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7729532 No.7729532 [Reply] [Original]

The Nintendo 64 is the greatest console of all time.
>near-instant load times
>built like a fucking tank
>easy to use, no bullshit. no menus, no media features, just one push of the power button and you're playing.
>supports 4-player out of the box, plug and play
>uses cartridges that have cool pre-rendered art labels, and often come with pure SOUL game saves from fellow chads of yesteryear when purchased used
>universally acclaimed game library with games so influential and fun that entire communities have formed around specific games, with titles like Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64 and Perfect Dark taking top spots on almost every top games list ever made.
I don't care if you think your cringe anime console, of any variety, is somehow better than the N64 due to having more shovelware. The N64 is a better machine in every way than any other console that has ever been conceived by the human brain, and failure to understand it is indicative of the greatest ignorance and stupidity possible. Now greentext every point I made so I can call you dumb and wrong, because you are.

>> No.7729539

>>7729532
>no games

>> No.7729542

>>7729539
>his abusive stepfather didn't buy him the games
sucks to be you, I was playing doom 64 and star fox while finger fucking my neighbor's daughter.

>> No.7729560

Outsold by the Saturn. Pathetic.

>> No.7729572

>>7729560
by selling 25 million more units than the Saturn?

>> No.7729593

>>7729532
>The Nintendo 64 is the greatest console of all time
Too bad about the games tho

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7729630

The Nintendo 64 is the greatest console of all time.
>near-instant load times
>built like a fucking tank
>easy to use, no bullshit. no menus, no media features, just one push of the power button and you're playing.
>supports 4-player out of the box, plug and play
>uses cartridges that have cool pre-rendered art labels, and often come with pure SOUL game saves from fellow chads of yesteryear when purchased used
>universally acclaimed game library with games so influential and fun that entire communities have formed around specific games, with titles like Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64 and Perfect Dark taking top spots on almost every top games list ever made.
I don't care if you think your cringe anime console, of any variety, is somehow better than the N64 due to having more shovelware. The N64 is a better machine in every way than any other console that has ever been conceived by the human brain, and failure to understand

>> No.7729640

>>7729572
Japan know games better than 3rd world countries. Saturn was the better product.

>> No.7729651

>>7729640
Apparently Saturn was the only console of any value Sega ever made then, and it was a flop.

>> No.7729658

>>7729532
>console soooo good that it would have made Nintendo go bankrupt if they didn’t have the handhelds revenue to cover the expenses of the n64 to continue operating.

>> No.7729659

>>7729532
>The Nintendo 64 is the greatest console of all time.
It's the best 3D console. The Famicom is the best console overall

>> No.7729660 [DELETED] 

>>7729630
nice profile pic

>> No.7729663

>>7729658
bankrupt? that's interesting, considering it sold almost the same amount of units as their previous console and, unlike Sony, were making money on every unit sold instead of losing $150 due to the inclusion of a disc assembly alone. are you uneducated or just retarded?

>> No.7729668

>>7729659
>It's the best 3D console.
That would be the Sayguh Dreamcast.

>> No.7729671

Hmm sweet blurry games at silky smooth 20fps

>> No.7729673

>>7729671
>being bad at N64 games
ouch.

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7729681

>>7729671
Based

>> No.7729689

Mario, Zelda, the list goes on

>> No.7729690
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7729690

>>7729663
just accept the fact that nintendo only exist today because of the handhelds. all their consoles are a joke after the snes.

>> No.7729701

>>7729690
dumb and wrong.

>> No.7729713

>>7729689
Well, go on.

