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7748997 No.7748997 [Reply] [Original]

will there ever be a game better than this?

>> No.7749001

literally every game is better

>> No.7749002

>>7748997
it's not even the best N64 zelda

>> No.7749008
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7749008

>>7749001
>>7749002
contrarians

>> No.7749012

>>7748997
>dat music
>dat story
>dat world

god, they don't make em like that anymore

i love how triggered people get when you say this is the greatest game of all time.

It may not be my favorite game of all time, but this game is the full package when it comes to vidya.

>> No.7749015
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7749015

>>7749012
based

>> No.7749029

>>7749015
aw hell naw

>> No.7749045

>>7749012
>lock-on targeting
>first person aim
>360 strafing sword combat
>swimming
>climbing
>grappling hook
>in-game musical instrument
>verbal, somatic, and material spellcasting
>horseback riding
>time travel
>fishing
>night & day cycle
>open world
>non-linear progression(do dungeons out of order)
>countless sidequests
>"reflecting" light
>fire "physics""
etc...

in 1998

what a time to be alive...

>> No.7749076

>>7749029
Back then we would have killed to have our games look like that.

>> No.7749083

>>7749045
Most of those things are terrible though.

>> No.7749086
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7749086

>>7749083
contrarianism

>> No.7749121

>>7749015
lookin' good

>> No.7749178

>>7749015
textures actually look fine to me but the high res HUD is pretty jarring

>> No.7749194

>>7749083
Name one that’s terrible and why
No “I don’t like how it handles/feels” is not a valid argument

>> No.7749198

>>7749045
>verbal, somatic, and material spellcasting

he had like 3 spell animations and the rest was magic arrow projectiles.

>> No.7749201

>>7749012
>story
where?

>> No.7749279

>>7749198
deku nuts
lens of truth
hover boots

>> No.7749563

>>7749015
What is the context for this image? Google gives tons of identical results, but nothing telling me what it actually is. Is it just a texture mod?

>> No.7749576
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7749576

>>7748997
Battletoads, Wonder Boy 2 or 3, Resident Evil 1 or 2. So many games put OoT to shame.

Even Kingdom hearts defeated Link that one time.

>> No.7749789

>>7748997
Yeah, it's called Wind Waker. All other Zelda games are mediocre.

>> No.7749815

>>7748997
:no

>> No.7749962

>>7749201
In the game. Did you read the text? Did you talk to the deku tree, Zelda, impa and Gannon?

>> No.7749964

>>7749576
Not even the same genre. Troll harder.

>> No.7749967

>>7749789
Zoom zoom. WW was ruined by shitty graphics and boring endless ocean.

>> No.7749998

>>7749576
I thought I was the only one who thinks that KH1 shits on OoT. It came out like 3,5 years later and was better in terms of everything

>> No.7750025

>>7749279
>deku nuts
You never used these.
>lens of truth
Yeah, that was pretty dope, actually.
>Hover boots
You never ever wore these things for longer than you needed them.

>>7749967
Why don't you zoom zoom your filtered ass into some rush hour traffic.

>> No.7750094

>>7749045
>fishing
Man, they don't do 'em like they used to :^(

>> No.7750103

>>7750025
>>deku nuts
>You never used these.
They make fighting Stalfos a fucking joke, are you serious that you've never tried using these?

>> No.7750106
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7750106

>Hyrule Castle Town is supposedly the main city of the game where all the shit's happening
>Kakariko Village just a small old lazy flyover town to the side of the world
>has its own graveyard
>a massive underground temple
>bottom of the well with implied disturbing history
>the cursed richest family of Hyrule
peculiar

>> No.7750116

>>7749998
>Disney
No it wasn't

>> No.7750119
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7750119

>>7749076

>> No.7750236

>>7748997
>Starts sentence without capitalization.
>Didn't read.

>> No.7750243
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7750243

>>7748997
There already was

>> No.7750309

>>7749964
Everything good from Zelda was jacked from Wonder Boy.

>> No.7750314

>>7748997
Just start an official cult already, you people have the numbers, you have your icons, patrons and saints and you have the smug, obnoxious, importunate evangelism part perfected. Might as well go the next step and get yourself some tax exemptions.

