/vr/ - Retro Games

First for doable mancubus

>>768081
doomguy pls

Hey, /doom/, ART THOU BORED?

Go get the Top 100 WADS Of All Time here! 392MB of pure madness from 1995 to 2003. Now you have ZERO excuses about not having anything to play with!

http://pastebin.com/9xZtH1tw

>Of course, tell me if something is wrong with this ZIP file, AND, if it's possible, I would be forever grateful if someone takes the time to upload this thing in MEGA or another filehosting service as a backup

>>768081
blergh...wait, since when do they have six boobs?

>>768153
hmm.. artistic licence i think. the sprite just looks like it has rolls of fat.

>>768153
Clearly Mancubi have some pig relatives, as clearly indicated by their facial structure, multiple breasts, and ability to shoot balls of plasma at farmers/butchers/lone space marines.

>>768153
>questioning additional breasts
>on 4chan

>>768174
Wait what, the partial invisibility uses the Mancubus face?

>>768178
that's a megasphere

blurspheres just have the blue eye

>>768178
Slowest poke
Yeah, I assume that's because the Soul sphere countains human souls, and the Megasphere contains demonic souls/power/essence, which explains it's greater power.

Downloaded the rest of the games for the torrent, will take a few days to test them out.

NEED SOMEONE TO DOWNLOAD THE !FREE! MACINTOSH GAME "PATHWAYS INTO DARKNESS" AND UPLOAD IT! If possible, it would make this much easier, as I have no access to the Mac App Store, and there seems to be no external downloads for the game. While I have no way to test the game, nor am including a Macintosh emulator, I still want to include it for completion. It is a real kick in the shimmies for them to scream FREE when it is out of my reach!

>>768091
MIRROR, YOU SAY?
http://filesmelt.com/dl/top100wads.zip

>>768178
>Wait what, the partial invisibility uses the Mancubus face?
yes, as >>768185 points out the megasphere containing a mancubus face is fairly well-known. to be honest i deliberately took the screenshot from that position to see if anyone would comment on it.

what i think is slightly less well-known—possibly because fewer people are familiar with the press-release beta graphics—is that the invulnerability contains the original lost soul.

Just completed the first 2 episodes of doom 1, should i continue to doom 2 or do inferno and thy flesh consumed first?

>>768315
realistically it doesn't really matter. my personal advice* would be to do E3, then Doom2, then whatever you want. E4 is more like an addon/expansion pack that's been grafted in rather ham-fistedly. at least, that's what i think. it's also noticably harder than most of Doom2.

___________
* which is completely different to how i actually first played the game years ago. i got doom2 first, then ultdoom. i actually think this was better in some ways because the original has better map design (nothing really beats E1). on the other hand doom2 has a more interesting variety of monsters, so either is good i guess.

>>768296
I AM familiar with the alpha versions and never noticed that.
Goddamn, 20 years later and Doom still surprises me.

Grab your shotgun, pack your rockets and say goodbye to your buddy's jaw. Deathmatch is back!

We're using Zandronum 1.0, an improved successor to Skulltag, and playing on BestEver servers located in New York.

Today, we're kicking it off with Doom2 and 32in24-5.wad, a series of 32 deathmatch maps made in 24 hours, all aimed to please the itchy demon killer! Vote kicking, map changing, and map resetting are all enabled.

If you don't already have Zandronum and the IWADs, download the .rar file, and follow the instructions.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ktbdft8w1xqi388/MoreMapsThanA15DollarMapPack.rar

Instructions for players:

1. Download and unpack the .rar file containing the Zandronum installer and the IWADs necessary to play Doom1 and Doom2

2. Install Zandronum

3. If asked, point Zandronum to the folder containing the IWADs. Otherwise, skip to the next step.

4. Open Doomseeker, go to "Options" -> "Configure", Hit file paths, "Add Path", and direct Doomseeker to the folder containing the IWADs

5. Find the server named " ::BE New York:: /v/idyagames" on the server browser

6. Happy fragging!

Fractal Doom has been updated!

--The minimarine launcher that origninally appeared in VincentPrice's "fractal_addon_0.01" has been added to fractal doom as a fist altfire. It now has a custom animation, and will correctly increase throw distance when the altfire is held. It takes 10 health and a special minimarine ammo to use; the ammo is gathered from berserk packs, each of which gives 4 minimarines. 12 can be held at a time, 24 with a backpack. Pic related.

--Minimarines are now the same color as the player that spawned them.

--Added a bit of blood and sound effects to the random spawning of minimarines, which still occurs.

--The cyberdemon and minicyberdemon have had their pain chance reduced

--Changed the number of rockets required to fire the rocket launcher's altfire from 15 to 16.

--Changed the amount of ammo received from a single rocket from 1 to 2.

--Changed the max health medikits and stimpacks can increase the player's health to from 100 to 150.

--Decreased the BFG altfire's invulnerability duration from 8 to 6.

--Decreased the Health and speed of miniarachnotrons

--Significantly reduced the health of the smallest lost souls and the smallest imps.

--Fixed an issue that caused revenant rockets to deal more damage than they should have.

--Fixed an issue that caused armor bonuses to be invisible.

--Fixed an issue that caused megaspheres to give less health and armor than intended to the player.

Download link is the same as before: http://www.mediafire.com/download/b0ypy9l0pn40s33/fractal_doom.wad

Also available on the BestEver servers as "fractal_doom_v0.1.8.wad"

>tfw the best project in years turned into shit because the creator was a nigger aka DKG
>tfw cyberrunner is full of pedobears and waifufags
>tfw no 3.14qt gf

>>768465
>No gf

Beta zandronum babby detected
Top lel

>viral marketing

>mfw samefag shitposter overtakes /vr/ again

Lmao zandronum fucks our thread with doomkart
Rofl

>>768465

Reported

HAHAHAHA
Doomkart sucks

>dkg
>viralz mRketing

>>768465

Hide Doomkart post
Ignore Doomkart posters
Report Doomkartguy

Shitposting level has reached its max

So I've been playing on a new computer, it's got Windows 8, and in the middle of the first game it started glitching out; and now it says that it (I assume Windows 8) blocked Zandronum's access to the grahphics card.

How the fuck do I work around this?

>>768478
>m-muh doom thread
Man the fuck up.
Wads cant be viral marketed.
Its free you dipshit

Or are you that retarded that you even believe in a god

>>768515
>Windows 8

>>768358
Uuhh... I'd rather not play with /v/...

>>768797
That's why you play with /vr/

Hey I'm from the zan forums, any one want an OS duel on UK grandovid, Union or NL funcrusher? I'd like to play you new players.

>>768358
>/v/

You need to be lynched.

>>768838

Hi, Zan forumer! Not all of us are new, and it's generally not a good idea to advertise yourself as a Zan forumer.

That being said, sure, just list the server.

>>768846
My apologies, I've been with ST for many years but I'm sure a lot of you have as well. Ok Uk Grandvoid no spectators? sound good?

>>768852

Sure, if you don't mind an easy win. I'm not a good DMer. Pop in whenever.

>>768864
I'm there, I'm not too great either tbh.

