/vr/ - Retro Games

diamondvision > trinitron

Was set to score a PVM for about $60 USD but some faggot had to bid war me hard so I let it go, feels like shit bros

>>7689276
Mitsubishi diamond pro > trinitron

>>7689279
find out who bought it and break his legs

>>7689378
The neckboard needed replacing so about half odds he gets turned into fried egg

damn anyone know what kind of PVM is this?

>>7689274
>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+Dreamcast)
imagine stomping your feet and whining because 6th gen is retro

>>7689516
looks like a microwave to me

>>7689274
That art is from what game?

/CRT/ general be like "how do I plug a nintendo switch into this?"

>>7689651
Can you?

>>7689525
I think it's just that nobody bothered to update the OP in eons

>>7689717
no but I can use it to monitor my heartbeat while playing senran kagura reflexions

>>7689279
Why don't you just go to the dump and pick one up for free?

>>7689942
Never seen a PVM in a dump round 'ere

>>7689942
Here it's literally illegal to pick shit from the dump. I tried to bribe a trashman for an amp motherfucker categorically refused.
Dumb faggot no one gives a shit if you give out shit if it ended up in the dump and you or the rest of you retards didn't notice it was worth anything no one would miss it. What's so precious about your job anyway ? Fuck'em

>>7690190
it's not their property and their decision to give out, moron.
lern2law

>>7690390
this guy is so loud and obnoxious on their livestreams that even with my volume all the way down he just powers right through it

>>7690390
>>7690759
He's on a bunch of DF streams and I hate him.

>>7690868
was tryin to sleep lasat night while listening to their livestream with coury playing 4k games at 240p, had the volume set super low so i could just barely hear coury talk but every time the other guy started talking it was like "BAM POW OW" and I would wake back up like wtf. Idk how he does that but its incredible, finally had to shut them off and switch to jim cornette

>>7690321
Why would the trash be someones property? There is no formal or informal contract to transfer it.

>>7691037
>he doesn't make his garbage man sign an NDA

>Dumping obese smelly trinatron at the dump
>Entire collection of CRT's down the ages there in perfectly untouched condition, including the three CRT pc monitors I had placed there some 2 months earlier

If these things are so valuable and worth having why are you guys not camping out recycling centres and municiple dumps for them?
In the UK at least its acceptable to take things from a dump, or at least no one will stop you

>>7691259
Because you're talking out of your arse if you sat 3 perfectly good monitors down to the tip to get go in a landfill instead of sticking them on gumtree for free and for the record, every tip I've ever been to has the binmen watching it like hawks for anyone trying to take stuff.

>>7690321
No one enforces it. He's being a faggot plain and simple. These niggers claim it's for environmental reasons. Explain to me how shredding that shit or letting it rot in the rain is better than me just giving the guy a twenty and carting it ?
>>7691259
Just posted about that. They don't let you take shit in some places. It 100% is dump dependent because it's technically the dump's property in most western countries. If the trashmen are assholes you don't get shit.

>>7691301
No, actually, I'm not, I put all three up for £20 each, then free, for 2 months, and go no bites, nobody wants these fucking things
Same thing with the trinitron, you get 16 year olds asking if they can have it then they ask if you can deliver it to them because they're 16 and don't have a car then they stop messaging you

Unless you live in londinigrad or somewhere equally overpopulated getting rid of these things is a nightmare

Hi /crt/, There's a deal going on for a 16" MAG Technology VGA 778 778PF-s at about $100, is that a good deal? I've been wanting a good starter screen to enjoy my retro on but I know jack diddly about the higher quality stuff like pvm

>>7691585

>>7691585
>>7691591
I don't know much about it, but if it looks good to you then I don't think $100 is out of line.

>>7691585
Dear god no.. people need to stop overpaying for crap CRTs. It's a run of the mill computer monitor that was made by the millions.

The person wants it gone because it's useless to him, and you shouldn't be paying anything more than $20 for it.

Just have some patience and you can pick up computer monitors like that for free.

>>7691585
>good starter
>31kHz crt

>>7691585
>$100+$110 shipping for a dogshit CRT from a literally who brand
why? fuck this seller and you should feel bad for asking too
don't use ebay to buy crts unless local pickup is an option
use craigslist, facebook marketplace, and similar sites instead

>>7691380
>guy working at dump lets some boomer buy a thing for $20
>get to his home and its broken or too dumb to figure it out, has a fuckin fit
>starts calling your boss or comes back to the dump while your boss is there and makes a scene
>boss asks why you selling things, awkward.jpg
better off to just take the thing, the person working there wont care or at least say you are using it for parts only. I once sold some really cheap computers for $20, the dumb boomers expected it to be brand new and would complain that they didn't know how to use office and wanted all this other free stuff.
A good way would be while throwing something away, sneakily take the thing you want and pretend it was always yours.
I don't agree with it but its why people don't like selling stuff.
Another thing would be someone buys a thing just to rip out the speakers or something and then they just dump the rest of it outside on the ground, then you get the blame for it.

>>7691689
Better than being thrown away.

stop replying to shitposters you fucking retards

>>7693016
This

>>7693016
is this offer still good?

>>7693069
shit, you saw the listing where I stole the image from?
no, I wouldn't recommend paying more than $20 for that retarded little screen

>>7693112
no, i mean the KFC ad. will i still get the chicken in that commercial for $2.99?

>>7693117
oh my bad
no, $2.99 only gets you a side dish now
what happened to the economy?

>>7693126
Inflation, increasing automation and wage stagnation, rising cost of living, financial elites sucking up all the wealth, etc.

>>7693126
>$2.99 only gets you a side dish now
I ordered a single breast and it was $3.99 tonight :(

>>7692694
The electronics pile is watched over by some yellow faggot 24/7. And I'll rather not be fucking banned from the dump and have to cart my garbage 50kms from where I live.
>>7693117
Anon asking the real questions

>>7691515
Can you deliver me a trinitron. I'll pay for Hermes shipping.

Only paid a tenner for this but despite being a literal who brand is actually really nice, the dedicated speakers on it are also good enough that I don't bother plugging it into my amp. Decent size screen as well.

>>7693802
i haven't seen both VHS and DVD built into a TV before. any chance this has component input?`

>>7693813
No unfortunately not, Just the composite on the front, and scart, rf, and audio out on the back.

>>7693819
scart's fine, i just didn't realize your place of dwelling.

>>7693823
Yeah just looked it up and you can do component through scart, would this yield better resolution for the ps2?

>>7693827
nah the resolution and quality is the same, just encoded differently. at least as far as it matters on a standard def TV.

>>7693829
Ah okay so no point buying one then.

>>7693835
you just mean a component to scart adapter, right? obviously you want a scart cable to get RGB out of the console.
also, if you did have an odd display that supported component over scart, you'd only have to change the PS2 setting, it sees scart and component cables as the same and just has a setting whether to output RGB or YPbPr.

>>7693126
Printing trillions in 12 months to combat the meme virus

>>7693837
I was looking at one of these
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gam3Gear-Mcbazel-Scart-Cable-Colour-Color-box/dp/B07HRQ81TY/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ps2+scart&qid=1619520973&sr=8-2
Am just wondering if their are any benefits to using RGB over the old yellow wire of component.

>>7693850
>Am just wondering if their are any benefits to using RGB over the old yellow wire of component.
drastically better picture quality.

>>7693854
Okay, well there we go lol, I'll order one. Thanks.

>>7693802

Same here. Never heard of this brand before, but when I found an Orion (13 inch) TV for free, I was also pleasantly surprised how good it actually was.

