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Flash Cart thread.

What do you guys use?

Pic related

>> No.761474

I have a gba cart someone flashed that i got off ebay. They put a bunch of NES stuff on it. It looks exactly like a gba cart except it says "nintondo" on the back.

>> No.761478

>>761474

>lol'd at nintondo

>> No.761545
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>>761467
for NES i have a powerpak, which is amazing.
for my SNES i have a game doctor which is neat but floppy drives are getting scarce.
for the turbografx i have the flash hucard
>http://www.gamingenterprisesinc.com/Flash_HuCard/
and for the genesis i have the mega everdrive.

>> No.761558

I heard that N64 flashcarts work surprisignly well, but the opposite can be said for SNES (from waht I've heard) and GBA.

Either way, the only one I have is for my DS

>> No.761569

>>761558
well for what it's worth, the game doctor works really good. it will play any regular game plus the DSP games. donkey kong country fits on 4 floppies though.

>> No.761582

SNES: power pak, works great
DS: R4 (but it's not /vr/ so forget it)

>> No.761579

>>761569
>4 floppies
Shit dude, what? How do you even play it? Do you have to insert a different one every time you beat a boss or what?

>> No.761585

>>761558
Mine is kinda worn out for the gba. sometimes the sp and micro don't recognize it, but I just pull it out and put it back in.

>> No.761590

>>761545
>game doctor which is neat but floppy
Now THIS is retro!

>> No.761591

>>761579
no, you load the game into ram at first, it plays normally after that.

>> No.761583

>>761545

Wow that thing looks old. Kudos for finding one

>>761558

I have a superufo pro 8 (snes) and an ez-flash iv (Gba). Though they both have their problems, they work very well for 2 things: Playing and saving games.

>> No.761593

>>761569
Any cart that relies on floppies or a parallel port should be considered obsolete.

>> No.761598

>>761593
yeah cause the snes is totally obsolete. are you on the wrong board?

>> No.761595

>>761582

>power pack
>thatfuckingprice.jpg

>> No.761603

>>761593
you sound like a gay

>> No.761614

>>761598
>>761603
There's a shitload of flash carts available that don't rely on floppies.

>> No.761616

>>761595
Just get an Everdrive, everything about it is better and it's cheaper.

>> No.761620

>SD2SNES will be sold out forever

>> No.761624

>>761614
How is it obsolete if it can play backup copies 100%?
I mean, obviously there are more convenient alternatives now, but there's no reason to throw yours out if you have one.

>> No.761625
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>>761614
and there's a shitload of kids on this "retro" board that have never even seen a floppy irl.
>mfw

>> No.761627

>>761620
It seems that way, but I remember Krikzz mentioning a shipment of parts going missing or something, hence the delay.

>> No.761635

>>761627
That doesn't make a huge difference when the waiting list is 4 months long.

>> No.761636

>>761616
>super everdrives are sold out everywhere

Ended up ordering an everdrive 64 as my first flash cart.

>> No.761638

>>761624
I suppose if you were looking for a flash cart nowadays, it'd probably be much easier to get a cart that used SD cards a la everdrive, SD2SNES or even the powerpak.

>> No.761641

>>761635
It's worth the wait. I've got a few of his products and they're all top quality.

>> No.761652

>>761641
I have the N8. I don't want to pay more than $200 for something that won't even ship until October.

>> No.761658

>>761545
Oh, god. Is this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X80t3rCiVKQ

>> No.761669

>>761658
no lol, that kid is like 8 what is he even doing with a snes.

>> No.761673

>>761652
I paid that much for something on Kickstarter that I'm still waiting on almost a year later. I didn't think Retrogate took orders so far in advance anyway? I thought they were first come, first served whenever stuff becomes available.

>> No.761680

>>761673
Back order list is nearly 1000 people long.

>> No.761676

>>761638
He probably bought his a long time ago or got it at a garage sale or something

>> No.761682
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761682

only ones I've got. related cause of NES/SNES/GB emus I guess?
R4, EZ-Flash IV, DS lite. GOAT combo.
The label on the EZ-Flash is from a knockoff cart I got at a local pawnshp. they sold all the old Pokemon games (red blue yellow gold silver) for GBA (along with fakes of the GBA ones), complete with boxes and manuals. the actual games were NES romhacks (blue was a romhack of Little Nemo) but the boxes and labels were a neat novelty. Labels were just like a real GBA game so I just took it off the crap game and put it on the EZ-Flash. (the Nintendo seal is good just glare)

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>>761673
>I paid that much for something on Kickstarter
hows that feel knowing you just threw money away?