>> No.7750336

>>7749178
>>7749563
use reshade with sharpening cranked up the ass, it's the same thing

>> No.7750337

>>7749563
idk, i just found it in image search for ocarina of time

>> No.7750357

>>7750025
windwaker will never be good. reddit nostalgiafags can claim otherwise, but really its a worse experience than skyward sword.

>> No.7750361

>>7749015
God that's ugly.

Render game in HD via emulator = bottlenecked by low res textures

Textures redone by hand = Have to deal with some fan's interpretation of the creators original vision.

Either way you lose, I'll stick to my actual N64 on a crt.

>> No.7750368

>>7750361
i found it on image search, i didnt actually look at it before posting and apparently its upscaled or something.

>> No.7750374

>>7748997
It's a great game but I think it's about as overrated as FF7 is. I don't feel it's had as much of an impact on gaming as Half Life, Halo, or Mario 64 has.

>> No.7750417

>>7748997
could never get into zelda. Am I guilty of hindsight here due to the whole speedrunning/tranny association or is there just something really gay about this franchise and its squeaky little softboy protag?

I was reading about this Japenese series Nioh and they had to completely change the protagonist because it was a "beautiful boy", some kind of japanese pederast concept, and they were like "uh, this won't fly in the west". I think there's some little tinge of that spreading into this other japanese property

>> No.7750431
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7750431

>>7750417
gay? the whole franchise has never preached anything homosexual, apart from having a gay caricature in majoras mask.

link is 16 in this game, what do you expect him to look like? japanese beauty standards are different to the west, being extremely muscular and overall manly isnt considered peak male attractiveness there.

i dont know about what youre saying about pederasty, like the gigachad meme its not like most users who post it are actually faggots, they just appreciate what he looks like with the muscularness in a non homosexual way. perhaps its the same with the japanese, or maybe im wrong.

>> No.7750460

>>7750431
>preached
too much /pol/ mate. Something can definitely be gay and not be gay propaganda

>> No.7750462 [DELETED] 

>>7750460
i dont even use that board, i thought that word meant promote but apparently it means teach. oh well.
>gay and not be gay propaganda disagree. if you have homosexuality shown in a good way, you promote homosexuality.

>> No.7750465

>>7750460
i dont even use that board, i thought that word meant promote but apparently it means teach. oh well.
>gay and not be gay propaganda
i will disagree. if you have homosexuality shown in a good way, you promote homosexuality.

>> No.7750479

>>7748997
what game

>> No.7750486

>>7750465
>promote
If you make a game that has a sexy little boy in it that makes old gay dudes hard and they really like it, it's not "showing homosexuality in a good way", though, is it. It's just gay. Get it?

>> No.7750494

>>7750486
>If you make a game that has a sexy little boy in it that makes old gay dudes hard and they really like it
What's that got to do with OOT?
No matter what you design, draw, create, SOMEone is going to be sexually aroused by it and read things into it that you never intended.
Gays especially tend to project onto any and every character ever made

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>>7748997
yes but not in your console

>> No.7750515

>>7750486
you had linked it to pederasty, i had interpreted that to mean it was intentional.

>> No.7750843

I know it's not retro but BotW had that whole part where Link has to cross-dress as a Gerudo. That was pretty gay and led to some absolutely disgusting fan works.

>> No.7750868

>>7749789
Based Wind Waker appreciater

>> No.7750939
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7750939

>>7750501
>Half of the game is cutscenes and codecs

>> No.7750959

>>7748997
Dark Souls 1 comes close imo.

>> No.7750961

>>7750501
>he can't FATHOM someone having 2 consoles at once

>> No.7750967

>>7750959
Ah yeah and metal gear solid is also top notch. No hate.

>> No.7750970

>>7748997
Probably not. Its essence is in its simplicity and restraint. Every time someone attempts an adventure game, they add to much. Combos, skills, slow motion scenes, quicktime events, whatever. No one has the ability to do what Nintendo does. The self control and humility to make a game about courage rather than power.

>> No.7750974

>>7749789
actually yeah. one of the things that makes wind waker so impressive is the history and lore of that world is actually the game you just got done playing. It's amazing in that regard.

>> No.7750976

>>7750431
>the whole franchise has never preached anything homosexual,
I guess you never played BotW? Where you play as a crossdressing femboi

>> No.7750981

>>7750976
that's a humiliating experience. the opposite of the homosexual fantasy of it being normal.