Why are people shitposting about Doomkart again?
And why did noone started to continue working on it? Its such a great idea.

>>768838
is that you, Fluffles?

at last!* finally had some luck in that final room.

___________
* https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/732641/#732669

>>768983
>post
*thread
Didn't sleep last night, typing skill impaired.

So uhh, somehow the link from the previous thread to this post is listing as dead for me.

>>768983
Same thing for me.

Reposting my idea to get some more feedback from /vr/

Would anyone be interested in a Hexen Dungeon Crawl type mod?
Basically there would be a central hub with shops and stuff where you can upgrade. Then around the hub-town there would be 10-15 large dungeon type levels which you increase in difficulty and are filled with monsters, puzzles, loot and traps.

Make it like roguelikes and have randomly generated dungeons

>>769285
durr>>769260

>>769285
it's somewhat surprising nobody's tried to embed Oblige into an engine yet.

>>769285
might be cool. I don't know how easy that would be. I remember seeing Nash make something like that but it wasn't very.. complete. And very boring.

Fractal Doom has tweaked a bit:

--Minimarines don't talk as often and when they do, it's not as loud and you can't hear it as far away. Your Fractal Doom experience should return to the soothing experience it previously was.

--Minimarines now cost 30 health instead of 10 to spawn

--You now receive 3 minimarine ammo from berserk packs instead of 4.

--You can now only hold 6 minimarines normally and 12 with the backpack instead of 12 minimarines and 24 with the backpack.

Download link is the same as before: http://www.mediafire.com/download/b0ypy9l0pn40s33/fractal_doom.wad

Also available on the BestEver servers as "fractal_doom_v0.1.9.wad"

Server has been rehosted with the updated Fractal Doom:

:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ Plutonia 2: Fractal Survival

>>769321
ysonerf?

>>769298
Well, part of what made things like nethack and such interesting, had to do with the preset level formats. Specific floors would be in a specific format, and maybe you could implement something like that, so that levels have a specific shape and graphical look depending on the dungeon.

>>769341
Even randomly selected presets would still be annoying unless I made 5 different floors and made the player teleport on random.

>>769321
the minimarines should run around squeaking "stay alert brothers" constantly in a 2x pitched up voice

>>769260
Do it, DO IT. I just finished Hexen,and Hexen 2 a shit, so I need my goddam fix.

Why aren't you using Beautiful Doom yet, /vr/?

>>769486
Hexen 2 is pretty good imo. Better than Hexen in some places.

Because it adds nothing to the game and is largely just a lag-inducing piece of shit.

>>769486
Why are there so many machine gun type weapons in FKER? They all feel the same.
Also, will FKER ever get a gore mod?

>>769486
I might need a little help with it though. I'm a fairly competent mapper. Just with.. very little motivation.

What kind of dungeons would everyone like?
Also would it be worth it adopting a trip/name just so people can easily identify me?

>>769494
Isn't that the one that forces a specific autoaim setting or covers the screen with nagging text?

>>769508
Yeah. It is.

I liked some of the effects but it wasn't great.

>>769496
Melee range is WAY too short and the projectiles are way too fast. There's no real way to win most fights without taking damage.
>>769498
I answered your first question in the last thread here >>768940 and no, it will never be a gore mod. If I add gore into it it'll be in a separate plugin or something. FKER is meant for gameplay.
>>769504
Lots of crossover like in Hexen, maybe play Metroid Prime if you haven't already to get some ideas about how to do backtracking properly as well.

>>769517
Hm. I was thinking more of fairly large, but individual dungeons. perhaps a method of linking two dungeons together would be a large locked door in one, and the key in another, which unlocks a third dungeon? I'm just in the ideas phase right now.

So far the idea is kind of like stronghold, but with dungeons instead of invasion.

>>769508
Yes.
And that's why I'm not using it.

>>769546
I'd highly suggest checking out Metroid Prime. It pretty much does exactly what you're thinking of. You can also make custom powerups for Doomguy which could add more gameplay variety as well.

>>769472

I'll put that in the Brutal Fractal Doom version slated for 2016.

>>769335

Because I hate fun.

what is build engine's zdoom?

>>769568
EDuke32

I think.

>>769570
>>769568
There really isn't one, but Eduke is fairly good.

>>769546
What >>769553 said, also I'd recommend designs which allow one to expedite travel through an area after they've already trudged through it once or twice. For example, access to a tunnel system which offers a fast track back to a location that was memorably annoying to access the first time.

>>769580
I was thinking of usable (with cooldown) super speed, super jump, etc items, with other stuff like keys, weapons, perhaps even areas made for crouching to crawl through. However, yes, fast tracks to get back through an area, especially if enemies respawn to a significant degree, are pretty much necessary to avoid annoyance.

>>769589
Would the jumping and speed be Metroidvania-ish, where they let you explore other parts of the dungeons once you get them?

>>769597
That's generally the idea yeah. Lets you get past previously impassable crushers and onto high ledges and stuff.

>>769558
haha, thumbsup.jpg.

>>769568
zdoom is build engines zdoom!

zdoom started off by importing code from wherever rheit could steal it from, regardless of licence compatibility or anything like that. the build engine was one of rheit's primary sources.

it might have almost all been replaced by now but the fact remains!

>>769580
I was thinking of perhaps an escape rope item that you could use to go to the dungeon entrance. Or maybe just using the Chaos device but only once the dungeon is complete.

The idea of powerups/special items used to access secret areas in earlier dungeons is a good idea. I like that. Gives dungeons some extra replayability.

trip adopted for the sake of identification.

>>769620
I'm not sure if it's doable without some ACS, but you might be able to make certain doors only open when shot with certain weapons as well, or at least walls that can be destroyed by certain weapons.

>>769615
We just took back what was ours, thief.

>>769625
Sounds interesting, but some classes don't really have explosive weapons. Mage for one, unless you count the BloodScourge. Firestorm isn't exactly explosive either, just fiery.

I was also thinking of changing the classes a little, more spells for the mage, special combos for the fighters, and miracles for the cleric.

>>769615
patachu pls go

>>769615
Careful with those edges.

>>769620
I would just have 4 or so teleporters open outside the dungeons that take you 1/4th 2/4th 3/4th and 4/4ths through the dungeon. 2 on either side of the dungeon entrance. Something like that... Seems the most simple way, and might even look nice.

>>769656
It's just some guy who regularly whines about Zdoom. He also tends to go on about Randy changing his name to Randi and other petty things like that, so just tune him out since he's got nothing useful to say.

>>769638
Do it man. Someone was making scrolls with different abilities as well... Dunno if that was you, but if not see if you can't get in contact with him. There was raise dead, ice cicles that would shoot up - all sorts of stuff. Maybe you guys can make Hexen enjoyable for me. I can't stand the level design. Switch hunting is shit.

>>769662
That's a good idea. I remember stuff like that in Jumpmaze. Would be interesting.

So. Anyone got any ideas for puzzles? Sure there's the classic press the switches in the correct sequence, and step on the pads to make a pattern. then there's the dreaded switch hunt. And there's push statues onto a button.

What other kinds of puzzles are there, that are possible in the doom engine no less?