>> No.761690

>>761680
Krikzz should buy a second oven.

>> No.761698

>>761693
It's actually only been about six months with another six to go. It's Pier Solar HD.

>> No.761724

>>761682
Wow, how did you make the label look that good?

>> No.762060

>>761558

N64 games didn't end up using a plethora of custom chips on-cart like SNES games did. As a result flash carts can have almost perfect compatibility.

SNES flash carts don't support most custom chips. There are a few exceptions where they replicate the custom chip using an FPGA, or literally have the custom chip-on board that's been ripped out of a real SNES cart and soldered onto the flash cart's PCB.

>> No.763534
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763534

I ordered the Everdrive 64 V2 recently. It's the pic related one.

Can anyone here tell me their experiences with the device, or the service? I bought it through Retrogate.

I noticed it also plays some NES games, I'd like to hear more about that if anyone knows.

>> No.763558

64drive is the best N64 flashcart by far, but it's incredibly expensive.

It's more for N64 homebrew developers.

>> No.763598

>>761467
GBX - Dr GB 64M
SNES - Dr. SF7
N64 - Mr. Backup Z64 2.0 (32mb ram)
TG16 - a Bung Pocket Voice 4M wired to a hucard. (uses same flasher as the Dr. GB 64M)
GBA *Not retro* - Xrom, Supercard (phat and mini), EZ-Flash IV
NDS *Not retro* - Acekard 2

Definitely need to update to a newer SNES/N64 device.

>> No.763619

>>761583

What problems have you ever had with the EZ flash IV? Owned one for years and I pretty much consider it perfect apparr from the lack of a RTC

>> No.763784

>>763619
For straight GBA, the EZ-Flash IV is the best card. Compatibility is 100% (some files require 8.3 naming)

Only issue you will ever need to be aware of is some NDS carts will see the EZIV as a EZ 3-in-1. If you use the NDS cart to flash the gba game to the EZIV, it will overwrite the default OS and you will now have an expensive EZ 2-in-1.
If you use the EZIV ONLY in a GBA then you will be fine.
Just make sure you never use your EZIV as a EZ 3in1.

>> No.764037

>>763784
I only barely played GBA games on my DS/3DS but the DSTWO seemed to function alright.

I did most of my GBA emulation on pc back in its day.

>> No.764064

My first flash cart was the TopToy DS, because it was $15. I used it extensively, but my DS was doomed to the fate of an alarm clock. Since then, I've acquired a Turbo Everdrive and the Everdrive N8, NES version. I completely missed out on the Doctor Bunghole Super Mega Game Backup craze of the nineties, being broke and not living in California.

Anyone feel like beefing up the flash carts/mod chips page on the wiki? My experience is sorely limited.

http://retroconsoles.wikia.com/wiki/Flashcarts_and_Modchips

>> No.764079

>>764064
Heres a more or less complete list of all the old 90's flash equipment.

http://web.archive.org/web/20101225014612/http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/backup/

also about 5-6 years ago, I made a google page with links to some of the software to use with the flash hardware. (even then, some of the software was hard to find.)
https://sites.google.com/site/hartleyshc/

>> No.764125

>>763534
>experiences with the device
Works like a charm. 100% compatibility now that Banjo Tooie and Jet Force Gemini are working on it.
>the service
Krikzz offers great service, he's active on his own forum and several others where he regularly posts in threads of people asking for help with anything. If you're one of the unfortunate very few, he'll replace/fix your cart for free, I believe.
>I noticed it also plays some NES games, I'd like to hear more about that if anyone knows.
It's not native playback, it's an emulator that was written years ago, and never got past the stage of 'it works ok for most games'. It's a fun novelty, but you're better off just using an emulator on your PC.

>>763558
>64drive is the best N64 flashcart by far
So I keep hearing people say, but never actually offering any evidence as to why. As far as I'm aware, 64drive and ED64 are pretty much on par right now, with the 64drive having a slight advantage in loading games a bit faster. I do remember reading that marshallh said he was going to be doing some big updates in the future, but not seen anything come of that yet.

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>>764064
I updated to my preference, I could do a complete list if you wanted.

>> No.764175

>>764136
For Gamecube, I'd say put the Wiikey Fusion instead. SD loading of games saves the laser.

>> No.764207

>>764125
Well I guess the NES emulator is a nice bonus then. What were your experiences with the delivery time of the ED64?

One day I'll have a dedicated emulator PC box with controllers of all kinds hooked up to it, it'll be glorious. Until then I guess I'll be using flashcarts.

>> No.764224

>>764175
The mod takes forever though and wouldn't be beginner friendly at all.

