/vr/ - Retro Games

Is players 8 even worth it in the end? I remember reading about it as a kid and doing it ever since, but I never stopped to think if it's worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEqfAN5IylE

>>7698575
Is he drunk?

>>7698432
>but I never stopped to think if it's worthwhile.
How could you think about something you don't even understand?

Players X is worth it if it doesn't slow down your kill speed. Also boss drops aren't affected beyond a certain point. Like Diablo, Baal and Meph are players 3 capped for max drops, andariel 5. Pindleskin is entirely unaffected, so it's best to run him at P1 unless you're some retard after rune drops from his minions or something. Which, really, you should be pindle running as a find item/howl barb anyway for max efficiency, completely ignoring minions.

Also players X is good for XP, too. Which is not affected by the above cap.

>>7698587
Probably.

>>7698591
>Which, really, you should be pindle running as a find item/howl barb anyway for max efficiency
ww barbs can use find item too, you know.

>>7698701
None of what I said left whirlwind out. I didn't even mention an attacking skill. Do you have a reading comprehension issue?

>>7698591
Lava skeleton is like, "Finally, my time to shine!"

>>7698721
>howl

My Hellforge dropped me a Gul!

>>7698837
Howl is not an attacking skill, newfag. It scares enemies away, meaning less time to both kill pindle and less time using find item.

>>7698881
You don't even remember your previous post and you tell me I have a reading comprehension issue? Tell me how you use howl in combination with whirlwind.

>>7698925
Fucking right click once dumbass. It aoes the screen. Soon as you enter the pindle building. Then start whirlwind. Takes .5 seconds.

Imagine being this new. How embarrassing.

>>7698962
lmao ok

Any recommendations on what mods to use if i am a single player person? i am considering enjoy-sp,any experience with it?

>>7699703
What kind of experience do you want? Enjoy SP is basically just a drop mod, so it's fun if you want to get everything easily, not so fun if you want a grind.

>>7699708
i am just having a hard time justifying myself on to try single player and having goals when everyone here plays multiplayer right?

Blizzard somehow locked my account for "suspicious activity" and wont let me back in it. Cunts. And no, I legitimately wasn't doing things, I don't cheat in games I pay for because that's a risk I'm not willing to take. I guess pirated D2 isn't playable on Bnet obviously-speaking?

>>7699713
I think the majority are single player and unmodded (sans basemod/plugy), although some play singleplayer mods, some play multiplayer mods and some play bnet. Personally, I think being able to throw a billion items into a gigantic stash is the main purpose of Diablo 2, so I don't even consider touching multiplayer.

>>7699734
>>7699713
Wait I'm retarded, that should be "excepting for basemod/plugy", anyone who plays singleplayer tends to use at least those mods since they add various QOL benefits. Anyways, I didn't really conclude anything either, but justifications seem to vary quite a bit based on what people play
>single player with basemod/plugy: goals are killing Hell Baal, grail, single pass and/or hardcore
>multiplayer: trade shit and get rich, except that doesn't really work anymore due to botting
>modding: completion of the mod, the good mods will have stupid gimmicks to keep you entertained, like stronger monsters or overpowered skills or something
>multiplayer mods: trade shit and get rich
I'd say that it is the hardest to justify modern bnet, you just join rushes and get to the end game within hours, it's very silly.

>>7699770
Any recommendations on said modding quests? or i should try clearing the game vanilla first?

>saw a dream I was playing a really cool Diablo 1 mod
>it had new spells like a cone shaped fire breath thing
>Caves was replaced with a D2 plains of despair style zone
>Hell was replaced with some kind of an ancient ruin dungeon with a dark purple tint
>there were new monsters like steel golems at the endgame zone that were huge like death knights except a lot wider
>everything about the gameplay felt completely true to the original D1 despite the new stuff unlike other mods
It was so good, tfw it's not real

>my first waifu

>>7699778
Oh, I thought you had at least played the game before since you were asking for mods. Definitely don't do modding autism (again, except for QOL mods like PlugY and Basemod) until after you have some experience. If you want to play the game, this is the order most people go through:
>Diablo 1
>Diablo 2 Classic
>Diablo 2 Pre-synergies
>Diablo 2 Post-synergies
>Diablo 1/2 with autism mods like The Hell or MXL
You can start at post-synergies or even mods right away if you want, but it'll be brutal in the later difficulties since they assume you know what you are doing and know how to distribute your skill points. Or if you only plan on playing through one difficulty, then you can start on post-synergies and it shouldn't be a problem.

>>7699713
Almost everyone here that talks is offline singleplayer. Either modded or vanilla.

>>7699781
You now have the vision to make a good D1 mod.
Go forth and do it anon.

MrLlama just found Mang Song's Lesson

Pack it up boys, D2 is over.

>>7699703
MXL embrace the autism and join us

>>7700329
Really? What's he gonna do now? I assume he's already got all runewords by this point?

Full time speed running? Ethereal grail?

>>7700396
Eth grail, he did the whole grail entirely on his sorc so he wants to actually start using other characters now

Which is great because watching him grind Ancient Tunnels non-stop was boring af

>>7700329
fucking took him long enough.
he's been trying to find specifically that unique for like 3 or 4 months now, if not more.

>>7700396
either an Eth grail or we could probably convince him to install one of those mods that adds 1000 extra uniques for him to find.
or see if we can convince him to install Anon's 1.15 mod.

>>7698592
Wow this is racist

>>7700329
Really? So he found it before d2r dropped. Nice.

>>7700432
Good.

>>7700430
He's been looking for Mang Songs alone for 2 years now

>>7699703
modmaker is really fun to dick around in

>>7700432
And that's a GOOD thing.

>>7698701
>>7698837
>>7698925
>>7699007
Get a load of this faggot. What a fuckwit.

>>7700432
literally how?
cuz there's little black cunts in it?

>>7700329
Share the clip, now. I want to witness this.

>>7700713
>>7700713
https://www.twitch.tv/mrllamasc/clip/InexpensiveSpookyDurianTheRinger

>>7700713
clip
https://clips.twitch.tv/InexpensiveSpookyDurianTheRinger-OyzQhbTpHZpWiCwU

Full video
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1004427370

Skip to 3 hours 38.5 mins.

>>7700713
>>7700720
oops.
>https://www.twitch.tv/mrllamasc/clip/InexpensiveSpookyDurianTheRinger-OyzQhbTpHZpWiCwU

>>7700713
>>7700720
>>7700721
>>7700724
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig1YNMEMIwo
One left 2 years ago.

>>7700721
>>7700720
>>7700724
Thank you, anons. It certainly took him long enough to finally complete the grail. It's absurd how long it took for Mang Song's to pop up. I wonder what he'll be doing now.

>>7700729
Sometimes RNG just shits on you. There was an anon here a few years ago who didn't find a single Herald of Zakarum until his last 5 or so items, from memory. Which is pretty fucking crazy unlucky.

>>7700729
It was really unlucky of him and I guess his schedule of just magic finding on mondays also affected it.
Although he got 3 death's web and 2 Astraeon's before getting one fucking mang song's.

>>7700768
Meanwhile I already have 2 mang songs but not one Dfathom or Dweb.

>>7700806
Meanwhile I have one page of stash with Archon Staves and no mang songs

>>7700934
Is that supposed to be impressive? What's the odds of an archon staff being unique? Probably more than a stash page I'll bet.

>>7700937
No it's supposed to show I'm frustrated at farming a mang songs

>mfw i found mang song's on my first grail after about 7 months but was missing about 30 items half of which were exceptional

>>7700643
Anime fags have no business talking shit about anyone. Fuck off manchild

>>7701164
>as he posts on an anime imageboard

>>7701180

>>7701203
Your reaction images need work. I'm sure I've got a dozen better versions of "gas yourself" from /pol/ myself somewhere.

>>7701340

>>7701180
>/vr/
>anime

>>7700643
Maki is based and you should feel bad for using her for low effort shitposting.

>>7701356
I'm starting to think all slavs have autism since they are so terrible at communication.

>>7701367
You never start to think about anything, weebshit.

>>7701356
Nobody understand the fucking images your posting without google translate. At least use a close up face for an expression to get around the language barrier, you mongoloid.