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7729726

>>7729532
>omnipresent vaseline filter
>half year software droughts
>$70-$90 games
>300 game library and half of it is Z tier mascot collectathons
>analog stick looser than OP's vagoo because of Nintendo's retarded engineering
>cartridge format gave Sony FF7 on a silver platter, single handedly killing Sega and enshrining AAA movie game dominance in the industry
>literally like 2 rpgs (one's a western kusoge)
>obsoleted by a purple lunchbox

>> No.7729757

>>7729532
based

>> No.7730040

>>7729532
this guy fucks

>> No.7730074
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7730074

>>7729532
>>near-instant load times
IMMA FINNA END THIS WHOLE MANS CAREER
>*manages to have longer load times than the saturn version*

>> No.7730081

>>7730040
himself

>> No.7730090

No one has refuted anything OP wrote proving him right

>> No.7730092

I own pretty much every console except the latest gen trash. The 64 is the only thing that is permanently hooked up in my living room. just an all around god-tier system. I think my everdrive was by far the best gaming purchase I've ever made

>> No.7730094

>>7730074
That's an incredibly uncomfortable way to hold that cart.

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7730114

>>7729532
>lack of features
>positive

This is your average, dissociative, nostalgia-psychosis Nintendo schizo.

>> No.7730153

>>7730114
any feature not related to actually playing the games are pointless. take a hike Sony chud

>> No.7730161

>>7729532
>>built like a fucking tank
Expect for its primary input device.

>> No.7730168

>>7730074
Why does this pepe have two left hands?

>> No.7730203

>>7729532
I did play N64 more than PSX. It had all the really great multiplayer games: Mario Kart, Starfox, Golden Eye, Mario Party, Smash, as well as the best adventure games of generation in Ocarina and Majora's Mask.

It might have had a dearth of games but the games it did have were best in class.

>> No.7730209

>>7729690
>Posts graph showing the massive success of the Wii, which Nintendo sold at a profit and made absolute bank on.

>> No.7730210

>>7729539
>no games
>has 3 of the top 10 games of all time in most lists
Uh huh

>> No.7730215

>>7730203
I played the N64 as much as there were games on it then spent the rest of my time on the PS1. The PS1 outclasses in quality and quantity.

>> No.7730217

>>7730074
Bullshit, quake saturn sucks and the loading times are longer on cd than cart. Also it runs like shit and shame on you.

>> No.7730220

if n64 has no games then why do I own 80+ carts and why are they all better than your shitty anime jackoff galaga rip ofs?

>> No.7730223

>>7730217
>loading times are longer on cd than cart
On paper this is true, but in practice Quake 64 compresses all level data so every level has a "building" phase where it decompresses the level. I think Nintendo forbade them from using the word "loading." but it's essentially the same thing.

>> No.7730226

>>7729673
Did you reply to the wrong post?

>> No.7730228

>>7729690
It's too bad they were forced to make a hybrid console with the Switch, now you have both a crappy handheld and a crappy console.

>> No.7730229

>>7730223
the "loading" screen is barely 2 seconds long, fuck off.

>> No.7730235

>>7730229
It's loads slower than Sega Saturn Quake.

>> No.7730238

>>7730235
Doubtful, I own both versions, but just in case I'm remembering wrong, the saturn version sucks anyway and you should be ashamed for even mentioning it.

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7730242

>>7730229
It also:
1. has worse textures than the saturn version (significantly lower res)
2. has simpler level geometry (rooms are boxier, tapered ceilings are flat cubes, arches are removed entirely, etc.)
3. has much uglier clown puke lighting

>> No.7730251

>>7730242
You're joking, the saturn version is a pixelated mess of garbage which dithers the screen every time the camera is moved, the n64 version's lighting and color are way better as are the controls.

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7730257

>>7730251
the faces on the wall are even animated on the saturn lol

>> No.7730265

Has the complete PS1 version that was never released ever been found and dumped?

>> No.7730274

>>7730265
Some lobotomy thing have gotten leaked so maybe this will soon. It would be really exciting to play it.

>> No.7730278

>>7730274
the game is playable on 500 systems

>> No.7730279

>>7730278
I want to play the Playstation version

>> No.7730304

>>7730220
>rip ofs
>why do I own 80+ carts

It should be obvious.