>>7694119
Yeah I've been really pleased with it, only got it by chance on Facebook marketplace to replace this piece of shit Daewoo combi that chewed up a tape and smells like ozone whenever you turn it on.

>>7689936
Can you speak english or is it just virgin flatfag from you?

>>7690190
You have to pay them. I have a recycle center that basically lets me explore their piles of electronics at my own free will and they'll charge me based off the weight on the scale. I'm anxious to go back as last time I passed on a Apple IIe.

>>7692186
Ebay has to be the worst place to buy CRTs, everything is overpriced.

>>7694137
Those daewoo combi's are pretty good apart and easy to repair, like 3 screws to take the entire tape mechanism off the board.

>>7694164
Oh really, I just gave up, what would cause that burning plastic ozone smell?

>>7694167
leaking caps or you bought it from a smoker and its full of soot, I once bought a 14" from a lorry driver who had it in his cabin for 10 years, had to take it entirely apart and dunk all of it in soap for like a week to get the smell of sweat out of it.

>>7694321
Pulled this out of the basement, the geometry is a touch wonky which bugs me in 2D games, but it’s great for early 3D stuff.

>>7694324
Those are some sexy phosphors.

Should I cop this Trinitron KV-28ws2u for £20?

>>7694338
Sure.

>>7694374
There's fags selling it on eBay for £350 so as long as I can get a lift to pick it up I'll get it, looks absolutely gargantuan.

>>7694338
wow

>>7694392
Yeah my free Toshiba goes for $200 on eBay. You'll need help putting it in a car.

>>7694447
Yeah I'll have a mate help, might be a struggle to even get it in the boot with that stand aswell.

>>7694575
Remember lad, lift with your knees and not your back.

>>7694338
>widescreen

got a pvm a week ago, rate my waterfalls

>>7694589
kek
>>7694590
What's wrong with widescreen?

>>7694590
>>7694601
>What's wrong with widescreen?
Virtually all retro stuff is in 4:3. 7th gen stuff might look really good on it though.

Question time.
I have an old mitsubishi CRT and a computer that is acumlating dust. Would I be able to emulate games and plug my computer to the CRT? I have a cable to output from my computer to the CRT (RCA). is it enough to cross into the realm of retro gaming or do I need any additional hardware?

>>7694795
>Would I be able to emulate games and plug my computer to the CRT?
yes but don't, it will look awful

>>7694797
what are my options then ? I read that with CRT emudriver I could be abel to do so.

>>7694804
I'd look for a vga monitor or buy one of those emulator consoles.

>>7694848
VGA monitor as in a PC CRT monitor with a VGA port? I thought they had different pattern compared to TV CRT.

>>7694894
Yes, they do, but you're emulating on a PC, so the only way that image looks close to decent is on a VGA monitor.

If you want to use your CRT and emulate, buy one of those $50 3-in-1 consoles and a rom cart.

>>7694795
>>7695086
Or for the very best experience buy the system you want, and a rom cart, saving money like emulating does but you get to have the real deal and on a crt, best of both worlds

>>7694795
depends, if your pc is old enough to have svideo output, or can do 15khz through vga, you just need to buy a cheap adapter and it will work mostly fine
if not, you have to get a downscaler, but that can either be pricey, look like shit, introduce a lot of latency or all three
>>7694894
yes for the most part, but it doesn't really matter unless you're an hyper autist
regardless, you can also find aperture grill monitors if you look hard enough

>>7694338
These are good but that specific range, a lot have a geometry problem after about 10 years in the top right hand corner is out of focus and sloped downwards, I've owned the 16", 24" and that 28" version its a common fault. You just need to get a magnet in the top right and epoxy it onto the back of the tube if it has the problem. I'd keep in mind one thing that looks like an old chap on the seat taking a picture, combined with the decor and that there's a freeview box on top of the tv, this tells me he's been using it as his main tv for the last 22 or so years, good model though.

>>7694158
It's different from dump to dump. The privately owned metal scrapper in my area collects neat shit and let's you buy it for a few buck. No crts there because little metal and because it's illegal. Town dumps are as jewish and bureaucratic as they come. And as I said that dumb faggot wouldn't let me buy shit.
>>7694338
Perfect for PS2 and GC go for it.
>>7694594
Not composite/10

>>7695216
Oh cool thanks for the insight, yeah my first thought was looks like my nans house lol, think its old boys son selling for him but yeah probably had a lot of use. Not picking it up till Saturday but will check for that.

>>7694338
>>7694590
That tv is great for old DVD

>>7695227
s-video is better than composite

Just picked this up a few hours ago, excited to set it up. 10$. The same I had years ago.

>>7695319
Nice find, I'm jelly.

>>7695494
>14"

>>7695494
Miz whatever Falls?

>>7695498
fairly sure that's a 9er

>rgb

Is the dandruff from my legs as bad for my CRT as the dandruff from my head?
I'm already wearing a hoodie and hat, do I need to replace all my shorts with pants as well?

>>7694804
I set up CRT Emudriver set up with a Trinitron, also have a CRT monitor, don't know what other anons are talking about it will look fine. It is a pain in the ass to set up though so yes a VGA monitor is easier to use and with the right settings can be made to output in 240p and modeswitch to 480p for 480i screens and filters can get it to look closer to a consumer set if that's what you are looking for

>>7695860
Actually it's way worse, double up on pant layers when in a room with your crt

>>7695860
>dandruff from my legs

>>7695868
>don't know what other anons are talking about it will look fine
sure it can work, but he can also fuck up and get something like this >>7682000

>>7695897
Yeah idk something in their set up is wrong or maybe they just have a terribly noisy signal but that's not how mine looks. I get a little bit of wavy noise which that TV kind of gives me on everything I input to it, but nothing that bad. I use a vga to scart cable through the DVI port on a Radeon HD 7800 ans into a Scart to Component Transcoder but the cable needs to be made for that purpose, not any old one will do and the guy I bought it from is no longer selling them afaik so you have to know how to make one yourself to do that method these days I guess. So yeah I get it it's a pain in the ass, probably more efforth than it is worth. But if you do it right can confirm it does not always look like shit. But I use my 31Khz monitor way more still for sure

>>7696024
>>7695897
A screenshot of Ape Escape on my Trinitron through CRT Emudriver

Anyone have pics of Super Metroid using Composite?

>>7693802
IIRC this is the offbrand of Toshiba tubes and uses many of the same components

>>7696024
like I said, it can work, but only under certain circumstances
mentioned some things that may work and some that may not in my post too
>I use a vga to scart cable through the DVI port on a Radeon HD 7800 ans into a Scart to Component Transcoder
nigga...

I don't really feel a need to go full RGB when S-video looks spectacular on my PVMeme

Please help /CRT/

Picked one of these up for £8 at a car boot sale and the guy said it was working

When I got home it turns out the power switch only works when pressed (same issue as the CM8833) so I held it in place with a straw and it worked fine for a few hours but then started making a snapping noise (sounded like arcing) and the image on the screen went away and came back while the arc happened

wasn't a continuous thing and was more sporadic, there was no smell like something was burning

Anybody got any ideas on what might be wrong?

It has a 12V input I could try as well as the 240v

I can solder and do have some experience in electronics repair but have never done a CRT before

I really wanted to keep this for my mega drive and I love the 80s look

Model number is 10CX 1120/05R and I have found an English service manual pdf online

Any help is appreciated

>>7696350
>I can solder and do have some experience in electronics repair

Install a 2 pin latching push button switch.

