/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7685943
The controls are fine and I was able to beat the game no problem, but Wrath of Heaven does have a much better control scheme.

>>7685985
Also press back to block.

>>7685943
>Why did they think tank controls were good for an action game?
It was 1998 and they didn't know better. Have you tried training stage?

>>7685943
Do you know that tank controls used to be called controls.

>>7685943
It had to be playable on the standard PS1 controller with no analog sticks.

>>7685943
You're going to come to the realization that ninja = shitty game.

>>7686057
sounds like some serious fake news

>>7686057
pfft, watch this
https://youtu.be/18KT91ICZuY

>>7686054
Same deal with the first Resident Evil. It's almost unplayable by today's standards.

>>7686057
Recite your death haiku.

>>7686057
>>7686073

>>7686069
Kino. Reminds me of based Thunderbolt Fantasy.

Tenchu was fun, poisoning dogs and sneaking around sniffing Japanese ladies undergarments.

You're gonna love dying at bosses and repeating the entire level all over again.

>>7686172
Ninja game trope

>>7685943
it takes time to get used to, quit crying. classic game

>>7685943
It's a good game zoomer, I don't ever remember having trouble with the camera and the controls work fine for what you're doing.

The problem with this game is the enemy placement is randomized between 3 scenarios so each time you try you can't pick which you get so it's impossible to learn the enemy layout unless you just play the ever-loving fuck out of each level over and over which just gets boring. Shit starts on level 2 where the ninjas randomly jump on and off roofs and you think you're find and some asshole behind you jumps up and you're spotted, ruining the run because in the other 2/3 of the scenarios he's not there.

>>7686172
Yeah, this game truly is terrible. Even by 1998 games were giving checkpoints before bosses, not making you do the whole 30 minute stage all over again.

This game is unforgettable. Absolutely superb. Anyone bitching sucks at video games. Go eat some poison rice.

>>7686394
you're just awful at videogames

>>7685943
outside of doing an isometric view like mgs tank controls were their best option, only a single dpad to work with, no analog sticks.

>>7686457
It's unforgettably bad. You don't even feel like a ninja. They are supposed to be fast and agile. The ones in this game feel like elephants lumbering around.

Tenchu is so fucking rad. Wrath of Heaven was a 10/10.
Shit, I think I'm gonna play through them again (at least Stealth Assassins to Fatal Shadows).

>>7685943
>>7686073
>>>/v/

>>7686069
based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZvmMGQ8VN4

For boss fights always hold down to block and attack during their recovery animation, also try to kill any enemies around the boss area before you start the fight so that the boss doesn't get any help, for normal sneaking sections stay on the roofs, it'll make it less likely to be spotted and you'll be able to get a good view of the level

Also, take your time, this Tenchu doesn't take time into account for your ranking, I think it was until Tenchu 3 that you had to basically speedrun a level to get a good rank

>>7686834
Go eat some poisoned rice.

>>7686834
you're an idiot

>>7687489
sometimes I forget how problematic things were in pre-revolutionary times

>>7686057
You need to play Mark of the Ninj- in fact nevermind the company sold out to dinkychink tencent, pirate it.

>>7687489
Oh hey it’s Willem

Tenchu is one of the worst stealth games of all time, go play Shinobido you fag

Yeah it's an early 3D game. But you're still a scrub though lol.

>>7686329
You could also just play carefully and scout the environment, you know like a stealth game.

Alternatively you play the updated Japanese release, which has an English language option and allows you to pick the enemy layouts.

>>7687489
so many vidya ads back then were just some unrelated skit that they tangentially linked to the game

>do your parents drive you nuts??
>well drive a car instead in Gran Turismo

>>7685943
You know you can press diagonally back with your turning direction to turn faster?

I never got the complaints about Tenchu controls, I always thought if felt good, your character feels nice and weighty. Better than Wrath of Heaven.

>>7685943
Banger OST but yeah the game itself hasn't aged well. Play Shinobido PS2 instead.

>>7685943
Looks like you chose the wrong party to crash OP.