>> No.7730350

>>7729532
Nintendo ended with SNES for me. The N64 might be built like a tank, has near-instant loading times, four controller ports is also a neat addition, but why this retarded design of a controller? Why cartridges that can't hold much data? Worst of all, they allowed all the best devs in the biz at the time to be siphoned by Sony that up to that point wasn't even thinking of its own video game console.

>> No.7730369

>>7730304
kill yourself typo noticer

>> No.7730382

>>7730114
This is your average, dissociative, schizo Sony post

>> No.7730467

>>7730215
Quantity sure, quality, not really. PSX had the JRPGs and MGS. Nintendo had better couch coop and versus games and the best action adventure game and platformer.

>> No.7730498

>>7730257
if you think Saturn Quake looks better than Quake 64, you are literally retarded.

>> No.7730501

>>7730467
One of each huh that's why it's called Arche noah64

>> No.7730578
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7730578

>>7730257
The Saturn version can't even render even squares. It's a mess.

>> No.7730613

>>7730578
Literally nowhere but /vr/ would you hear somebody making the argument that Saturn Quake is better than Quake 64. It has no terrible graphics, terrible controls, no multiplayer, it doesn't even run on the fucking Quake engine and the weapons are fucking sprites instead of 3D models, not to mention the absolutely retarded looking enemy models. What a fucking garbage port, I can't believe people suck this shit off.

>> No.7730623

>>7729532
>supports 4-player out of the box
still have to buy 3 other controllers

>> No.7730637
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7730637

>>7730613
It's had some ardent defenders ever since Digital Foundry uploaded a video about how it's a miracle of a port. I guess this is impressive by Saturn standards.

>> No.7730649

>>7729532
that controller was ass though

>> No.7730656

>>7730637
lmao, I hope any bystanders who see this thread watch this and see for themselves how shit this port that derailed the thread really is

>> No.7730659

>>7730210
had.
Now, besides OoT(which will soon be forgotten because of BotW), there is no other n64 appearing in any lists. Unless it's retro based ones, in that case you are also going to see a lot of ps1 games too.

>> No.7730662

>>7729532
Amazing how its strength(near-instant load times) is also its weakness(cartridges)

>> No.7730684

>>7730649
actually you were just bad at using it, probably due to small, feminine hands and weak wrists

>> No.7730687

>>7730662
>also its weakness(cartridges)
how is that a weakness? carts need to make a comeback. imagine what you could do with in-cart chips today with the technology we have.

fuck the late 90s kids so much for deciding the CD (now obsolete) was superior.

>> No.7730710

>>7730687
Because back then CD was the thing, cheaper and so on. Not my fault they went for that, mate. It was the N64 at that moment, so much a lot of dev jumped to PS1 because Sony was using CD.

>> No.7730753

the 64 was cool but it was a huge step down from the SNES in terms of games

>> No.7730775

>>7730753
by having better games than SNES?

>> No.7730785

>>7730775
most of the 64's games were cut-down 3D sequels to snes games, it's a party game console basically, hence it coming with 4 ports, great fun with friends but not much in the way of long-term singleplayer content outside of some collectathon platformers, which aren't really my thing

>> No.7730786

>>7730687
>how is that a weakness?
lower ROM sizes meant it couldn't hold FMVs, stream high quality music, had to have lower rez textures and other assets, and you couldn't have games spanning multiple carts like you could with discs.
also, CD games were less expensive.

>> No.7730789

>>7730687
Fuck no they don’t. N64 games were $10-$20 more expensive than PlayStation’s. And no they weren’t “worth it” you just had no choice but to buy cucked nintendie shit

>> No.7730987

25 years later and Snoys still absolutely seething about being BTFO by the Nintendo Gods.

