two purposes. Mednafen is for pretty much full accuracy while native with no bells and whistles. Duckstation loses some of the accuracy but has all the bells and whistles you could ask for and a Dolphin-like UI, for the people that don't like Mednafen's lack of one without external frontends like Mednaffe.

>>7757351
The only thing that duckstation has from what I see is dialog boxes which is apparently the second coming of Christ for some reason

>>7752938
>What's the best PS1 emulator

ePSXe

Ok, why would I want to change my psx emu from epsxe when all the games are working perfectly fine on it for years already and I never had problems with it? How are other emulators supposed to be better?

Honest question.

>>7757765
Plus it has directinput rumble right out of the box

>>7757765
>working perfectly fine
They're not, you just accept huge compromises because you're lazy

ePSXe is the undisputed king of emulation. There's nothing better.

>>7758106
Lazy like in I had no problem configuring mu epsxe for every game I played? Sure buddy. Now tell my what's the actual advantage of other emus or fuck off.

>>7758154
Scroll up dumbfuck, the answers you seek are in this goddamn thread you lazy retard.

>>7757765
>>7758106
Based epsxechad

>>7758163
So you really have nothing, ok.

>>7758260
Not him but basically Duckstation and RetroArch (with Mednafen core) offer better graphics options as well as the PGXP function that basically remove the textures flickering/moving.

Duckstation also has better performance. RetroArch is fucking garbage.

>>7758385
This, Duckstation a based

>epsxetard always asks for reasons to ditch his "perfect" emulator out of self-doubt and ignorance
Just kill yourself already, fagola.

>>7754681
why are you getting so worked up m8, its just a console

>>7755107
You’re the PSX denialist though
No one claims the PSX doesn’t exist, we’re just saying the abbreviation ‘PSX’ has always been commonly used for the PlayStation.

>>7755107
No one is denying this turd's existence. The point is that it was extremely common for the PS1 to be referred to as the PSX. But you already knew that.

>>7758458
>>7758480
The PSX now refers to the DVR, calling the PS1 the PSX just creates confusion in attempt to appear sophisticated by using outdated terms.

Calling the PS1 "PSX" after the PS2 was announced and released is retarded. Even more retarded after the actual trademarked PSX came out.

>>7758571
or it's just what people who were actually alive at the time are used to, but you can choose to continue being upset about that all you like, little zoomzoom

>>7758613
Just call it PS1 like a normal person

ePSXe and anyone who says otherwise is a contraritarian retard

>>7758613
>or it's just what people who were actually alive at the time are used to
You mean PlayStation?

>>7758620
Don't tell me what to do, faggot

>>7758626
Ok but why tho?

>>7758385
Thanks, that sounds like a valid reason. Personally I prefer the original pixelated graphics, low resolution and flickering textures.
>>7758424
Because we used that emulator for over 10 years and it always fully served it's purpose. No need to change the software when there is no problem with your current one and it doesn't become outdated.
>>7758643
It always worked, have no issues that I know of and offers enough customization (but it's not always piss easy to set up). It also worked for every single smartphone I owned, without any issues. It's just a solid and stable choice that was the first really good psx emulator and never fallen behind.

>>7758701
>and it doesn't become outdated
Ok?
You obviously don’t care much for quality in your emulation as long as ist starts and plays huh?

>>7758626
>>7758701
I've used it since 2008 and I always hated it and had major problems with it. I heard even the current versions has issues switching discs mid game like for MGS.
If Duckstation existed when I was a kid my life would have been 1000x easier

>We already have horses, we don't need cars
Imagine being a fucking luddite over free software.

>>7759265
Framerate, loading times, visual glitches all true to the psx version, so I wouldn't say I don't care. I grew up on psx, I look for the trueish experience that is fairly easy to set up. epsxe always offered it.

>>7759271
Having completed some multidisc games, including MGS and disc switching for Monster Rancher, I can say for myself that there were no problems. And it was several years ago using both isos and homemade burnt discs.
>>7759313
We already have a reliable and fully functional car, we don't need another fancy car from brand we never tested. I for one value my time and whenever I want to play psx game I boot epsxe without issues and just play.

>Imagine being a fucking luddite over free software
Explain then why is it rustling your jimmies so much? It's only a free emu software, isn't it?

>>7760546
>all true to the psx version
no

>>7760674
Oh, you must be such a cool purist that you notice one pixel being off or a texture warped in the wrong angle by 5%. Do you also plug your pc to a retro tv screen with bazillion cables and adapters? Do you have a ripped ps1 soundcard connected?

Game plays, looks good and nostalgic, I have fun.

>>7760817
as I already said, as long as it starts and plays, you're fine with it

>>7761039
I tried few back in the days and believe me, just working is not enough. Coding another psx emu is a pointless hobby project at this point.

I use duckstation for psx games.