>>7685943
Your shitpost is
in
my
belly

I remember getting this for my birthday. I asked my mom for Tekken and she fuckin brought home Tenchu. What the fuck man. I couldn't even beat the 1st level it was so hard

>>7688913
shinobido sucks ass in comparison, i'm convinced it's just one person shilling this shitty unstructured game full of gimmicks

>>7685943
Tenchu? More like Stench-u!

I remember how mad cheesy it was in later games to simply inflict a single source of poison damage, and the poison damage animation would make them wide open for a free combo every time it went off. That said, IIRC in the first game, you can block forever all the way up until Fatal Shadows, where they can slam dunk you with throws when you try to block too much

>>7692812
Also, just remembered you can use smoke bombs to produce the same exact animation lock

>>7691519
it feels more like a half assed Ninja version of Way of the Samurai than a Tenchu successor

>>7688286
When did it come out? I never heard of it.

Git gud you fucking boomer I beat this game at the age of five

>>7695447
No five year old has the hand eye coordination to beat any game. Stop trying to compensate for your small penis by making up lies on the internet.

>>7695360
It's called Shinobi Gaisen.

https://tenchu.fandom.com/wiki/Rittai_Ninja_Katsugeki_Tenchu:_Shinobi_Gaisen

The combat in this game is fucking atrocious. I could never get past stage 6 because it pits you with two boss fights and the second one blocked everything. Fucking terrible idea to put so much combat in a stealth game. Either do one or the other, not half ass of each.

>>7691519
It has way better combat than Tenchu at the very least. Combat was the one thing Tenchu consistently never got right even during the series peak, which is made even worse by it being constantly shoved in every level.

What determines which layout you get when you pick a level? Is it always just random?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSY_SVd865Y

The final world is just inhumane, absolutely fucking inhumane.

>>7688075
>problematic
shut up

>>7687489
>bashing trannies
I already loved WoH, but this is just next level.

>>7698782
True

>>7686329
There's a cheat to select which layout you want.
Wrath of Heaven has a similar thing but without the need to input the cheat.

Is the PS2 game worth it?

>>7699836
Nope.

>>7695538
Kirbys dreamland for gameboy at four here.

>>7699836
Yes, Wrath of Heaven is the best game in the series.

>>7685943
For today standards maybe it's bad, but back when it was released these controls vere good. I was a huge Tenchu fan and grandmasteres both psx games as a kid. The real problem were disappearing enemies, now that was shit even back then.

>>7699836
Maybe.

>>7701808
>grandmasteres

>>7685943
First game I looked up and memorized a cheat code for

Debug mode was fun to fuck around with after I had beat the game

Onimusha was everything Tenchu should've been but better. The fact it has tank controls is not a flaw because you can lock-on to an nearby enemy and still fight them. That's all it would take to fix Tenchu.

>>7686073
today's standards are full of gay

>>7701808
Eyup, the draw distance is the only legitimate criticism of the game from a technical aspect. People bitching about the controls are just phony zoom zooms who maybe played the game for three minutes on an emulator.

This game doesn’t even have tank controls. Also its a bit clunky but it’s pretty forgiving. The real criticism of the game should be how enemy layouts cycle and some are much harder than others. Also some bosses are bull shit hard

>>7706721
I'd trust any day the guy who played the game for three minutes and can give accurate, pertinent criticism over the autisto who plays it for 1500 hours because he learned to cope with all the glaring flaws.

>>7686073

>>7706546
not very stealthy, anon

>>7685943
Hold down to block. If you crouch and press jump, you can do a rolling quick turn move. You can also press left or right and attack at the same time to slash in those directions. If you need to close the gap between you and him, double tap up and press attack to do a lunging stab move. Or doublentap up and press jump to do a super jump (not advisable during a boss fight)

All that said, you can beat him easily without most if those moves. You just bait him a little and block when he slashes. Attack as soon as his combo ends and you can usually get off all 3 hits of your combo. There is also the possibility of using items against him. Like bombs and caltrops. Just be careful not to harm thengaisha if you're trying for a high rank (not that you should yet)

You should seriously consider playing the short (and fairly easy) training stage through A few times with both characters, until you feel comfortable with the controls.