>> No.7731014

>>7730786
Cartridges are a blank slate medium. My post was about how good cartridges could be today if we still used them, we don't have to be limited to the PCB of the nintendo 64 specifically, and that PCB could have been stronger even back then. The cool thing about cartridges even today is that chips could be added onto the PCBs, it was a flexible medium, you could do lots of cool tricks especially today with our technology where we have micro GPUs and godly amounts of RAM.

Also,
>and you couldn't have games spanning multiple carts like you could with discs.
That's not a good thing? This is done purely out of technical necessity, it's just as bad as the things that cartridges lacked out of necessity that you mentioned. The only benefit really is that it's more collectible in the future (but so are carts).

>>7730789
I never said anything about price. Who are you talking to?

>> No.7731065

>>7730789
>Fuck no they don’t. N64 games were $10-$20 more expensive than PlayStation’s. And no they weren’t “worth it” you just had no choice but to buy cucked nintendie shit
Depends. For the really top playstation games like Resident Evil or MGS probably not. Remembering 3d graphics were brand new at the time. On /vr/ we appreciate primitive graphics, but at the time they were hot shit, and most n64 games destroyed ps1 games graphically.

>> No.7731083

>>7729532
>barely had games in most genres
>completely missing several genres
>a butch to program for
>shit sound quality, washed out looking colors and blurry textures
I can go on, but I imagine this is falling on deaf ears.

>> No.7731092

>>7731083
It is, because you can't tell me it has no games when I own a shit ton of good games, retard.

>> No.7731106

>>7730637
>meme e-celeb youtuber
oh ffs, figures.

"DF Retro: Quake Sega Saturn Analysis - The Impossible Port"

At least the title is accurate!

>> No.7731116

>>7730687
You're talking about a fantasy scenario. Could carts do amazing things? Sure, but components cost money. So: more expensive games, more limited runs.
And even lookibgbat it from the perspective of simply being able to hold larger game files; you're shot down in flames because even off brand SD cards with larger storage sold at walmart have higher costs than disc based media.

Imagine something that costs literal cents on the manufacturing side being replaced with something that costs dollars instead. That increase gets passed on and multiplies at every level. So would you want to be spending $120 on one game because it's on a format you prefer?

>> No.7731123

>>7730687
>imagine what you could do with in-cart chips today with the technology we have
Not much. You do realize the Switch uses carts, right?
Making vidya carts with actual high-speed storage would also be enormously expensive which is why PS5 and SeXbox both have built-in fast storage instead of every game coming on their own NVMe stick.

>> No.7731125

>>7730710
CD also had a much higher space capacity, allowed better sound and video quality and multi disc games could be sold for the same price as a single disc game. A multi cart game would have cost twice, three times, four times as much. Depending on how many it called for.

>> No.7731127

>>7731123
>Not much. You do realize the Switch uses carts, right?
Who's gonna be the one to tell him?

>> No.7731146

>>7730775
Holy fucking shit, that cope.
So I suppose N64 had a Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid or Street Fighter 2 equivalent?
Saying N64 had better games than SNES is like saying PS5's library is better than PS1's. Its hilariously false and shows what a fucking simping nigger you are.

>> No.7731158

>>7730637
Doom for the SNES was more impressive.

>> No.7731219

>>7730987
BTFO? In what way?
>outsold N64 literally 6 to 1
>more influential new games and franchises that stood the test of time and influenced the 3 gens since then
>better sound and picture quality
>thousands of games, compared to the 300 or so N64 had
>more genres than just FPS, item collectathon, and third rate racers, unlike N64
>lasted for 10 years, compared to the N64's barely 5 year run
>literally 8 out of every 10 of the best games of that gen were either PSX exclusive, or started out there and got ported (badly) later
>most of SNES' best games either got ported to PSX or had literalnornspiritual successors for it that almost all were seen as good as the originals.
>no forced 3D, meaning companies could release whatever they wanted
>changed bad practices regarding licensing, allowed smaller teams and companies to get a foot in the door, unlike Nintendo, who still took huge cuts and prevented larger runs of a lot of games from being produced.
>had much larger games, as well as better sound quality, better textures, actual FMV and a much better controller as well.

