/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7724683
Actually most of the really popular series are pretty easy. They got extremely popular because they are so accessible. Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, etc.

>>7724703
Sonic isn't that easy

>>7724705
what are the difficult sonic games you are referring to? i'd like specific examples.

>>7724703
Almost every single one of these series is only considered easy after the NES entries. Dragon Quest and FF in particular became way less grindy post SFC days, the NES zeldas are considered the most cryptic, Mario is only easy if you cheat with warps, and Sonic is only easy if you don't 100% it.

>>7724703
og zelda is so fucking bullshit

>>7724703
Theyre easy to me. But i need obscure.

I have no problem with hard games from mid 90s to up.

>>7724705
The whole "You will never die as long as you have a ring" system they have closes the gap between good and bad players pretty well as far as just completing the game is concerned. The only hazard you really need to look out for at that point is bottomless pits which can be handled by simply taking the game slowly. The controls are also very simple as well.

>>7724713
>Mario is only easy if you cheat with warps
Super Mario Bros. was so easy they created a hard mode rom hack to serve as the sequel. Literally the only difficult part of the game is World 8.

>>7724724
>Literally the only difficult part of the game is World 8.
Most people never even got there without warps. People even admit it here in the /vr/ confessions threads. It's a straight forward platformer, sure, but that's a lot of levels to complete without warps and therefore a lot of chances to die.

Also, lost levels wasn't even brought over here because Americans thought SMB was too hard.

Of course, it's not that hard of a game. But it's not a go-to easy series you could have listed like Kirby.

Also games mostly easy but some hard levels are ok.

And ones with cheats.

>>7724734
>Most people never even got there without warps.
Yes, casual zoomers.
>People even admit it here in the /vr/ confessions threads.
Yes, casual zoomers.
>because Americans thought SMB was too hard.
This is the first time I've EVER heard someone say this rather than "SMB2 was too hard to be released in America" so I think you just pulled that out of your ass.

>>7724723
>The only hazard you really need to look out for at that point is bottomless pits
and drowning

>>7724683
Im op I beat SMB before.

>>7724740
>Yes, casual zoomers.
We get it, you're better than everybody else.
>This is the first time I've EVER heard someone say this rather than "SMB2 was too hard to be released in America" so I think you just pulled that out of your ass.
That's just the logical corollary of that statement. It's not just that lost levels was too hard, it's that Nintendo had already noted the differences between the difficulty in games released in America and Japan. This wasn't a one off game they decided not to release because of its difficulty, the decision not to release difficult famicom games was a company policy in America, and they obviously had to come to that conclusion from somewhere based on market research from American gamers at the time.

Marvel War of the Gems.
That rodent game on snes.
Most games on Snes.
Bubble Bobble.
Some Puzzle games on low levels.
Snes Mortal Kombat games
Megaman collections with options.

>>7724759
How do you explain American NES releases being made more challenging than their Famicom versions then? Games like Castlevania 3 and Ninja Gaiden 3 for example?

>>7724783
Super Castle Vania 4.
Wario Land 2 and 3.
Some fighting games have input changes to make moves come out easier.
Kirby Games

Or just use the game genie kino machine.

>>7724796
Because those weren't nintendo intellectual properties and therefore internal nintendo policies regarding localization probably wouldn't have mattered as much?

Lot of Euro games easier, less frames or something.

Pc mods.

Japan actually some has easier games versions.

Pokemon

>>7724721
A lot of average NES/FC platformers really aren't too hard.
Hammerin' Harry
Yume Penguin Monogatari
Samurai Pizza Cats
Wacky Races

I am kino

>NES
mega man 5 and 6
duck tales
chip 'n dale rescue rangers
tiny toon adventures
jackie chan's action kung fu
mario trilogy
>SNES
super metroid
super mario rpg
mario world
mega man x
goof troop
aladdin
do-re-mi fantasy
dkc trilogy if you don't care about collecting everything
>Mega Drive
sonic trilogy
ristar
mickey mouse castle of illusion and land of illusion
mcdonald's treasure land adventure

>>7725135
*world of illusion
land is the game gear one.

>>7724740
I think people here overestimate the skill and dedication of the average player back then, most games were just kind of a colorful distraction rather than a challenge people took seriously, not that far off from repeating the first stage of an arcade game a couple times and then going back to bowling or eating pizza.

>>7724723
>The only hazard you really need to look out for at that point is
THE GODDAMN PLATFORMS KILLING YOU WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO JUMP ON THEM REGARDLESS OF RING COUNT. Getting pinched between two platforms is the only shitty thing about those games, VERY annoying. Also, not being widescreen. Sonic Mania fixed this thankfully.

>>7724734
>nobody ever got to level 8 w/o warps
If levels 1-7 are so easy what's the point of grinding through them?

>>7725391
Too bad Sonic Mania is one huge fucking rehash.

>>7725405
That's fine though. Playing those games on widescreen feels much better. Going fast is more tolerable and fun, I don't feel like I need to play the levels 20+ times to get good at going quick.
I have bad twitch reflexes. I am the exact opposite of a speedrunner.

>>7724703
FF1 and especially 2 are not remotely easy. However DQ is easy, just a lot of boring grinding involved.

>>7724783
>Snes Mortal Kombat games
What does this even mean? The first 3 MK games are notoriously virtually impossible to beat arcade mode on any difficulty. Unless the snes version was completely different?

>>7724703
>Sonic, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest

Read the OP. He no longer has the powers of autism.

>>7726403
If you think Zelda or Final Fantasy games are hard, you're gonna have one hell of a time playing anything retro. These ones literally feed you everything you will ever need from start to finish and FF games require literally ZERO control skills.

>>7724709
>nobody ever replied
btfo

>>7726425
That's fucking bullshit man. First 2 FFs(probably 3rd too but have no experience with it) are fucking brutal. I hope you're not basing this on remakes. Making it through a dungeon with 5 floors and only a few potions and 5 overall spells you can use for the entire duration for healing or reviving/hp with CONSTANT random encounters not to mention the constant status effects regular ass enemies inflict. Either you didn't play it or you're a tryhard.