>> No.764232

>>764207
I didn't get my ED64 from Retrogate, because I assumed that shipping from Ukraine would take a long time,I'm in the UK and the closest reseller who didn't charge out the ass was in Germany. I did later buy my N8 from Retrogate, after it shipped it only took about 5 days to arrive.

>>764224
I still think it'd be worth mentioning, for the people who do have the skills to install it. There's also the SDGecko and IDE-EXI which are both plug and play, but those both require having some method to boot homebrew some other way in order to function.

>> No.764239

>>764207
When you do, build/buy a retropad.
http://www.brunofreitas.com/node/41

You can keep it all internal, and build controller ports into the drive slots.

>> No.764254

>>764239
The benefit of that would be that you can build it in better, right?

Because perhaps simple controller to USB converters are cheaper.

>> No.764295

>>764254
That, and you can use original controllers.
While you can find original controllers converted to usb, a lot of the time, they use the chinese knockoffs to convert.

Since all old systems use a serial connection for the controller, this is an effective way to make 1 serial>usb converter, and then use any controller you want with it.

I use one myself, and am currently in the process of buying/modding a DB9 serial selector. Use one retropad, and just turn a nob to whatever controller port you would want to use.

>> No.764934

Have a few, use them for my games nights as piles of carts tend to irritate me for some reason

Have
>Everdrive MD - Great for runing hacks
>Everdrive 64 - Cheaper than getting some of those more desirable games
>Master Everdrive - Recent buy, unsure, but it works
>Super ufo pro 8 - Urgh, pile-o-junk,

Waiting on
>Super Everdrive - Someone I know is puting some DSP-1 chips inside
>Everdrive N8 -
>Harmony cart - (2600), again "piles of games" also saw someone trying to put a cart in the 2600 the wrong way
>Turbo everdrive - Got to get one first

>> No.766440

>>764934
>saw someone trying to put a cart in the 2600 the wrong way

To be fair "label towards rear" made about as much sense as having the controller ports back there and losing a foot of cord.

>> No.766461

Can anyone recommend the best flashcarts for NES, SNES and N64?

My criteria of best is best bang to buck ratio. I don't mind paying a lot for a high quality toy.

>> No.766465

>>766461

NES: Everdrive N8
SNES: SD2SNES (good luck getting one, it's behind 7000 backorders)
N64: Everdrive 64 v2

>> No.766473

>>766465
Thanks bro, checking them out now.

>> No.766494

>>766461
NES: Everdrive N8

Snes: SD2SNES or super everdrive.
Everdrive is half the price of the SD2 but the everdrive only supportes DSP1 games while the SD2 supports all but superFX (with that being added later)

N64: Everdrive 64

>> No.766530

>>766440
Also,
>The power was still on

DONTTOUCHMEFILTHYCASUAL!!

>> No.766657

Super Everdrive is back in stock at Stone Age.

http://www.stoneagegamer.com/super-everdrive-bo.html

10 in stock according to the email I got.

I'd get one, but I was given a PS3 that needs some work, so I'm devoting my free cash to that, and can't do both just yet.

>> No.766674

>>766657
Why even buy that when the sd2snes has better compatibility?

>> No.766686

>>766674

The obvious reason is simply because YOU CANNOT GET AN SD2SNES.

>> No.766694

>>761625

to be honest it'd be easier to use a flash cart that utilizes a SD card over a floppy due to the small file limit size on the floppy

but it entirely your choice in the matter

>> No.766731

For SNES emulation my goal is to play games that were not released in NTSC such as Terranigma and Seiken Densetsu 3 as well as a bunch of RomHacks and regular NTSC games that were released like Earthbound that cost a fortune or I just don't want to dig out all my carts to play.

Would the SD2SNES be the only way to go? Or would the Everdrive work just as good for what I'm trying to accomplish? I don't mind paying top dollar for top quality I just want to play a lot of games, do the carts usually come with a flash card to load the roms onto? How much space would I need for about 100 SNES games?(although it would probly be more like 20)

>> No.766760

>>766731
Here is a review online that I found. Looks like the Everdrive or the SD2SNES is the only way to go

The biggest plus for the EverDrive comes from the fact that it has automatic saves. Saves on the PowerPak are a huge pain. Firstly, it does not create saves. You have to make a blank SRAM file for every single game in your collection and rename it to the name of your ROM. Then, to top it off, whenever you are done playing a game, you can't just turn off your console. You have to hold reset for 5 seconds, then backup the SRAM. If you forget to do this, you stand to lose all your progress! It's incredibly annoying and this is why I play my EverDrive more than my PowerPak now.