So you fags had what? 5 or 6 halfway decent games, and now your 25 years of cope and denial later and you think you """""won"""""?

What the fuck are you smoking?

>> No.7731228

>>7731219
Pretty clear the N64 won when posts like this are still made 25 years later.

>> No.7731267

>>7729532
This guy make me cry ;_;

>> No.7731289

>>7731228
>posts like this
Yet we have threads like this still being made 25 years later. By that logic, Saturn was the real winner.

>> No.7731305

>muh sales
kek, every time a snoy fanboy starts losing an argument

>> No.7731329

>thousands of games, compared to the 300 or so N64 had

this is such a retarded point, stop saying shit like this, you're getting me triggered! fuck!!!

nobody had 100+ games back in the day you morons! most kids couldn't afford more than 5 games a year, if they even got that many; most were relegated to birthdays and christmas, they rented everything else. The library size is such a non point when realistically no kid ever had more than 15 for either console, and when the n64 kid's 15 games brought all the kids in the block to play sweet multiplayer goodness. All you're doing is proving every N64 kid right that the 64 had a much higher quality-shit ratio than then PS1. You're literally bragging about shovelware! eat shit and die.

>> No.7731338

>>7730637
Yeah I bet if we go cherry picking for clips in N64 games we can find spots where the frame rate gets pretty bad too. Funny thing is the Saturn Quake usually runs much better than that, only choking like that on the hardest difficulty in very specific spots.

>> No.7731351

>>7731338
it's not the framerate that i'm criticizing, it's the dithering of the pixelated textures. This is the perfect example of why smooth "blurry" N64 textures were the better option because these pixels easily become fucked up with too much movement and ironically end up even blurrier than the n64. Compare this to the smoothness of the N64 port.

>> No.7731356

>>7731329
>he didn't own at least 100 games for his consoles back in the day

lol poorfag

>> No.7731379

I think we can easily say that the N64 was not the greatest console of all time. This is coming from someone who exclusively played Nintendo up until the PS2 was released. The library is straight forward (Mario's, Zelda's, Kirby's) and pretty shallow once you've played everything. There's nothing even remotely interesting like Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy, Castlevania, Tekken, and Metal Gear Solid. It seemed like Playstation was ahead of the curve both philosophically and mechanically.

It's not to say that games on the N64 are bad, they just have no complexity to them. It's easy to be a masterpiece game when you just focus on the basics (not a bad thing). Don't get me wrong though, I still load up Super Mario 64 or Diddy Kong Racing any chance I get.

>> No.7731381

>>7731379
>parasite eve
>Final Fantasy
>Castlevania
>MGS
>any sort of complexity at all
Diddy Kong Racing has more depth than any of those.

>> No.7731382

>>7731351
Sure texture filtering is nice, but when the textures are so low res like they are on the N64 it ends up looking worse. An unfiltered but higher resolution texture would look better than the lower res heavily filtered one. Which is what we see when comparing PS1 and Saturn stuff to N64 stuff.

>> No.7731395

I’ve been playing my n64 a lot recently and have been consistently impressed by how many good games are on the system

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7731398

>>7731381

Do you actually play video games? The choices and progression in those games have so much more depth and weight than racing for balloons. Your thinking is flawed in that the mastered basics are still highly worth playing and absolutely fun, but that doesn't earn you the best console of all time.

>> No.7731404

>>7731398
>The choices and progression in those games have so much more depth and weight than racing for balloons
What choices? Those are some of the most linear and scripted games of that generation except for maybe Castlevania.

>> No.7731406

>>7729532
>The Nintendo 64 is the greatest console of all time

I'm a Nintenfag all the way, but that is just untrue.

>> No.7731412

I mean the N64 IS an amazing system, but come on now.