>>769665
hahaha

damn i'm not used to boards that have so few people on them that you can get a reputation attached to you even without using a name

>>769680
Voodoo Doll telefrag maze?

>>769680
My dad had a puzzle in his doom wad that you needed to throw switched in the hexedecimal order for 64... Doesn't really work in Hexen though...

cyphers though.

>>769712
aaargh please don't even suggest such a thing!!

I might have a unique question for you Doomers.

As we all know, Doom is one of the most extensively edited games out there. It also proves the concept of "master race". However, I was wondering to what extent are some of these mods "legitimate". By "legitimate" I mean if they could run on a DOS or whatever from the time. From what I see, some of these games are so heavily edited, they could very well be their own engines.

I would like to know. If you could play some of these mods from computers from the mid 90's, then that would be quite impressive. But seeing as the mid 90's was the beginning of "standardization" of the PC platform, this might be a stupid question to begin with.

Thanks in advance.

>>769712
That's a good idea. Like TNT's final level. Annoying, but cool.
>>769723
Hm, perhaps using Runes would make a good kind of code-language? I like the idea of throwing switches in specific orders, as long as the switches are all in a close area and not 1024 map units apart.

>>769712
That's a good idea. Like TNT's final level. Annoying, but cool.
>>769723
Hm, perhaps using Runes would make a good kind of code-language? I like the idea of throwing switches in specific orders, as long as the switches are all in a close area and not 1024 map units apart.

>>769739
also tripcode is fucking up. woops.

>>769739
It would need to have some major hints as to which one is going to kill you, nothing too obvious, but definitely something so that if you can figure it out, you don't have to constantly die.

>>769750
I think it'd be something like blinking sectors, or different textures or perhaps different coloured torches.

>>769735
Most "vanilla" mods are, unfortunately, maps.

However, it could be argued that the engine modifications required to play some of these newer mods are mods in of themselves, somewhat like Garry's Mod.

>>769756
Maybe they could be rising and lowering pillars in different patterns?

>>769763
Yeah, that works too.

Also I found this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hd2c5c1gc24iyor

could be useful however; looking at the code I have no fucking clue what I am reading.

>>769735

You know, by judging the world we're living in today, one would think that no-one makes stuff for Doom focusing on being as vanilla as possible and trying to make his work being totally compatible with the original executable. But that's completely false.

As a matter of fact, as far as Doom mapping goes, nowadays there's a more favored response to vanilla-compatible maps than maps featuring a more complex set of mapping settings (like WADS in zDoom in Hexen or UDMF format, for example)

I'm getting a feeling that, in a matter of time, there'll be a special section in the Cacowards focused on vanilla-compatible maps in the way we have "Best Gameplay mod", "Best Multiplayer WAD" and the like

>>769793
>As a matter of fact, as far as Doom mapping goes, nowadays there's a more favored response to vanilla-compatible maps than maps featuring a more complex set of mapping settings (like WADS in zDoom in Hexen or UDMF format, for example)

this is certainly true of Doomworld, which is by and large a classic mapping forum these days

i have to doubt it holds in any of the others, though

>>769793
I was making my wad completely vanilla compatible til recently. Decided I wanted to do some music changes and stuff. But it's still vanilla gameplay compatible, so I can easily convert it with a udmf to doom format wad converter...

>>769826
Doomworld just hates ZDoom.

>>769995
Doomworld hates everything.

>>769625
Yo, mind posting a link to latest version of FKER?

You guys are missing this octuple-cyberdemon action.

It never ends.

>>770104
because it's all shit

>>770181
Best Screenshot ever

Huh.

So a while back, my Zandronum fucked up where there wasn't any bobbing whatsoever.

Just now, I got back in my Realguns Icarus run I've been doing, and suddenly it's back.

What the shit.

>>768091
Awesome upload! This should definitely go in the sticky

So what's the ZDoom of Duke?

>>770263
You just asked that.

>>770262
who is maintaining that stuff now that Faqqet decided to do a Killough_why_i_quit_doom.htm ?

>>770275
Oops, looks like someone else already asked. I just got home and didn't think anyone else would have the same idea.

>>770263
>Duke
There's only one source port of Duke that actually is worth it and that's EDuke32. Even the Steam version is based on an ancient version of it made for your X in the Box.

>>770281
Jukezeedoommind

Playing some "Alien Vendetta Survival"

>>769260
>Hexen Dungeonn Crawl type mod
FUCKING DO IT

>>770148
Zandronum Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sstdx2nhsqprw5i

GZDoom Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kcjk1cc1qw0539

>>770328
Thanks man.

>>770346
No problem

>>769995
>Doomworld just hates ZDoom.

From what I've gathered, its not that they hate Zdoom, They prefer traditional gameplay, which leads them to making the maps vanilla/boom compatible because they are more demo friendly engines.

Zdoom basically spits on demo playback. Which is why its generally rarer to find traditional gameplay wads making use of its features.

>>770357
And to clarify, The traditional maps tend to gather interest in the speedrun community, and Doomworld has its share of speedrunners.

>>769494
I never understood WHY you have to have that stupid autoaim setting enabled.

Following suggestions from the previous thread, I've decided to use BassMidi for my synth, and I'm using the SGM-V2.01 soundfont. Sounds great, 32in24-11's soundtrack gets even better

Though, should I fuck around with these settings or not? Speaking of which, any noteworthy ones I should change in Zandronum's own, too?

So I downloaded some Duke3D mod named Imagination World and what the fuck is with guy in the bathroom while there's clearly a fucking alien invasion and a Quake 2 grunt was shitting there?

>>770538
Do the only logical thing and blow him up

>>770538
He was obviously taking 'Eat shit and die' literally

>>770557
ahahaha

>>770510
There isn't much need to fiddle with the settings. Though I personally made the volume a bit lower, cause I felt it was too loud compared to the sound fx ingame.

>>770570
Really? I found it a little more quiet than FMOD.

>>770582
Eh, probably depends on source port then. I use PrBoom-plus.

>>770615
I'm currently using Zandronum. GZDoom for some reason won't play audio through my G35 headset.

>>768065
Is there a generic wad manager/launcher so I can sort through various packs of hundreds of wads to find single levels, megawads, deathmatch, coop support and so fourth? Rather than digging through each one individually?

>>770656
>
nope. maybe you should make one

>>770627

Zandronum ftw. Great multiplayer community, extremely fun servers. You can't go wrong.

>Trying out a .dll file that adds in shit like Bloom

Um, alright

>>770783
I promise you this doesn't look as creepy in-game

>>770783
Might wanna tone that bloom down a bit, cap'n. I'd imagine it'd look fine if you made it a more subtle effect than super-glowy-red-face-of-death.

>>770786
Douk's nightvision goggles are more like thermal ones

>>770796
>Invuln sphere
Well fuck

>>770795
Will do that eventually

>>770783
>>770786
Your screenshots are making that look a lot more interesting than it really is, aren't they?

>>770796
But that one's got to be awesome.

>>770805

>>770806
Yeah, it is pretty much cherry picking I will admit. In the techbase levels, lights are everywhere, and it doesn't look that good. Like what >>770795 said I'll get to toning it down and see what happens

But at the moment, the Spear of Destiny becomes even neater

>>770805
>>770796

>>770786
Oh yeah? Does duke also say stuff in game, because that's the only way he could be creepier.