>>7696435
I think the switch is a little more complicated than that

Not sure if having the switch held down when I switch the set on at the mains is the cause of the arcing sound but I'd guess it is more serious

>>7695504
yup
>>7695498
>>7695642
its a 9"

Would picking up something like this be a waste of time? It looks kind of cool in the videos I've seen as a little portable telly, I assume meant for use in cars or caravans, but is it a complete piece of shit?

>>7694338
for some reason it makes me think the unit underneath is gonna collapse under the weight

>>7695498
14 inch is still at least playable

>>7697085
Sorry?

>>7697094
why are you sorry?

>>7695494
even my 14" feels really small and makes me want to get a 20. i can't even imagine squinting at this piece of shit

>>7689525
imagine giving a fuck others dont agree with your definition of a word no one can agree on the meaning of

>>7695304
>s-video is better than composite
not for most genesis games it isn't

>>7697162
Genny doesnt have s vid

>>7697073
dont bother with this piece of shit. just wait for something actually good to come along

>>7697073
>10"

>>7697164
it's a common mod

>>7689274
Canadafag here, how can I get a VGA CRT on the cheap?

>>7697302
Write an ad on the paper so an old man sells it to you for like 5 bucks.

>>7697334
That's one idea. Looks like I'll have to find a boomer who's still holding onto their old gear.

>>7697073
I actually really like the roadstar brand for a little telly, I've owned most of their models and I can tell you don't bother because the ctv 1020 has a funny quirk, its the only tv I've ever seen in my life wired to only accept rgb at 50hz, so if you want 60hz out of it, it's composite only, though let's be fair composite on 10" is fine, I used to use it to watch minder in my bed.
>>7697189
If you want a sub 14" tv roadstar is one of the brands in the uk that did it for caravans and such, they can run off leisure batteries, all of them being rebranded models known elsewhere like toshiba 10" vhs combi units but with scart added. They have one model in particular which was really good for it's day in like 2002-ish, dvd combi with a really fine pitch samsung tube in it.

>>7697615
Thanks for the info, I might just pick it up, I already have a decent 17" set for gaming and stuff, it's going cheap at £35 so I may just grab it, looks cool and comes with its box, looks virtually unused.

>>7697142
Pardon?

>>7697624
Np just usually ignore the larger units roadstar made, they came at the end of their life as a tv rebadger where they just rebadged any old crap like an alba 20". The small stuff they made used to actually cost quite a lot, any tv that ran off 12V did as it was a niche use like a caravan, the 10" trinitrons used to cost as much as their 20" versions.

>>7697334
>>7697349
Online markets aren't the be all end all people some people think. They are often a haven of scalpers who try to corner small markets. I tried to find a proprietary apple PSU once and I could not find a listing for less than 100$ over quite a bit of time on eBay and such, went to some random fleamarket and got one for like 5$ and learned they aren't the least bit uncommon and you can find them all the time in thriftstores.

A somewhat close CL has one of those top line MItsubishi 35 inch consoles I remember someone on here had as their dream TV a few months back, but sadly says it stopped working after being put in storage (doesn't turn on). But it's free, and the original owner still has the manual and they paid over $3k for it way back then.

Has to be one of the nicer console cabinet televisions, and among the largest:
https://nh.craigslist.org/zip/d/plymouth-mitsubishi-35-tv-model-ck-3531r/7296245346.html

If it worked, I would make the few 100 mile drive to get it myself.

>>7698263
Thing was so deluxe, it even comes with a second mini pen style remote.

>>7698263
The not turning on kind of fault is the easiest to fix because it means the fuse did it's job and since these are deluxe sets they're filled with them. Tracing faults is pretty easy because every circuit got it's fuse. If I wasn't piss scared of working on crts I probably would have took my chances.

So this question isn't video game related but hopefully you'll allow it. I have a CRT setup with several video game consoles. Occasionally I get the urge to also play 4:3 video content on the TV, like from a computer or maybe roku. Typically older anime & tokusatsu shows that just feel more at home on a CRT. Also at the complete opposite end of the spectrum there is the recent Synder cut of Justice League that is in 4:3, I mean you're kinda doing yourself a disservice by dropping down to the resolution of a CRT, but still it would be kinda neat. What kinda equipment would you need? I've already done a little research on this, perhaps a HDMI to VGA dongle like the HDFury to something an Extron VCS 500 or 700. That configuration would be kinda pricey but seems like it may yield the best quality, or maybe there is a simpler solution.

>>7697334
>>7698132
To all people that are starting to buy old hardware:
Do not buy online! Look for suff anywere else!

>>7698368
>maybe there is a simpler solution.
A ps3

Not retro :^)

>>7699031
>CRTs
>not retro

>>7699132
uh excuse me did you save that image before 2005? didn’t think so, not retro asshole

>>7699136
??

>>7699031
>>7699136
>>7698787
I meant to reply to the ps3 guy.

40 buckaroos worth for a 13 trannytron?
/marketplace/item/121500956606143/

>>7699507
I mean, not really but it's also not going to bankrupt you.

>>7699507
>13 inches
>no remote
>scratched as fuck
not worth it but it isn't something that is gonna keep you awake at night
try low balling the seller

>>7699507
No, and this >>7699541

>>7699571

>>13 inches
Objectively best 13" consumer set you can buy and component was standard on these. I would hold out and hunt for a 20FV300 though.

>>no remote
Ebay $5

>>7699507
Have you ever done a rorschach test?

>>7700158
no one is saying that the set is bad, just that it isn't worth $40 (+$5 for a remote I guess)
also the information on this image is kinda redundant, "uhhh they look good because... scan lines and native resolution! also rgb is sharp so use only that"

>>7700175
>just that it isn't worth $40
Subjective. 13" PVMemes aren't worth $300 but they sell for that daily.

>>7699541
>>7699571
>>7699654
i wasnt going to get it lol. not worth driving an hour plus round trip for a consoomer set

>>7700194
dude, equal or better trinitrons are given away for free all the time, unless this is literally your only option there is no reason to pay that much for one
>13" PVMemes aren't worth $300 but they sell for that daily.
retards will be retards, doesn't mean you have to
>>7700202
oh ok

speaking of the devil
marketplace/item/759867018055171

Any of you guys ever used/own a CRT projector?

>>7700610
Also local guy just offered a PVM-9220ME Trinitron for $100 AUD, good offer or not? Thing has no BNC/RGB afaik.

>>7700612
pvm for ants
since you're an aussie this is probably a once in a lifetime chance
lowball the seller

>>7700623
Yea I was thinking along those lines, worst case I can resell it on ebay to some poor dimwit anyways.

>>7700158
I prefer Component to RGB for most consoles because the YUV colour space tends to look more accurate on colours than the over saturated look of RGB

>>7700674
then your screen is shit

>>7700897
nah, RGB colour space is higher than YUV and often appear different than intended, which is why the NES has colour palettes for emulation

>>7700950
inane comment

San Jose anon looking to get rid of a 36" Toshiba 36A41. It has SLIGHT problems, namely a hissing sound from the speakers occasionally and some slight color distortion in the lower corners.

>>7700982
learn what inane means before you use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBhz9QCKFa4

>>7700674
/vr/, the place you come to get dumber

>>7701015
explain how I'm wrong then

>>7701020
If I explained how dumb you are, my first statement would be wrong. Lurk moar

>>7700950

>>7701040
>>7701043
boy am I glad you fags don't do any graphic work, not even understanding difference in colour spaces

>>7701075
>yuv
>graphic work
humor me

>>7700991
Sorry, I don't speak HUE.