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7731417

>>7731382
>but when the textures are so low res like they are on the N64 it ends up looking worse.
I don't know if Quake is the best example for your argument. Comparing the PC version to the N64 version, the 64 version looks quite faithful. These graphics to me are smooth and pleasant to look at, while the lighting and coloring in some of the other levels add a charm that even the PC version lacks. Most games pull off the "low-res" look quite fine. Just look at the art that went into Banjo Kazooie despite being technically inferior to say, Spyro, which also has a sharp pixelated dithering problem.

>> No.7731421

>>7731404

What do you mean by linear and scripted? By your definition, any RPG or Action RPG could fall under this. How is going from race to race any less linear? You're literally blocked off from levels by balloon requirements.

>> No.7731424

>>7731421
>What do you mean by linear and scripted?
I mean the gameplay is literally selecting options from a DVD menu for two of them and the other is avoiding vision cones while sprinting to the next cutscene.

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>>7731424

My friend... I don't know what kind of person you are, but you've cut yourself off from pretty much every game in existence. Would you say old DOS text-based games were not "real games"? Would you even call Pokemon a "real game"?

>> No.7731431

>>7731428
>but you've cut yourself off from pretty much every game in existence
No just shitty movie games. Parasite Eve in particular is one of the most boring "games" I've ever played in my life.

>> No.7731434

>>7731417
If you do a split screen with Saturn in that same spot it will look pretty faithful too. It might actually look more faithful as the N64 version has reduced geometry and the textures aren't mapped properly in that spot.

>> No.7731443

>>7731431

And yet... people like these interesting stories, and somehow Super Meat Boy isn't the best game of all time even though it's a game with pure precise mechanics. There's more to gaming than just trying to force players to jump in the smallest window possible. Obviously, Parasite Even isn't just a slideshow even though it would be convenient for your argument.

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7731447

Let's not forget the real reason Playstation won:

>PSX
>supported by Namco, one of the greatest and most important arcade developers of all time

>N64
>supported by Seta, one of the shittiest and most irrelevant arcade developers of all time

>> No.7731449

>>7731443
>And yet... people like these interesting stories
People with no taste who will sit through hours of boring dialog and selecting the attack option from a DVD menu.

>> No.7731450

>>7731329
>nobody had 100+ games back in the day you morons
I did. Because my consoles were modded(only way of getting them here) and I could just download them(for ps1, that is) or buy them cheap(for n64).

>> No.7731464

>>7731329
Funny enough, you could get 10 kids and those having a ps1 would have a lot of different games and the n64 would have most of them being the same, because yeah, big library do matters.

>> No.7731468

>>7731449

>People with no taste who will sit through hours of boring dialog

Fuck.. I'm sorry. I didn't know you were autistic. If only developers could cater to your kind by removing dialog that is more than five words. I understand you probably have a hard time relating to narratives due to your condition. If only they made Parasite Eve and MGS SHUMP games with anime girls and bullet patterns that your brain would be able to easily recognize.

>> No.7731475

>>7731468
>If only developers could cater to your kind by removing dialog that is more than five words
Sadly they catered to the much less intelligent audience (you) by removing the gameplay instead.

>> No.7731547

>>7731158
Doom for SNES actually has the correct enemy/item spawns for different difficulty levels, Saturn Quake features the normal mode enemy/item placement exclusively regardless of difficulty.

>> No.7731636

>>7729532
I tried to play Pokemon Snap in every single recommended emulator on the wikia and all of them had the game running slow as fuck. Why is the n64 emulator still so bad? Either that or it requires a top tier computer now.

>> No.7732262

>>7731547
nobody care autist
saturn quake > quake64

>> No.7732295

>>7731636
>or it requires a top tier computer now.
I don't think that's it. They've performed consistently the same kind of bad throughout my past 3 computers over the last 16 years. I think it's probably something with the clocking.