>>7701363
>4chan
>not anime
Get out, newfag.

>>7701386

>>7701403
There ya go. That's a bit better.

>>7701405

>>7700721
>so and so gifted a sub to "jizzmaster whatever" right before it dropped and the robot lady read it

That was really easy, I thought the Ancients would give me some problems but Obedience+Gface on my Merc is really powerful. too bad I couldn't find a Lem rune for a treachery.
I enjoyed playing Summonmancer.

>>7701530
Yeah that's summon necros for you. They'll never be the fastest, but they are probably the easiest.

>just saved and exited a cham rune

I don't mean to alarm you lads, but I did just find an AMN rune.

>>7701590
I'll try bone necro soon enough.

>>7701635
Is that a mod?

>>7701718
Yes.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/skiller

Plus

>>7687379
>>7687394
>>7687485

>just casually wanting to get to level 85 with <100 MF
Uuuh that felt weird but pretty nice drop.

>>7702052
Damn, gratz buddy.

is Death any good for a barb? it has no ias so it kind of sucks for a frenzy barb, the crushing blow on it is really good, but it's no use for a whirlwind barb since you need a weapon with good ias on your main hand, as an off-hand it would be really good if the crushing blow from your off-hand weapon would count

>>7702145
No IAS is fine for Frenzy, since you can abuse counterweighting. A Phase Blade (-30 WIAS) + Colossus Blade (+10 WIAS) gives a net of -50 WIAS, faster than dual wielding two Phase Blades. Using Grief PB + Death CB with level 8+ Frenzy will hit the IAS limit.

>>7702107
It feels weird. I have a sorc with 470% MF and she hasn't found those. But thanks.

>>7702145
>any good
A grandfather, despite being massively outclassed is still "good". A fucking crushflange and strength dual wield is "good", capable of clearing hell. Where do you draw the line? what build and skills are you playing? how much attack speed? how much crushing blow do you have? Is "good" meta for you?" Or is "good" fun?

Dumb question.

>>7702171
are you on your period or something you fucking autist? if you have nothing of value to say then shut your mouth you snobby faggot

>>7702145
>is Death any good for a barb?
By the time you're able to consider using a Death, you should be able to answer this question yourself. I don't understand you people sometimes.

>>7702179
He's right though. It's so open ended a question as to be pointless to ask.

>>7702052
I'll hold of on congratulating you until I know if they're +2 or not.

>>7702145
It would be busted if it had IAS since it has nearly everything else, also what >>7702160
said, and also the glacial spike proc is amazing with frenzy.

>>7702185
i'm sorry next time i'll make sure to form my questions with as much immaculacy as possible so all autists can comprehend

>>7702196
>immaculacy
How about you try using some thought instead, prior to asking?

>>7702196
What kind of answer are you even after?

>>7702187
>I'll hold of on congratulating you until I know if they're +2 or not.
They are +2!

>>7702205
i have already received a satisfying answer >>7702160
but a certain individual was so butthurt by my question not being specific enough, that he felt the need to throw a tantrum

>>7702215
With enough knowledge to consider using a death, you should already be able to make a judgement about its stats and how your build would play out with them and what you would need to do to incorporate it and if you should.

I just don't get your mindset. Is this your first character?

>>7702210
And almost max dex too. I kneel.

>>7702225
i have already made my judgement that it's not worth making, but i thought that perhaps someone here could offer a different point of view that would convince me to do otherwise, i honestly don't get what the big deal is

>>7702210
Very nice!

>>7702227
>>7702243
Thanks.

>>7702160
>counterweighting
Could you give me a quick rundown of how this works? I know that off-hand weapon somehow affects attack speed but I don't know the mechanics behind it.

>>7702298
>https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Two_weapons
Pretty much every obscure skill or stat related mechanic or "feature" is detailed on Amazon Basin.

>>7702232
>i honestly don't get what the big deal is
>big %ED
>DS
>Indestructible
It's rare to get all 3, it's just big-dick damage that few other things can match, assuming you can get AR and IAS elsewhere.

>https://mega.nz/file/tL5ygAAQ#ARG3m2Fm4tEBz8hcZLBI7QMirbHFH80wW4aa_8xu6zQ
The first version of Muttmod is ready. I didn't finish all the monsters, but there are around 200 of them, all Diablo 1 variants that spawn throughout various areas. Be warned that this mod will be horrifically buggy, I have not done any testing on it outside of messing around with new monsters in the Cold Plains with hacked characters. Don't be surprised if some of the new monsters are pathetically weak or obnoxiously strong. There are also a handful of super monsters that drop better loot, but are usually much more dangerous. A document was included in MUTTIFICATION which describes all the monster changes.

Also, note that there is an extreme exploit (this exploit also exists on many other mods), in that any cube recipe which adds stats will re-apply ethereal to armor (aka ethbugging, except it has no limit here). You can easily get a piece of ethereal armor that hits the defense limit within hours of starting the mod. Especially abusable with forced indest/eth armors.

Also, I didn't bother writing down all the recipes since it's boring. Look in cubemain.txt included in the documentation folder with any excel file editor, it's pretty obvious what things do/need. The only part that is kind of confusing is gem requirements, which are written in code: gAB
>g is always present
>A is the grade, so c=chipped, f=flawed, s=standard, l=flawless, p=perfect
>B is the type, so b=blue=sapphire, y=yellow=topaz, v=violet=amethyst, etc
So for example, if a recipe needs a gpy, then that means perfect topaz. Skulls don't follow convention, so just know that
>skc=chipped skull
>skf=flawed skull
>sku=standard skull
>skl=flawless skull
>skz=perfect skull
Also of course r01=el rune, r02=eld rune, etc.

If anyone actually enjoys this clusterfuck, then I'll add/steal Infinity Engine monsters, new hirelings and even more uniques/sets/runewords/recipes.

>>7702513
You're a fucking champ. Thanks so much. Had a good kek at the D2SE banner.

Gonna have so much fun with this. I am genuinely thinking of trying for a long term grail project with it.

>>7684558

TO RECAPITULATE:

It took me 11 days of lk to get the infinity runes. I then started doing p8 pits for a base on the 12th. Found griffon's eye on the 21st, tal rasha's armor on the 23rd, with no mf, and no infinity base. I stopped doing pits on the 26th, after 2 weeks of no infinity base, and did nm Andariel for the amulet, and then hell Mephisto for the orb. Didn't find the latter and went back to pits today. Found it in pits with no mf and THEN I found an ethereal giant thresher with 4 sockets. Meanwhile rack shitters STILL have not explained why racks are better.

There's a bug with plugy at the moment. If you put an item in the shared stash without anything being in the personal one, the item in the shared will be invisible and unselectable and you can't place anything in the slot anymore. Placing something into the personal stash fixes it.

>>7702579
Just rack it bro.

>>7702596
meant to add, these will occur when saving and exiting.

>>7702596
1.14d? That's big

>>7702639
Both 1.13 and 1.14. Happens with D2SE, vanilla, 1.15 mod and anons new muttmod. Made sure to try with a completely fresh plugy stash, too.

>>7702513
Got a crash.
>place alchemy shard into stash
>change tab, then try to go back into tab with alchemy shard

>>7702869
It's fixed now, for some reason the poecurrencymod uses the "ques" itemtype for shards, which is the same as quest items. Not surprised that caused a crash. I'm uploading the fixed version now.

>>7702869
>https://mega.nz/file/sbYkWTKT#unP75T4vIeWgQZiHKywbOKahSZGCuTGIC-JfEOrbcic
Had to re-upload it after realizing the Mirror Orb, which is as rare as a Zod rune, also uses the bugged "ques" itemtype.

>>7701363
>/f/
>/t/
>non weeb boards
/f/ is probably the 2nd weebiest board on the site, and /t/ is literally 90% JAVs and hentai

>>7702981
You're amazing, thanks anon. Been really enjoying it so far, just been farming countess a little. Went through tristram and got my shit pushed in by some balrog champ pack. Reminded me of a D1 fight with how often they were triggering my hit recovery.