This is a 9in and comes with the remote for $20. I've got a ps2, gc, dc, and n64. Is this worth it? I normally just use a composite to hdmi converter to play since my family got rid of our crts many years ago.

>>7701101
Neither do I, you can see the colours on the screens though

>>7701110
For $20 grab it and see if you like it, use it until something better comes along and you can sell it for what you paid or maybe more.

>>7701183
I might be able to negotiate down to $10 or so. Honestly price isn't much of a deal to me. I'm just unsure if it's worth using over my current setup. This only has composite and rf inputs, will I still be getting a better image quality?

Anyone know anything about either of these?
They’re apparently 60cm

>>7701283
They’re the only pictures they had so I don’t know what connections they’d have, and they’re Australian

>>7701283
Go with the curved Trinitron. The flat one is an HD set, so 240p content will be fucked up. The curved one will also not have fucked up Geometry, and may likely have component in, at the very least S-Video.

If you want an HD CRT for 480p or PS3 gaming, then get both, but definitely get the curved set, AND the respective entertainment centers, because this shit is heavy and needs something to stand on

>>7701309
Considering they just want to get rid of them I may get them both, it’s just that it’s a few hours away so I wanna know if it’s a waste of a trip

>>7701309
>and may likely have component in, at the very least S-Video
>"they're Australian"

>>7701201
I used composite for ages and I think it actually looks decent, rf sucks hard and sometimes it won't even tune, I had an Atari JR and I just could never get all the noise of the screen. Composite is perfectly serviceable and worth it for a $10-$20 bit of fun, get a feel for crt etc.

>>7698287
Big CRTs like this are easier to work on. The stuff that will shock you is less congested and you have more room to work.

You can stick your bare ass hand in there and yank a yoke all damn day, no problem. And you won't need finesse to test the fuses.

>>7701323
Yeah this was why I was asking I already have a cheap kmart one with component that’s 20” so if it has that or SCART I’d get them, if not I won’t bother

>>7701323
Oh the Aussies also had PAL? Sucks, mate, those sets could have actually been good. It's possible the Trinitron still supports PAL60.

Pvmeme 2130

>>7695319
Good tube
I have Sony e250, 17" Trinitron tube, excellent for VGA signals.
Only downside is two thin lines in front of the screen for supporting aperture grille. But only noticeable if you sit right in front of it.

>>7696030
>>7695868
>>7694804

Why does the whole 'using a PC for 240p CRT gaming' thing has to be so goddamn hard or limiting for people who want to play more than just retro games on TV?

i want to have a 2 screen setup (2 29'' inch screens, one CRT and one LCD), but i simply cannot have component/240p output in the CRT unless i buy an oldschool radeon card, which wont let me run newer games or arcade dumps like Project Diva and/or buy a ridiculously expensive/hard to find HDMI2Component transcoder thingy and probably make a 750$ PC rig to be able to use an Nvidia and a Radeon card because the power source of the office PC simply is not gonna let me do it. i can do 2 screens, but i can only connect the CRT thru RCA cable. i cant even use S-Video!

i just want to play retrogames in my PC in my bigass TV as best as possible dammit.

>>7701317
they're heavy, so bring a mate unless you're hulk

>>7690179
yea same here. I've literally never seen one in the wild. I'm about to start contacting tv stations and churches but most probably haven't used them in 15 years now. I just pulled the trigger on a 20N6U for $400 total shipped. Just fucking kill me.

>>7701413
Yeah I have something similar going on where I have an Nvidia card for more modern gaming and it seems as long as I keep one of the displays using it up my applications can use the power from it while letting me display on my CRT via the other card

>>7701183
>>7701330
Alright I picked it up. He held firm on $20. It's actually a really nice size and it works fine. I noticed there's a small scratch on the bottom of the screen. Is there any way to try and repair it? Other than that it just needs a good clean. I also noticed that these go for nearly $200 on ebay, which is insane.

>>7701330
>>7701110
>>7701201
Personally I don't care for composite, and would hold out for s-video and component.

>>7690179
A bum hid them somewhere and is selling them on eBay to buy crack.

>>7701462
I think you got hosed anon, the $400 can't be worth it. I mean I paid $600 to get a couple of already modded Sega consoles, so I understand, but yeesh.

>>7701413
2 suggestions:
There have been successes where people use a cheap hdmi-vga and successfully output 240p through that. This removes the need for an old video card. Alternatively, you could buy a relatively recent card (up to geforce 970) for native vga output which is also easy to get 240p from.

Another, easier choice is a raspberry pi

>>7701785
Just live with it. Looks like it could stand to be cleaned. I recommend using 1 part windex to 8 parts water.

>>7701413
>but i simply cannot have component/240p output in the CRT unless i buy an oldschool radeon card

gbs control, tv one corio and super emotia boxes can all do it as well, no need for a radeon gpu

>>7701816

tbf, it is not that i havent thought about those alternatives, tho those come with their own bullshit too...

about #1? guess that would be the best choice, in fact i have a vga monitor and a HDMI2VGA converter and the tests i had so far are pretty decent. tho my problem there is the size, the biggest i can get is 17'' from all the used stuff listings i have seen (i have a 15'') and well, it is a bit frustrating when the original plan was to use a screen double the size than that.

Also, i had a lot of troubles setting up the custom resolutions and dynamic CRT switchres, or is the monitor that doesnt support the resolutions be it from the nvidia setup or CRU, or is the card.

and the option #2? funny enough, thats the reason i started my research, My brother bought a whole Raspi set for 240p, including the RGB-Pi adapter and a Retrotink SCART2Component adapter since the RGB-Pi is SCART only. and it even works on my CRT, so yeah, that could be an option. but i already invested around $6000+ pesos in the PC, so spending around 8000-10000 into a raspi 4, the RGB-Pi and the Retrotink? not a nice prospect there.

>>7701862
>>7701862
>My brother bought a whole Raspi set for 240p, including the RGB-Pi adapter and a Retrotink SCART2Component adapter since the RGB-Pi is SCART only.

>>7701814
well the seller is jacking around with the shipping now so it's probably gonna fall through. I have literal stacks of NES, genesis, playstation, etc consoles in my attic from just thrifting and ebay over the last few decades, but I do understand the white whale mentality. I should just mod them all and dump them if people want really custom shit. What mods did the sega stuff have?

i've been doing CRT related repairs for about 8 years now so I'm trying to find broken ones that might be fixable. There's "my old guest room tv power button doesn't work" brokn and "broadcast hardware beaten to shit broken". At this point, I should just give up and get some of the flat screen scaler solutions. I'm not terribly interested in muh PVM but it's nice to have something that does RGB for my MSX2+ and x68000. I really only have one monitor that can do that and it might shit the bed eventually.

>>7701862
just get one of these, dumbass

https://castlemaniagames.com/products/retrotink-ultimate-digital-to-analog-converter-for-the-raspberry-pi

>>7701908
>MSX2+ and x68000

are those 24khz monitors?

>>7701918
it's a spectrum for every jap home computer. pc 9801 is the only one with mostly 24khz software
x68000 can do 15, 24, and 31khz analog (most software is 15khz and 24khz OR 31hz)
pc8801, 6001, 8001, X1, Sharp MZ(?) is 15khz digital
pc 8801 might have some 24khz software
X1 Z Turbo is 15hz analog or digital
MSX et. al.is 15khz analog with a few having 15hz digital.
FM Towns is 15, 24, 31.
I don't have monitors that can do all 3. Some japanese NEC and Sony "pc tv" type monitors can do literally everything but you're looking at $400 + Domestic shipping + International shipping + VAT

It's pretty much the CVBS, EGA, CGA, RGBI, RGBS, VGA fiasco except there's hardware that can do multiple standards.

