/vr/ - Retro Games

>all soi games

wow great games!

>>7484483
generic, safe, struggling for an identity

>>7484483
Secret of Monkey Island, LeCuck's Revenge, Myst, Sam&Max, and Day Of The Tentacle are all point and clicks so shouldn't be on the list, as point and clicks are the worst genre of video game ever.
Dragon Quest has always been shitty so 4 and 5 should be removed from the list.
Turtles In Time should be removed, Konami was was always a terrible embarrassment at beatemups. Snatch up a popular license like Simpsons or XMen, give it good graphics and music, and absolute dogshit gameplay.
Mortal Kombat is an absolutely terrible games.

>>7484524
dragon quest is still better than final fantasy trash

cool to see actraiser and ultima 6 here
the rest is fairly predictable

>>7484483
This board's list would look the same

>>7484524
Wolf3D is also an awful game, as is super mario kart. I think this is more like a quiz for /v/ users for games they recognize,

>>7484581
Hows super mario kart terrible

>>7484586
How is it better than virtua racing?

>>7484591
>Virtua Racing
Super Off Road is better
Top Gear is better
Screamer is better
Road Rash is better
Super Mario Kart is better

>>7484606
God no. None of them have a driving model as enjoyable and tracks as superbly designed as Virtua Racing. Super Mario Kart doesn't even have elevation.

>>7484524
>

>>7484613
Virtua Racing has three tracks and the Genesis port runs at 15FPS with laughably bad dithering. It's easy to see why general audiences would prefer SMK.

>>7484626
A port that came out two years later is irrelevant to the point. Audiences know Super Mario Kart exists, despite it being an awful racing game even for its time - the novelty of the mode7 graphics, silly racing with power ups and weapons compensated for what is ultimately the worst game in the series and an awfully underwhelming Nintendo game. Like I said, this isn't a measure of quality, A lot of /v/ was born after 2000 at this point. They will vote for what they recognize.

>>7484639
Never thought I'd see someone with an autistic hateboner for Super Mario Kart of all games. I guess that's /vr/ for you.

>>7484591
That doesnt answer my question, but I get your point, there are better games that arent on the list.

>>7484640
You must really like Super Mario Kart. Don't worry, I know why.

>>7484648
because you are a tranny

>>7484648
I think it's a good game but there are better racing games out there. Outside of F-Zero though I can't think of a better home console racer by 1992. It's a 60FPS pseudo 3D racing game with a ton of tracks and great graphics and sound.

Super Mario Kart is pure soul and pure fun. Its also the best game in its series
Crazy that people on this very board have a hateboner for such extreme ludo

>>7484657
I think the series is fun, but I don't see any appeal in the first one outside of multiplayer. Even then barely any. I've played it with people recently, seen kids try it - parents, etc. They recognize Mario Kart....then they play it and stop after a minute. It's not a fun game. Given the choice there's so many other better racers out there. As for 1992, Outrunners and RC Pro AM 2 are a good time.

>>7484483
>best of lists
what's the point of these? dont you have enough material to shitpost already?

>>7484675
SMK has good mechanics with a lot of depth, the drifting is difficult to master. Definitely better than Outrunners (not even a console game in 92) or RC Pro AM 2.

>>7484581
Wolf3D isn't awful.
It's 3D just gives motion sickness to us old Boomers.

Most of us enjoyed it when we were kids.

>>7484720
Speak for yourself, Okay?

This existed an entire 6 years before Mario Kart, and outclasses it in every way. Last I checked, racing games are meant to have speed, and if there's one thing the shit SNES was exceptionally poor at, well...

>>7484804
>runs at 30FPS
>basic simulation of a track, no ability to turn 360 degrees
Uh huh.

>>7484804
Noone actually likes Outrun
Smk is fun

>>7484816
Enjoy your crawling through tiny courses whilst listening to music for toddlers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bun8tA_ksZw

>>7484804
What part of "games from the 90s" you didn't understand?

>>7484804
Power Drift is also miles better than Bing Bing Kart.

>>7484827
Are there any 60FPS racing games on Genesis?

>>7484528
Not even remotely. Final Fantasy actually innovates. Dragon Quest purposefully keeps itself dated because it's """"""traditional"""""", meanwhile almost 90% of other games in the genre are more interesting in gameplay or presentation because of this. There's a reason this series isn't cared about in the west.
>>7484581
Wolf 3D and Mario Kart at least have historical significance for being the starting points of popular genres that are -still- popular and being made to this day.

>>7484834
>Fast, but
>Absolutely zero AI
>Absolutely terrible and fake physics
>Still no elevation
I don't know what you think you're proving here. Also, the Mega Drive can do this game with 2 player, the SNES cannot.