>>7701646
bone necro's good at the start. Teeth isnt awful and scales well thru Normal.
Nightmare's not too bad when you switch to Bone Spear. Zones like Arcane and Maggot Lair are easy cuz the enemies are all lined up.
You'll hate Act 3 NM tho.
You need to pair Boner with at least a few points into CE so you have a decent AoE.
From then on out Boner gets harder and harder as you start needing GG heavily-twinked pimped-out end-game gear to keep up.

Anyone playing Boner in Hell usually either has mad skills/patience, or crazy good gear they've farmed from Plugy or bought off of trade sites on bnet.

>Try installing "The hell 1" mod for diablo 1
>Please insert disc
>Windows 10 btw
Please no,i dont wanna start dealing with bullshit that needs 5 workarounds just to work

>>7703159
Beelzebub is better and its not 2GB in filesize at least

>>7703159
Well i managed to install it,apparently i just need the quest mpq file from Diablo 1 and thats it,Now the issue is it crashes when trying to run fullscreen yet it runs windowed perfectly

>>7702579
That's actually you in the gifs you post isn't it?

>>7702579
Shut the fuck up already with your incessant whining you stupid fucking niggerfaggot. Rack it or get the fuck out.
Annoying subhuman.

>>7702681
I'll keep note of that thanks anon

>>7703000
I'm watching Mrllama's video about it. Halfway through nightmare and he's still breezing through.
Thanks for the tips anon. I actually got a 2os +3 to bone spear wand as I tried "farming" for a +3 RS/SM wand on my summoner so that'll be the only "twinked" item I'll pass down if I can't find any better.

>>7702681
Have you already reported this to plugy makers?

>>7703762
nice
slap a "White" runeword into it if you can, or keep checking drognan until you get one.
Worth it to have a wand that gives like +8 to bone spear.
bone prison is pretty essential to survive as a bonemancer later on, as the spear only does a couple thousand dmg even with plus a bajillion to skills.

>40,000 pindle runs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm91vv-kyhI

>>7704417
He's back!

Can't wait to get raped in hell mode.

>>7702513
Feels like every second item has +1 delirium in this mod.

>>7703419
>be me
>get what i'm looking for by the method i affirm
>be you
>can't even explain how your method is superior
>can't even link one respectable source agreeing with you
>don't even understand basic item generation
>probably think random normal items are rare because you've only ever done baal runs
>probably think threshers are rare because you're conflating their endgame use with their rarity
>be gay

You could elaborate on the superiority of the amazon and assassin (>>7682952), not to mention on the logic behind your whole ranking, if nothing else. You're depriving the community of knowledge worse than the pits have deprived me of the thresher.

>>7704490
you forgot
>be me
>waste 10x the amount of time required to get what I'm looking for because I'm a stubborn asshole unwilling to try anything for himself

When you were first crying about not getting it several threads back, I, out of curiosity, went and did the rack method. I had 3 of them in less than one day. No more than a few hours.

>>7704493

What does this prove? I found a griffon's eye with no mf in about 35 hours of p8 pits. Is running pits with no mf a good way of getting griffon's eye?

>>7704510
Here's your (you), retard.

>>7704512

Not even an easy one? The answer is definitely NO, by the way.

>>7703964
Yeah here it is, I already put a White on it. I forgot what mods it had but it had +3 Bone Spear before I slapped white. I got really lucky but once I start my Bonemancer I'll try if I have the patience to look for something better.

>>7704480
>https://mega.nz/file/lToChIwI#85MKMuhzyhvYzRzN5RLM4O5v0SE2DgcJM9E588BMiC4
Lel, I forgot to remove the test affix. While doing that, I realized Talonrage's plugin has a ton of broken properties which scale improperly with stats, so I disabled those too. Don't think those properties spawn on any items, so it shouldn't matter anyways.

Also, I remembered that Eastern Sun is open source, so I'll add it into the next version.

>>7704490
>t. butthurt whiney faggot

Booba

>great marsh doesnt lead to the flayer jungle

>>7702513
Tal Rashas Tomb is aids incarnate. Damn bats that can revive their own on top of reviving the Hell Knights. I was literally unable to clear the place with a single target character because they were reviving so quickly and from like 3 rooms away. Had to skip everything and just rush to Duriels room.

>>7702513
So what is this exactly? a difficulty autism mod? also the link is dead

>>7705001
>also the link is dead
>>7704582

>>7703419
This rack farming sounds like fucking LK running but anyway, how does it work. Asking out of genuine interest.

Could someone explain to me how does the paladins sacrifice skill works? is it an active? a passive?

>>7705079
>https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Sacrifice
Always use Amazon Basin to understand skill mechanics, it's correct 99% of the time. Sacrifice has a few stupid, hidden rules that make it weaker than it should be.

>>7705079
You slap a monster with a stronger normal attack and you hurt yourself in the process. It's also a level 1 skill so you could like, try it out yourself.

>>7705087
I put a point on it and wasnt sure if i was actually using it or was a passive ability

Fucking great ring for this early.

>>7705001
Not the anon, but it's got a bunch of extra monsters from D1 scattered throughout the game. They add quite a bit of variety and difficulty.

On top of that it adds

>giga inventory (10x9) with bottom for charms
>base(d)mod which gives a ton of features. Read the summary here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/basemod
>PoE currency mod. Does what it says. Adds the path of exile currency items to diablo 2. They are tailored to D2 and do things like rerolling gems and items, corruptions, enhance items etc etc
>Talonrage plugin which adds thousands of uniques and sets, over 300 cube recipies, new item graphics
>super uniques revenge. Over 1000 uniques added and some runewords
>overworked text files which fixes the text for skills to accurately reflect what they really do. Also fixes a bunch of skill and missile issues, makes things work as they should

>>7705093
Did you not read the skill text? Or even try and equip the skill?

>>7705095
Thank you
>>7705098
I did,i am just used to skills doing an apparent effect like other classes,havent played paladin beforehand

>>7705115
>doing an apparent effect
If you hit something, blood spews out of you onto the ground.

>>7705118
MY EYESIGHT IS BAD OKAY? and the game is abit too dark to notice something like that

>>7705125
Everything's okay, blind anon, everything's okay.

>>7705125
Might want to get your hearing checked too if you can't hear the weird sound it makes.

>>7705125
unironic FULL CAPS posting is my favourite kind of seething

>>7705164
i am not seething anon!
>>7705152
My ears are very clean thank you very much
>>7705137
I will just play fire aura paladin once i am near blind sight ,sounds like a easy build to pilot

>>7702513
Vixens in the city of the damned are either too damaging or there are too many of them. Less of either would balance them nicely.

>>7705051
you should search the internet for answers it's well explained already. but basically you roll lk until you get a rack close to wp. then you apply the techniques for manipulating the rack until you get a base you want. if that never happens then you reroll.

Uh,is it fine to level my fire aura if i dont have the recommended gear yet? i can still reset my skill tree later and all that,the wiki recommends to just leave it at 1 but that surely means i kill things extremely slowly

>>7705457
>recommended gear
Jesus Christ. The "recommended gear" is probably for end game or a different build. Whatever guide you've got open, close it. NOW. Never open another one until you actually know how to play the game. 99.9% of written guides on the net are done by fucking idiots who only list the absolute end game meta. Learn what skills do by playing yourself. Following a guide is for gays, retards and gay retards.

>but that surely means i kill things extremely slowly
Congrats, with that deduction you're already smarter than 85% of the people who post here asking questions. Yes level the skill and build around it for its synergies and or whatever gear you find. Then later on swap to one of the better auras like holy freeze, holy shock or fanaticism.

>>7698592
if you took way the runts attacking, it looks like he's dancing like there's no tommorow

>>7705457
If you are playing 1.10f+, then download PlugY so you can respec whenever you want. It's way too easy to fuck yourself over if you don't know what you are doing. The new versions assume you've beaten the game on Hell before.

>>7702513
Feels like Frost Chargers in the frigid highlands are pathetically weak, dying in 1 hit even on P8, while the Snow Witches there are ridiculous. Merc gets annihilated even on P1.

