/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7488953
Snes or gba
But the real bout is between saturn and playstation

sega saturn

Saturn.

>>7488958
I love the PS1, way more than the Saturn, but no... The Saturn’s D-pad is on an entirely different level. Which is why I’m glad they made a Saturn-style controller for the PS2.

I got this shit because everyone raved about its d-pad, which was admittedly nice, but it started dropping inputs after a week of use. Are 8bitdo controllers decent? I heard their quality has gotten better as of late.

>>7488953
Nintendo Dpads are great. NES, is great. GBA SP and DS lite would be the worst ones.
>>7488965
>using wireless
NGMI

>>7488953
Unironically the N64... best d-pad ever.

>>7488953
notice how after snes nintendo just gave up on the control pad and just made everything analog stick control. I was really hoping they'd bring it back with the Wii, but no every fucking game requires the nunjuck. Sega on the other hand as early as the Master System had diagonals on their control pad and it was easier on the thumb.

>>7488953
>controller

My personal fave is the original Sega Gensis 6 button controller dpad, I still use it (with an adapter) for PC gaming.

saturn
even those meme $20 reproductions feel better than either the xbox one controller or dualshock 4

>>7488953
>switch
>d-pad
get the fuck out of here

>>7488953
Kind of a tangent but why do retards think it's decided by the gate shape instead of double switches like the nintendo patent?

>>7488965
>>7489034
Ding ding ding, we have the correct responses. It's all about it being one piece, and having a concave dip for maximum comfort. Thusly, pic related is good as well.

Saturn model 2. Sega should've just manufactured platform-agnostic Saturn controllers after dropping out of the console race. Those SLS Saturn pads for PC and PS2 are elder god tier.

>>7489134
I've got the 6 button Mega Drive controller in front of me. I don't see why anyone thinks its good???

>>7489150
Fucking nasty!

Literally perfection.

>>7489134
Wish they put in some weight.

>>7488953
M30
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Fighting games and shmups: Saturn
Anything else: SNES
I tried nearly every fucking semi popular controller and nothing beats these two.

>>7488953
Gamecube.
/thread

Does anyone here have both the original saturn model 2 pad and the M30? Are they that different?

Any way to improve a d-pad? Like what could someone add or do to bring it to the next level?

>>7489415
I don't know what could be added to d-pads, but a good d-pad should be always a round one that doesn't allow for accidental diagonals. The only advantage of cross shaped d-pads or the sony ones is that it's not as easy to register a diagonal while trying to tap on cardinal directions (with some exceptions). If a round d-pad only makes it easy to register a diagonal when you intend to, that becomes superior.

Also microswitches are gay unless they are ridiculously soft.

>>7488953
>N64 dpad
Is it any good? I don't really remember using it much.

>>7488953
The GBC and GBA use the exact same d-pad as the GCN controller, but nobody complains about those?

>>7488953
3DS. Holy shit, I love that d-pad.

>>7489525
Spoken as someone who owns a New 3DS, the placement of that d-pad is horrendous. It's actually the worst fucking thing to hold.

>>7489519
Cause it's fine for a handheld. It just sucks on a full-size console controller, due to the small size and the awkward position.

>>7489519
my biggest problem with the gamecube d-pad is that it's hard to access because for some dumb reason they decided to hide it too deep below the surface of the controller
btw the GBA/GBC d-pad are trash too but at least they don't have this issue

>>7489572
Yeah, the placement is fucking cancer, but I got used to it.

>>7489582
What GC games used the dpad for movement? I honestly can't remember 1.

>>7489595
Usually 2D games like Mega Man Network Transmission, but movement is also mapped to the analog stick too.

>>7489415
yeah, for the graphite rubber you can:
>clean it by using it like a pencil on a piece of paper
>refurbish it with a graphite pencil

also if some directions are loose you can add pieces of tap on the circuit board where the dpad is located

>>7489716
>tap

tape

>>7489024
based

I played a whole lot of fighting games on Dreamcast and had less problems with that dpad than any other console.

I don't know but not the Switch

>>7488953
I always loved the playstation D pad.

>>7488965
i also got the 2.4 one, and it had problems. returned it and got the later bluetooth model, which was much nicer.

as for the 8bitdo saturn like pads: they're pretty damn great. pretty sure they have a usb c model now, so that's convenient

>>7489143
they did.

Good luck playing fighters with anything but a Playstation d-pad.

>>7489482
It is literally a SNES dpad but a tiny bit larger. Excellent for Dr. Mario 64 and Wetrix.
Fuck playing Wetrix with N64 stick.

>>7489238
Never used it but that does look very nice

I know people hate people that shill it but if you getting a working one honestly I really like its dpad.

>>7490413
I acknowledge the SLS pad in my post. I'm saying they should've focused primarily on making those pads, making them available for more platforms (GameCube and Xbox), and made more than just a limited Japan only run.

For controllers, SNES, Saturn, and PSX all kick ass. With handhelds, the PSP and GBA-SP come close, but the SP edges it out.

IMO

My favorite d-pad's probably the Xbox One's. Too bad the orientation sucks for 2D games.

>>7490518
im rarted and cant read

>>7489024
Someone stop this madman, h-he's too BASED for this thread.