N64 was just an awkward beast. Awkward to develop for, awkward to emulate all the different variations of voodoo different games did to get working on natural N64. And at this point I don't see that ever changing. Maybe with New Pokemon Snap some one will put the work into making it play better on one of these emulators.

>> No.7733497

>4 controllers
>smash bros
>mario party
>golden eye
>mario kart

if you had were a kid with friends this was the absolute shit

>> No.7733501

>>7731379
>no complexity
the system is designed for children what do you expect

>> No.7733746

>>7733501

That's what I'm saying. The N64 did an excellent job at what it was made for, but it isn't enough to earn it the best console.

>> No.7734650

>>7731434
Actually the Saturn port is the one with "reduced geometry" there were tons of walls added and segments removed to/from each level due to the Saturn having trouble rendering the game (which, arguably, it does anyway since it runs at 8fps most of the time). Quake 64 is not only more faithful to the original, but Saturn Quake isn't even Quake. It's the Slavedriver engine with vaguely Quake-like assets, whereas the N64 version is using a modified GL Quake engine base. The Saturn version struggled so badly in fact, they had to turn all of the 3D gun models into fucking sprites lmao. This is putting aside the obvious flaws like the warping and jitter that all PS1/Sat games have, not to mention the absolutely fucking terrible enemy models that all look like little green-tinged zombies, and the levels themselves which bare very little resemblance to the original game as they were all stripped down and approximated. Saturn Quake is a technical novelty but it is not a good game.

>> No.7734698

>>7731289
It was, though?

>> No.7734705
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>>7732262

>> No.7734709

>>7729532
I like the N64 but all the games are a blurry mess and they run at like 15fps average. In no way is it the best console because it simply isn’t very good at playing games.

>> No.7734710

>>7731464
And then all of those kids would become autistic loners because they all have completely different games for a system that was severely lacking in the multiplayer department. None of you snoys socialized and now you wonder why everyone ostracizes you when you bring up all these stupid autistic talking points about how the ps1 is better because muh music muh library muh game size.

>> No.7734798

>>7734710
None of this happens IRL you're actually just gay

>> No.7734807

>>7734705
best webm ive seen that actually demonstrates what the game is really like to play. what a piece of fucking shit.

>> No.7734817

>>7730226
did you?

>> No.7734829

>>7734798
honestly he's not wrong. i was lucky enough to have both consoles but wit the N64, it was almost like a brotherhood. you'd go over to your friend's house and he would have a few of the same games and you'd share secrets and info and compare your progress and bond over it. kids who never owned an N64 never had these experiences and they don't understand them. they don't know what it's like to play 4-player super smash or goldeneye with your buddies on a late night in 2000, or to sit in the dark by yourself and play ocarina of time for 6 hours straight only to spend another 6 hours talking about it with your friends. they think of game consoles almost like books, lonely little tinker toys that you use to pass the time, and they think their toys were the best time-wasters. what they don't realize is that the N64 wasn't a tinker toy, it was an experience, and it was so fucking cool that even the people who didn't own one can't stop talking about it 25 years later.

>> No.7734830

>>7734710
Did people really not have at least an n64 and a ps1 in the 90s? I had both that's how I realized the n64 is a massive piece of shit with no games.

>> No.7734832

>>7734830
>being this mad

>> No.7734848

>>7730498
that image proves Saturn looks better here.
>>7730578
Saturn version has the better soundtrack, controls and loads faster. It has other advantages but you Nintendrones will never listen.
>>7730775
>by having better games than SNES?
Nintendrone detected.

>> No.7734849

>>7734829
This is honestly a pretty gay way to think too. I can sit here and say the same exact shit about the ps1. Some of my best game memories from growing up: Staying up until who knows when playing round after round of Tekken 3 with my best friend. A birthday party where we were all going crazy over Marvel vs. Capcom and taking turns trying to get through Megaman X5. Seeing who could cause the most carnage in GTA2. Etc. Multiplayer is not a feature unique to the N64

>> No.7734857

>>7734830
> Did people really not have at least an n64 and a ps1 in the 90s? I had both that's how I realized the n64 is a massive piece of shit with no games.

