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7735848 No.7735848 [Reply] [Original]

How did Sonic outdraw Crash despite PS1 vastly outselling Saturn/Dreamcast?

>> No.7735849

It's the only thing Sega has to their name and will blast out a sloppy shitstain of a game and go "good enough".

>> No.7735853

Good games don't need yearly releases. It took 2 remasters to put Crash back in people's minds, and demand a new game.

>> No.7735854

>>7735848
>how could consoles that released before the Saturn be popular? I never experienced them, and that means they couldn’t possibly have gained a following

>> No.7735856

>>7735854
PlayStaiton outsold all Sega systems combined

>> No.7735860
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>>7735849
>It's the only thing Sega has to their name

Is this what all zoomers believe or just you?

>> No.7735864

>>7735860
Why'd you post a picture of a graveyard, anon?

>> No.7735867

>>7735856
Sonic 2 is a better game than all Crash games combined

>> No.7735873

>>7735848
Sonic draws dimes despite SEGAs attempt to bury him. He even resurrected Jim Carreys career.

>> No.7735875

Fuck CTR Lootbox Fueled, Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed will always be the ultimate kart racer for me. It was massive waste of Sumo's talent to make Sonic Team Racing instead of a Transformed 2.

>> No.7735880

>>7735875
There aren't any lootboxes in CTR.

>> No.7735892
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>>7735860
>Seaman
Fucking lol. Great example of a bestselling Sega series you got there.

>> No.7735908

>>7735892
you will never be a seaman

>> No.7735956

>>7735860
Yakuza, Bayonetta, and Shenmue are the only games in that entire picture that are still somewhat relevant aside from Sonic. Shenmue dug its grave with the release of 3, Yakuza could very well be on the way there now that it's for some reason going to permanently be a JRPG series, and we haven't heard news on Bayo3 in literal years. Sonic is really the only constant when it comes to the company, everything else on that list is absolutely dead aside from maybe Valkyria Chronicles which is pretty niche in comparison

>> No.7735958
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>>7735892
I've never played Seman but it's got Leonard Nimoy so it's probably based. Now Vectorman is a piece of garbage. It has no place on that list.

>> No.7735964
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>>7735956
Puyo Puyo is still being released.

>> No.7735992

>>7735875
I thought OP was about the original CTR against Sonic R.
But yeah, if it wasn't that, then Sonic All Stars >>>>>>> "nu"-Ctr

>> No.7736024

>>7735956
Total War and Football Manager are popular in UK

>> No.7736026
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>>7735875
>>7735992

>> No.7736036 [DELETED] 

>>7735892
>Sales equals fun
Beep beep

>> No.7736052

>>7736026
Danica was pretty based as a character, that animation of her lying on the car's spoiler mid-race is pretty cool and sexy, plus she funded the game or something.

>> No.7736053
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>>7735892
>So tell me, IS the customer always right?... I didn't think so

>> No.7736054

>>7736052
this. Danica is ok on my book.

>> No.7736076

>>7736052
Fuck that whore for ruining what should of been a kino sega crossover

>> No.7736124

>>7735848
>outdraw
>>/pw/

>> No.7736129

>>7735860
What about Yakuza, Total war etc shit like that. Modern franchises to. They got good shit, in 2020 like half of the top rated games were all sega

>> No.7736218
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>>7736129
Yakuza and Total war are Total shit compared to their old games.

>> No.7736235

>>7735956
>Yakuza could very well be on the way there now that it's for some reason going to permanently be a JRPG series
Eh, I've seen plenty of people who don't mind the change.

>> No.7736375
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>>7735860

>> No.7736394

Shouldn't had turned Tawna into a dyke, lol.

>> No.7736415

>>7735964
>On gacha life support
lol

>> No.7736729

>>7735892
I bought it

>> No.7736736

>>7735867
>Sonic 3&k
FTFY

>> No.7736738

>>7736375
All these franchises, and Sega decides to only make new games for Sonic, Yakuza, and Valkyrie Chronicles.

>> No.7736739

>>7736736
Gay

>> No.7736743

>>7735848
Sony never owned Crash

>> No.7736783

>>7735848
*whiiiiiiiiiiirr*

>> No.7736787
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>>7735860
i dont think you understood the point of the comic or the context of the post you quoted
>>7735864
and then this made me a little sad looking at some of those series

>> No.7736797

>>7736736
both

>> No.7736820

Other games for the ps1 came out and Crash got overshadowed by FFVII, MGS and other games.

>> No.7736824

>>7736218
>its new therefore shit

>> No.7736842

>>7735892
I bought 5 copies in anticipation that one day some faggot on some shithole website will dare speak ill of the sale figures of Seaman. Seethe more, bitch.

