/vr/ - Retro Games

that's why you play with Sonic only

Happens to the best of us.

I'm not a fan of those stages either.

>>762560
Or have a friend play tails while you play sonic. That immortal little shit can be a major help with just about everything.

Fuck Metropolis Zone, and fuck those Starfish

Fuck them to hell

>>762541
I recently beat Sonic 2 with all Chaos Emeralds for the first time. I always remembered the bonus stages being way too hard, but now that I actually gave them a thorough shot, they're not nearly as bad as I remembered.

Blue Spheres > Falling Sonic > UFO Hunt > Ring Run

You can practice I think all even numbered special stages in 2P mode.

>>762636
Jesus, the special stages have names?

Special Stages in 1 are much much worse, utterly nauseating, I would be really sad to get a special stage

>>762776
Jesus they're disgustingly retarded. So many times I've almost gotten a chaos emerald only to take a wrong turn and manage to find my way to the 'GOAL' at the beginning.

>>762541
Second stage? Pleasse i couldn't defeat the 4th stage, but you're right about them being hard.

I could never beat this one when I was younger, even though it's one of the easier special stages.

>>762748
Blue Spheres was official. The others are just generalized names based on what you do in them.

>>762826
Oh wow, this is probably the only special stage I've never lost at.

>>762792
>start slipping
>eventually fall
>fall for like ten seconds straight
>land directly on a GOAL
welp

Sonic 2 difficult
> One life 56 minutes to complete

>>762895
>implying I need 56 minutes
Even on a bad day, it doesn't take more than 30

>>762908

Yeah? I can do it in 25.

Seconds. Do you even go fast?

>>762776
>Sonic 1 special stages
>my actual nightmares
the feeling of uncontrollable falling, spinning sickeningly, sliding off the walls with no handholds to grab, gaudy patterns and a dizzying, repetitious, dreary music loop.
Fuck 'em all.

>>762826
>Those 2 blue spheres at the lower left hand corner
Jesus Christ

>>762968
It's not hard, you just have to pivot like a mother fucker after hitting the second one and bouncing back to wherever, or end there.

>>762976
Not even that as far as I remember, you land on the empty spot and reverse directions when you hit the bumper, so you pretty much grab them automatically while moonwalking.

Been a while since I played it though, but I recall that was one of the levels that you could do with eyes closed, just based on the sound.

>>762748
the ones in first game are called " The Warps Of Confusion"

according to a sonic book i used to have anyway

>>762636

>UFO hunt

Jesus fucking christ of impossibilities. I thought I had forgotten.

>i will never forget

>>762636

>UFO hunt

Jesus fucking christ of impossibilities. I thought I had forgotten.

>>762636
I LOVED SonicCD's specials. The only stages I time attacked as a kid and as a result the only parts of a game I came to totally OWN inside and out.

Knuckles Chaotix had cool special stages. Like a mix of Sonic2 and 3

Oh hey, I already have an image I made of Sonic Special stages in order from most to least enjoyed. Everything past the first row is mediocre/terrible, imo.
Seems like a pretty good place to post it, even if a lot of it ain't retro.

>>762541
you have no idea
>no emeralds
>fail to save tails
>tails is dead

>>763082

And the reason you see fish in the background is because it was inspired by an intoxication Yuji Naka once had due to eating poisoned fish, or something like that.

>>764616
I have no idea where to find even the first emerald. I just got this game a few days ago though so I hope it's easier with practice.

>>763485
>miss one ufo
>spend 30 seconds turning around and running back to get it

>>764616

>leaps of faith everywhere
>the glider
>the first boss
>Green Hills Zone Act 3
>Scrambled Egg Zone

This game is probably the hardest Sonic game in existence. SMS players need not apply

I never understood why people hated Tails so much. He always follows your footsteps exactly, so it's not like he'll get hurt in the special zones unless you jump at the last instant so he has no time to do the same.

Besides, he's a lifesaver in the main game. He always does stuff like catching lost rings I can't reach, and sometimes getting stuck in bosses or enemies and killing them for me. Having slightly more trouble with the special stages is a small price to pay.

