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You take Tommy's side because he built up an operation worth way the fuck more than $3M and Sonny coming down to take over would ruin it. He took a bunch of disparate run-down buildings and turned them into gold - he even had Sonny's $3M plus interest and Sonny asked for even more and turned Vance into a stoolie.

Nobody's got the moral high ground and Tommy was clearly going into business for himself, but he already rotted for 10 years in prison for Sonny. To send Tommy out on an obvious setup to try and force a $3M debt he had no way to repay or get him killed, it's pretty obvious who betrayed who first.

>>7497226
>It's quite funny how the narrative tricks you into taking Tommy's side.
Shut up, Sonny.

>>7497246
>To send Tommy out on an obvious setup to try and force a $3M debt he had no way to repay or get him killed, it's pretty obvious who betrayed who first.

Nah, the deal was legit. some people speculate that Sonny and Diaz worked together but there's no evidence of that. Diaz shut the deal down because he didn't want competition.

What Sonny wants is for Tommy and the others to do the hard work. Then afterwards Sonny is gonna come in and setup shop. Tommy would probably be killed off in another setup.

So Tommy knows he's gonna be played and he was gonna turn on Sonny before that. By the time the game starts he doesn't have a real plan of action but is gonna follow orders from now. The ambush actually helped him, as it allowed him to identify the big player and a reason to take him out to hijack the operations.

>>7497226
>Mob Rules


Are you a child who believes that Godfather or Goodfellas is realistic?

>>7497273

They operate like a business with a strict hierarchy. Sonny is the Don of the Forelli family, and Tommy isn't even a made guy, just an associate. Tommy is violating these rules by going totally rogue and in effect creating a new crime family with himself as head.

>>7497287
Which hierarchy? Wake up, criminals don't care about that. They should only put up with the boss until an opportunity arises.

>>7497273
Goodfellas is about 90 percent accurate according to various researchers into its stories. They may have combined a character or two, but it is based in reality unlike The Godfather.

>>7497304

If you wanna go independent, you go independent. If you want to be Mafia, you be mafia. Tommy never officially broke from the Forelli family and ostensibly was still under Sonny's command.

>>7497273

If you want realism, Sonny would not be talking to Tommy at all. It's unclear if Tommy is even a made guy or an associate. Tommy would report to a made guy or a capo who would in turn report to Sonny. Sonny himself would never go to personally collect either. Don's are always off hand like that. But it's not very dramatic to just be killing people you never met.

>>7497226

>Sonny Forelli: We don't need him to. We just set him loose in Vice City, we give him a little cash to get started. OK? Give it a few months. Then we go down, pay him a little visit, right? See how he's doing.

Sonny says this in kind of an ominous way. It sounds like he was always planning on letting Tommy do the hard work then coming down and killing him in some manner. They could even do something sketchy like having him killed for drug distribution which the Italian families are always officially against. Then they could turn around and take over the operation and tax it themselves.

In this situation, you either die protecting the money or you get the money out. You do not cut and run. If you do you are on the hook for that cash which you are responsible for. Sonny is within his right to kill Tommy right then and there.

gabagool

>>7497273
I really wanna play a realistic mafia game
Buying up massive quantities of ukrainian quark and turning it into fake mozzarella that gets sold for millions, manufacturing "olive oil" that hasn't so much as been in the same zipcode as an actual olive, an import/export business dealing in selling rich-people shit that's not allowed to dictators, sinking boats full of radioactive waste and of course avoiding taxes while doing this all

>>7497460

That would be a business manager genre.

>>7497304

It's called Organized Crime not disorganized crime.

Sonny had it coming for being a drug-dealing mobster. If someone were to whack Tommy in the next installment I wouldn't feel sorry for him either.

>>7497601

Bringing back Tommy Vercetti would be such an obvious move too. You could do modern face scan for Ray Liotta and de-age him a bit too.

>>7497304

>Sammy Gravano: But when you break the rules, in this life, you die.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/video/903820

>>7497287
>Tommy isn't even a made guy

The fuck? Yes he was.

>>7497653

>20 year old made guy

Look at this fool? Yikes.

>>7497679
>20-years-old
The fucking game starts with Tommy getting released from a 15-year prison sentence

>>7497273
we're discussing a video game