I have a few 24khz monitors already. I really shouldn't have sat on the PVMEME thing. i just always had alternatives now these things are expensive as fuck so people can play fucking donkey kong country and and take pictures of sonic waterfalls on them lmao.

>>7701819
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to disassemble the plastic and wash it with a soap and brush. I'll use the windex solution for the screen.

Has anyone tried one of these windshield repair kits to fix a chipped or scratched crt? I can't seem to find any results of someone trying this online

>>7701908
>What mods did the sega stuff have?
The Saturn came with Pseudo Saturn already on it so it could play burnt discs. The Dreamcast was a full GDEMU/ODE mod. Worth it for me since I didn't want to deal with disc swapping (you don't need to do this anymore) or soldering.

I’d like a 4:3 Trinitron with composite, svideo, and component input and good geometry, which model do I want?

>>7691380
It's probably because they get paid by the government per pound of trash they dispose of in some places.

>>7702165
no need for component if you have s video and want a curved trinitron, if you are cool with flat crts then you can find ones with component

There are some NTSC curved trinitrons with component but they are uber rare

>>7702369
>no need for component if you have s video
Wut?

>>7702043
Yup a few times. They tend to hold for about 1 or 2 years. Last time mine fell off, I took it to a local glass place and they fixed it in 10 mins for free

Anyone know where I can get the Sam's Photofacts for free? I want the service manual for the Magnavox PR1914C121

>>7703096
S-video looks almost as good.

>>7703261
Awesome I'll look into this then, thanks!

>>7703096
i fell for the rgb meme and trust me, unless you can get supernice monitors for dirt cheap it simply isn't worth it. Composite is generally fine for a crt, if you are feeding to an upscaler then yeah go for rgb or component to your OSSC or framemeister but otherwise there is no need to fret over it.

>>7703364
I don't know, composite always looks washed out to me.

>>7703414
Yea this, desu minimal input for not looking completely ass is S-Video with Component being ideal unless you have a CRT with BNC or RGB Scart.

>>7703414
on which console? genesis had bad composite video but the n64 and nes really dont look that bad with composite

>>7703502
my dreamcast looks like garbage, i need a vga to component adapter

>>7703565
do u want to do 480p on a crt or send it to an HD flatscreen? Either way the akura box or a toro box should be perfect

>>7703364
>composite
no ones talking about composite though, we're talking about component

>>7703582
I bought a $7 converter, I'll see how that looks first.

>>7701113
do you know what else you can do with the colors on the screens?
adjust them

>>7702165
you want whichever model you find on craigslist or faceboot.
you don't pick a model and look for it, you take what you can get.
for better geometry you want a curved screen.

>>7701309
so looking up the LG, it seems to only do 480i/576i but does up to 100 so I don't think it's a HD set and the trinitron only has composite but I guess I could try RGB mod it

>>7703825
up to 100hz*

>Panasonic CRT
>100hz Super Digital Scan
>Digital Scan
>Digital

...Guys, I'm not loving that line right there that's printed on my set. Does this mean it's frame buffering and I'm getting extra lag?

>>7703604
we are talking about both.....

>>7703658
link it lol

>>7703873
yes, also lightguns won't work and it will turn your 240p content into 480i
its still fine for movies and 6th gen shit (or even newer) but you should have done your research anon
then again, if it hasn't bothered you yet then I guess you can just live with it

>>7703942
component is not RGB

>>7703954
who said it was?

>>7703983
>no need for component if you have s video
>Wut?
>i fell for the rgb meme and trust me, unless you can get supernice monitors for dirt cheap it simply isn't worth it

>>7704007
I fail to see anything in that greentext that states that rgb and component are the same thing

>>7703942
>link it lol
this one

>>7704138
how exactly will this interface with the dreamcast without something like pic related? also that likely wont work even with somehting like pic related, you really need something like pic related PLUS:

https://www.retrotink.com/product-page/rgb2comp

>>7704217
>how exactly will this interface with the dreamcast without something like pic related?
Dreamcast supports VGA out natively. All I need to do is convert it to component - of course I already have a Dreamcast VGA cable.

>>7704232
that won't convert it to component lol, it will just change the shape of the connection, you need to modify the sync with something like pic related

>>7695319
I had that exact same monitor as a kid, nice find

>>7704238
oh lel

>>7703326
lolno

Picked this Sony KVG14S1 for free from some rich foreign guy. Looks amazing despite it being stored in a shed.

>>7704642
>judging a screen before using 240p-suite
ngmi

What are the max acceptable cable lengths for analog video? VGA and RGB SCART specifically
I'm looking to use a scart distributor to split the video to a CRT TV and a GBS-C scaler which has two VGA outputs one of which is converted to HDMI and the other is hooked up to a PC CRT

>>7705524
the shorter the better
the more shielding the better

>>7705524
https://www.sustema.com/post/vga-cable-maximum-length

>>7705524
>>7705767
With analog signals cable length and QUALITY matters!
With the shorter the cable the more vibrant colors/contrast depth/brightness and less noise you will get, this gets even more true with the higher quality of cable you use.
A high quality RF will look about the same as composite RCA, a high quality composite cable will look close to s-video in color and brightness while still retaining some of it's coveted artifacts.

Is PS2 HDMI cable a good deal?

>>7707153
lolno

>>7705524
>>7705767
I have an RGB cable that's the thickness of a garden hose. Each of the R,G,B,H, and V channels are carried on a full size coax cable so an incredible amount of shielding and bandwidth, low signal loss.

20 feet of this stuff, Belden 7712a, from Blue Jeans cable terminated with BNC is around $300.

I got a great deal when my one showed up as new stock leftover from an installation on eBay and only paid $40 (mines more than 20ft as well, probably cost more toward $500 range).

For long runs, this is the cable. It's so heavy you do not let it hang off anything or it would probably pull off the connector, and it doesn't make tight turns.

So what are some alternatives for buying this crap that isnt craigslist, Ebay, or facebook?

>>7708974
Try a pawn shop or Goodwill type store.

>>7708974
>>7709003
The curb works well enough as well, I got my Toshiba Blackstripe in front of the original owners house with a "free working" sign on it. Don't think a pawn would even take a tube tv at this point and some of those goodwill places won't - and they are probably behind the curve on recognizing the few valuable meme CRTs like pvm or computer monitors.

>>7709012
>The curb works well enough as well
I saved a 36" JVC D-Series from the dumpster recently. If I didn't already have a bunch of pro monitors, I would probably keep it.

anyone in the rochester,ny area. theres a samsung 997df for 25 buckaroos
/marketplace/item/170835091602893/

Are there any good consumer TVs that are not too big but are good enough for PS2/NGC

>>7709028
Nice find.

>>7709281
no, none exist, I'm very sorry

>>7702369
>>7703364
Stfu you cancer.
Nobody gives a fuck about your opinions.

>>7709849
umad

Here's a small update on my 9in trinitron. Took it apart and gave it all a good clean. I was reading into possibly rgb modding it or adding s-video but ultimately I decided it wasn't worth the trouble. I also don't have any s-video cables for any of my consoles anyway. I'll post again once I get it back together and set up.

Currently have a Trinitron WEGA KV-27FV300 and could get a free Trinitron KV-35V68. Can't find much on the KV-35 tv, only upgrade would really be for size it seems but I wanted to see if there were any other opinions on switching the 27 out for the 35 before I just let the 35 go and stick with what I have.