>>764456
>Sonic Heroes not dead last
Can I buy some drugs from you?

>>764673
I can't even pass the fuckin' leap of faith in Underground Act 3

>>764673
I grew up with the GG version never knowing that the Genesis one wasn't similar.

>>764714
He significantly increases the total ring count needed to get emeralds, and there's a slight lag to his copying you, so if you jump out of the way of a bomb at the last second, Tails may not.

Outside of special stages, Tails following you causes some Asterons in the wall to activate that wouldn't with Sonic alone, and there's those moments where Tails will hit Robotnik, and you'll fall through Robotnik into a bottomless pit or lava or Robotnik himself and take damage or die, and those moments really stand out.

>>764739
>He significantly increases the total ring count needed to get emeralds
Shit, really?
That makes sense then, thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-wZyOahzvQ

>>764794
>ulillillia

But he's the master wizard of all wizards. Compared to a mere mortal, the Sonic 2 special stages must be a piece of cake to him.

>I was that kid who pushed pause around every turn in the Sonic 2 special stages to see what was around the bend.

>>762541
It's not too hard if you just remember that Tails is a dumb ass. Try your best to not let Tails pick up too many rings because he will absolutely drop them. Sonic + Tails is hard mode compared to playing as just one of them.

>>764739
>Not playing Sonic Classic Heroes and getting Knuckles' help alongside Tails

The thought occurs that the main problem is not having anyone to control Tails. The further thought occurs that with an emulator(maybe with joytokey fuckery) you could set up left analogue and trigger as Sonic's movement and jump, and right analogue and trigger as Tails'. Could be a bit brain bending, though.

>>765308
>Could be a bit brain bending, though.

Have you ever played Ni no Kuni? There's a minigame in which you control two runners at once with two analog sticks. They cross over each other in the harder casino challenges.

I can't beat the last one, maybe I'll go try again, but being able to control two different characters on one screen when they go over and past each other is a sign of transhumanity. Normal people CANNOT do this.

I only manage to get all 7 emeralds in Sonic 2 once. with Knuckles

To be honst, all it takes is memorization, usually the rings appear in a certain pattern too. The challenge comes with the fact that in the later levels there's almost no error margin so if you miss a few rings you're out.
I also used to think Tails made this harder, but then again it's true that you don't lose rings as Sonic even if tails get hit... however, I seem to recall using both Sonic and Tails raised the required amount of rings per roung, but can't remember how true is tuat.

Sonic CD's UFO bonus levels are frustrating as hell mostly because some of the UFOs are a bitch and dodge all the time.

Sonic 1's bonus stages are the ones I completed the most. They're not as fun because it's mostly a pinball-like kind of minigame, but I love the music and psychedelic visuals. Playing that back in the day felt otherworldly.

>>765242
Tails only picks up rings that Sonic would already miss. Stop being retarded, you would've lost anyway

>>765447
Did you even read what I said or where you just unable to stop yourself from shitposting?
>>>/v/

>>765461
It's not a shitpost, I was telling you that you don't have to pay any attention to Tails because he is only going to pick things up that you already missed. It is always beneficial to 'Sonic Alone' because of that

>>765551
>Stop being retarded, you would've lost anyway
I said it wasn't hard and tails picks up rings you could easily get.

>>762636
sonic 3d blast special between falling and UFO

Reading the thread, I think it's a bad thing that I have every special stage memorized to a point where I can recognize the stage in the first 2-3 ring patterns. You know how when you play 2P Special Stage and it swaps the color palettes around from the original stages? I can recognize those too and win them consistently.

What have I done with my life?

>>765425
Eh, it's pretty easy in Animal Crossing Sweet Day.

>>765438
You don't lose Sonic's rings, no. But you do get rings deducted from Tails' collection, which does deduct from your total and can most certainly fuck you.

>>764729
>mfw I can't even beat the first boss of that game

>>767640
It's infinitely easier on Master System because you can see where the fuck the ball is coming from. Good luck guessing on the scrunched Game Gear version!