>> No.7736872

>I had the better racing game!
get rekt, Sega All Stars Transformed is one of the best racing games ever made.

>> No.7737152

>>7735875
>Fuck CTR Lootbox Fueled
True, but
>Being a retarded soi-chugging faggot who plays remakes instead of the original games

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>>7737152
>implying I ever touched CTR Microtransaction Fueled as >>7735880 has shown
Apply yourself.

>> No.7737209

>>7735848
Crash is ugly as fuck. PlayStation is just expensive try-hard Nintendo and it really shows in the pathetic mascot they shat out.

Sonic was designed by Japanese.

>> No.7737226

>>7735848
People didn't buy the PS1 for Crash.

>> No.7737227

>>7736824
Basically. This will always be true.

>> No.7737231

>>7736026
Danica is overwhelmingly a better choice than that shitty Bowser rippoff. He'll, I'd even prefer having more e-celeb cameos than this shit character. I can already see it: playing as my man Leafy and leaving behind all those faggots who picked PewDiePie or Wings of Redemption.

>> No.7737259

>>7735864
at least half of those gets revivals
Nintendo, EA, and Sony's graveyard even worse

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>>7736375
>Modern Ristar
cursed

>> No.7737274
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>>7737267
that's not Ristar, but probably a spiritual successor character for something unrelated.

>> No.7737292

>>7736738
They're like the Konami of video games.

>> No.7737323

>>7735860
Fucking Sega niggers won't bring back Shinobi

>> No.7737326

>>7735956
Sega hasn't made or even announced a new Sonic game in like 4 years, despite the success of the movie. They must've realized the Sonic team is completely incompetent.

Bayo is 3rd party, Sega only published the very first game, and it might as well be a Nintendo IP now.

Shenmue is just lol, Yu made sure to kill the franchise with 3.

Really the only thing Sega has, and has had for a while is Yakuza and Atlus. And Yak might reach the point of saturation in the near future.

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>>7735860
>>7736375
>I am now known as "The Sega Defener" cause of that day. Know everyone learns to never fuck with me and my beloved Sega. And to this day I am glad I stood up to /vr/. Keep Sega alive, don't let it die out.

>> No.7737337

>>7737326
>Bayo is 3rd party, Sega only published the very first game, and it might as well be a Nintendo IP now.
That's not how IPs work, Sega owns it still.

>> No.7737347

>>7736738
The following list was made in July 202

>Alex Kidd (MW Remake)
2021 Releases

>Company of Heroes (Armor of Heroes)
>Endless (Endless Zone)
>Golden Axe (Golden Axed)
>Megami Tensei (5 Royal)
>Panzer Dragoon (1 Remake)
>Phantasy Star (Online 2 Xbox One)
>Puyo Puyo (Puyo Puyo Tetris 2)
>Space Channel 5 (VR)
>Streets of Rage (4)
>Total War (Troy)
>Yakuza (7/Like a Dragon & Streets of Kamurocho)
2020

>After Burner (Climax Mobile)
>Columns (II AGES)
>Football Manager (2020)
>Hatsune Miku (Mega 39s)
>Mario & Sonic (2020)
>Sakura Wars (Shin)
>Shenmue (III)
>Shining (Blade Arcus Rebellion)
>Space Harrier (AGES)
>Super Monkey Ball (BB HD)
>Starhorse (4)
>ToeJam & Earl (Back in the Groove)
2019

>Bayonetta (8th Gen Port)
>Border Break (F2P)
>House of the Dead (Scarlet Dawn)
>Superstars (Team Sonic Racing)
>Valkyria (4)
>Virtual-On (A Certain Magical)
>Wonder Boy
2018

>Crazy Taxi (Tycoon)
>Daytona USA (3)
>Rez (HD)
>Sonic (Forces)
2017

>Fantasy Zone (II W)
>Mushiking (Shin)
2015

>Hero Bank (2)
>Let's Go (Transformers Human Alliance)
>OutRun (3D)
>Virtua Fighter (Fever Combo)
2014

>Jet Set Radio (HD)
>Nights (HD)
>Virtua Tennis (Challenge)
2012

>Shinobi (3D)
2011

>Thunder Force (VI)
2008

>Altered Beast (AGES)
2005

>Ecco (Defender of the Future)
2002

>Beyond Oasis (Legend)
>Bug! (Too!)
>Hang-On (GP)
>Vectorman (2)
1996

>Clockwork Knight (2)
1995

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>>7737267
holy shit

>> No.7737354

>>7735956
In January they announced an announcement for bayo 3 by end of the year so that's something
Right, bayobros?