>>7710843
>27FV300

You literally have one of the best consumer grade TV's there is to play retrogames on. The KV-35V68 is a good set but it's not even in the same league as a XXFV300/310.

>>7711007
Wrong. You couldn't tell them apart.

>>7711007
Figured as much since a FV310 seems to be the only real direct upgrade for my FV300 outside of going for a PVM/BVM. If I had the space I'd probably set it up to be the thing I watch tapes on but fuck moving the KV-35 just to store it for a couple of years.

>>7711007
>You couldn't tell them apart.

>>7711045
>You couldn't tell them apart.

>>7711007
The fv3x0 isn't that amazing, picture quality is about on par with any other sd wega. It should be a tad sharper than an older set though.

>sound only coming out of one speaker
fuck
>bump the cords opening glass window
>sound coming out of both speakers
oh my
>check male jack
>clean and shiny
so how the fuck do you clean the female jack?

>>7711491
deoxit

>>7711503
>google
>applicator
>straw spray
>even a special pipe cleaner
thanks.

>>7711491
deoxit and some inserting/uninserting. people will get mad but wd40 is basically the same thing
but there's a good chance your problem inside the cable

>>7711491
WD40
Pipe cleaner
microfiber cloth
pinch the end of the pipe cleaner tho before JAM IT IN

>>7711475
FV300 have unique and better power circuitry than other SD Wegas, leads to a better grey scale balance and color uniformity. Been proven years ago.

>>7711475

FV300 have unique and better power circuitry than other SD Wegas, leads to a better grey scale balance and color uniformity. Been proven years ago. The 310 as the HVR added, otherwise they are the same.

They can achieve < 0.5 Delta E @ 105 nits across the entire grey scale when properly calibrated. Extremely rare for a consumer set.

Can one of you boomers explain to me what picrel does? It says commodore 904778-01 on it. I came across an old television with one of these on it.

>>7712879
It's a switch. It's made so that you have to disconnect the antenna every time you use your console or c64 computer.
That one has a manual switch. IIRC there are also some that switch automatically.

>>7712919
Thanks anon. One more question. The tv I found doesn't have any inputs. No coaxial no nothing. Is it still possible to use digital converter box with it? Everything I find online seems to sugest it needs at least RF. I dont have a tv so it would be nice to get the weather and local news.

>>7712946
>The tv I found doesn't have any inputs. No coaxial no nothing.
What does it have?

>>7712946
you can still use rf wirelessly

>>7712919
>you have to disconnect the antenna
You don't have to disconnect the antenna, I mean.

>>7712951
only antenna, UHF/VHF. I was thinking using something like this converter which I will link below. I would run a coaxial cable from the converter to the converter box. Do you think this would work?

>https://www.amazon.com/Fancasee-Matching-Transformer-Converter-Connector/dp/B07BW9YS4Q/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Antenna+Connector&qid=1619978281&sr=8-3

>>7712960
If the digital converter box outputs a 75 Ohm RF signal on an coaxial connector it should work.

>>7712978
Thanks, im going to try it.

What is the ideal modern way of interfacing with a CRT from a computer? analog DisplayPort? analog DVI?

>>7713459
Also wondering this
You could also insert an old graphics card and use the analog into it.

>>7690190
Back when I did graffiti I tried taking some spray paint from the dump. There were piles of them. Bitch ran out of the trailer and screamed at me over it. Like, I didn't even know you werent supposed to take it.

>>7700218
i have been stalking craigslist constantly for pvms for almost 7 years and have seen zero go up for sale anywhere in my state. i dont understand why people constantly make this claim that these are easy to get for cheap. i would rather just pay a small price of 150 and just buy one from a reseller and use it today than wait for a century until i can get a deal.

Hey there.

So I have a Panasonic TX68X02A and it has some slight distortion issues but I can't find how to access the service menu anywhere. Anyone know how?

>>7713989

maybe one of these TV ones? https://factory-reset.com/wiki/Panasonic_Service_Menu

>>7714081
I tried those and they didn't work. Even tried different buttons while holding VOL- on the TV but didn't find a service menu. I did find the combination to factory reset the TV though so holding VOL- does seem to activate some hidden features.

>>7713459
>>7713465
Getting a graphics card with vga (or dvi-a) output, then using custom modelines to output 240p rgbs, then considering that signal as needed. With a vga to bnc breakout cable you can plug into any pvm directly

>>7713989
Get that cord out from beneath the leg of the table, you barbarian.

>>7715236
I already noticed it and got it out. It would have bothered me too had I noticed it sooner.

>>7715245
Ah, cool. Comfy photo otherwise, though :)

>>7714309

https://www.servicetv.org/laboratorio/panasonic/panasonic_ctv_service_access_cod.htm one of these perhaps? They probably all share a common service menu shortcut its just knowing wtf it is.

anyone know if Panasonics are good?

>>7715879
I can't find anything on it

>>7693802
Orion made car audio too

>>7715879
Yes

>>7715879
Looks decent from what I can find though you are limited to composite video as far as I can tell.

>>7715660
I tried all of them but none of them seemed to work. I tried every combination of button presses I could think of from holding VOL- and pressing the button to holding the button then pressing VOL-. Nothing. I even tried with every button on the remote after changing the sound settings but still nothing.

Thanks for the help anyway.

>>7712398
You can probably do that on any wega. D-series can do this from the fucking factory. Big whoop

>>7715963
I think it might have s-video which is pretty rare for an Australian CRT, I just wonder if I can add scart to it

>>7710701
Alright I finished cleaning and assembling it. Turned out really nice. The size is great and I love that I can just pull it out and quickly set it up whenever I want to play older games.

>>7716404
happy for you anon

>>7716404
SOUL

>>7715879
Imo along with Philips after the sacred triumvirate

>>7694594
>no transparency effect
Garbage

>>7701413
PC stuff is driven by far different standards than home consoles and regular televisions. The only real solution is to build a computer using period accurate parts, besides that just deal with what you can do.

>>7696350
Either he funded you over or something got conjiggered when you drove it home. Either way its your fault.

Thinking of picking up this 27" trinitron + stand. the seller is asking $80, im guessing its composite/RF only? seems kind of high but i never seen CRTs at the thrift stores around my house or work so im getting desperate

>>7716050
>D-series can do this from the fucking factory.

>>7716448
>the sacred triumvirate

and that would be?

>>7717482
It probably has s-video, which is good.

Found this KV-32XBR200 on the side of the road. Image quality looks pretty good other than some geometry issues, gonna mess around in the service mode and see if I can make it better.

>>7718503
Wow, I would have sworn that's an hd model but I see scanlines there. Great find, probably the highest quality SD consumer tube they ever put out

>>7718503
I dunno if I could handle those cracks and scratches all over the top

>>7718562
I don't think I'd notice after 5 minutes of playing something.

>>7718521
was it a coincidence that all the "best consumer sets ever made" were all posted in this thread or is this some shitty forced meme

>>7717753
Maybe he means Sony, Sharp and Mitsubishi?
I dunno

So I’m going to recap my old set because it has ghosting similar to pic related, it happens on all channels and menus so it’s not the cables

>>7718683
probably sony, jvc and toshiba

>>7718759
Didn’t realise JVC’s were that good

>>7717753
>>7718683
>>7718759
For commercial CRTs the best are Bang & Olufsen, Sony and Loewe. Then you have Philips Match Line, JVC D-series, Panasonic, Toshiba, also with a good image quality for retro.

>>7718994
Are B&O actually good?
I always thought they were good for their design over picture quality

Does anyone know if this monitor comes with coleslaw?