>>7757471
This

>>7757471
ePSXe only looses for PGXP

>>7759313
>We already have tested medicines used for decades
>Here is your brand new untested vaccine bro

>>7763612
Yes, here's your new vaccine. Works a hell of a lot better than medieval alchemy and bloodletting. Cures Polio and shit taste. Too bad it doesn't cure retardation, that's in your genes.

>>7763849
>this one vaccine worked, that means any and all vaccines are good and safe
Yet you're the one calling others retarded? Rofl. Fucking sheep.

>>7763849
>Works a hell of a lot better than medieval alchemy and bloodletting.
Those were new untested treatment methods once. They were considered good at first. But it takes times to see if it's good enough. Some treatments in the past turned out better after decades being perfected.

Same as emulators. ePSXe have most bugs fixed by now because of years of development. It would take more years for new emulators do the same. Both Mednafen and Duckstation got PGXP which is a small improvement compared to ePSXe woobly graphics. But PGXP still don't have compatibility to some PS games.

And these new emulators don't have compatibility to old PC's. If you got a good PC and hate woobly graphics and want to use PGXP in some games to play in 4K then Mednafen is for you. But Mednafen still isn't ready to replace ePSXe yet till they fix most of their bugs

If your PC can handle run-ahead feature then I would say Duckstation might be better. Mednafen has less input lag.

>>7764084
>And these new emulators don't have compatibility to old PC's. If you got a good PC and hate woobly graphics and want to use PGXP in some games to play in 4K then Mednafen is for you. But Mednafen still isn't ready to replace ePSXe yet till they fix most of their bugs

Its 2021 gramps, stop defending shit emulators, just say you are lazy to use something else instead and have fun using “accurate” emulators.

>>7764162
>“accurate” emulators.
This is the worst meme I hear everytime someone shills for Mednafen. The only way for someone to compare accuracy is to test every game on every emulator and every PC. Mednafen shills never did any of this. And PGXP does not improve accuracy just visuals

Forgive me mednabros, I use duck now. I tried it out because of this thread and it just works.

>>7764248
uh huh, same
except with Retroarch

>>7753078
Beetle has done this for years and is more accurate. Enjoy your shit emu lmao.

>>7752957
>>7753078
Right on duckbros, no one can fight the ducko

Are there any okay PSX emulators that allow you to inspect assets? Or any PSX game exploration tools in general?

>>7752938
idk, I always use mednafen

>>7753207
Same

>>7752938
Been comparing how both Mednafen and Duckstation run on my shitty Pentium 4 laptop. Mednafen gives me lag/crackly audio where as Duckstation doesn't. Is there a reason for this?

>>7753692
Super Ness

>>7758627
No, every magazine at the time referred to it as the PSX, and every kid was reading those magazines since the internet was only for fucking chat rooms at the time.

>Mednafen gives me lag/crackly audio where as Duckstation doesn't. Is there a reason for this?

Mednafen-software renderer. Duck-Hardware renderer.

>>7768346
>and every kid was reading those magazines
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

>>7768492
So, adding more RAM would fix it?

>>7768872
No, your CPU isn’t good enough

>>7768597
I know zoomers like to be contrarians but this is fucking ridiculous.

>>7755262
Its expensive and unrelible as fuck. So its always going to be a case of "first google result"
>>7758385
People always complain about retro acrch but they never give any good alternatives with 10ft UI
.

>>7753078
Eh, there's still too many bugs Duckstation needs to fix to be considered great

Why is it that most people seem to forget Xebra exists?

>>7758701
>No need to change the software when there is no problem with your current one and it doesn't become outdated.
After all these years still csn't play Toshinden at the right speed

>>7772642
Doesn't offer enhancements people want.

Or I guess it does now, since you can make it use a graphics plugin from PCSX-R, but it's not just one click or something, so people don't go for it.

>>7752961
Imagine being so poor you can't afford a nice PC and have to keep using a console mommy bought you when you were 10.

>>7774727
you mist be a s.0.y.pod cryptofag.

retard.

>>7752938
I don't have to run through 16 hoops to get it to run a game. Just have the cheat sheet in case I forget the commands, make a quick text file for multidisk games and I'm good.

>>7775898
>not using a GUI
Yeah, don't pretend you don't love jumping through 16 hoops.

It's "PS," you morans. Not "PS1," not "PSX."
That being said, what about the XEBRA emu? I still like Mednafen a bit more, but XEBRA is nice.

>>7777883
I used XEBRA when I was stuck with a shitty decade old laptop and honestly it is pretty good
not sure how it compares against mednafen or even duckstation, but it is nothing to scoff at

I play my PSX games with duckstation, long time used mednafen or bettleHW but duckstation just works.

>>7777984
>I use a worse emulator just because
shills have no shame

>update D*ckstation
>opens in a God awful dark theme with no option to toggle it over
It's fucking over I'm moving to Mednafen and never looking back

Lol