>>7705457
I take it you mean Holy Fire. Yes, you can but it's not very good. It will carry you only at the beginning. The moment you hit level 24 I would recommend you just respec (either with PlugY and if you don't use it, then Akara's quest reward respec) and put everything into Holy Shock. More damage, more fun. Use the fastest weapon you have, it's physical damage doesn't matter. It will probably be some kind of one handed sword.
>>7705480
>obvious noob asks a question about the way to play the game
>FUCK GUIDES FIGURE IT OUT URSELF U DUMM LMAO
These posts of yours are embarrassing. Please refrain from posting this shit next time.

FUCKING FINALLY I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DISPLAY STRINGS WITHOUT USING NEW STATS, I CAN NOW DISPLAY 30000 DIFFERENT STRINGS BABY (MAYBE MORE), NO LONGER AM I LIMITED TO WASTING THE FEW HUNDRED STATS THIS GAME ALLOWS YOU TO MODIFY FOR A SINGLE FUCKING STRING PER POP, FUCK YES I AM THE GOD OF DIABLO 2, ONLY TOOK ME A WHOLE YEAR

Is it fine to play Diablo 2 without playing 1?

>>7705761
Yeah, the games are pretty different so it doesn't really matter which you start with.

Can I play Diablo if I just want to kill everything and leave mangled bodies behind me? Or is it one of these retarded games where corpses despawn or lack blood?
I tried Grim Dawn and it lacked in blood, I was pissed.

Angelic Raiment Set is just unfair for early game paladin.

>>7705532
>>FUCK GUIDES FIGURE IT OUT URSELF U DUMM LMAO
>These posts of yours are embarrassing. Please refrain from posting this shit next time.
he's right though, the guides are fucking crap and they are made for minmaxing baal running retards

>>7705480
>Following a guide is for gays, retards and gay retards.
What about retarded gays?

>>7705928
>complaining about minmaxing in guides
Yes, that's the point of guides, to give you ideas about the best possible way to play the game. Serious guides will also not only throw endgame equip at you but will give you gheto variants ideas, an overview of skills and the order in which to invest skill points and maybe even leveling tips. Exactly what someone new to the game needs.

T-thanks.

>>7706090
biggin's? i personally haven't found lenymo.

>>7706190
I dropped that from Pindle few months ago...

>>7706214
lucky for you

>>7706225
Yeah haha

>>7705251
>>7705510
>>7704981
>https://mega.nz/file/YSo3SIgT#1TuRotfiezA6c1-AtT4Y5wxAosNFmrE4v1olDHuxiAw
Thanks, I made some some adjustments. Less of those succubi will spawn, the Snow Witches have way less cold duration, Horned Demons have life and I weakened the Familiar in level and resurrecting chance. That should make these fights more tolerable in normal difficulty.

>>7704417
epic, simply epic.

>>7704443
WSK lvl 3 rape squad is way worse

>>7705051
This link: https://www.purediablo.com/strategy/repuszs-1-07-diablo-2-guide/ has some good info. Despite what some anons on here are saying, info about racking isn't particularly easy to dig up.

>>7705758
Good work anon. Have other modders learned to do this too?

>>7705758
Oh shit. Could add heaps of flavor text to uniques with this.

Someone REALLY needs to start a "Diablo II for brainlets and noobs" youtube channel. Just explain the most simple, easy stuff like sockets, where to find X item, runewords, countess, extremely basic guide to builds/skills etc etc

Money just waiting to be had.

>>7706524
The 10% to Vitality stat seems to apply to Energy instead.

>>7707903
>>7706524
I'm gonna be posting bugs whenever I find em, btw, so you're probably better off waiting like a day or so, then doing them all at once. Save yourself the time.

>sapphire fiends drop sapphires when you kill them
I love this so much.

>>7706524
infernal pit

>>7706524
Glooms in the Tower don't drop anything.

Are 1.14 plugy ubers harder than the online ones? This guys kills Diablo with lightning with is no infinity, no swapcasting, no griffon's eye. I tried doing it with the same gear, with a griffon's eye, with infinity, with swapcasting, and I could not out-dps the regeneration. His life was going down and back up by only a couple of pixels. He also took no damage at all from blizzard with full tal rasha's. Similarly, Mephisto was taking way less damage from meteor, even when standing still in the bone prison for longer than his ever did. I could kill Baal with lightning though. Is this shit modded or did plugy mess up uber stats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXoK8G97FE8

>>7708234
You need open wounds to prevent regen.

who's the fastest LK runner on Nightmare?

>>7708293

I know. The guy in the video doesn't use it. Making it all the more suspicious.

>>7708301
Check his merc's gear again.

>>7708234
Did he show his Sorc's gear?

>>7708306

Somehow forgot crow caw has open wounds...Still, he does Mephisto with no mercenary and does a lot of damage. I'm not convinced the math checks out on Diablo either. You can kill him that fast with no infinity and no griffon's provided he does not, regenerate, but infinity and griffon's are not enough to out-dps the regeneration? I can kill Dclone without stopping his regeneration way faster than he kills Uber Diablo, and they have 95% and 75% lightning resistance, respectively, and the same amount of life. VERY suspicious.

>>7708234
>>7708301
Literally in the first fucking second of the video

>>7708329
His kelpie snare has it too.

>>7708234
Have you considered that, maybe, you're just shit at the game?

>>7708350

How would being better or worse at the game affect fixed numeric values and their interactions?

>>7708234
>I tried doing it with the same gear
Exact same gear? Like down to the facets and charms?

>>7708234
>>7708329
>>7708358

More specifically, and hopefully to prevent further moronic replies, Blizzard's own site claims Dclone and Uber Diablo have about the same hp, and 95% and 75% lightning resistance, respectively. Without stopping their regeneration, I could not kill the former without infinity, but I could kill him in about 10 seconds after static damage with infinity. The latter, however, took little to no damage from the same build.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act5-uberdiablo.shtml
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act5-pandiablo.shtml

>>7708391
Fine, I'll do it myself instead of throwing around assumptions and crying here like you.

Give me 30 mins, I'll spawn his exact gear in hero editor and try it out.

Made the character.

If anyone else wants to try: https://filebin.net/tnxurvll5skmq4gx

>>7708404
Here is the character. Anyone else want to try as well?

https://filebin.net/cjw0tqk1bsny44tu

>>7708234
Uber Diablo fully regenerates in 41 seconds, whereas Pandemonium Diablo takes 82 seconds. That can easily be the difference between dealing damage and out-regenerating damage.

Any tips for a hammerdin?

>>7708391

Never mind, tried it again today and there seems to be an issue on my end with Ubers' life display. I shoot Diablo with lightning, his life bar does not move, I go to town, I come back and his life bar is much lower than it was when I left. Whatever. I did it. The video IS legit. You, on the other hand, are still clowns.

>>7709036
>>7708404
Shit, yeah forgot to mention. I made the character in the video and it had little issue clearing the ubers. Hardest thing for me was the fact I never play sorc cause it's boring and metafaggotry at it's worst, seriously I'd be so happy if they completely deleted teleport and static from the game and so my skill with the class is terrible. I'm so used to doing ubers with my bowazon that I kept weapon swapping mid fight to get the Harmony aura up, the standing there like a retard wondering why I just died...

>>7709057
No one gives a shit.

>>7708329
>VERY suspicious.
Fag.

>>7708935
>Don't level up as one. I'd not even bother playing it till end game hell farming
>If you are having trouble hitting some monster, or it's right in your face slowing your down or something, swap to smite and smack it away. Smite always hits and usually puts it into hammer range or at least gives time to reposition.
>use shift + hammer while walking toward a monster, moving in small increments
>with dangerous ranged monsters, it's pretty obvious, but I see people fail all the time to do this, create hammers like in the previous tip, but walk backwards and pull them toward you. Once you've a few hammers out run backwards faster and they'll walk into them

>>7709149
Thanks anon, appreciate that specially the bit about casting and making hammers hit. I usually just hit shift and stand in place.
>smite
I still don't have a point in it, but I'll take note of that.
>>Don't level up as one. I'd not even bother playing it till end game hell farming
What do you mean?

>>7709180
It's quite the ordeal to level up and complete normal+nightmare with hammers. Most people usually build a zeal or vengeance paladin til level 30 if not much later, then respec into hammers. Just saves a lot of time. Not to say it's impossible or anything, if you wanna do it, go ahead.