>>7488953
what's the pad under gc and bottom right?

>>7489908
Dreamcast dpad wasn't bad it just cut into your thumb due to the god awful shells design.

>>7490438
>N64 dpad is literally a SNES dpad
I object, it feels different to me

>>7488953
Dreamcast

>>7488994
Too bad only a single-digit number of good games use it

>>7491440
Hundreds of hours in mvc2 and I don't think I ever experienced that, but I've read many others say it here.

>>7488953
What does this have to do with retro games? Half those consoles aren't even retro.

>>7488953
>no Sega or NEC console d-pads

>>7491546
You must be very light with your inputs. How you can even perform unfly assist combos on pad is beyond me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8nRFwKnCpE

>>7491691
It was me as a ten year old that definitely didn't know about any of that stuff.

>>7489024
This and the gameboy micro have dangerously underrated d-pads/buttons

>>7488953
All of them are shit tier except GBA SP, DSi and DS Lite.

>>7491691
rip gene, the man saying gene splice

>>7488953
saturn

>>7488953
Related question, why did the Gamecube DPad feel like shit compared to the GBA's? Been forever since I used an original Advance.

>>7492239
See >>7489582

>>7491115
Virtual boy and gameboy you fucking zoomfag

>>7489150
If you're serious, the controller would work better after a good cleaning.

Not retro, but the DSI

>>7488953
I always thought d-pad on DS4 was okay, but holy shit it's definitely not okay.
Playing Tiny Toon Adventures right now and the place where you have to slide under the spikes shows how fucking bad DS4 actually is. You expect your character to stay down if you hold "down", but holy shit this damn snoy abomination can't even do such a simple thing.
I even put the camera to double check if I'm not holding the button at some point. But no, DS4 just decides to trigger "left/right" randomly when I'm holding "down". Guess I need another gamepad for retro games.

>>7494972
Here's what I'm talking about. All these years I believed it's a decent gamepad.

>>7495054
yeah thats pretty bad.

>>7489034
It's my fave too although I just use arcade stick these days.

>>7488953
GBA SP and DS Lite are the best ones. I don't know wtf >>7488978 is smoking. Gamecube is clearly the worst. Unless you count the Switch. That's so bad it's literally unusable and doesn't even count as a dpad.

Ah yes, the dpad. Something that no games made after the cutoff for retro games ever use.

>>7495474
Gets used in combat style and inventory switching mostly not counting indies.

>>7488953
DS lite.

>>7495249
Wrong one buddy.

Everyone shits on this but It’s comfy.

>>7495629
While I prefer the 6 button Genny I agree that the fat bastard Saturn pad is comfier than the other one. I still play it all on stick anyway though.

>>7488953
In this picture, the N64 controller, no question.

In general, the Wii Classic Controller and Classic Controller pro. The d-pad on the Wii U Pro Controller is also great.

If I had to chose after that, the original D-pad of the Nintendo DS. To rank them from best to worst: SNES, Gameboy/Virtual Boy, NES/Famicom, Gameboy Advance, DSLite, and Gamecube. (I don't count Switch since 4 buttons aren't really a D-pad despite a D-pad essentially being 4 buttons.) The NES and Gameboy D-pads are too stiff, the SNES D-pad is too loose, ditto for the DSLite D-pad. Really, the classic controller was the only one to get it right but ironically the N64's D-pad was fantastic given how little use it got.

The D-pad of the Gamecube and GBA were inexcusably bad, honestly, and there's no good reason they didn't go with the original Nintendo DS's far superior clicky D-Pad, which is ideal, durable and responsive. The DSLite was likewise a downgrade. Overall, Nintendo's D-pads have been quite spotty for no good reason.

>>7495629
>concave d-pad
How does this even work?

>>7490498
How durable are they? They look nice but I don't want something that won't even last me a year

>>7490498
I put an SNES d-pad, including the contact pad (because they're slightly different physically, so if you put the original d-pad with the 8bitdo contact pad it has a different depth) and honestly I think I fucking nailed it.

>>7488953
I'm gonna go for Switch since Tetris 99 teached me the advantages of having detached directional buttons.

>>7488958
Playstation dpads, are and have always been terrible.

>>7488953
PSP easy

>>7489024
shame about the ergonomics of the device

>>7488965
>third party wireless controller
>especially for a console that didn't have native wireless support
nigga.....

>>7498717
Did they fix the d-pad eventually? Original PSP d-pad is one of the worst ever made.

>>7498778
Which model of the PS Vita is the less Ergonomic one, overall?

>>7495054
I find that useful for guiles critical art tho. Just wiggling your thumb lets you do back forward back forward super fast.

>>7489134
My go-to controller for all retro-gaming.
I haven't found anything that works better,
with or without a 6-button layout (which I prefer)

>>7500042
the 1000 model with a $10 grip is so much nicer in my hands than the 2k. I bought a 2k a few weeks ago just because I was bored and got a good deal on ebay. I doubt i'm going to use it desu.

>niggas in this thread so blinded by console faggotry that they're straight up pretending a single piece rocker d-pad doesn't blow sony's shitty directional buttons out of the fucking water any day of the week
Sad.