>> No.7751016

>>7750961
My buddy had a ps1. I used to love going over and playing Bloody Roar and Xmen vs Street Fighter. Pretty much all we touched on that System. There was another party game but I have never been able to find it. I assumed it was Crash Bash, but I've been through all the PS1 Crash games and didn't find anything related to what I played. It was a 2D (with 3d models) dogfighting game. You steered your plane in circles and if you went off screen you'd wrap back to the other side. When you shot down another player, his plane would explode and he would drop out in a parachute. When he hit the ground, he'd respawn in a plane. If you shot the parachute down you'd get extra points, and then he'd respawn instantly.

every once in a while crates would drop down on parachutes that if you shot them would give you points or maybe bombs. I don't remember well. This turned into a large post...

>> No.7751053

>>7750417
Latent homo

>> No.7751075
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>>7748997
>Half to cut down all the epic areas because consumer system couldn't handle them
>Don't restore them on remasters
>Retards eat that shit up right off the floor
Some retard is going to use them cutting shit areas like the poop tunnels and the original Deku Tree to justify Nintendo ripping them off and another retard is going to call me a contrarian. Really it just goes to show if you market your games to kids and keep the series alive you'll have the perfect consoomer retards.

The fire temple really got the short end of the stick though. Getting all it's large open areas so heavily cut down then having it's theme thrown out for a shitty spirit temple remix

>> No.7751109

>>7751075
cut content proves this game is the best. people like you will never get it. you just want more more more. you just don't get it. you don't know what it's like to refine. only to add.

>> No.7751130

>>7751075
>I have no idea how games are developed

>> No.7751136

>>7751075
Kill yaself retard

>> No.7751963

>>7750515
Fucks sake you a are a weird guy, you just can't get this through your head. If you intentionally make a little boy hot for gay men to enjoy, that is very gay. It's still not "promoting homosexuality".
I feel like I interact with the same bullheaded sperg on here every day in different threads

>> No.7752003

>>7751963
you're literally talking to a zoom-educated 13 year old discord/4chan/reddit/youtube casualty, the funniest thing is these little faggots are fucking doomed for the rest of their life now, no one will ever even want to be their friend

>> No.7752027

>>7748997
Yes. There have been. I have compiled a 100% objective list of the greatest games of all time.

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Civ III
3. Diablo (ok, this one is slightly less objective because I love rouge-lites)
4. Witcher III
5. Ocarina
6. Chrono Cross
7. New Vegas
8. Diablo II
9. StarCraft
10. Shadow of the Colossus

Sometimes I switch Cross and Trigger. The Cross is a tough case because it is only for high wits and most people don't get it.

>> No.7752042

>>7749045
The open world 3D was new. A Link to the Past had the hook, an open world full of things to find and side quests, you could do dungeons out of order, dimension travel, etc. All in 1991.

>> No.7752067

Never.

>> No.7752072

>>7748997
Last of Us duology is better.

>> No.7752447

>>7752027
fucking hell this looks like a buzzfeed article.

>> No.7752607
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>>7748997
Sony fans back in the day disagreed.

>> No.7752614
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Soon. Someday soon.

>> No.7752638

>>7752614
Finally I can replay this boring game where I know all the answers to the puzzles on PC

>> No.7752653

>>7752614
What is that supposed to be?

>> No.7752654
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7752654

>>7752638

>> No.7752886

>>7752614
Hopefully Nintendo cracks down on it. PCucks can stick to "enjoying" it through a poorly coded emulator or Youtube.

>> No.7753282

>>7752027
Imagine typing out this list as if anyone cares, let alone agrees.

>> No.7753412

>>7752027
>New Vegas
A buggy game has no business on this list, your opinion is ignored.

>> No.7753428

>>7752027
>rouge-lites
Subtle.

>> No.7753806

my game

>> No.7753813

>>7748997
no

>> No.7754440

>>7748997
I don't think so. But I can name some more story driven games that are worth the same spot as OOT:

>fallout 2
>deus ex
>final fantasy VI

That's it.

>> No.7755770
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7755770

>>7748997
I'm trying to finish this game for my first time atm.
It's still pretty good, some awkward controls here and there and the low framerate doesn't help, but you get used to it. Can definitively see how some kids would love it back then, still has some good atmosphere and lots of weird characters

>> No.7756485

>>7749045
everything in a video game is a "spellcast"

>> No.7756492 [DELETED] 

>>7749967
90s "zoomers" hated windwaker because they were idiots when it came out.
when they grew up they understood it better and then twilight princess and skyward sword put it into perspective.