>>7709183
Ah that makes sense. I was also thinking of it, the hammers seem to "collide" and disappear at corridors so it would be a pain in the maggot lair and the desert tombs in higher difficulties. I'll try respec'ing if it gets too hard. As of now in act 3 normal there's not much problem

>>7708935
Try to approach monsters from below-right so they are upper-left to you. Have fast-cast gear.

>smite
>I still don't have a point in it
You should, if for no other reason than to have Holy Shield. Max block. Charge for fast movement. Put a point in Redemption as well.
Dual Spirit RWs if you have ladder RWs enabled.

The bats can resurrect the fucking boss monsters. Christ almighty.

>>7709289
>Try to approach monsters from below-right so they are upper-left to you. Have fast-cast gear.
Any reason why? Do hammers hit better that way? They circle around you right?
>You should, if for no other reason than to have Holy Shield. Max block. Charge for fast movement. Put a point in Redemption as well.
noted anon thanks.
>Dual Spirit RWs if you have ladder RWs enabled.
Thanks. I do have plugy but I've still yet gotten a base for Spirit and that Thul and Amn since I'm still in Normal.

Best nightmare meph I've ever had.

>>7709417
Hammers spawn to your upper left, so you can hit monsters who melee you, like extra fast frenzytaurs, and you can get the hammers out instantly.
Conversely, you are disadvantaged against enemies approaching you from the lower right, because you can't necessarily hit them when they are adjacent to you, and it takes time for the hammers to even reach that direction. Against small and extra fast shits and in cramped quarters it becomes jerky to play.
It's not necessarily a fire-druid vs. stairs-tier joke, but it's not the whirlwind of unstoppable destruction people usually associate with hammerdins. It's also a big reason why Enigma is so desirable for hammerdins.

>>7709521
Sweet enjoy your farming.

>>7709552
I see, thanks anon that was very helpful.

>>7705172
>not seething
>fire auradin
You will be, Anon, you will be seething soon

>>7708234
>>7708329
to kill Dclone just use the Chaos Sanctuary trick.

>>7708935
stand in middle of enemies
use hammer
win everything forever
also have some sort of back-up plan to deal with Baal's 2nd wave.

Trying to play Diablo 1 for the first time and should I even continue as a Sorcerer? I'm getting my shit whipped by the Butcher.

>>7710197
His powerlevel is extremely high for the point of the game you can first fight him. There's a couple of ways to cheese him, but other than those you should leave him for now and go back to kill him a few floors later.

>>7710197
Do you have a fire wall scroll/fire wall spell? Use either to help you defeat him. Also, there's are several ways to trap him, one of which involves his inability to open doors.

someone at /v/ posted the updated models for Act1 NPC's

what the fuck did they do to them?

>>7710394
I could only afford one scroll, but I know about that trick from that Carbot video. So I guess I'll keep farming, I'm only level 5 anyways.

>>7710413
Doesn't seem like the modelers are great at making women, but some of the male characters don't look good either. There's too much detail in their face.

>>7710197
Come back to him later.

Llama found Mang Song. It is over.

>>7710197
sorcs are not the best choice for a first playthrough. I'd go rogue first up.

>>7711906
>three days
>>7700329

>>7711906
For him, but how about you? Have you even found Tyrael's?

Just made it to hell on my untwinked p8 barb and it's starting to become very painful to proceed further.
I didn't grind at all to reach this point but now I'm gonna have to figure out some way to get better gear that doesn't take 5 years.

>>7712123
>figure out some way to get better gear
Nightmare Mephisto. Hell Andariel. Countess. Cap fire and light res, cold if you can. Crushing blow is near mandatory for barbs. Battle orders, battle command and shout are all great, get something with + those skills in both weapon swap slots to get the biggest increase possible.

Battle cry is underrated, too. Use it for champions, unique monsters and bosses.

What level are you? I'd suggest grinding the above til you're 75-80 or so. Monster levels get into the mid 80s in act 3 and stay around there for the rest of the game, so it's a good ballpark to level yourself to.

>>7712123
>untwinked
>p8
>barb
Gonna be shit no matter what you do without a lot of grinding. Christ even p1 sucks for what you're doing.

>>7712123
Run Countess for runes, kill also dudes on the way to get good bases. There are several good weapon runewords you can make just from the runes she drops with her special rune drop.

>>7712203
>>7712256
I'm 74 now (killed NM baal at 68 I think) and currently using Berserk with a rare spear.
I'm not entirely sure I can kill countess right now and she will also drop about half as many runes on p8 compared to p1 so it may not be terribly efficient anyway.

Fortunately I just realized that my Stony Field waypoint is right next to a house with a superchest. It only shits out ilvl 68 stuff but that should give me some good items and runes to get going.

>>7712326
>rare spear
You haven't got a decent unique or runeword by this point? Must be a pretty great rare item.

Nice, only had a +2 skelly so far.

So MrLlama still hasn't done all the runewords. Time for someone to egg him about it.

>>7712521
Surely he has the runes though.

>>7712524
Well how about the bases? He might need infinite time to get a 4 socket Thresher.

>>7712536
kek. He should do some racks alongside his nightmare LK runs for Amn runes to cube up.

So it looks like Teo is also doing a guided playthrough.

>>7712536

For your information, it took him longer to find a monarch for spirit than it took me to find a thresher.

>>7712552

Just asked him about pits vs. racks and he said he prefers pits provided you have big aoe damage. Racks shitters in shambles.

>>7712883
Yeah and I PREFER bowzons to sorcs, doesn't make them better.

>>7712886

He is likely the single most informed source on the whole game.

>>7712541
Amn will be the real challenge.
>>7712861
Who, Llama?
>>7712883
Who is Teo and why does his preference matter?

>>7712898
>Who is Teo
Speedrunner that's been on par and better with Llama for ages

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVQ58eU1mvsjyeg9okN-TrA/videos

>>7712905
But he's bald how is he better, but I'll check him out, his voice sounds good as background noise.

How does someone with as much experience as Llama not know that you can move 100 pages in Plugy with shift or that you can hold an item while moving between pages? He could have saved like 40 minutes or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL7VWjtEaJo

>>7713014
so much of the stuff he does seems like it's deliberately trying to make d2 look as bad as you possibly can

>>7713014
He does it to stretch out streaming time. It's the same reason he says you don't need max FCR for LK runs even though it would obviously save a lot of time.

>>7712890
he is not likely at all then

Cool axe.

Had a crash, muttmod anon. Done about 30 nightmare meph runs and this is the first time. Seemed to happen immediately after I summoned Valk, but that might just be a coincidence.

>>7715813
Do you know which three monsters were randomly selected? I can see Dream Tears, but it would be good to know the other two.

>>7715878
No sorry, they were all I saw before the crash. I'll be running this for while, so if it happens again I'll try and take note.

I did make a backup of the character and stash right after it happened if that'll help at all.

>>7698137
guys a little help over here, what's the best way with mods or vanilla for starting Diablo 1 and 2 in Windows 10???

>>7715930
>D1
GOG version is brainless and works straight away.

>D2
Either download(buy) straight from blizzard for 1.14 version or torrent 1.13 from somewhere. Either are good. Then install the PlugY mod.

>>7715813
>>7715878
Happened again. This time all I saw were those enemies on screen.

>>7715937
mods for D1????

>>7715973
Why? What are you after?

>>7715984
I don't man, certainly it's been a while since I played D1 and D2, I want to go on for new content or new things I don't man what's your PoV about D1 and D2?? what's your opinion bro?

>>7715998
>I want to go on for new content or new things
Should have said that then. You made it seem like you were just now trying the games.

Try The Hell 2 or Belzebub for Diablo 1.

For Diablo 2 try the muttmod>>7706524, Eastern Sun, Median XL or 1.15 (MEGA linked in the OP)

>>7715878
Death Knights and the overpowered green succubus this time.

>>7707903
Incorrect strings used, fixed.

>>7707950
String wasn't referenced due to capitalization, fixed.

>>7708157
Bat Demons don't have a treasureclass, fixed.