>>770837

What's the sauce on this pic? Looks pretty wicked.

Jesus Christ I'm back.
What did I miss since I've been gone. I'm way out of the loop.

Hey guys I saw this in a previous thread and I can't find anything about it.

Please tell me you know!

Do not respond to the above post

>>770910
Not falling for it

>>770923
Can you even fucking read?

>>770927
Psst
If you don't want people to respond don't respond to their responses.

>>770905
Fractal doom is bretty gud, courtesy of /vr/.

Nothing life-changing, though.

>>770927
It's the same guy replying to himself, silly.

Samsara Duelling
:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ gets personal
ip: 108.61.83.66:15002
password vidya
Get in here if you're man enough to go one on one with your fellow /vr/ troopers.

>>770905
Large amounts of updates for FKER, ProjectILE, and Fractal Doom, random /vr/ modifications for Doom; the retro shooter mega torrent is nearing completion, and the 100 best Doom wad compilation is completed.

It's cool guys, it's one of us

>>770873
Seconding this. Google has nothing.

>>770946
How's ProjectILE looking? I don't think the dev has posted about it in a long time. Is it any fun?

>>770970
He hasn't posted updates in awhile, I am pretty sure Scroton made it. It is pretty fun, but I haven't played too much of it. I would say it is worth a try, the latest version should be in the FAQ /vr/ wad list.

I hate when megawads make map07 nothing but a tribute to dead simple. Happens way too often, and is an unoriginal use of tags 666 and 667

>>770997

Scroton here, it was the guy that made the /tg/ map that made it. I remember him posting about it or another project he was going to do in the thread before last.

>>771023
make a good one
show us all

>>771034
Why would I need to? There are already map07s out there that aren't dead simple tributes. Its just that its very common to find megawads that do have them.

>>770938
Also it's Melee only now.

Do we just not like Duel around here?

>>771301
I dont think its been given much thought at all to be honest..

Anyone have the pass for the /vr/troopers? I tried the usual ones and they're not working.

I turned down the Bloom a little. Using >>770783 as a comparison, does this look any better?

>>771308
How'd you get your HUD so sexy?

>>771320
samsara+zandronum=sexy doomguy hud

>>771320
That's just Samsara.

Playing as Doomguy in well, Doom 2. As ridiculous as it sounds at least you get silent fists, Berserker buffing the chainsaw, and more visible health packs, etc

>>771308
Was bloom supposed to look better than default? It just seems to make colors more vibrant, turns down brightness, and makes everything that moves radiate light.

>>771334
>>771326
Damn, I thought there was finally PrBoom+-like HUD coloring in ZDoom.

>>771313
pls respond

>>771308
It looks better than the comparison, but it doesn't look good. Could be that I'm not used to it, but that's just weird.

>>771308
Everything looks fine except that shotgunguy, ugh, that's disgusting.

Hope it looks better in motion, which if you're enjoying it enough to keep it on, it probably does.

>>771345
AWAITING RESPONSE

>>771343
>>771367
Thanks for the input

If anyone is wondering, this is what I'm using and tweaking:

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1546

Doom does look fine alone, I am just experimenting to see if I can add more nice little touches, like the OpenGL glow effect.

With BassMidi and a good soundfont Heretic's soundtrack is pretty badass

>>771391
[gzdoom.exe]
Here are my settings.

Anisotropy=0
Multisample=0
Bloom=1
BloomSteps=8
BloomDarken=8
BloomScale=4
SSAO=0
SSAOScale=1.0
Saturation=0
Lightness=0
Emboss=0
DOF=0
DOFMinZ=0.005
DOFSpeed=0.75
DOFScale=3.0
RenderFrame=1

I find it to look pretty good, though with invuln you can't see shit.

>>771392
Whoops, wrong one

Anisotropy=0
Multisample=0
Bloom=1
BloomSteps=8
BloomDarken=3
BloomScale=1
SSAO=0
SSAOScale=1.0
Saturation=0
Lightness=0
Emboss=0
DOF=1
DOFMinZ=0.005
DOFSpeed=0.75
DOFScale=3.0
RenderFrame=1

I'll delete the other post.

I really liked DOOM back in the day, but all I used was DOS. For a few weeks whenever I saw a DOOM thread I'd fire it up again on DOS. The only thing is, I saw this doom engine called Doomsday. Is it any good?

>>771401
Look up ZDoom.
Or just, you know, read the OP.

>>771401

If you want to use a more revamped version of the original exe, try Chocolate Doom. I think it'll fit your needs greatly

And if you want to hang around with us and join the madness with Doom's most modern mods and addons, get Zandronum

>>771412
I did, and read the links. All I wanted to know was if Doomsday was any good. Ctr+f didn't give me anything.

>>770826
Your HUD is blooming.

>>771401
>>771416
>>771418
GZDoom is also a good choice for modern mods and addons, and actually has more support for them than Zandronum, though Zandronum has integrated multiplayer which is a huge plus. Doomsday is meh, it's either QuakeDoom (if you use the 3D models) and doesn't look very good in my opinion, or a shittier version of ZDoom if you don't use the 3D models.

>>771418
Not many use Doomsday here, but I assume it cannot be terrible. I don't think I have witnessed a bad source port, but for the most part they all do the same thing.

Hey Doom general, what utility should I use if I only want to extract a .wad file?

>>771416
Okay, thanks. I think I'll mess around with Chocolate Doom for a while and then try to get into Zandronum.

>>771401
Source Port Crash Course for you:
DOSBox: Though not technically a source port, this is literally as close as you will get to pure DOS gaming on Windows NT devices.

Doom95: The only official still-used port of Doom next to Linux Doom. Second-closest you can get to pure Dooming.

Chocolate Doom: Source port made to be the closest you can get to pure Dooming. Ended up being the third-closest, but it's definitely worth a look. One of my favorites too.

PRBoom+: My other favorite. Based on the oldest source port ever: Boom. Some older wads are designed for it, and it's basically "Old doom style with Fresh Doom look!". Comes in software, hardware, and OpenGL flavors.

ZDoom: The newest, hottest, freshest little kid on the block. Everyone's favorite source port with extensive modding capabilities. Most newer mods require it, and you can use modern FPS controls in it.

Doomsday: For when graphics mean everything to you. Doomsday is meant to look sleek and shit, so it's got 3D Model Support and Antialiasing and OpenGL and True 3D and... all sorts of shit! It's worth a look at the least. (People who downloaded this also checked out: Risen3D)

Zandronum: It's an older version of ZDoom with Netcode and a lobby. Download this if you want to play online. Can also be used in place of stock ZDoom if you're lazy, though some extreme mods require it.

GZDoom: ZDoom with OpenGL capabilites... and some other shit too. If you wanted a heavyweight ZDoom or a Lightweight Doomsday, take this.

Eternity Engine: Pretty much designed to allow people to make their own full-blown games in the Doom engine, though nobody's truly taken them up on that offer yet. It can do some pretty fancy shit with the right mods.

Give me a sec and I'll type up some more.