Most people had one or the other because their parents weren't going to spend $500 in 1994-1997 dollars on video game consoles.

I had an N64, and in retrospect that was the right decision. Plenty of memories of having friends over for Goldeneye, WCW World tour, Perfect Dark, etc. PSX had a corner on the sports and fighter market, and those games are irrelevant today.

>> No.7734860

>>7734829
>honestly he's not wrong. i was lucky enough to have both consoles but wit the N64, it was almost like a brotherhood. you'd go over to your friend's house and he would have a few of the same games and you'd share secrets and info and compare your progress and bond over it. kids who never owned an N64 never had these experiences and they don't understand them. they don't know what it's like to play 4-player super smash or goldeneye with your buddies on a late night in 2000, or to sit in the dark by yourself and play ocarina of time for 6 hours straight only to spend another 6 hours talking about it with your friends. they think of game consoles almost like books, lonely little tinker toys that you use to pass the time, and they think their toys were the best time-wasters. what they don't realize is that the N64 wasn't a tinker toy, it was an experience, and it was so fucking cool that even the people who didn't own one can't stop talking about it 25 years later.

If we break down the PSX and N64 to the top tier games, they basically have the same amount of content.

What you missed with N64 was sports games and fighters.

>> No.7734863
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>>7734848
>controls and loads faster
The Saturn version controls absolutely abysmally and the loading times are both around 8 - 9 seconds.

>> No.7734969

>The Saturn version controls absolutely abysmally
They weren't on an analog pad.

>> No.7734980

>>7734860
Its not like the n64 didnt have shovelware too. Where the PS1 really triumphs is when you factor in that the N64 absolutely needs those 5 or so flagship titles to prop up any argument of it being the better library. Take away SM64, OOT, Goldeneye, and it's unrecognizable. The PS1 minus MGS, FF7, SOTN or w/e, there's probably people who never played any of those or dont have them as favorite titles and still prefer the PS1. It's not even a competition, the basedstation is and was better, period. The N64 is only more relevant if we're talking about what was the talk of the elementary school playground in 1999

>> No.7734993

>>7734830
Ps1 has lots of games
Lots of shitty games with constant load screens

>> No.7735019

>>7729532
>>with games like:
>lists 2 most famous and popular games
>by the 3rd item it's a choppy generic shooter nobody game that no one in their right mind plays today
absolute and hearty kek
This failed example list is the perfect microcosm of the N64's issue.

>> No.7735756

>>7729640
>Calling America 3rd world
Based.

>> No.7735759

>>7729640
The japs are autistic faggots with shitty taste in games.

>> No.7735863
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>>7734860
N64 has a few absolutely based sports game. Pic related is a better baseball game than anything on PlayStation. Also AKI wrasslin.

>> No.7736168

>>7735863
>sports games
big gay.

>> No.7736237
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>>7736168
You are wrong.

Also German guy is easily best guy.

>> No.7737174

>>7733497
Conker's Bad Fur Day's multiplayer was honestly better than these. The game was ironically worth it ONLY for that while the internet only knows about its single player.

>> No.7737179

>>7734817
No....your reply just doesn't make much sense as a response to pointing out the poor framerate of N64 games.

>> No.7737183

>>7730168
Because Pepe posters are never right.

>> No.7737192

>>7729640
>Japan know games better than 3rd world countries.
Nigga the Genesis would have failed if it weren't for the US.

>> No.7737216

>>7731329
Updoot.

>> No.7737414

>>7731329
>nobody had 100+ games back in the day you morons! most kids couldn't afford more than 5 games a year
So fucking what, retard?

>> No.7737475

>>7729532
>>supports 4-player out of the box, plug and play

did it come with 4 controllers tho?

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>>7736237
>Neo Turf Masters
My Nigga