>>7484854
So no 60FPS racers on Genesis then?
>the Mega Drive can do this game with 2 player, the SNES cannot.
Peak delusion. Let me guess, you're gonna link to an unfinished techdemo?

>>7484854
MD doesn't have f zero

>>7484483
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>>7484865
What a loss. Not.

>>7484720
Doom is the first good fps. Wolf 3d was just the proof of concept.

>>7484865
>>7484861
It does, this game has 2 player fully implemented (not unfinished, not a tech demo), I've played it, it's far better than what the shit SNES offers, as usual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMz1T0uTzLI
>So no 60FPS racers on Genesis then?
60 FPS literally makes zero difference when your top speed is crawling along at a snail's pace, as in Mario Kart, or when the rest of your game plays like such shit anyway, as in F-Zero. Or are you going to insist on 60 FPS being the end all be all determining factor in what games a game good? I hope you're not a fan of the N64 then, nintendrone, because I would love to have a discussion about how many 60 FPS games are on the Saturn and PS1, as compared to the N64.

>>7484902
There it is, the unfinished techdemo running at half the framerate and resolution. Did I call it or did I call it?
>60 FPS literally makes zero difference
Oof now we're really getting into major coping territory. This thread wasn't even about Nintendo you know? You could've just not entered it to seethe over a game company.

>>7484723
No, you.

>>7484913
>running at half the framerate
I will gladly accept 30 FPS if it means having a 2 player mode, which, again, the SNES is not capable of, but the Mega Drive is.
>and resolution
I know nintendrones are blind, but this is actually 1.25 times higher resolution than the SNES: 320x224, compared to the SNES which can only do 256x224.
>Oof now we're really getting into major coping territory.
Sure, when you misquote me. If your game is shit for other reasons, as is the case with Mario Kart and F-Zero, it doesn't matter if it's 30 FPS, 60 FPS, 400 FPS, 2 FPS; your game is still shit.
>Did I call it or did I call it?
You sure did buddy.

>>7484483
It's fine really, I'm not offended

>>7484929
>I will gladly accept 30 FPS if it means having a 2 player mode
I doubt you have any friends and if you do I seriously doubt any of them would be interested in playing an unfinished techdemo with you.
>I know nintendrones are blind, but this is actually 1.25 times higher resolution than the SNES: 320x224, compared to the SNES which can only do 256x224.
The track itself is clearly lower resolution.

Did you unironically enter this thread just to seethe about a game company for what is no doubt getting into the quad digits time on /vr/?

>>7484902
>not unfinished, not a tech demo
Funny how you try to distort reality to fit your narrative. Even gasega68k, the author of G-Zero, claimed at sega-16's forum that this is a tech demo with simple collision detection and zero AI, but here you are running your mouth and talking shit. And no, there is no 2P support; gasega68k mentioned he could use the extra memory to implement multiplayer but talking is cheap, doing the real work is different.

>>7484929
SMK has a 2 player mode

>>7484929
Top Gear also has 2p

>>7484969
>>7484971
Street Racer and Top Gear 3000 have 4 player as well.
https://youtu.be/j18y3sc3fIQ?t=49 (sadly the only upload of this mode it seems)
https://youtu.be/5OSX31hrd5M?t=75

>>7484939
Nintendrones always get mad when you prove them wrong and end up falling back on weak ad-hominem attacks. Pitiful.
>>7484961
Your information is outdated. ;)
>>7484969
Mario Kart is crawlingly slow and has tiny courses.

>>7484981
The Sega schizo always posts the same techdemos and the same lies about said techdemos. Imagine having a game company live rent free in your head like that. Just sad.

>>7484987
>you

>>7484483
Too light on NES, too heavy on SNES, wrong Genesis games

>>7484524
>nooo, my personal tastes for video games weren't taken into consideration for this!!

>>7484528
truff

>>7484991

>>7484516
Making a best game list is about finding the best games, not having an identity.
The "safer" the list, the more likely it reflects the collective opinion, which is the whole fucking point.

>all of those jrpgs
>no ultima VII, underworld, betrayal at krondor, dark sun shattered lands
>all of those lucasarts point & clicks
>no quest for glory IV, gabriel knight, king's quest VI,

>>7484483
>secret of mana
yikes

>>7484483
>thoughts on their taste?
Best of list made by zoomers born 10 years after these games came out?
No offense but whoever takes this seriously is a fucking idiot.
They just look at lists in the internet and pick the most famous ones they see.

The faggots voting here probably didn't even play a retro game from each year.

>>7484483
>1993
>Not even listing Daytona
Jesus Christ Anon. Zelda 3 and all that other shit over Daytona USA?

>>7484591
Super Mario Kart is a Kart Racer. I don't think it's fair to pit it against true racing games.

Super Mario Kart is still insanely fast paced and a challenge something all Mario Karts that followed have lacked.

