/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7472159
If single player, PS1 is probably easier to do. If you wanna do multiplayer, google around for the pre-patched PC version all setup for multiplayer.

>>7472187
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/twisted-metal-2-bf3#download

Is this good? I'm mainly interested in Single Player.
I heard that some maps are different in the PC version.

>>7472159
A lot of ps1 to pc ports of that era were slightly butchered.
Pc version of tomb raider for example had missing effects, worse lighting and missing music.
I don't know if TM2 is as bad, it might have patches, but for singleplayer it might be easier to just emulate and upscale it if you prefer a crisp image.
The only upsides the pc port may have is the ability to play it in 4k with ease, enable texture filtering and maybe mod it.

>>7472159
all my friends would complain that
i always mained minion but they were at MY house playing MY games so i got to be who i wanted

>>7472335
I see. From what I saw the scenarios have less details in the PC port.
Plus I've currently tried it and the only way you can move is just with WASD or arrows.
Didn't try the joystick option yet.

>>7472350
Minion is the best and TM2 Minion is its best incarnation.

>>7472335
How do PC ports do worse, when games are made and developed on a PC? I never understood this.

>>7472763
At the time that was common.
See Turok 1 and 2 ports,those were terrible.

Either the devs didn't know how to deal with PC tech or simply didn't put as much time into it.

>>7472817
They were not terrible in any sense. For 1997,98 turok 1 and 2 were great ports. Even had better quality music and 60fps

>>7472159
There is an updated version that runs on windows 7 and 10 with an online multiplayer lobby and some fixes.
https://discord.gg/FPHhRp2y yes I know you all hate discord, but this is legit.

>>7472763
it's because the game was designed with that specific hardware in mind.
at the time console and pc architecture worked very differently from one another, and in som cases it was just easier to make different games for each platform, even if the game was a multiplat (look at the first two Harry Potter games on each system).
stuff like lighting and visual effects was probably not something you could just port over to the pc version, the pc hardware did not know what to do with any of it, so they would have to redo everything from scratch, and they likely did not have the time or budget to do so.

>>7473139
Very cool

i make sure to keep the spirit alive in my own little way

>>7472763
>How do PC ports do worse, when games are made and developed on a PC?

nobody would buy a game that only worked on workstation tier pc

>>7472159
I beat this game with every character on normal a few years ago. The most challenging runs for me were sweet tooth and grasshopper (no idea how people main the latter aside from her being cute). I'm going to try do it again on hard this time around.

Who do you guys main?

>>7475227
Axel. I use the online client to play friends.

>>7475227
Axel,Sweet Tooth and Roadkill.

Minion if I want more mindless fun.

I'm still sad how they nerfed Axel in next games.

>>7475224
It's worth going through it,TM 2 is one of the most balanced games of the series.

>>7475252
>I use the online client to play friends
Got a link to it?

I actually like how the game forces you to memorize and use combos for energy attacks instead of mapping the to single buttons. That said, I think I've only committed a few to memory:
>freeze
>rear attack
>shield
>jump
Which do you guys see yourself using most? Any you never use?

>>7475439
Yea, https://discord.gg/FPHhRp2y

Warthog 4 lyfe

>>7474028
TF is gay

>>7472159
This game is great and I've seen a lot of fans who consider this the best in the series.

From the PS1 era,definitely. Somehow they another team had more time but kinda fucked up with 3 and 4.

Don't remember the next entries. So is it true?

>>7476335
"Please I want the body of a 20 year old"

"You should've asked for the head too!HA"

God,comparing these endings where the drivers get screwed over to TM 3 is like night and day. They didn't even try with the latter.

>>7476376
Yea, tm3 suffered.

>>7476887
Just beat the game with minion and he got sent to Hell Michigan... How is that worse?

>>7475446
Freeze, shield, and Minion's special are the best and used all the time.

>>7478064
Because he wanted to go to Hell.
Going to a small town without your powers just sucks.
Compare that to 2 where he kills off Calypso.

Plus after 2 ,they really nerfed Minion with each installment.