>>771426
DEUTEX

Did I do good for a $1, guize?

>>771426

For what purpose? You want to check the sprites, maps or what?

Also, use SLADE3

>>771430
>PLUS - EPISODE 1

What, is it the shareware version on a CD with extra shit?

>>771430

>Paying fo' hovelware

But nice find anyways. You can get a hold of almost every single shovelware CD for Doom in archive.org

>>771437

*shovelware

sage for dabblepost

Samsara Duelling
:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ gets personal
ip: 108.61.83.66:15002
password: vidya

get in here and man and a half please switch it back to normal (no more melee only)

>>771445
B-b-b-but I like melee only

>>771425
>Boom
>Oldest source port ever

nigga pls

>>771396
I think you're right on the Invuln. Though thanks for sharing

>>771465
I'll fix it eventually. Maybe I'll just make a damn plugin to fix the invulnerability screen effect.

>>771475
My retinas don't.

>>771468
I like it.

>>771478
You don't NEED your retinas to play DOOM.

>>771425
>Eternity Engine

I didn't know this existed

I must see for myself.

>>771462
>Console ports
>Official ports

>>771465

>>771462
>reading this
>ReMooD
>believe this is a DooM MUD for some reason
I'm going to bed.

>>771462
Wow, why did Linux Doom spawn so many? Was it the first that was open source?

>>771480
All I need is 16 needles hooked up to a car battery and a CPU, 1 earbud, a keyboard with 8 keys and my dick to play Doom. But still, my retinas don't like it.

How easy is the Doom level editor to pick up? compared to say Build for Duke3D?

>>771487
Yes.
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_source_code

>>771495

Pretty damn easy, it's so easy it scares

>>771495
Easier. There are also multiple level editors, but Doom Builder 2 is generally preferred.

Hosting Hangman with vrskins
Server: /vr/troopers
Password: vidyagaems

>>771490
ReMooD, I knew I forgot more than just my trip when making that post!

ReMooD: A source port that's built for 4 player splitscreen action. That's... about all it's got to it's name. It supports fragglescript though?

>>771495
Can you draw rectangles or triangles?

>>771495
It's really easy, compared to the clunky mess that is the BUILD editor.

>>771502
HEATMETAL

IT'S YOU

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

>>771520
I've been hiding away, playing other vidya, but doom is something I have to return to, always. I'll be up all night.

>>771502
Is Ainsley being rendered as a flat under GZDoom?

>>771504

I was a bit stumped trying to figure out how to load multiple mods on Zandronum. Found it's extremely easy with Doomseeker just gotta create a server and you can choose to add additional mods and just use play offline. Fun stuff.

>>771526
I wish.

>>771529
You can also just select them all and drag them on toppa your shortcut.

>>771502
Server crashed due to gametype change. It's back up now though.

>>771527
snake owners are huge faggots that should be culled along with their snakes

>>771550
That gif was posted so many times on CR. It's not the actual webcam, it's a gif they use to get flashes.

>>771490
>Doom text adventure
DUDE

>>771556
Do you have the original gif?
This sounds like a racket I want to get in on.
sage for offtopic

>>771556
I know that.

stop spectating and actually play you fucking attentionwhore

>>771558
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_gifs/27858/Snake

>>771573

>>771573

awwww, someone mad about getting kicked

>>771579
>mad
>knowyourmeme.com
>muh boring wads
>muh play fair
even the zandronum pubbies don't get as pissy as you autists

>>771580

>>771580
>>771573

Super butthurt.

>>771573
>>771580
Cry some more.

>>771573
>>771576
>>771579
>>771580
>>771581
>>771583
>>771585
>>771586
samefag

>>771581
>>771583
>not being anonymous
typical atheist buttbuddy retards

I was browsing that other board and saw that someone had a pretty good idea.

>Brutal Doom 3DS

>>771592

>3DS

Don't get it, be more specific

>>771593

>>771601
>3D blood splatter

But then again

>Brutal doom

yeah, no, I rather have Project MSX.

>>771601

First of all

>Doom in handhelds

Not sure how does it feel to play Doom in handheld devices (talking about the original game, not the RPG series)

>>771606
The 3DS for one is missing a second analog stick.

>>771607
Well you can buy the extension that gives another stick.

>>771480

>>771618

>>771607
>not using one stick to move forward/back and turn left/right as was originally intended

I'm curious about the Doom community. How much on average a single usermap or a wad would be downloaded?

I come from the Duke3D community and for us it would be around 100 and 200 (except for the biggest mods).

>>771656

A map I made has been downloaded over 300 times, and it's never been posted outside this board.

For stuff that makes the cacowards or becomes popular it's easily in the thousands or tens of thousands, possibly in the hundreds of thousands depending upon the map/mod.

>>770805
I don't know which dll you're trying, mine isn't that egregious

Why the fuck do deathmatch maps have exits?

>>771689
Because in vanilla, that was the only way to get the tally screen.

>>771683
That's an old screenshot so let me update on this issue

>>771704
Essentially everything looks normal up until they fire adding a glow for a small milisecond

>>771706
And brighter textures like that side glowing wall thingie also get lit

>>771712
And when you get hit (your screen turns red for a bit) something like this happens.
I know it looks terrible, but again, this only happens for a millisecond, but adds some intensity.
Ultimately it's gimmicky and you'll get tired of it, which I eventually did, but it's a nice change of pace for shits and giggles.
If you want to try it out, here's the dll I'm using:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj1nh1capq9s2w1/OpenGLHacksForGZdoomZandronum.zip
Just unzip it and put in the same folder as gzdoom.exe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1VkmtBSW-4
dat mouse usage

>>771618
>>771480
I tried playing Killing Floor without vision once (as a test, wasn't blinded). Game's positional audio and my map knowledge was good enough that I was third on a server without looking at the screen except between waves.

It's possible.

>>771776

Dat frame rate.

>>771776

OH GOD PLS NO

>>771656
What are the best mods and maps and such for duke3d? would like to get into it.

does it have something like the cacoawards or general guides/lists for mods and things?

>>771792
It depends what you're looking for. Duke3D is most known for its total conversions, where it plays like FPS of the mid 90's but not too close to Duke3D either:
- WGrealms 2 http://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2
- AMC TC http://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc
- or the older but still most famous Straship Troopers TC (imo the 2 others above beat it though) http://www.moddb.com/mods/starship-troopers-tc

If you're looking for stuff that are REALLY Duke Nukem 3D, there I recommend the following :
- Duke Nukem Forever 2013 : most recent and most famous one, based on the old DNF trailers. http://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-forever
- Metropolitan Mayhem : a 14 short maps episode made in the classic city level style of the original game. I made about 3 maps in this one http://www.moddb.com/mods/metropolitan-mayhem
- The Imperium http://www.moddb.com/mods/imperium
- Brave New World http://www.moddb.com/mods/brave-new-world

As far as single usermaps are concerned, you can find a LOT of stuff in plenty of different styles. Check out the following sites to find them :
http://dukerepository.com/maps.php
http://msdn.duke4.net/
http://scent-88.com/

The most famous usermaps are the Roch series, the Red series, and anything made by Alejandro Glavic.