>>7715879
can't go wrong with a matsushita

>>7719040
Unfortunately someone else picked it up

>>7718994
>B&O
>Loewe
more like, you wanna stay as far away as they're overhyped DeSiGn and image processing city

>>7717482
Looks like a beauty, buy it.

>>7713973
There are many things produced in magnitudes smaller volumes that aren't as pricey or hard to find and that have an even higher demand. People aren't particularly enthusiastic about handling and even risking and shipping very heavy glass items like this which leads to a dearth of sellers.

>>7719019
Too old

Got my first pvm the other day cause I wanted something small to sit on my desk and honestly, rgb really doesnt look that much better than s-video. I'm probably not going to get the rgb cables for the rest of my consoles, I only got one for my genesis cause that one seems to actually benefit since the model 1 only has rf and composite. I've been playing on a consumer sony for like 2 decades with s video and I really just don't see what the big deal with rgb is so far. The best thing about the pvms is the video out passthrough, it makes it so easy to capture video for a capture card and it doesnt degrade the signal either, before I had to use these multi out s-video/composite boosters and they introduce noise which sucks.

tldr the best thing about the pvm so far is the form factor and video outs for each input

>>7721248
I think one of the reasons people freak out with rgb so much because they go from composite on the genesis to rgb and that jump is huge because the genesis composite is like especially bad

>>7721248
>>7721261
can you get s-video switches and do they degrade the quality of the image very much?

>>7721273
Yeah they always seem to apply a checkerboard pattern, even tried an extron media presenter switch once and I'd get the pattern, it's not really a problem if you're just playing the game but when capturing it bothered me enough to plug it directly into the capture card

>>7719076
None of the B&O MX series have image processing that can't be turned off afaik.

>>7701785
Lmao one of those? I broke mine trying to make it into an oscilloscope...cost me like 2 bucks. U were ripped off m8

>>7718521
>the highest quality SD consumer tube they ever put out

It's good, but wouldn't go that far. It was the first generation FD Trinitron released in late 1998 before they started refining them.

Need to tweak the picture a bit but just got a new CRT monitor

I might be listing this beauty for a kilo of cocaine and a firstborn.
Only hurdle is packing this thing if I need to ship it

>>7721585
$18 doesn't really concern me much. For how much enjoyment I'm getting out of it I think it's well worth it. I've been looking into it, and I think I actually will try and do an s-video mod. Seems like it'll be a big improvement over composite and it doesn't involve too many alterations.

>the nearest crt available is a 25" trinitron
>40 fucking bucks
how the fuck do i haggle it down?

>>7722337
use nerd babble to tell the seller that the set sucks and that they should feel ashamed for asking that much for it, works 80% of the time

>>7694162
Anyone who uses the words “vintage” or “retro” in their listing is a retard overvaluing what they have every time.

>>7722337
make fake email accounts and lowball the shit out of him

>>7693016
I can probably play this game everyday

>>7721248
>Got my first pvm the other day cause I wanted something small to sit on my desk
>and honestly, rgb really doesnt look that much better than s-video.
how about you get a screen in a proper size before you make general statements like this

>>7694162
Normal people who don't use bots for bidding no longer use eBay or such. It's just resellers selling to other resellers.

>>7689274
Is messing around with ATI cards and CRT Emudriver worth it? Also, from what i understand, the PC will output a 31 Khz signal while booting the bios and maybe Windows itself despite the driver, can this hurt the CRT in any way? Thanks.

Any advice on finding a PVM-20L5? I've probably spent two hours searching online for one each day since start of April. It's an unhealthy obsession that wont be sated.
Some have been posted on eBay, but they were damaged.
I've seen two through Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist, but both of them had some awful geometry. Also, they were in California, and I'm in Western Australia.
I've tried BroadcastStore, but they've been absolutely useless and are possibly running a scam.
I'm not worried about cost, I just need to find one that is in good condition, works properly, and is being sold by someone who would crate and ship it internationally.
Hell, got one to sell? I'll buy it for $2500 - $2800 USD.

>>7723021
Buy the junkyard and dig through it.

>>7722876
It's definitely worth it and you can boot into 15khz. It's cool to be able to play games with higher internal res in 480i for 3d shit and then run ahead makes most 2d consoles better than any emulation method aside from mister. 480i can be a bit harsh if you use the newest version since there's no flicker filter, but you can download an older version that has it.

>>7722865
you can still find deals on ebay. Find listings with "best offer" options and offer what is, now, a good price on something. A crt in decent condition depending on features, year, rarity can cost $100-300. That's just the world we live in now. I hate it but it's not like I can walk down to the "big ole hump back television store" and have my pick. I still prowl all the thrift stores and local listings but there's not much out there.

>>7723318
lmao i've seen what are allegedly premium brand CRTs new in box sit in thrift stores for months until the staff remove them to free up space.

>>7723406
My theory why people sell them for lots of money on the internet is that people generally aren't enthusiastic about handling and shipping 50-100 lbs of Glassware.

Opinions on a 28” Grundig?
Too big or should I snap that up

>>7723197
>you can boot into 15khz

using atom15 right?

>>7723479
>Grundig
You made that up or it's a Tolkien creature.

>>7723516
I’ll let you know if I can pick it up tomorrow if it exists

>items goes from 10$ to 10k$ in a year
Totally natural price development guys, i'm totally not buying up all the sales in this small market using a bot and reselling them.

>>7723516
>posts in /crt/
>doesn't know Grundig
zoomers NEED to leave.

>>7722131
Wow, now you can emulate just like a shitty lcd

>>7723491
No you just set the resolution in Windows and it boots to it.

>>7722131
might be the picture but this doesn't look right, you should do the superwide modeline method+interlacing method

how much does Retrogamingcables-uk take to restock supplies? i need a PlayStation 2 PS2 RGB SCART

>>7713973
>up for sale
That's your problem right there, if you offer to take it off their hands for free they won't think you are an insane homeless serial killer or autist that collects "box tvs"

>>7723980
ok i will start looking for listings of tvs NOT FOR SALE

>>7723673
Grundig is a European brand and nobody gives a shit about European brands outside of Europe. You think the average /vr/ poster knows about Philips matchline, bang and olufsen, or other European exclusive shit? People on this board hardly fucking know what a 100bz set is.

>>7694590
This wasn't a problem in Europe. Only American widescreen CRTs were digital.

>>7694594
I like that it is a compromise between transparent and being able to appreciate the detail.

I found a FOURTY MOTHERFUCKING THREE inch CRT today. If I get it I will post pics to prove it.

>>7724037
B&O isn't euro exclusive

>>7724185
anon you need to hire some goons to move it for you

>>7724185
inb4 rear projection tv

>>7724185
renting a forklift for it?

>>7723406
This really depends on where you live. Some places have an abundance of them, others don't. Shit's more expensive online because they know they can charge that much and people who can't find any locally are willing to pay for it. Also of course there's shipping costs to consider as well.

>>7724912
People aren't necessary buying these listings ever, in fact they do perpetually exist when nobody buys them.

>>7724934
Except, a lot go to disposal where they cease to exist

Playing Lufia for the first time, enjoying it

>>7721248
>best thing about the pvms is the video out
that's funny because all it does is join the cables together, you could easily solder up a y cable that would do the same thing

>>7724934
Except people are buying them. Just view the sold listings on ebay and be amazed at how much people are willing to pay.

>>7725417
The game is on

>>7697302
Facebook marketplace, kijiji, the side of the road the night before garbage collection etc.

>>7724646
>>7724827
I will definitely be looking into hiring the best goons. I'm fairly certain it isn't rear projection, if it is there are enough other TVs in the area that I can find something else.