>> No.7737448
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>>7735860
Sonic's the worst series on that chart

I'm in the wrong timeline, it wasn't supposed to be like this

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>>7736842
Godpost

>> No.7737720

>>7737227
But what happens when ot turns retro? Does it get better with time?

>> No.7737886

>>7737354
"just forget about it lol"
-kamiya

>> No.7737934

SEGA needs to bring back NiGHTS, Columns, Daytona, and Shining Force.

>> No.7738132

>>7736024
the UK isnt real

>> No.7738139

>>7735848
Gex is better than Sonic

>> No.7738159

>>7736824
Prove him wrong

>> No.7738168

>>7735956
>Shenmue
LMAO literally a failed Yakuza prototype.

>> No.7738309

>>7735860
Some of these deserved to be way more successful than they were and should be still alive in a just world. God damn this is a depressing image.

>> No.7738328

>>7738168
You’re unironically worse than the sega system guy

>> No.7739262

>>7737209
>Sonic was designed by Japanese.

yeah that why he look gay

>> No.7739278

>>7735860
only sonic and monkeyball have any wide scale name recognition there lmao. everything else is either incredibly niche, a meme, or dead

>> No.7739360

>>7737231
>Leafy
Are you 14 anon?

>> No.7739535

>>7735956
Straight up don't worry about yakuza bro, sure main line has switched to rpg but jugdement is still going to carry on the action oriented stuff, just feel bad for people who dont realize this and will inevitably tank the side series that they loved.

>> No.7739537

>>7735848
Crash had an original trilogy remake and a new game within the last 3 years. Sonic Mania was awesome and was released within the last 5 years. Neither is forgotten.

>> No.7739579

>>7737347
Just shows even with segas output people still want more, they are just that good. Truly the srong kid died in the 90s

>> No.7739636

>>7735860
Bayonetta isn't a Sega IP. The last two games were exclusive to Nintendo consoles.

>> No.7739638

because sonic is the only thing sonic team has

>> No.7739701

>>7739636
https://trademarks.justia.com/774/44/bayonetta-77444642.html
Not how it works

>> No.7739764

>>7737353
That is insane, man.

>> No.7740134

>>7737274
She looks like she fucks human men

>> No.7740279

>>7739636
stupid Smash tard

>> No.7740310

>>7739360
Leafy was popular with 14 year olds 5 years ago retard

>> No.7740324

Good afternoon.

Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed > Crash Team Racing.

Have a nice day.

>> No.7740340

>>7740324
>tfw no Transformed 2 with Bayo, a cel shaded Sketch Turner, Miku, Arle and Carby

>> No.7740354

>>7740340
It could happen some day...

Team Sonic Racing didn’t go over well, and Sega likes to milk stuff lately, so it’s not too unlikely.

>> No.7740386

>>7737448
I feel you. We definitely live in a parallel universe were trash is regarded as the best products and good quality titles are niche at best. Why else are we all here crawling in a small little retro board while /v/ argues over trash can A being better than trash can B

>> No.7740432

>>7735848
As someone who owned a PSX back in the day, I never played a Crash game until years latter on emulator. I didn't even know people who owned Crash. But I can't think of a single person who owned a Master System without Sonic. In fact I don't recall PSX ever coming with a pack-in game.

>> No.7740625

>>7735864
Zoom zoom

>> No.7740632

>>7735848
Sonic is one of the most popular Sega games. Crash isn't one of the most popular Playstation games.
Just use your brain m8.

>> No.7740641

>>7740310
Were you a fan 5 years ago?

>> No.7740654

>>7740625
the whole thread is about how Sonic managed to live longer than Crash. I think you're slowly turning senile grandpa.

>> No.7740657

>>7735848
Sega never stopped farting out Sonic games no matter how bad they were, and this also made headlines and kept the series active.
Crash had some bad ones too, but never attention-worthy bad.
Plus Sega has done a better marketing job and there was recently the Sonic movie

>> No.7740691

>>7740632
To be fair, Sonic is also Sega's mascot while Crash is not even Naughty's dog's mascot.

>> No.7740731

>>7739701
>>7740279
So its a Sega IP that they don't give a fuck about.

>> No.7740772

>>7740731
and?

>> No.7740780

>>7735848
He was first in best dressed. Parents and kids of the time alike had Pac-Man, Sonic, Link and Mario burned into their minds and as such every generation was as well, Crash was a 5th gen mascot and by that time games were selling more on content than fanfare.

>> No.7740784

>>7735848
crash didnt say that

>> No.7741492

>>7735860
>ywn have an English translation of Segagaga
Reality is a cruel mistress.

>> No.7742171

>>7735848
You don't get it, we like crash BECAUSE he died out