I also obviously recommend 2 single usermaps I've worked on:
http://www.moddb.com/members/nesfag/addons/sin-center
http://www.moddb.com/members/nesfag/addons/galbadia

Have fun and be sure to download the source prot Eduke32!

for great good

>>771808
It's a shame that duke3D had shit mouse input. It sucks that I have to used autoaim on hitscan because it's so poor and using any projectiles really needs to be within fairly short range to use effectively.

>>771830
Jolly good.
Dont forget the War of Attrition mod

Unrelated
Would it be good if this was a Retro FPS General thread, mostly, but not limited to, Doom? Not in /vg/ of course

>>771874
It's already a "90s FPS" thread, really. Unless you mean "stop calling it a doom thread, and call it the 90s fps thread" and change the OP copypasta...

>>771873
So did Shadow Warrior (which, by the way, is free on Steam right now), some aspects of the games aged remarkably well, others suck ass.

Does anyone here have the 21 Doom II Master Levels wad? I will include that, along with NERVE.wad, in the torrent!

Only 11 more games left for the torrent (unless more are added later), and 9 of them Amiga. Pathways Into Darkness is one of them if anyone would like to help with this feat.
>>768213
Otherwise, the game will not be included because I have no way to obtain it.

>>771879
I suppose you're right.

Also, seeing Shadow Warrior being free on Steam.. just didnt seem right.. Its still being sold on 3D Realms.

>>769321
Think we'll be able to use those tiny weapons somehow sometime soon?

>>771882
Not been around here for a while so I'm not sure what you're trying to collect - I'm sitting on a goddamn mountain of Amiga stuff over here though so if you still need any Miggy stuff I can probably fill some games.

>>771894
>Also, seeing Shadow Warrior being free on Steam.. just didnt seem right.. Its still being sold on 3D Realms.
>link in the op directly to every official doom wad

>>771904
This is different.
This is Valve giving away Shadow Warrior while 3D Realms is trying to get money from it.

Valve could just as easily sell it like they did with the Duke Nukem Megaton edition.. but no, they're giving it out for free instead.
Is 3D Realms allowing them to do this?

>>771896
Collecting a large quantity of 2.5 dimensional retro FPS games for a master torrent of sorts for every ones advantage. So far, I have over 100 games, and am nearing completion, but have 11 more games left to finish. I have already downloaded EVERY game on this list (EXCLUDING PATHWAYS INTO DARKNESS FUCKING MACINTOSH), but have yet to test them to see if they work, and have yet to write setup help text files. I am always accepting more videogame titles you feel should be added to the list if I missed them! Note, I am not looking for light gun or 'on rails' shooters. I want ones with some freedom to where you move! I also am not looking for full realtime 3 dimensional shooters like Quake or Unreal.
Here are all the games to be included.
http://pastebin.com/Z10mYPyU

It takes awhile to compile the files because I have to test them to ensure they work! I have not implemented the Amiga games into the 'wave' organizational scheme yet because I have not played them, thus do not know which they would belong. They are at the bottom of the list currently.

If you have a Macintosh....
>>768213 >>768213 >>768213

>>771947
i make ur mom squirm like 2.5d in bed lol

www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-forever

>>771962
who u're think ur talking 2 m8?

>>771970
m8 i oughta punch u right in da gabba u cheeky piece of shite

>>771984
i got us a tuph guy over here i did m8 i did

ogres are like onions

>>771984
You drive like a baboon in heat.

You move like a pregnant yak

Just a quick post regarding a few things

As you may know, I've finally managed to upload the final pack featuring The Top 100 WADS Of All Time (>>768091). MEGA acted like a cunt two days ago and I picked another filehosting service as an alternative. However, I'm still looking forward to upload that pack in there, and of course, if anyone takes the time to do the work for me, I'll be forever grateful if you do so.

Now, you may be asking: "When are you going to pick the Cacowards?". Being honest, I have no idea. I still need to think about how should I organize that thing, because I was looking forward to include the winners of each year, PLUS the runner-ups, honorable mentions and whatnot. But then when Eric asked me about a certain Caco winner I couldn't find the damn bastard in the original /idgames link. I hope that I won't encounter with big annoyances such as tracking old filenames and PM'ing the authors for them.

But I mean, just look at the quantity of the WADS included in the first half of the intended ultimate pack, they're 102 WADS plus additional bugfixes and special editions; the Cacoward pack can wait for the moment.

I think that's all what I wanted to express. Oh, and if you want me to include a few other things in the Resources pastebin (last link in the OP pasta) make sure to tell me about them, I'm all ears.

>>772051
you look like a stupid

I am no longer including Duck Hunt in the torrent(I was foolish in thinking it was a pioneer of the genre!), and have just stripped wikipedia of early fps games for me to work on when I get the chance. Good night.

>>771554
>get shotgun
You are now carrying the Shotgun.
>kill cacodemon
You fire your Shotgun and circlestrafe!
The cacodemon misses!
>kill cacodemon
You fire your Shotgun! The cacodemon dies!
>_

If only.

>>771947
I'm not sure if it counts but you might want to look at a game called Midwinter, it's a very early 2.5D FPS-RPG hybrid.

Anyone knows the name of the tracks of Who Dun It mod?

I'm especially interested in d_final1, d_final2 and d_final3 and that track that occurs twice or so in the new map, that starts with piano. I think it plays in castaway map or the pyramid one, but I'm not sure.

>>771920
>Valve giving away
>Valve could just as easily sell it
>Valve
You...really are clueless, aren't you?

Why are there lately so many mexicans on Zandronum? All those spics are ruining the game.

Alright, guys, give me some ideas of monsters to frankensprite, and I'll see if I can get around 'em

>>772830

Replace Mancubi's head with the imp one

>>772830
Reverse-engineer the Mancubus. Remove its arm-launchers with meaty hands and when it hits you it knocks you back really far

>>772817
They've always been there. I think they're brazillian anyway. Isn't Brazil huge into Doom?

>>772830
Completely roboticize the Arch-Vile, and make his attack like this:
He opens his palms and fires wide pale yellow railgun-like beams, that instead of dealing damage out in massive bursts, quickly drain life.

>>772858
Brazil is huge into F2P.

>>772858
Nope. Their community has like 3 or 4 active members.

>>772884
I must be thinking of something else.

>>772235
...Actually...
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/FOOM!

>>772051
nice fan art.

>>772039
how is this for kung fu fighting you chicken shittt?

>>773057
Oops! Lo Wang dropped soap! You bend over get it, ha ha!

hi

Dear mappers,

If you're gonna have doors automatically open, then make them stay open. Nothing is more frustrating than have a door slam in your face when you're using the rocket launcher, and then having to dance around like a headless chicken with diarrhea looking for the fucking linedef to trigger the damn thing again.

>>773378

Sup, planning on updating the 4Doom zip file? It would be a nice idea to have the Doombro comics

>>772039
I like sword. It's a personal weapon

HOLY SHIT

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1175305

>>774142

>>774142

OH BOY, HERE WE GO

>>773254
You want to wash Wang, or watch Wang wash wang?

>>771879
>So did Shadow Warrior
It's a build engine issue, so yeah and so did blood.