>> No.7756552

>>7748997
Not unless you can become a child again.

>> No.7756790

>>7751109
Pay nintendo more money slave

>> No.7756807
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7756807

>>7748997
>absolutely love oot, every time i play it I'll genuinely just sit down and usually end up beating the game in one or two sittings
>cannot stand majoras mask, always drop it by snowhead temple
it's strange considering mm is basically just an expansion on oot but for some reason ocarina just is so much more enjoyable than it

>> No.7756809

>>7751109
>>7751130
>>7751136
>Nintendo turned the big epic areas of the fire temple into bland square rooms
>...and that's a good thing!
Nintendrones. Not even once.

>> No.7756814

>>7750417
maybe if you were younger ?
miyamoto designed zelda based on his walks/adventures exploring nature as a kid and i definitely get that from them.
the whole appeal is feeling like your going on a massive adventure and travelling to foreign lands in most zelda games.
if you ever imagined about running away or going on adventures as a kid then zelda had a lot of appeal to you as a game series.

>> No.7756831

>>7748997
tetris

>> No.7757384

>>7756807
do you even know what the word expansion means

>> No.7757389

>>7749045
>"Countless" sidequests
Biggorons sword.... And... Uhh....

>> No.7757394

>>7752614
How are they getting 20% in 6 months then 4 then 2?

Are decomp tools getting better? What other projects are underway? This shit is honestly the most exciting thing in retro Vidya just for the potential of fans being able to do what they want with games they love. You just KNOW it's going to get clamped down on hard in the next year or two

>> No.7757420

>>7749045
Isn't there like only two dungeons you can choose to do in either order? At least without glitching the game?

Most of those things had been done to some extent (or you're exaggerating them), but the active day and night cycle where you could watch the sun go down was honestly incredibly impressive. It was smooth and the game didn't fade out, it was really rad.

I was stoked when they followed it up by making a whole game around it. I guess if you built the tech to do it, why not make use of it?

>> No.7757442

>>7748997
Give it 20 years when a new group of 25-35-somethings say something they grew up with is the greatest game of all time

You can never hold that title forever due to nostalgic faggotry

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>>7757442
kek... reminds of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2TRFIVZQEI

in a decade or so, one of those kids will be making /vr/ threads just like this one, but with a fortnite screenshot

>> No.7757512

>>7757442
>>7757506
yeah, just like how kids are claiming windwaker is the best game ever made.

most people have the intelligence to realise that games like fortnite and overwatch are worthless and nothing in comparison to zelda.

>> No.7757538

>>7757420
You can technically do the first 3 adult dungeons out of order, but to do the Water Temple without the bow requires you to know what locked doors are useless beforehand. You can also do Spirit Temple before Shadow Temple, there is one section in Spirit where they intended you to use the hover boots, but if you time your jump so you land on the moving boulder, the animation of you getting hit pops you up enough to grab the floating white crystal to open the door.

>> No.7757556

>>7757506
lol that dance is so silly

>> No.7757564

>>7757512
>yeah, just like how kids are claiming windwaker is the best game ever made.
this is what happens when the individual has nothing else, better or just refuses to experience anything else due brand worship.
this is not intelligent at all and reveal how shallow and childish those conclusions of "best game of all time" are.

>> No.7757651

>>7748997
There will be and are, but still it's one of the best Zelda out there. Definitely better than breath of the wild. Not trying to troll.

>> No.7757671

>>7748997
the 3DS remake doesn't have soul but it looks better.

>> No.7757687

>>7757564
youre missing the point entirely. no nostalgiafags say that because windwaker clearly isnt one of the best games ever made. the same way no one who grew up with minecraft says thats the best game ever.

>> No.7757697
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7757697

ocarina is just so comfy and so solidly made
it's really just "generic 3d zelda" but it's still my favorite because it doesn't have any retarded gimmicks (majora doesn't have a retarded gimmick, i just prefer oot because it's more relaxed) and it's just solidly designed and paced the entire way through. it's just a game i can always return to

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>>7757442

>> No.7757706

>>7750361
I play it on wii virtual console on a lcd screen looks good

>> No.7757715

>>7757705
Those things are 10 years old, right. This is a sign you should leave 4chan and nerd garbage behind.