>TM3
Looks like a Doom enemy,his tank looks worse but other than that he plays the same

>TM4
In name only,he has a different tank which is bigger but less cooler.

>TM Black
A pretty difficult boss,not even a tank and even less a demon
When you unlock him,it's not even the same

Then absent in other entries.

>>7478208

It's surprising how they made him playable,a character this OP would be DLC now.

>>7476367
I believe Twisted Metal Black (the US version, Euro version is butchered) on the PS2 is considered up there with 1 and 2, and I think it was made with many of the OG devs.

>>7478835
Oh yeah,I remember Black had an awful European version. When I found out that I was so pissed off.

Didn't 2012 also had some of the OG devs as well?

TM3 and TM4 are the most technologically advanced Twisted Metal games.

The thing is that, in the other TM games, including the latest PS3 game, the AI isn't really "real", it only exists when the player is nearby (otherwise they just roam aimlessly), only attacks the player, never actively goes after items or health (only by accident), isn't limited by their inventories on what they use, never actively hunts down the player and have no sense of self-preservation. The AI in these games is there to present a fun challenge to the player, without being frustrating.

In TM3 and 4, the AI is "real", it actively exists on the map, not just when the player is near, it intentionally targets each other, it's limited by what it collects (no asspulling items), it flees from combat when at low health and actively seeks health pickups, it becomes more aggressive when the player is at low health.

What went wrong? How can a real AI be less fun than a fake one?

>>7478835
>>7479143
I know David Jaffe returned with a lead role, not sure about Campbell or the other guys from singletrac

>>7479343
>What went wrong?
For me, the level design of 3 just wasn't as memorable as that of 2.i never spent much time with 4

>>7478208
I prefer jump and shield to a lesser extent. Freeze is kind of shitty to use.

>>7479343
It wasn't the AI retard. Why make such a long post when you ignore the controls of 3 and 4 were sloppy floaty shit compared to the tight precision of 2?

>>7479865
There are hundreds of games with a more advanced AI than games that came before.
But everything else sucked in comparison.

This is the case with 3 and 4,worse maps,worse graphics,worse drivers and the controls weren't that good.
Maybe only the OST was better.

The campy but edgy style worked for TM but 3 and 4 pushed it too far to the point it was obnoxious.

>>7475572
You guys should check out this twisted metal 2 pc pack. It runs great with no installation. Works with my controller and even has online play working. Who wants to battle?

>>7472763
they polished the ps2 version and just shoved the pc version out the door, very common practice.

>>7475439
Come play a match online

>>7475227

sorry for party rocking

>>7472350
>Literal cheating vehicle
>My main
You were a fucking cretin.

>>7479343
You have no idea what you're talking about and you have zero understanding of what makes the game good.

>>7481763
I unfortunately just moved to a remote area and my isp has to dig a line to my house. Should have one in a few weeks

>>7481805
Literally how? I have killed myself using her special before. I guess if you use a shield beforehand each time, but then you're draining valuable energy just to use your special and will have less to freeze or jump or whateber else you need to do. Why on earth is she your main?

>>7472852
compare the n64 and pc soundtracks sometime and you tell me what is superior

>>7474028
That's dope af

>>7481570
>Ps2 version
You mean the ps1 version

>>7481883
She's one of those drivers who feels designed to be bullied by everyone else.
But props to anyone who killed Dark Tooth on hard.

>>7481889
The N64 version of Turok 2 OST feels heavier and all around fits with the game more.

>Be some old guy in the first game driving a taxi
>You now drive a giant Ice cream truck that throws fireballs

Is Dark Tooth in TM 2 the hardest boss in the series?
I don't recall any other boss having 2 phases.

It makes a comeback in Head On and is playable but Tower Tooth was such a bigger target that was impossible to not hit it.

Warhawk in Black was tough and dragged for a while given the requirements to damage him.

Same for Minion in Black with that shield,it's more of a chore than actually difficult.

Primeval in TM 3 had all the drivers specials but just Minion in previous games in the end.