That being said, Shadow Warrior and Blood can suck my dick for all I care, they're both shit balanced/paced. And no amount of clumsy kung fu B movies or brooding edgy emo motifs will override that fact. While duke relied on stolen one liners, generic action/scifi plot it worked where it needed to (mostly), the gameplay.

So when is the new ROTT coming out?

>>774353
This season

SOON™

>>774381

OH MAN

>>772909
Oh wow.

>w
Dingy Corner
Peering through the gloom caused by a bad light attenuation algorithm, you can just make out this corner of the room. The walls are streaked and grimy. The room opens out to the north, east, and northeast.
You see a health bonus here.

>get health
Your health just improved!

>n
Bad Spot
This side of the room forms an entry for the vestibule to the west. The room you're in disappears into the gloom east of here. The depression is directly east of you now. Through the doorway to the west
you can just make out some stairs. The pillars around the depression prevent movement to the northeast and southeast. If you were playing a harder level of difficulty, you would be being shot at right now. A
barrel is dangerously close to you here.

>>774448
>w
Vestibule
The hangar entrance closes here to form a pokey corridor leading into a room with a central staircase and two pillars on either side of the stairs. The carcase of another marine is just to the southwest.
You see a health bonus, a health bonus, a health bonus, a health bonus, an armour bonus, and an armour bonus here.
A soldier is here.
A soldier is here.
A sergeant at the top of the stairs is here.
A sergeant at the top of the stairs is here.

>shoot enemies
soldier: ( with your pistol )
BLAM BLAM BLAM SPLAT!
Northern soldier dies from the damage you inflicted.

soldier: ( with your pistol )
BLAM BLAM BLAM SPLAT!
Southern soldier dies from the damage you inflicted.

sergeant at the top of the stairs: ( with your pistol )
BLAM BLAM BLAM SPLAT!

sergeant at the top of the stairs: ( with your pistol )
BLAM BLAM BLAM SPLAT!

Nearest sergeant attacks, doing 7 points of damage.

Furthest sergeant attacks, doing 8 points of damage.

>>774470
This game isn't fair. Checking your inventory shouldn't cost a turn. I love that this is real and that I'm playing it, though.

>i
You have a pistol (being wielded) and a lamp (providing light).
Nearest sergeant misses you.
Furthest sergeant attacks, doing 1 point of damage.

>Thursday evening
>no vr servers active on Zandronum

>>774521
Let's host something. A /vr/ server sounds great right now. But what to play?

>>772830
Lower half of a Cyberdemon with the Spider Mastermind on top of it.

>>774553
fractal samsara with reventantation hangman ctf survival invasion with /pol/.wad

>>774562
I'd host that if it made any sense. I'm sorry.

>>774580
thats the joke

>>774490
>This game isn't fair.
You can't play as well as normal doom, of course it's not fair. You should be able to get through most of it barely getting hit unless overwhelmed.

>>772830
Master Archcyberville.
Archville, Revennant, Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind mixed into one.

>>774687
>homing rapid fire cyberdemon rockets AND revenant flames

...

>captcha lellfin for

>>774709
fuck me i meant arch-ville flames

>>772362
Adding, thank you!
Also, >>771882, I still need those Master Levels

>>774687
You added arch twice in the name.
It should be Master Archcybernant.

>>771920
>Valve

Just because its on steam doesn't mean Valve are the ones directly selling it.

>>774735
Never mind, have the Master Levels now in a .pk3.

>>774521
I'm playing on the Cyberrunner test server sooooooooooo

>>774891
>>774923

definitely. lms cyberrunner is surprisingly fun.
feels a lot like quake.

>>774891
Pretty damn fun. Deathmatch is bestmatch

>>774687
>>774713
>Archville
A town full of Archviles. Archviles in every house, archvile behind the counter at the drugstore, archviles pushing their carts through the grocery store, archvile run fire department, archvile run police station, archvile run post office

No need for a graveyard though

>wahhhh change ur name i dont like it >:( dont be racist!

spic lover

:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ CTF SAMSARA
pass: vidyagaems

get in here

>>774327
Quake 1 still has better and more replayable gameplay than doom.

>>774954
pass isn't working

>>774963
Quake 2>Quake 1>Quake 3>Quake 4> Quake Wars

>>774971
Nope.
Q1>Q3>Q2=Q4

>>774971
Nope, quake 1 has both the best single and multiplayer.

you're a casual if you argue otherwise

What are dmflags and compatflags and how do I configure and set them up? (best ever)

>>774954
>inb4 everyone is Security Officer

>>774980
>>774981
The sound was horrible, the guns weren't pleasing, the campaign is short, the multiplayer was smeh, the colors were dark and almost the same color, the level structures were all similar and no real variety, nice try.

Quake One is good, but in no way the best. Quake Two improved on everything, like a sequel is supposed to.

>>775009
Quake 2 got boring quick. Gameplay wise it just wasn't on par. But this is all opinion anyway. Quake 2 would probably be a lot of fun coop, but single player I just can't stay interested. I was playing Unreal around that time anyway, and found it to be a vastly superior game.

>>775009
You're fucking shit. like really bad.

one thing to complain about singlepalyer but multiplayer? you're just pure fucking shit

What's the name of this wad that has skins of shrek and lo wang?

>>775016
Have you ever played Quake 2's multiplayer? Wonderful. Compared to Quake 1's multiplayer? Ecstatic.

>>775032
Funny. When I tried Quake 2 coop, people were dropping all the time, the server was crashing, and it was generally shit.

Quakeworld, on the other hand? Fantastic.

>>775032
casual

Doom 4

>>775068
I cannot wait for it. I can only hope that they actually revert the gameplay back a decade or two. Too bad, they recently restarted to work from scratch on the game. Either way, consider my tokens spent, and that game pre-ordered.

>>775124
New engine, old gameplay, love.

>>775124
John Carmack seems to be deeply in favor of going back to the roots, and we need some new 90s run and gun.

>>775140
They seriously don't seem to listen to shit that Carmack says gameplay-wise, even though every time he's opined on the topic I've pretty much agreed with him.

*shrug*, I sincerely hope D4 is a great game. 1993 mechanics, 2014 graphics, and some moddable everything/decent multi.

>>775068
Doom 4 is most likely going to suck dick.

>>775217
Hypocrite.

>Read Masters of Doom
>Realize that I'll never be smart as Carmack or Romero
>Realize that I'll never be smart period.

Well, at least my sister will be successful, bein' a cosmetic surgeon and all.

>>775249
Don't feel bad. I'm a borderline genius who's accomplished absolutely fucking nothing ever.

Drive + intelligence. Really not nearly as good without the other.

>>775014
>Gameplay wise it just wasn't on par.
With the other Quakes it is.
>Unreal around that time anyway, and found it to be a vastly superior game.
And I found Unreal to be a vastly unpolished, slow, buggy, stiff shooter that was below average for most games not even trying to be on par with quake. Which banked on a few graphical novelties and Epic's reputation which quite frankly was overrated given their title quality was spotty at best.

>>775249

>>775245
You don't seem to know what that word means.

> a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Point out the hypocrisy you dipshit.