>>7725579
If it’s this Toshiba it’s definitely not rear projection

>>7725417
This is just resellers buying their own listings themselves to shrill.
On these sites the person listing these can remove the listing as long as it has not recieved a bid, so if a demand for something is genuine you will never see an item of it with 0 bids at like 1$.

>>7726368
i saw a bunch of old dell monitors that has "trinitron" written clearly on them sit at 1 dollar zero bids for like a week.
very suspicious.

Can someone explain to me why anons are saying this dogshit looks good: >>7717482

While hating this one that looks so crisp: >>7722131

And please no "durrrrrr muh scanlines"

>>7723479
So I picked this one up, it has 2 scart connections however I think it needs a recap as it has retrace lines and it has a hissing sound which I think is a capacitor

>>7726368
ebay differentiates sold from unsold or removed listings. You can go to a site like watchcount and filter by only sold listings and you can even see how many people are currently watching that listing. I'm sure many listings are taken down when they receive no bids, but to think all of the sold listings are fake or not legit is just ignorant.

>>7726470
>While hating this one that looks so crisp
It’s fine if you like the emulated look

>>7726630
it's truly denial. $100-200 for what is a gaming accessory to younger people and a bit of nostalgia for older people is nothing. I've paid more than that for keyboards. If I was younger and wanted to experience retro games, a nice "13 composite tv is exactly what I would buy.

>B-b-b-but muh side of the road pick up
doesn't matter. I've bought brand new monitors with tape on the box for $5. I just picked up a 22inch viewsonic VGA monitor for $5 off facebook. I've scraped roaches and rat shit off of arcade monitors and paid $200 for some computer displays. If you really want to get into the hobby you're going to hit every price point eventually. Most people aren't. they want some un assuming thing they can stuff under a cabinet. If you want to hoard, hoard smaller sets because thats what people want.

>>7722837
Is 14 inches really not large enough? I’m definitely not paying for one of those 20 inch ones desu

>>7726790
It's a fucking shitton(like 10 times at least) for worn second hand tech. You can get a new gaming monitor that is actually guaranteed to work with years of warranty for an even lower price and that is brand new not second hand. It has literally no marketing and google autofills CRTs to 'where dump', items that were produced in 0.001% the quantity even earlier are considered ubiquitous.

>>7726790
Why wouldn't you pay more for keyboards? Sony produced Trinitrons every year the same amount as the entire historical quantity of IBM Model Ms. It also doesn't even have any practical disadvantage like taking up space and it has the same rollover as most modern keyboards.

>>7726470
>pic
do snoys really?

bump

About when did 36" and larger CRT direct view televisions come on the market? I don't think I've ever seen a CRT that big from the 70s.

https://youtu.be/Nml6Abg01zE

Is the 2130QM worth the hype?

>>7726630
>40$ with 1 bid
Yeah sure is lot of Totally Real and Not Fabricated Demand here.

>>7728825
It was most likely an auction that had a best offer option. That's what it looks like when the seller accepts that offer. How much denial are you going to go through. These prices aren't really even that absurd compared to most other hobby items. Why is it so hard to believe that people are will to pay more than you are for things? Just look at the retro/gaming market overall. Game prices are absolutely insane for the DS pokemons. I paid $20 for my complete HeartGold a couple of years ago and now it's going for $200. Or is that all just fake too?

Can anyone approximate how the following compare in display quality:
- console 240p composite output to CRT TV
- console 240p RGB output to CRT TV
- emulated 240p output to 1600x1200 CRT monitor
- emulated 240p with 5x integer scaling and 1200p output to 1600x1200 CRT monitor
?

People always say that CRTs have no native resolution and will smoothly scale anything, but surely the ultimate clarity of the image will hugely depend on the dot pitch of the display and 240p on a CRT monitor will look nothing like 240p on a CRT TV.

>>7729581
Just go watch mlig if you really need to tickle your autism this deeply without google.

>>7729581
CRTs have 480i native but computer monitor CRTs can scale resolution, mostly max out at 1024

>>7701462
they had 4 of them stacked in a cube running the CCTV at my university (this was 3 years ago)

>>7729581
that's too vague to make an accurate comparison but generally emulation on a vga crt is gonna look sharper than any console on a tv, and that might be good or bad depending on who you ask
>240p on a CRT monitor will look nothing like 240p on a CRT TV
it won't if you just stretch the games to 1600x1200 like a jackass, but if you use a superwide modeline and tvout/tvout+interlacing it would be really hard to tell the difference unless you're an hyper autist, more so if your monitor has aperture grille instead of shadowmask
>>7729728
????

>>7729416
>item is high in supply low in demand
>is somehow expensive
I have seen a lot of things on online marketplaces but someone paying 10x the last sold listing simply isn't authentic.

"LCDs could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this thread before. There could be LCDs anywhere." The scanlines looked crisp against the RGB signal. "I HATE LCDs" he thought. The Super Metroid OST reverberated his entire room, making it pulsate even as the $9 wine circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of latency and poor viewing angles after dark. "With a PVM, you can play anything you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>7723695
Lmfao stay mad

>>7726492
Replaced the cap and had to get it out of hotel mode, which took a bit of time, and still adjusting parameters but here it is with composhit
Need to get some RGB cables and a switcher for my consoles

>>7730436
Keep posting your line doubled garbage, it's ok

Thoughts on getting an HDMI to RGB converter for a Raspberry Pi 4 to have an all in one retro machine minus gen 6? I would just get one of those 8bitdo pro 2 controllers and bet basically set. Is this the optimal/most economic way to do this?

>>7723832
lol no

>>7723957
retro-access

FUCK I GOT A CRT MONITOR FOR LIKE A COMPUTER AND GOT IT SET UP AND IT LOOKS FANTASTIC LIKE WHAT PICS OF PVMS OR WHATEVER LOOK LIKE BUT ITS SO FUCKING BRIGT AND HAVING THE CONTRAST SET AS ANYTHING BESIDES THE MAX MAKES IT LOOK LIKE SHIT MY FUCKING EYES HURT SO GOD DAMN MUCH ITS A FEW FEET AWAY ON MY DESK BUT MY F UCKIN EYES BURN

>>7731152
Raise the V2 voltage in the back so that you can have better contrast at lower brightness

>>7731159
it's like a PC monitor, im not very tech savvy the only thing I could imagine that's similar to that is the color temperature thing in the settings of the monitor

>>7731162
It's a dial inside the circuitry of the monitor. As the tv ages, it can't operate as efficiently as it used to, however you can boost the voltage a bit with this potentiometer so that the tv runs on overdrive to regain it's image quality. This can wear out your tube quicker, however. This is a loose explanation. Since you're a beginner, I would recommend learning how to adjust just the basic brightness/contrast/sharpness settings first. I used this website https://www.eizo.com/library/basics/eizo-monitor-test/ and it works well. Do this first and then see if you're happy with it.
Also I meant G2 voltage.

What is the best CRT you can buy/get?

>>7731367
Doesn't matter what is the best, is all about what you can find in your area.

>>7731367
Curved glass shadowmask consumer TV with component is literally the best gaming CRT you can play on. JVC and Toshiba are known quality manufacturers of this variety. I say this because it will most accurately match the kind of monitor used in arcade cabinets.

>>7731367
>>7731494
That's the consumer side, there is also the CRT used in broadcasts (Video monitors) I'm not mention it because of "memes" or "popularity", The components used in those video monitors are built to last longer than an consumer TV.

>>7731367
my white whale is a mitsubishi diamondtron