>>7715813
>>7715956
>>7716051
>exact same frame, exact same direction Council Member every time
HMMMMMMMMMM. Of course Overworked, the bug fixing portion of Muttmod, ends up being the culprit. You don't need to report it anymore, I'm 99% certain of the cause. I'll upload the new version when I figure out how to fix this mess.

>>7716060
Based. Good work anon.

>Overworked, the bug fixing portion of Muttmod, ends up being the culprit
kek

>>7716019
awesome, thanks for the advice bro

>>7716068
Could you upload your save file? I can't for the life of me get the crash to occur, no matter how many council members I mess around with. It might have to do with Bremm Sparkfist (or his minions) specifically somehow.

>>7716123
https://files.catbox.moe/74vszk.7z

Don't know if it'll matter, but the gear I'm using during all the crashes is located in the first page of the shared stash, bottom right. MF stuff.

Found templar's might in throne room, cranium basher and astreon's from Baal. Pretty crazy. Pits are still better than racks, incidentally.

>>7716149
Have you tried them?

>>7715998
D1 doesn't really have any mods besides The Hell or Belzebub/Tchernobog or Crucible(dl:https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1QbwKoYpjBa6k0N74S1KlZv3o9iTf3srT, requires Diablo v1.08, has special ddraw.dll: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XzYtNVF6Mg2DP7LvdPwqwC8Yor2yfbkD/view?usp=sharing).).

>https://mega.nz/file/lGBXEY4D#2Yr8NjCIBoMGEEYUkOiq5Rt9rT_9Yfn4F_rBdB94Cvs
Here's the next Muttmod, with some more bug fixes.

>>7716131
Thanks, I managed to get it to crash a few times, although not with consistency. My best guess is that it had something to do with Council Members having a special folder for this animation, which causes it to behave oddly under very specific circumstances. It is probably fixed now that I gave it an actual, original animation instead of a recycled sequence.

>>7716251
Cheers!

>>7716251
Did the
>quiver + perfect topaz + r10 = quiver of piercing
From talonrage and got this axe instead lmao.

>>7716424
kek

This really makes life easier for a hammerdin. Thankfully it rolled better than usual at 33%

>>7716712
Oops here's the photo

Word of the day right there.

>>7716723
For some reason, I never realized how retarded the FHR is on Spirit. As if the other properties weren't broken enough, they also had to give it almost the highest FHR in the entire game.

>>7716735
Means that they only come out during the night, right? cute name.

>>7702579
Part of the reason why it's difficult to explain rack running is because it's a skill you have to get good at. If you can't read or find the info available online about rack running, apply it and figure out a strategy to get good results then you're just not good at it and should probably stick to Pits or Cows or whatever for your bases. You have to be able to very quickly figure out and isolate a bunch of variables. Also it's worthless for bnet play single player only.

>>7716739
Yeah. Runewords flipped the game on its head like 3 times over when they were introduced. They're so absurd that they overshadow 99% of rares and most uniques. There's arguments for and against, but imo I want them nerfed a fair bit or if I'm really being honest, runewords should be removed entirely. I genuinely think the game would be better off without them.

>>7716739
Yep. Having it on the weapon too is definitely broken.

>>7716752
>implying it would change anything
Without runewords, everyone will just wear the same top tier unique. Literally doesn't matter.

>>7716795
Yes but it raises the value and power of rares, which there is less of a gap between uniques, vs runewords.

>>7716752
The only Runeword that really needs to be fixed is Grief. It's too powerful. Flat damage is OP as fuck. The flat damage just needs to be scaled back a bit to be in line with GG rares. Should be like 270-330 or something instead. You remove Enigma and Sorc is broken OP. If they want to remove Enigma then they have to make Sorc's Teleport a cooldown or something. That sounds worse than before to me. Sorc Teleport was originally balanced around Mana pots being found only and nothing crazy like Insight. I like that Runewords are a nice stopgap to GG rares. It's fun playing it both ways honestly that's why Classic and old patches are so good. Really I'd just like there to be a concentrated effort to create an official "hardmode" for the game. Too many changes over the years have been made strictly to pussify D2. Remove Iron Maiden from Chaos? Add a bunch of Runewords? Give respecs to stat and skill allocation? Now they want to add auto gold pickup, fix a bunch of broken stuff while neglecting the fact that the game would be ostensibly easier. The old team who made the game, if they "fixed" things they'd rebalance the entire game to make it brutally more difficult. I hate every faggot who says anything about "QoL improvements" or whatever. 99% of the time it's because they're completely fucking retarded and don't know anything about D2. I'd really like an official D2 mode that's balanced for Hardcore Ironman play. That combines a bunch of concepts from previous patches to create a more challenging game. All this said I give no fucks about D2r and that's probably where most of this discussion is stemming from which I loathe greatly.

>>7716842
>If they want to remove Enigma then they have to make Sorc's Teleport a cooldown or something.
>That sounds worse than before to me.
Sounds better to me. It was dumb and over powered in D1 and it's dumb and overpowered in D2. Either give every character a fast movement skill on par with it, which removes the entire point of the skill....or just remove the damn thing entirely.

Everything else that's "OP" in the game I can see debate for in some way, TP is just retarded with how necessary it is.

>>7716851
Oh and find item, too. But only if TP goes as well.

>>7716842
I've always been torn about runewords specially when I warmed up to them, using that Stealth until Hell if no Vipermagi/Hawkmail/Spirit Shroud/Duriel's Shell drops, and then transition to Smoke for res.
Lore as the ultimate helm until you find that Shako/Peasant Crown or a GG rare Circlet.
And Ancient's Pledge then Rhyme for res or CNF.
Well why were runewords added anyway?

>>7716867
>Well why were runewords added anyway?
I think the concept is great, they just need to be handled with much more control and hesitant testing than blizz ever did. Restrict them a lot.

>>7716842
>>7716752
The original runewords were honestly fine, nothing too overpowered and gives you a sense of progress per runeword that you built. But I think the highest rune you can use was Vex? Or was it Jah? So the other higher runes were just socketables like gems and jewels.

>>7716842
> If they want to remove Enigma then they have to make Sorc's Teleport a cooldown or something
That wouldn't be necessary at all, pvp autists would just have to suck an egg.

>>7716893
PvP fags are an...interesting bunch. In some ways I can appreciate their autism in build defining and game manipulation, but they also infuriate me to no end with how little most of them actually understand the game and how overrepresented their pull was in balancing back in the day.

Fucking D2 PvP youtuber thought that the remaster added the OG tristram music to ruined tristram. Fucks sake. They need to spend more time playing the game and less time trading on jsp and wanking their sheet dps.

>>7716901
>Fucking D2 PvP youtuber thought that the remaster added the OG tristram music to ruined tristram.
KEK next he'll complain they added a bit of the music too after killing Diablo

>>7716918
One of the most soulful moments in the whole game. God I love it.

The FUCKING WHORES keep killing my merc. I swear to god I'm gonna make a revive necro just to make them fight each other and learn what it feels like.

>>7716934
Give the man a break, ice tiddies hit hard

>>7716945
No. Gulzar needs to learn to stop simping for snow thots.

>>7716893
>pvp autists
They make up a massive chunk of the playerbase. d2jsp's entire economy revolved around them. It's much dumber to just disregard it because you don't like it. One of the great things about D2 is it wasn't designed to pander to specific types of people like the no pvpers and the likes. Every game designed today suffers from listening to whiny faggots.

>>7717004
The difference is, PvP will eventually die off. Single player and to a lesser extent multi, will live on with a shitter game because of the PvPer influence.

>I lost my old save file
ho no

>>7717017
d2 still has a pvp scene after 20 years it's not dying off or rather as d2 dies so does the pvp. see here https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=147 and even still some lld'ing going on here https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=143 these forums are still very active after d2 has been out for 20 years. i wouldn't be surprised if d2r pvp died pretty quickly tho. blizzard has no clue what they're doing.

>>7717153
I was speaking in regards to super long term in the future. Like 100 years from now some guy is gonna go "huh 'one of the most beloved games of all time'. I wonder what that's about?". Then he will play it and be robbed slightly of the better experience he could have had.

It's such a nigger thing to do to sacrifice long term sustainability for short term pleasure.