>> No.7757718

>>7757715
Looks like the childhood is supposed to be 2011-2013 or something? There aren't people on 4chan with this as part of their childhood, right?

>> No.7757727

>>7757718
Yes they are, most current users are 20-21 years old. Irony poisoned doomers too ashamed of enjoying things from constant cyber bullying.

>> No.7757730

Most users don't know who moot, something awful or wt snacks was.

>> No.7758319

>>7750094
It's still among my favorite fishing systems ever. The only game that has surpassed it IMO is RDR2.

>> No.7758332

>>7750106
Kakariko is a Sheikah hideout.
And it sure doesn't help that the Castle Town gets reckt after the first half of the game.

>> No.7758353

>>7750417
The speedrunning shit is among the bottom of the iceberg in terms of the fanbase.
This website truly rots brains.

>> No.7758358

>>7750959
Kinda hate its second half after you unlock the teleport.

>> No.7758369

>>7757442
the 25-35 somethings in 20 years will have had iPhones, not handhelds dipshit

>> No.7758785

>>7758369
>whats the nintendo 3ds

>> No.7760179
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>gorons are starving but kakariko is literally fencing them in to die, instead of helping them
>ganon seals off the cavern with his great powers, but apparently made no effort to even find the ruby
>darunia doesnt even think to warn the king or army of hyrule that ganon is evil
>the reasoning for the gate being closed isnt even explained(see point 1), but if we're to assume its the evil monsters coming from it, its literally just what, 4-6 tektites hopping around? all the dodongos are sealed inside the cavern and the gorons walk around like they dont even care
>why does the guard laugh at zelda's letter like its some dumb prank, but still opens it anyway?

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7760189

>>7760179
>darunia doesnt even think to warn the king or army of hyrule that ganon is evil
Darunia is pissed when Link enters, when he heard the royal song he thought the king finally answered his message but instead a little boy is standing before him.
It sounds like Darunia did send a message, but never received a response (intercepted by Ganondorf?)

All of your other points can be easily explained as the King fucking hates non-hylians.

>> No.7760196

>>7760189
why would the king hate the gorons? and again, what reason did the gate even have, since they could more than likely destroy it if they tried

>> No.7760207

>>7760196
>what reason did the gate even have
It's a gate in a video game dumb shit

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7760243

>>7748997
Pretty much impossible at this point unless an absolutely revolutionary game comes out that can carry VR into the mainstream.

>> No.7760348

>>7760196
the gate is to prevent little boys from wandering to danger

>> No.7760351

>>7760348
...so then why did he open the gate?

>> No.7760384

>>7760243
why are those chickens bullying fish girl?

>> No.7760393

>>7760351
because you have a letter from the fucking princess saying it's ok

>> No.7760408

>>7760393
and he laughs at it, like it was a dumb joke

>> No.7760416

It is hilarious, you're the 15th kid she's sent up that mountain claiming they're a hero.

>> No.7760419

>>7760408
he still lets you through what is your point even

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7760452

>>7750417
Link made me realize I wasn't straight in my early teens.

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7760474

>>7760452
Me too but he looked more like this.

>> No.7761303

I possess the Triforce of BUMP

>> No.7761314

>>7757389
...and uhhh the gold skulltulas, mask trading, chicken finding, the optional songs, etc. there are literally dozens of sidequests unless you have some retardedly narrow definition of "sidequest" .

>> No.7761610

>>7757697
>unused
I wonder what was going to be there on that altar.

>> No.7762256

>>7760452
made you realise that youre a pedophile?

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7764415

I like the sequel.

>> No.7764658

>>7761314
Don't forget poe hunting, heart piece collecting, upgrade finding, and magic beans

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7764780

>>7760408

>> No.7765891

>>7750094
>>7758319
I don't know why Nintendo never came up with a bona fide fishing simulator. They'd probably do better than most of the "product/champion bass catcher placement" games.

>> No.7765904

What's the quickest way to find out which revision your Ocarina cartridge is?