>>775259
Not him, but maybe he's referring to the fact that he's in the Doom threads?

I still don't see it, that's the best I could come up with it.

A little late, but I forgot to mention to the Anon asking for Quakes music in the form of .pk3 files that I also have the expansions to the games music in the same form. If you want it, I can give you that as well.

>>770228

A mod you played likely set movebob to 0, and RealGuns probably restored the setting.

Type "movebob 0.25" (minus quotations) for the default bobbing value.

>>775259
It just wouldn't be as funny if you understood.

>>775279
i believe he is insinuating that you will be sucking dick.

>>775262
>Not him, but maybe he's referring to the fact that he's in the Doom threads?
You're right not to see it because if you actually saw that line of thinking you'd be an idiot. I love doom because it's good, could it be better, damn right. But that still doesn't mean jack shit about id making bad game after bad game since Q3. They've demonstrated that they are incompetent at making games now. Doom 3 was fucking terrible, awful as fuck weapons, AI, level design, missed the point of doom, shoehorned nice tech into a poor mans knock off of system shock. They even botched up the audio support and framerate. Fucked over the standardization of lighting for multiplayer. The multiplayer even played differently from the singleplayer which is a shit thing to do.
Q4 did better in the multiplayer arena but still had shit unplayable netcode and the singleplayer also packed fairly shit gameplay. (yeah Q4 was developed by raven, under the guidance and control of id. They oversaw the production and design aspects Willits was the exec producer.)
Rage was shit on a stick.
They also went and fucked up Q3A releasing a shitty restricted broken balanced with worse netcode pay to play version just so they could host stats and match making/pseudomaster server.
They re-released a version of the original doom titles that was worse than the original.

Even Quake 3 which was their last saving grace had fairly shoddy support and issues that some didn't get cleaned up or worked on and they managed to fuck with the master servers anyway.

I'd be a fucking hypocrite if I said Doom 4 is expected to be good. Because I obviously don't see id as anything but incompetent and trying to shake a buck, these days.

>>775249
Hey, look on the bright side!

You're mother isn't outright stealing from you.

>>775253
Sure you fucking are. Your IQ scores mean nothing to true genius.

You don't know what true genius is.

>borderline
You’re either a genius or you aren't.

>>774963
I'm sorry but Quake 1's Single Player is absolutely boring as shit compared to doom.

>>775361
Doom's is just the same fucking thing over and over

also it looks like a kid's game
so much for "DOOM"

>>775365
>Doom's is just the same fucking thing over and over
But Quake 1 is rockets: the video game. It doesn't even have bosses. The only time you'd ever even think about switching from rockets is to super nailgun a shambler, but you could probably just rocket jump and avoid the shambler entirely.

But Doom is super shotgun: the video game. It doesn't even have mini-bosses. The only time you'd ever even think about switching from super shotgun is to bfg a cyberdemon, but you could probably just strafe around and avoid the cyberdemon's rockets entirely.

>also you fucking idiot quake does have fucking bosses

>>775394
>Doom
>super shotgun
I suppose next you'll tell me Quake 1 had a BFG.

>Doom doesn't have minibosses
Barons of Hell fill that role pretty well.

>Quake does have bosses
Shub-Niggurath doesn't do a goddamn thing and Chthon only exists to keep you from standing still to laugh at it. Hardly bosses the way the Cyberdemon or the Spider Mastermind are.

>>775413
Quake on nightmare is harder (n a good way and not tard way like doom nightmare) than doom ultra-violence.

It's better everything really.
And the community isn't filled with a bunch of illiterate furfag brony eastern europeans and south americans spouting memes

>>775413
>minibosses
>barons of hell
>being this bad

>>775413
>spider mastermind
>hide behind wall when it shoots at you
>cyberdemon
>strafe around rockets

WOW SO CHALLENGING

Also modding quake is a lot harder to do which means you can do a lot more with it than doom and it keeps the retards out.

>>775423
>Chthon
>run around and press switches
>Shub-Niggurath
>walk through a teleporter at the right time
WOW SO CHALLENGING

>>775376
>It doesn't even have bosses.
It has two, chthon and shub niggerwrath. Not counting the expansion packs.
Doom only has one, Romeros fucking head. Otherwise all it has is stock enemies. Rarer, but still enemies found in various maps doing their thing.

>>775427
Making a game on the nintendo64 was a lot harder to do than PS1/PS2 and Xbox which means you can do more with it right?

>>775427
>>775419
>And the community isn't filled with a bunch of illiterate furfag brony eastern europeans and south americans spouting memes
>Also modding quake is a lot harder to do which means you can do a lot more with it than doom and it keeps the retards out.
I think I'd prefer the"illiterate furfag brony eastern europeans and south americans spouting memes" to a bunch of elitist scumbags.

And if Quake is so good, how come it doesn't have constant threads here? How come the Quake threads that are made hardly reach 100 posts before they die to someone asking about essential SNES games? Most importantly: how come it's the Quake fans shitting up the Doom threads, and not vice versa?

>>775449
Yeah, everyone knows that programming for the Saturn was a bitch and a half, I guess that means it was superior to the PSX, right?

>>775394
>But Doom is super shotgun: the video game.
Entirely disagree.
Something like 90% of the time it's better to use the chainsaw, chaingun, normal shotgun or plasma and rocket.
There are situations that call for the super such as when you come up to barons/knights/revenants/archviles.<wbr> But most of the game you'll be fighting varioous zombies, chaingunners, pinkies, imps.
Cocklots and pain elementals are middle ground, if you need to move, shotgun/plasma/rockets will do the job fine, saving plasma if you have the BFG for what needs preferably, but if you can deal with a big of lag up, chainsaw is the best option. RL should be used if they're at a distance or you can't dance with them with the supershot or are in prox to a crowd.
So the super shotguns only real use is when you need to put down the bigger guys who are rarer and even then it depends on the situation where it may be one of three options to based on situation.
Everything else, the chainsaw, chaingun and normal shotgun are more efficient and faster to deal with most of the time.

>>775453
>And if Quake is so good, how come it doesn't have constant threads here?
Not him, but argument ad populum does not fly here. Please refrain from asking stupid questions.

Thats being said, Quake's strong point was multiplayer, I'd agree that Doom had better single player based on weapon balance, amount and balance of enemies. The amount user support and customization also helped give it longer life. Quake because it was 3D in a time when 3D wasn't so fast kind of played the balance towards fighting less enemies over the same time rather than more enemies over the same period. Though it's entirely about the level design really since tossing you an abundance of rockets or shafts and nails tends to really put a dent in most monsters quickly, but they're rather conservative with that. Likewise the multiplayer requires extremely balanced levels as the weapons are situational and not having access to them makes it difficult to compete, much like having a single rocket launcher on a level more so if you put it in a difficult and enclosed place like dm3 which is infamous for it's shitty placement that causes hang ups and which net worthwhile speak when a team outscores you with a ton of teamwork and shotgun raping the team holding it. The flow of that level is fairly fucking terrible.

It's true that Quake isn't as popular as Doom. Nowadays, for pre HL FPS games, the modding/mapping communities are the biggest for Doom, then probably Duke, and then Quake last.

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