>>764727
The thing with Sonic Heroes is you can beat the special stages in a couple seconds and never have to play them again, and you can easily get all of the emeralds by replaying the first level with Team Rose if I remember right.
They're complete fucking garbage, but at least they're relatively painless.
It's an old image though, I'd probably put it below Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis) if I were to remake it.

Also, NOTHING deserves to be below 3D Blast (PC).
NOTHING.

>>767783

The GG version isn't just harder because of the shorter reaction time given. The balls in the SMS version always move in the same pattern, but the GG version's balls move in randomized patterns. This makes it far more difficult

>>762927
20 minutes when i was 10, today i maybe complete it in 5 minutes.
Liar faggots

>MFW you fags don't know that the ring requirements are less strict if you play Sonic or Tails alone.

I have never, ever had a problem getting all 7 emeralds in Sonic 2. As long as you don't drag along your living liability with you, the special stages are no problem.

>>768942
Forgot MF.

>the UFO hunt
never again

Sonic 3D blast for the Saturn had some excellent special stages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np76lPXKfCo

I just 100% completed Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis) for the first time today. It was a fun romp, but the special stages were super easy. I finished with well over required rings, fist time, every time. At least I didn't need to replay it to get to the Final Battle, I doubt I would have had the enthusiasm as the game is a bit tiresome.

On another note, I would love to see Arino play 3D Blast.

>>768942

>MFW you don't know that you keep your rings if you exit a special stage with knuckles

stay pleb

>>769459

>exactly the same as sonic 2

meh

>>765438
What made it tricky is if you get hit and you fall behind Tails. He will collect all the rings as he is in front of you but he is more liable to be hit. This will affect your total much worse overall.

The only way to play is with a bro. Then Tails becomes the ultimate companion

>>762636
Blue spheres are FUCKING boring and awful to play.

The UFO Hunt is the best Sonic mini-game ever. It has different environment, a clever gimmick and actually looks cool.

>>769596
No, it's not exactly the same because in the 3D Blast (Saturn) special stages you can actually see stuff coming so you don't have to resort to unfun rote memorization bullshit in order to win, and there's a ton more variety to keep things interesting, especially in the later special stages.
It's basically Sonic 2's special stages if Sonic 2's special stages were actually well made and not complete shit.

>>769663
I found that the distance to the UFOs was sometimes difficult to judge. Sonic has often had some pretty fucking difficult special stages, but I normally get to grips with them eventually. I like the sadism they offer...

>>769691
>I found that the distance to the UFOs was sometimes difficult to judge
Yeah, this. Especially in the original game. The remake made distances significantly easier to judge. Everything being much smoother, and in widescreen, helped a lot as well.
I couldn't stand the UFO hunt special stages before, but now I almost enjoy them thanks to the remake.

I imagine the Sonic 1 special stages also feel much nicer in that port to mobile devices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG-A5mpHUM&t=1m27s

>>769716
The speed of the rotation seems to be increased in the port

>>769716
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG-A5mpHUM&t=1m27s
That is so painful to watch

>>769731
I don't think it's moving any faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQPzO57uFmY&t=9s
It's definitely a hell of a lot smoother, though.
Maybe it just looks faster because of that?

>>769741
Yeah, he really struggles with that one corner. It's pretty sad.
It was the first video with a special stage and no annoying voices I could find.

>>769828
We have all been there with that first special stage...

Sonic 1 was really tough with Special Stages. You could get all 6 emeralds in the first 3 zones, but it only left you with room for 4 do-overs, maybe 5. That's a really narrow margin of error, especially when you consider that if you lose your rings late into the stage then you're screwed. Or, if you make a mistake in the stage it will also have a big consequence cos you are relying on being able to make it through some pretty tough levels with 50 rings intact. This is particularly hard with Starlight Zone.

>>771809
Yeah, you only get 4 fuck ups, and that's assuming you can even get 50+ rings and not get hit in every level with a goal ring.
I think in one path in one of the Labyrinth Zone acts, you can only possibly get 48 or 49 rings.

the sonic 3d blast saturn stages were 3d sonic 2 special stages with a lot more going on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np76lPXKfCo