>> No.7765952

>>7757705
Nobody on the planet thinks this

>> No.7766168

>>7765904
Check the back of the cartridge.
NUS-CZGE-USA = NTSC 1.0
NUS-CZLE-USA = NTSC 1.1
NUS-CZLE-USA-1 = NTSC 1.2

If you're afraid your cartridge is a repo for some odd reason, find out through which glitches work and don't work, or trigger the crash debugger for a surefire way to find the version.
https://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Ocarina_of_Time_Version_Guide

>> No.7768051

>>7760452
shut up faggot

>> No.7768057

>>7765891
Waifu's and fishing are the only redeemable qualities of this garbage game.

>> No.7768104

>>7748997
I like OoT but everything it did ALttP did better, earlier. ALttP really ought to have the "best game of all time?" discourse that OoT has

>> No.7768121

>>7768104
alttp sucks. Turning into a bunny? What were they thinking?

>> No.7768207

>>7768104
But 3D.

>> No.7768537

>>7761314
>Collectibles are side quests

>> No.7768786
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7768786

Banjo-Kazooie Jiggies of Time is the better Ocarina of Time

>> No.7768934

>>7768786
>banjo is better than zelda

you are an idiot

>> No.7768943

>>7768537
Collectibles can be a side quest if they're treated by the designers like a side quest, yes. Are you retarded?

>> No.7768990

>>7748997
Majora's Mask

>> No.7769460

>>7748997
it hasn't topped castlevania SOTN though

>> No.7769661

>>7768121
bad opinion

>> No.7771570

>Wind Waker
Princess Zelda & Tetra
>Phantom Hourglass
Tetra only
>Spirit Tracks
Princess only

Wait, that sounds like

>Ocarina of time
Young & Adult Link
>Majora's Mask
Young Link only
>???
Where's our third game with Adult link guys? its not Twilight princess is it?

>> No.7771751
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7771751

>>7771570
>Where's our third game
it is a mystery

>> No.7772327

Yes, it was called a Link to the Past and came out seven years earlier.

>> No.7773298

>>7771751
This is a terrible name.

>> No.7773303

>>7771751
>romhacks
Nooo thanks

>> No.7773989

>>7771570
its clearly twilight princess, and theres nothing wrong with that

>> No.7774481

>>7773989
Based

>> No.7774647
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7774647

>>7749045
Lock on targeting is brilliant because it turns it into a 3D fighter where you can perform various moves (vertical, horizontal, stab, shield, dodge, automated item use such as aiming arrows, stealing with hookshot, etc) and you can context switch to another target, and the camera finds a suitable view for that type of enemy. Skeletons are behind the back a bit, birds at a distance are in profile and zoomed out. It's all quite well designed.

>> No.7774689

>>7764780
HA

thanks anon

>> No.7775215
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7775215

I really love this game and MM but that is also a problem because I keep coming back to them rather than finding new games.
Also have beta water temple with 5 floors, shit looks incredible.

>> No.7775276

>>7775215
And no one, having played old games, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is better.

>> No.7776858

>>7748997
3DS is not retro

>> No.7776885

>>7748997
dragon quest xi

>> No.7778010
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7778010

>>7773989
Twilight princess is one of the best games and they clearly wanted to pull the N64 zelda fans back in. BUT I have nitpicks:
>Not the hero of time.
Its not just that his hair parted different, I'm also acutely aware he was brought up in ordon, so I can't pretend he's the same.
>Doesnt have an ocarina.
I guess the wolf howling is the ocarina but its just not as good. and the wolf I guess is a callback to MM transformations but again not as fun as any of them.
>No Fairy (wii cursor doesn't count)
Although midna is there at least & basically similar to tatl's personality imo.
>No time travel gimmick
this is the main thing for me. a third OOT would do the whole 7 day week idea or something more creative.
>Doesnt lazilly reuse character models
Majora's mask makes me expect to see familiar NPCs in a third game.
>Not on N64 or 3DS
doesn't match the others.

>> No.7778286

>>7757671
>the 3DS remake doesn't have soul
it does if you exclusively play it in 3D

>> No.7778342
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7778342

>>7750361
The only thing that looks somewhat close is Parallel

>> No.7778503

playing the gamecube port at 480p line doubled to 960p on the OSSC looks fucking great.
easily my favorite way to play OOT and MM

>> No.7779092

>>7778503
On what kind of monitor?

>> No.7779359

>>7778010
so youre complaint is that it isnt exactly like another game?