>>7484883
Oh shut up, that's not true at all.

>>7484581
Wolf 3D is still incredibly fun with a sourceport.

Seems pretty good but I'm sure the CRPG fans are throwing a fit.

>>7486075
Literal NPC mentality.

>>7484850
FF3 and FF4 should be removed, though. They are both terrible.

>>7486095
The list is invalid too. Most of the games had been stuffed (particularly the sonic ones) and the guy used different polling methods for each year, all of which fail to represent "/v/'s favorite games from the 90s". All it does represent is which games from the 90s /v/ recognizes.

>>7486095
Yeah, the list is nothing, but console garbage, but what can you do when Americans who grew up with consoles are voting in these polls.

>>7486238
I don't see the point in autistically subdividing genres just to give lesser games a chance to be held high in an ultra-specific field. Just point to where it succeeds and falls short if it's really worth acknowledging. I'd put Crash Team Racing right up there with F-Zero GX and Daytona USA, all top notch racers.

>>7486075
No, it's not the point. The point is to actually poll the masses on what games are their favorites. The problem is that they do not know the vast majority of games and thus it's not representative at all. The guy tried to do it with something else that allowed you to vote stuff like "I do not know enough about [game] for the 1993 poll, but too few people actually chose the option. In the end, Doom has as many wins & losses combined as Romancing SaGa 2, Might and Magic 5, etc., and that obviously makes no sense. After all, there are definitely more people who have played Doom than M&M5

>taking a poll conducted on a himalayan deepsea clam flishing forum this seriously
Why?

>>7486992
The OP is mentally ill. His threads pretty much always end up on page 10, as nobody fucking cares, but he keeps on bumping it all day. At least he finally got a trip so I can filter him, but it is odd how desperate he's to poll that shit when the result is garbage anyway.

>>7484929
Snes kills the genesis and yes you are coping

>>7484683
Ignore that anon. It's the OP of those threads. Nobody on /v/ actually participates in these polls. His threads get like ~10 replies every 6 hours.

>>7486998
I'm asking why you care so much, not why he cares so much

>>7487010
I'm not OP, I'm telling you to ignore OP as that guy is the mentally ill fag who spams these threads on /v/

>>7487014
Again, I'm asking why you care so much about the OP. I don't give a shit about his mental acuity. Do you want to suck his dick or something?

>>7484873
>1992
>10
What? The first kirby was garbage, the fuck are you on about? It's literally just zoomers recognizing a franchise and voting for it.

>>7487026
As I said, I'm not OP. I just told you to ignore OP as he's the one who made this thread. It's so fucking obvious and you keep on bumping it like a retard.

I was the only person who voted for Soldier Blade

>>7484654
You must be a faggot for getting fucked so hard, lmoa

>>7486989
Kart Racers are generally a lot slower and don't utilise gears.
>Crash Team Racing on the same level as Daytona
Wake up to yourself.

>>7484483
no samurai shodown, shitty zoomer list

>>7484524
Point and clicks are more of a video game than jrpgs.

>>7484883
>just zoom my shit up

>>7484623
Trump lost

>>7486998
Wow, imagine wasting time to make threads like these when it could've been another console war / twitter screencap thread.

>>7486998
newfaggot spotted. /v/ used to do contest like this more often years ago. /v/ only cares about twitter and eceleb drama now.

>>7487763
Not him but CTR is extremely good anon

>>7487942
there's no point in these threads

>>7487967
the point is that the guy floods /v/ with these threads even though they get no replies at all (i.e. people clearly aren't interested). 90% of the thread consists out of him bumping it.

>>7488076
i see the current thread now has over 100 posts. KWAB

>>7488141
100 posts within 10 hours is very fucking slow for /v/-standards; that means a post every 6 minutes. If it wasn't for that OP being a NEET, the thread would've been dead ~9 hours ago already (see https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/546770702/; he just forgot to bump it once and it was already dead). No matter how you look at it, nobody gives a fuck about that poll.

>>7488185
nobody cares, tranny

>>7487027
Anon. Can you not count to 10? I chose dragon quest 5 as the best game of 1992 not Kirbys dreamland which is sitting at number 8

>>7484483
fucking terrible, yikes

>>7488301
with 10, I thought out of the 10 games listed you agree with all 10 choices. So 10/10, basically.

>>7488291
I accept your concession, shitposter. Now go back to /qa/.

>>7484516
>not obscure enough
Fuck off

Mega Man 3 should be top 3

>>7484483
Looks like reddit made it.

>>7486896
Kill yourself brutally. You have no value.

>>7486991
>No, it's not the point. The point is to actually poll the masses on what games are their favorites.

Which is exactly what I fucking said, you absolute stupid and worthless fucking cunt. God, I hate humans.