>>7717183
>robbed slightly of the better experience he could have had
Any game that's at least partially predicated on multiplayer is going to rob a player of some subjective experience at some point. That's because you have to be part of the community at the time to experience it. There's no replicating this because every quantifiable point in time is its own unique experience. Whereas with single player it's entirely up to the individual what they experience and not in any way subjected to whims of what other players or the community is doing. I dislike that online multiplayer game communities change over time but I also just accept it because nothing can be reliably done about it. People are going to down whatever they want. Anyway whatever you're on about it's clear you just don't like d2 pvp for whatever reason and it doesn't make any sense. You're not being robbed of anything if you don't like it.

New item graphics look way off and don't feel right. I hate how it's all cleaned up. I need fuzzy vanilla graphics and clunky items. And they need to hit bold font.

>>7717249
the new items don't even looked cleaned up to me. just looks like a different game and it looks like shit. 3d doesn't look like diablo 2 no matter what they do.

>>7717279
they're all polished and upscaled but it looks like russian mod for heroes 3. like ivan uses his grandma's mittens and then changes saturation in irfanview and calls it magefist.

>>7717297
this is not how i remember it looking all these years

Finally figured out how to work with monster animations. Now I can make functional versions of the non-functional Diablo 2 monsters and port them to other mods.

Apparently the modification to rare items in the muttmod applies to the Valkyrie items. I've seen her spawn with cleansing and conviction aura now. Pretty cool.

>>7718629
i hate realism in games so goddamn much

>>7719495
Also applies to Shadows, Blood Raven and the Ancients. Or at least probably the Ancients, I don't know how their equipment works since it is hardcoded.

It's like a baby windforce.

>>7717308
I think a lot of the graphics look good, but that cardboard shield and orb are abysmally bad.

I wonder if D2R supports mods, will mods running with non-native spirtes just load the native remastered sprites when activating remastered mode?

>>7719507
I think the original sprites are actually more realistic looking. In the sense that they look more natural. Polygons look overly straight, jagged and pointy. The geometry of polygons on player models is distracting. Polygons only really works well with simple objects such as buildings and other objects that are a simple collection of straight lines. Still I'd rather an isometric sprite building over one created with polygons. I've always thought of 3d as a concession we accept in order to have the advantage of being able to play in a 3d world with a freely manipulatable camera. Sprites look better otherwise and it's flat out retarded to play a 3d game with an isometric perspective. It's like you don't want to enjoy the game you're playing.

>https://mega.nz/file/0TBGyDqZ#vUToNLPdOlO6PYylimS3GkP0Gxf_DY5nzczu76BMJnM
Here's Overworked bug fix patch v4, now hopefully crash free.

>>7720914
Nice. And bump

>>7698587
Is it possible to play Diablo 2 sober in current year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsD6qyTpvuI
>"online viewership of the alpha test was the highest ever for a Blizzard game test"

Get ready mates, an infinite horde of newfags approaches.

>>7722717
>M-MUH SECRET CULB
I'm more afraid of this super annoying bunch of retards like yourself feeling like they are part of some elite community on a fucking anonymous image board acting all superior and endlessly complaining about newfags.

>>7722802
Fuck off newfag

>>7722821
he's right

>>7716251
(Testing) suffix bug is still there. I'm just starting out with the mod and there are already plenty of blues with (Testing). Wasn't that supposed to be fixed?

Newish fag to D2 here, only played casually as a kid.
How do I into bowazon for PvM?

>https://mega.nz/file/YfRWwDwT#stMrshh32wEv4xAiLpATshPeyC8wgpW8JRBKy14rqRg
Version 5. Just two bug fixes. Also made the concerning discovery that ~600 of the uniques are minor derivatives of other uniques, so I might end up deleting some of them if I need space for more uniques further down the line.

>>7716424
Fixed, it was missing its itemtype so it defaulted to the most basic type, the humble Hand Axe (same reason Horadric Staves upgrade to hand axes).

>>7723409
>Wasn't that supposed to be fixed?
Yes. I forgot to remove it again. It has been removed again.

>>7723509
Bowzon main here. Brutal answer? You either level another character to farm gear, or you take a very long time to do it.

Fire zons are okay and need some gear to get going properly later on, and also run into the biggest wall in Hell with immunities. Cold zons stomp through normal and turn nightmare into a joke, then they slow to a crawl through hell. My personal favourite are physical, but they have a massive hurdle going from late normal through nightmare, then an even bigger hurdle starting Hell, let alone farming it.

Bowzons are shit because their damage is bad in more ways than one. They have low skill damage, not a lot of synergy bonuses and bows themselves are genuinely terrible stats wise, on top of being difficult to farm for.

If you want to an slow, but sure-fire buildpath then this is what you'll aim for in order:

(had to split post. too much text)

>>7723582
>>7723509
>zephyr runeword/low level unique bow. Level magic arrow, critical strike and guided arrow for bosses. One point in penetrate. Do this til you hit act 5, then farm the boss pack right above the waypoint until you hit 30. Use Akara to respec into Freezing Arrow. Level that, one point in crit, one in penetrate, several in pierce. Get valkyrie if you want but it's not necessary yet.
>mid level unique/rare bow/bow with +skills and or attack speed. Keep building the above skills. This will clear nightmare easy.
>make a Harmony runeword if you've dropped nothing better. Harmony is also great to keep on switch. Makes farming faster and gives you more control/safety while fighting
>grind levels with what you've got on Nightmare mephisto, pindleskin, eldritch and baal runs until you hit 80+ and have some decent gear to play with
>pray to fucking god you drop a good bow like a goldstrike arch, eaglehorn or witchwild string, which can carry you through hell when upgraded.
>eventually respec again when you're ready for hell, this time level magic arrow, guided arrow, Valkyrie, crit/penetrate/pierce and either strafe or multishot. I prefer strafe. You won't have any issues in hell with immunities outside of very rare monsters.
>if you find something that actually works for a cold/fire build, they are do-able as well, but you'll have to skip a lot of bosses
>hell will suck no matter what you do
>end game you use a high level runeword, a windforce or witchwild string

They've my favourite way to play the game and it feels incredibly rewarding taking them from zero to hero. You just have to accept they're slow until you've got the best gear, and even then they're still subpar compared to every other class and other amazon build in some way.

>>7723509
>>7723584
Gear aside from bow, Get a stealth and a nadir early on, swap them out later for better stats. You want
>life steal
>mana steal
>attack rating
>fire and light resistances
>movement speed
>crushing blow.

As much of all of those as you can get. Get a tanky merc so he can sit there and keep enemies off you. Act 2 with holy freeze is great.

ey bowanon how do you deal with frozen? ravenfrost?

>>7723747
In the endgame, yeah. Raven frost is amazing. Mana, cannot be frozen, attack rating. You could argue even going for two in some builds.

Wrath is also good too if you wanna do something different for the weapon.

>>7723509
You can easily build dual element bowzon because you can go both Immolation Arrow and Freezing Arrow. You have plenty of skillpoints points for both and by the time you hit hell, you will be close to maxing both of them with their +dmg synergies. Gear-wise use whatever zonbow with +3 bow and xbow skills and +aspd until you find Kuko Shakaku and Wizendraw. Get Act2 merc, preferably might, and give him Insight in whatever base you will have at that point. You will basically play a slower sorceress but will have no problems with resistances or anything else.

>revived skeletons play their corpse animation for one frame after being revived, causing them to blink in and out of death
What did Blizzard mean by this?

>>7723928
>causing them to blink in and out of death
Well yeah, they're undead lmao

>>7723928
That is kinda fucky though. I wonder why?

>>7723946
They make use of a txt file called monseq. This file lets you produce custom animations, but whenever a monseq finishes, it is hardcoded to play the first frame in that animation. This works fine for attack animations (since the first frame of an attack and the last frame are almost identical, both have the arm barely extended), but for un-death animations the first frame is being dead and the last frame is being alive, which results in alive-dead-alive.

>>7723752
Thanks

>>7722717
going to be fun watching this shit demake crash harder than any game ever made

>>7723509
Put on Rattlecage and Howltusk
20 in Strafe
Hold RMB to win

>>7723553
Thanks anon.