>> No.7779707

>>7760452
not straight = pedo

>> No.7779743

>>7779359
Nah Twilight Princess is based, I'm just saying it doesn't fit in perfectly with the hero of time games and doesn't live up viewed in that context in many ways. I was mostly nitpicking for the sake of it though.

>> No.7779815

>>7778010
i was disappointed gannon was the main villain again- i liked zant till he turned all magoo! i didn't like his walk/ run animations which looked like they were ripped from wind waker!

>> No.7779827

>>7748997
There's been plenty, you're just nostalgia fagging
Just because it did it first doesn't mean it wasn't done better after it.

>> No.7779853
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7779853

>>7779827
>it did it first
whatever OOT did, pic related did it one year before

>> No.7780476

>>7779092
it doesn't matter you dumb crtranny
just play the fucking game

>> No.7780483

>>7779853
Based as fuck

>> No.7780489

>>7778010
>no fairy
Do people actually like Navi/Taylor? News to me.

>> No.7780504

>>7779853
Non shit camera?
Mystical Ninja Goemon's camera sucked, whereas OoT's lock-on camera is it's defining feature.

>> No.7780515

>>7779853
Goemon is great but it's nothing like OoT, the fuck are you on about?

>> No.7780538

>>7780476
We know you're too lazy to acquire a CRT, even for free. You do realize that I play with emulators too, right?
There's no "sides" in this unless you're a retard.

>> No.7780541

>>7780504
Goemon’s camera is fine, you can rotate around the character which is all you need.
OoT’s lock on is overrated as fuck and is honestly nothing special. The fact that OoT fans continually brings it up is embarrassing. The game would have been just fine with a free camera, in fact probably better then the final product instead of “press Z for the camera to default to a single position” shit.
You’re always fighting the camera in OoT whereas in Super Mario 64 and Goemon if the camera isn’t doing what you want, you can fix it yourself.

>> No.7780628

>>7757512
>just like how kids are claiming windwaker is the best game ever made.
ive seen many people consider twilight princess being a direct improvement to OOT in every way

>> No.7780681

>>7780541
You need to read >>7774647 to understand how the lock on view opens up directional sword play.

>> No.7780696

>>7780515
It's an obvious Zelda clone with dungeons and collectible heart containers (lucky cats).

>> No.7780702

>>7748997
For what it was, at the time, no. It's unmatchable. The feeling of the world, the adventure, the story (simple but charming) is hard to match. Even if you liked Majora's Mask better, you have to admit it's a more technically complete and finer game.

>> No.7780708

>>7750025
I actually always used the hover boots when I first played it. I regret it, but I thought they were so cool I always left them on.
>>7749045
This is accurate but misleading at some points. The spellcasting wasn't too crazy in game, but it didn't really need to be.

Doing dungeons out of order was also something few people did. You were far more likely to encounter the shadow temple before spirit, and even if the emblem came after the spirit temple, it was listed first in most guidebooks and such.

>> No.7780714

>>7749001
This guy gets it.

>> No.7780758

The most creative dungeons were the child ones.
>Inside a giant, dying tree and you fight a bug
>A cave where food grows, where you fight a fire breathing lizard
>Inside a giant fish infected with parasites.
I suppose you do go inside some giant being twice, so it's not entirely original, but it still somehow felt that way.

>> No.7780794

>>7780758
>okay tree level, good introductory dungeon
>completely generic cave dungeon that at least has a cool boss
>ugly as fuck and near featureless dungeon with an awful escort element to boot
Nah, Forest Temple is when it kicked it into gear.

>> No.7780858

>>7780696
>It's an obvious Zelda clone
you said yourself it came out before OoT, how on earth is it anything like 3D zelda

>> No.7780874

>>7778010
interesting that the yellow map marker is pointing in the direction Lakitu's camera is pointed.

>> No.7780881

>>7778010
you sound like you're memeing but do you not notice Twilight Princess is already a heavily familiar clone of Ocarina of Time?

>> No.7780882

>>7780874
I don't think that's right anon, both death mountain and hyrule castle are behind him which they are at the top and top right of the map and the arrow is pointing towards where link is looking

>> No.7780883

>>7776858
ya but ur mum is

>> No.7780884

>>7771751
The Legend of Zelda
>GrEeN GaMe

>> No.7780885

>>7768786
ha ha is that Link over there!