>> No.766921

>>766731

Terranigma, SD3 and Earthbound do not use any special chips. They should work in any flash cart.

EB will need you to patch the anti-piracy out of it, or a flash cart that at least has a little intelligence to block its anti-piracy measures.

>> No.766951

Guys, I'm having kind of a crisis here.
My two favorite consoles by far are the NES and Genesis. I've considered getting Everdrives for both - but I'm wondering, is it really worth it? I have a good CRT connected to my PC and original controllers to emulate with, and both consoles are really well emulated. Is it worth the $250?

>> No.766973

>>766951
I for one would stick to buying physical copies, only because when I have EVERY GAME EVER I just don't feel like playing any of them for some reason. When I go out and buy copies, there's a little bit of my wallet that goes into every game, so I feel like I owe at least a little time as well.

If, however, you REALLY want to play the more expensive titles, that will cost more than the price of the flash cart itself, go for it. In my case, I bought an Everdrive 64 so I could play OoT, Majoras Mask, Conker, and Bomberman 64: The second attack, all of which go for way more than the price of a flash cart.
Plus, I got the opportunity to play through some other games I may have overlooked. Like Star Soldier and Nightmare Creatures to name a couple.

>> No.766989

>tfw too poor to afford EverDrive64

Q: Has anyone with EverDrive64 played Conker's Bad Fur Day? Did it run well?

>> No.767000

>>766989
It runs perfectly fine.

>> No.767018

>>766951
The Genesis Everdrive does SO MUCH MORE. It lets you play Master System games without a Power Base Converter, it works for 32X games (if you have a 32X, natch), and it even functions as a SEGA CD RAM CART HOLY BALLS but you have to hold reset to actually save the SRAM to your memory card before powering off.

I don't have it yet, but I want it. I have the Everdrive N8 NES version, and it's the bee's knees. I also have the Turbo Everdrive, because FUCK trying to find TG16 games in the wild after 1995.

>> No.767027

>>763558
I hear the Everdrive is the best simply because the developer is madly in love with the N64.

>> No.767113

>>767000
Okay. If I end up buying one, I'll need to buy an sd => usb
adapter to extract games, right?

>> No.767195

>>767113
The one I got from Retrogate (Everdrive64 V2) I bought with just an SD card slot. Everything is loaded from there so get whatever you need to put files onto an SD card.

>> No.767201

>>767113

Wut

You mean a card reader? Yes, you'll need an SD card and a card reader to load up the SD card.

>> No.767406

>>764064
I'm the person who made the original image on that page.

I plan to go more in depth once I get a chance to. Going to make another image for handhelds, and a third for consoles that I didn't include on the first. This is mostly due to size constraint and wanting to keep an image that gives a quick overview without appearing too 'busy'.

For specific requests be sure to post them on the wiki, and if I have knowledge on them I'll do what I can to write an in depth article.

>> No.768550

>>767406
Always appreciated. I'm going to take another go at photographing stuff that isn't in the wiki already, or stuff that only has like, 320x240 dithered GIF images.

>> No.768896

What's a good flash card for the 3ds that emulates gbc, GBA, nes, and snes? I'm pretty new with this.

>> No.768910

>>768896
>good flash card for the 3ds
Just to be clear, there's not currently any true 3DS flashcarts. There's only DS flashcarts that work on the 3DS.

>that emulates gbc, GBA, nes, and snes
Supercard DSTwo. You'll get slowdown playing GBA and SNES though, purely because a DS/3DS in DS mode isn't very powerful.

>> No.769734

>>767027
I don't think so. If anything, Krikzz is madly in love with the Mega Drive.

>> No.769772

Alright /vr/, 64drive or Everdrive 64?

>> No.769778

>>769772
Everdrive 64. 64drive does nothing to justify paying almost double for it.

>> No.770658

>>768550
Glad to hear it, the wiki is coming along slowly.

>>769772
The both have the same compatibility, so it comes down to price.

>> No.770670

To someone who owns an ED 64:

Do all games run off the CIC 6102?

Even games that have a different security chip (6105, etc)?

>> No.770672

>>764224
so you think it's too hard for beginners but you expect them to do pot tweaks?

the extra effort is worth not needing to burn games in my opinion.

>> No.770673

>>770670
I don't onw one but the games that were having issues now are working.

>> No.770683

>>770673

Yeah, I read somewhere that BJ2EE and Jet Force Gemini were the only two that didn't work; someone hacked them?

>> No.770758

>>770683

I think the cart's firmware does JIT patching for those now.

>> No.770782

>>770683
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=229.0