>>7723509
clear the game as a sorc or necro first, spend months farming gear for your bowzon and then play bowzon with maxed out gear
only to realize that even with the best gear you're still slower than a naked Necro

>>7704490
I'll make you a deal kiddo. You teach me a Diablo 2 secret or mechanic that I don't know and I'll spoonfeed you on racking. Not like it's even that secret, most experienced players know about it and I was able to figure out the variables with just a few hours of playing around.

>>7723553
Council Members keep going invisible for a short time.

Okay, but can I find a bow for my bowzon now please? Jesus Christ.

I really hate how slowly the merc health bar updates. He'll drop to ~40%, then stay there for ages, then suddenly die instantly. Pisses me off.

>>7726415
Where?

>>7726858
Here. First noticed it when fighting meph but thought it was my eyes playing tricks. After doing a lot of baal runs, it's pretty visible.

https://streamable.com/0hy7k6

How do I create a webm of my gameplay?

>>7726958
You need two things. A screen recorder and a video to webm converter.

I use OBS to capture Diablo II as video files:https://obsproject.com

Then I use https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter

To convert them to webm. That program allows you to crop the screen, trim video time, set size limit, disable sound. If what I want to record is too big and would be ruined by the 4chan file size limit, then I just use catbox or streamable to upload the video itself like here >>7726898

>>7726974
I actually have the latter, I just can't get xbox game bar for win10 to work. The shitter says it's not enabled for desktop. But thanks for obs mate.

>>7726982
>I just can't get xbox game bar
What does that have to do with it?

>>7726986
I can't record the gameplay/clip.

>>7726991
Oh it's recording software. Never heard of it.

>>7726986
not him but on windows 10 if you press windows + g it opens a game bar that you can use to easily click a button and record gameplay footage. one of the only legitimately great features of this terrible OS. it doesn't seem to work for certain games though.

>>7726994
Huh, so that's what that damn thing is. Pops up whenever I disconnect a bluetooth controller. Figured it was typical microsoft bloat software. Thanks!

>>7726898
>https://mega.nz/file/wW53QKyL#965lAg5owtidMVDKkiz5nXMPZhLBulS6DqZFFpktquY
Thanks, hopefully this fixed it once and for all.

>>7726993
It's the default for win10.
>>7726994
yeah that.

>>7727030
Seems to have done it.

All these great items I can't use. This claw is nuts.

You think they're gonna fix bugs like Fend, mana burn, attack rating on skills etc etc

>>7727347
>Fend
Not a chance, the hit recovery bug has been around forever and everyone seems to have accepted its shittiness as a fundamental part of the game. This bug goes way beyond just Fend, every single animation in the entire game is broken thanks to this issue.
>mana burn
Yes. They said so and it's an extremely easy fix. Anyone with a few minutes of time and a basic understanding of hexediting can do this.
>attack rating
It shouldn't be that hard to fix, but I doubt they bothered to look into it. Unlikely to be fixed.

>>7727347
>>7727420
Llama is a consultant, surely he knows these shit. The problem is whether they would listen or not.

>>7698137
I had a lot of fun with Diablo II, but I was ultimately filtered by the severely limited size of the storage chest. Why is it so smol, for pee's sake?

>>7727424
Llama is a dummy in terms of obscure game mechanics and bugs. The only things I'd trust him on are
>how to beat the game quickly
>typical meta SP/bnet info that any seasoned player would also know about
>bugs that are relevant to speedrunning
Still better than nothing, but expect the far majority of bugs to still be around.

>>7727434
Install PlugY, it's mandatory for enjoying the game.

>>7727347
They're all going to be fixed sooner or later.

>>7700721
What the fuck is this? Why is this such a big deal??? So what, he got a rare item?

>>7727519
He got all rare items. That was the last one he needed. Took two years after he had every one prior to that.

>>7698137
When I was growing up, retro consoles were still a much more niche interest, so even the mainstream ones like NES and Genesis were considered strange

>>7698575
I hate content like this.

Excellent drop from Nilathak.

>>7727030
how do i install this? can i just copy the contents of the 'muttmod' folder into the base directory?

>>7727907
Install D2SE and throw it into your mods folder.

>>7727523
>He got all rare items.
Is that exciting, or something? You gotta catch 'em all, right?

>>7728136
It's just a way people play the game. Collect everything. Runewords, Uniques, Sets. Mostly jaded assholes like some of us with nothing else to do in the game.

Challenge: build a character that does not use mana. Which class would work best?

>>7728295
The only realistic choices are Paladin or Barbarian.
>Paladin
Go into Holy Freeze or Holy Shock. Could use Sacrifice, but with good enough gear you'd be better off using the basic attack. Rest of your points go into the other Resist skills for passive max resistances and Blessed Aim for passive AR%.
>Barbarian
Max out a weapon mastery, Double Swing (level 8+ and it costs no mana), Bash (for the synergy), Iron Skin, Natural Resistances and Increased Speed.

>>7728319
or you could build yourself a tankazon: passives only. Maybe cheat and let yourself spawn a Valkyrie in town.

>>7728334
If you allow casting in town, then
>paladin
Gains access to Holy Shield, even more so the best no mana build.
>druid
Primarily summondude. Would probably want to go wolf over bear, since bear will get no AR%.
>assassin
Tons of build possibilities since you can use your Shadow as a surrogate for casting traps or whatever.
>sorceress
Enchant + cold armor.
>necromancer
Golemancer.

Paladin > sorceress >>> amazon = druid = assassin (they'd all play about the same, summon your big dick summon in town and let it do everything for you) > barbarian >>> necromancer

Well fuck me in the ass

>>7728532
Nice Templar's Might bro, you'll be seeing a lot of those.

>>7728591
I'm not complaining, it was one of my last 4 grailers. Just need Darkforce Spawn, Wisp Projector, and Tyrael's now.

All the MF gear that I had in my personal stash got duplicated into the gear that I normally wear. Is this a plugy glitch or something? Anyway to fix it?

>>7727517
It's already later. Sooner would've been years ago.

>>7728136
Why are you in this thread if you understand so little about the game?

>>7728686
>got duplicated into the gear that I normally wear
Say what now? Did the items dupe or just the affixes?

>>7728686
PlugY creates backups automatically. Look in your save folder.

>>7728686
Thousands of hours in plugy, that's never happened. You're doing something else or something dumb too.

>>7728715
I had a helmet, boots, 2 rings and an amelet duplicated

>>7728717
Where?

>>7728720
I haven't done anything out of the norm other than create a bunch of new chars. That shouldn't affect personal stash in any way.

>>7728736
>Where?
Are you running an old version of PlugY or something?

>>7728823
No

>>7728295
Sorceress, specifically Entchantless. Maxed Warmth and Fire Mastery plus Demon Limb for fire damage and AR, then maxed Lightning Mastery and Dream for lightning damage and add some CTCs with maxed synergies, like Glacial Spike or Frozen Orb.
You could also build around Grief+Fortitude+LoH for physical as well.

>>7728978
>no energy shield
This meme build sucks even when you don't restrict yourself.

>>7728686
Sounds to me like the game didn't save properly after you swapped the gear out. I assume you place them in the tab when swapping between?

Did you crash or alt-f4 the game?

If it's not the above, then maybe plugy is the issue. There's at least one item related bug at the moment with it which involves having items in the shared stash and none at all in the personal, so it wouldn't surprise me if more is broken.

>>7729738
Which part of "does not use mana" was too complicated for you?

>>7730107
Yes, because of the no mana restriction I pointed out your build can't use energy shield, which makes it even more shit and unplayable than the original. It seems that one was too complicated for you.

>>7730121
>unplayable
At least you admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

>>7730149
Anon he's one of those retards who thinks if you're not playing the absolute min max sorc autism, your build is unplayable.

>>7730149
>no HP because sorc and no BO
>triggers hitrecovery all the time because shit HP
>can't really block because sorc, heavy investment on the expense of HP and no FBR
>normal attack because no zeal
>can't into werebear because no mana
I guess it is playable on nightmare.

>>7730151
I guess "playable" to them just becomes teleporting in to mobs and spanking everything.

>>7728978
Why Warmth for a build that doesn't use mana?

>>7730314
synergy to enchant from demon limb