>> No.7780889

>>7768786
We now need The Linguini of Waluigi and the Tacos of Time

>> No.7780890

>>7780858
>It's an obvious Zelda clone
>>you said yourself it came out before OoT
OoT is literally LttP 3D edition plus pathos, are you an idiot

>> No.7780891

>>7780882
why does Link look like he's on cocaine?

>> No.7780894

>>7780890
and Mystical Ninja 64 is just 3D Mystical Ninja SNES
are you an idiot?

>> No.7780901

>>7780708
I actually did the dungeons out of order. Did the Shadow Temple enough to get the hover boots them naffed off to the desert. Was bored of the spooky prison theme after the well.

>> No.7780908

Yes Link Awakening the original
Majora Mask the original
A Link to the Past

>> No.7781026

>>7780908
>Yes Link Awakening the original
What's wrong with DX?

>> No.7781029

>>7781026
probably the power ups that change the music all the time

>> No.7781032

>>7781026
>>7781029
That is to say there's nothing wrong with DX unless you have severe autism

>> No.7781456

>>7780881
I'm very aware which is why I brought up how they wanted to bring the N64 fans back in, but fair enough I didn't quite address it bc I worded it weird.
Kinda half memeing because I'm on both sides of the fence on this & playing devil's advocate because I think those things are worth bringing up in the comparison.

>> No.7781470

>>7749576
The biggest waste of time is to watch death battle that and watching people unpack Pokémon cards on twitch

>> No.7781748

>>7780489
few people actually found the fairies annoying, it was a made up criticism for ocarina of time as the game is near flawless. redditors always say they hated the fairies to fit in.

>> No.7781892

>>7748997
>3DS Ocarina
>better than this?
There is; Ocarina of Time on N64

>> No.7782086
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>>7757706
I'm doing my first playthrough on Wii VC (always used my original cart before but don't have it handy) and its oddly buggy. I get random stutters that weren't present in the original. Some areas have weird colors, like certain textures in Jabu Jabu look way too purple. And just today, there was a weird lighting effect during the entire Minuet cutscene that made everything look washed out. Plus the higher resolution exposes seams in geometry so there are ugly one pixel thick lines everywhere. Not to mention 4-point texture filtering that ruins certain textures like the sides of stairs (pic related because I'm bad at explaining this, notice the black line is blocky instead of a straight diagonal). VC sucks.

>> No.7782103

>>7780901
I guess it's a fair point that you could get some essential treasure items from a dungoen then fuck off to another one, leaving the boss undefeated. I never did that myself though, since once I'm inside a dungeon I might as well finish it. I consider that more exceptional behavior than any feature intent on the dev's parts.

Keep in mind there's lore pressure to doing a temple as fast as possible (possibly meeting up with/saving Saria/Darunia etc.) That's standard video game narrative dissonance though.

>>7780794
I actually thought tossing Ruto around was fun. I think that she was needed for switches made me tolerate her better while young, since she had a "use" then as lame as that sounds.
The Dodongo cave was also pretty great in my opinion. Activating the elevator shortcuts, blowing up the eyes etc. Yeah it was easy, and in hindsight quite short, but when you play it the first time it's really cool.

>> No.7782110

>>7782086
>Not to mention 4-point texture filtering that ruins certain textures like the sides of stairs (pic related because I'm bad at explaining this, notice the black line is blocky instead of a straight diagonal).
Literally nobody ever noticed or cared about this until some autist brought it up. Now it's all people seem to care about, even though three-point filtering introduces slight visual artifacts all over the place.

>> No.7782119

>>7782110
Doesn't matter, its inaccurate and inferior to the original.

>> No.7782132

>>7782119
>says it's inaccurate and inferior to the original
>plays it in an emulator with the internal resolution cranked up
u wot m8

>> No.7782142
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7782142

>>7782132
this
native res all the way

>> No.7782151

>>7782132
You can't control the resolution on VC, it is what it is. The resolution is irrelevant to texture filtering anyway.

>> No.7782160

>>7782151
>You can't control the resolution on VC
actually you can

>> No.7782161

>>7782142
Real hardware on a CRT is the best way all around.

>> No.7782164

>>7782160
Not for N64 games.

>> No.7782640

>>7749015
Why are the hearts so fucking small

>> No.7782729

>>7782640
They're the same size.