>>7706878
It literally does have tank controls

>>7706878
Tank controls means you press up and down to move forward and back and use the left and right buttons to rotate. Almost every PS1 game has tank controls.

What you're probably thinking of is the Resident Evil style camera angles combined with tank controls, which is admittedly harder for some folks.

>>7706916
The main problem with that fight is if you get too close to the door the outside guards get alerted and come running in. Even if they don't come in I think it ruins your grand master rank because they hear the fight. It is kind of BS. In level, I think 5 (?) with the snow and the boss is the archer I had 2 guys climbing over the walls to join the fight. That was some REAL BS right there.

>>7685943
>getting filtered by Hanbe
It's not the game, you just suck.

>>7707021
It's not the suck, you just game.

Is Fatal Shadow good?

>>7707032
>can't play Rikimaru
No

>>7707049
>playing as the man

Gay. I only play as hot chicks in my games.

>>7707070
The fact that you can't appreciate the alpha chad badass that Rikimaru is shows that you are a degenerated coombrain. I legit feel bad for you.

>>7707081
Rikimaru has some fucking great lines in Stealth Assassins.
>Confronts foreign pirate, coldly furious that an outsider is attacking his people. Kills him easily and becomes philosophical as he watches his enemy bleed out on the deck.
"It must be sad to die, so far from home."

>>7707081
I also main Ibuki because feet

>>7707081
I wonder what carried you and your retarded ancestors up to this point: ogling men or being a "degenerated coombrain"

>>7707197
Ogling pixels =/= pursuing women
I know talking to creatures such as yourself is a meaningless exercise so this'll be my last (you).

>>7686057
Pretty much, always has been the case.

>>7686073
I liked tank controls.

>>7688905
That was exactly my problem with ads around computers in general.
I get why they did this, but man I felt lied to.

>>7701808
The real shit is that the psX meme became popular.

>>7707246
This guy is still gay

>>7707113
OH DIOS MIO

>>7707429
Filthy gaijin

Which is harder, Tenchu 1 or Tenchu 2?

>>7707547
Tenchu 2, although I don't think either of them are terribly difficult.

>>7707547
Tenchu 1 is actually very easy
Tenchu 2 is poorly made which makes it harder than it should be

>>7707564
Tenchu 1 is easy to do the levels, but hard to master rank them. I got caught once because the AI saw me through the corner of a wall. It's either incredibly buggy or outright is made to cheat.

>>7707576
T1 definitely has technical issues regarding line of sight but the levels are short, the bosses are easy and the item cheese is plentiful

>>7707165
Where is she from?

>>7709496
Street Fighter 3, 4, and 5

>>7707576
You can easily, EASILY get grandmaster rank on every mission and be spotted several times in each one. Stealth kills make up the point loss without a problem.

>>7686457
Based Ninja san

I'm getting a hearty laugh from all the zoomers and journalist-difficulty babbies crying about this game being too hard. Pleb-filters prove to be working once again.

I beat this game as a kid and sure I had to try many times to get through some levels, but that made the game much more intense. You actually had to play smart and sneaky like, well, a ninja. After completion I went back to get the best possible scores at higher difficulty. What a great childhood memory.

Either git gud or go eat poison rice. Savescumming or checkpoint-grinding is not the way for a ninja game.

>>7707165
I main her because I like the playstyle. her hairy coochie and bare feet are a nice bonus though.

>>7710951
>her hairy coochie
Has this been shown?

>>7710973
It hasn't, but come on just look at her. You know she doesn't shave. Maybe in 5, I hated her there, they changed all her cool shit.

>>7710947
Based. Just how I remember doing it back in the day.
Actually I was too young to be decent, but I watched my older brother hit grandmaster on every map, good times.

>>7710982
She's the best she's ever been in 5. There was no reason before why she couldn't throw a kunai while on the ground. Thank god they fixed it.

>>7711135
I don't give fuck for tiers. I know she's top tier, but I dont like kunais having ammo, her neck breaker and spin kicks being gone either. at least in 4 they kept her very faithful to 3rd strike.

>>7711174
No one mentioned tiers. It sucks her neck snap move is gone but she got like 4 new ones to make up for it so it balances out.