Sweet Tooth in TM 4 was stupidly overpowered with that special move that almost one shot killed you.

>>7482583
But in the end Sweet Tooth had the same amount of health as everyone else. IIRC

>>7481883
you need to git gud, runs circles around competition, and bounce after wearing them down.

Handling > Everything

>>7482583
Are there any mods that let you play as him?

>>7483346
His model is very buggy and you can't do shit most of the time.

>>7483346
Yea, there are several car mods in the official tm2 discord. Just go to the releases-cars room.
https://discord.gg/FPHhRp2y

>>7483346
Dark tooth is playable in the psp game.

>>7483371
Here's a new car released about a week ago. An updated crimson fury for tm2.

>>7483383
https://gamebanana.com/skins/188014

Looks cool,is this the same model?

>>7475395
I didn't play Alex much, but I always thought he had one of the best single player endings. It was kind of shocking for me as a kid. How do you play as Sweet Tooth and not get your ass kicked constantly?

>>7475572
Doesn't work.

>>7481951
I still don't think that the valve janitor realised what these items actually were when he greenlighted them but I'm ever thankful for it

Im here to clam that i coined the term 'sweetroll'.

its when youre playing as sweettooth and you take a hit on the side, and it causes you to roll over.. 8 to 10 times? (what seems like forever). way more than any other character in the game. hilarious in amazonia

come at me

>>7483486
Axel in general is fucked.
Stuck in a machine for 20 years is a torture because your dad is a psychopath.

I like to think he ripped off his arms and legs in front of him out to spite, disowning him.

In Black he drags his feet on the ground just as a punishment for not being able to save his wife.

He's hardcore as fuck.

>>7483491
Valve janitors are clueless for the most part. I remember when Ricardo Milos items were greenlighted despite the fact it was a popular meme during that time.

>>7483486
>How do you play as Sweet Tooth and not get your ass kicked constantly?
He's a great combatant, one of the best. he's just the hardest to beat the game with because he, like minion, is a hidden character and thus doesn't get passwords. You have to do it all with 3 lives

>>7483290
That's all I felt like I was doing with her, is running. Running away until more ammo spawns, then unleashing on somebody, then running away again, rinse and repeat. Now of course you kind of have to do this with everyone, especially the smaller vehicals impractical to ram with, but it especially takes forever to complete a single level with her

>>7483649
Grasshopper is like the underdog of the game,it's like hardcore mode for the player.

>>7472159
Does this game have the best OST in the series?

>>7481805
>>7475227
In our friend group there was a guy who mained Mr. Grimm and Grasshopper. He was really good with both.

>>7483594
Dumbest design I've ever seen

>>7483794
It's dumb but also cool.
Still take it over any new vehicle in 3 and 4

>>7483794
shit opinion

>>7483679
>Grasshopper is like the underdog of the game,it's like hardcore mode for the player.

But what about twister? What's strategy for using her special? Usually ill run up, shield up, hit the special, shoot off a naplam for extra dmg, then either high tail it or sield up, but its always seems like im losing 1/3 health during every interaction. any tips?

Also, ive had a friend pretty much 1hit kill me during a yee-haw with a rear-shot shadow special.

(all this is regarding tm2)

>>7483891
reading this post made me appreciate TM again. damn it's a juicy game I havent touched in 2 decades

>>7484017
Twisted Metal in general is a great series.
With a surprisingly charming cast.

TM 1 didn't age that well but still worth checking out. TM 2 is where the good stuff is at.

Fuck Sony for giving up thiss franchise and fuck Jaffe for not giving a chance in favour of God of Snore


>>7483891
With Twister I remember you have to hit and run at a good distance in order to deal damage properly. She's really fast but direct contact with the likes of Roadkill and Axel is suicide.

>>7483853
You must be 12 years old

>>7484054
>this design is absolutely silly, as a Large, Strong 19 year old adult, such designs are simply BENEATH me
>now to continue playing with my toys staring a clown with fire for hair

>>7484070
Who's this? A secret driver? What's his wish when he wins the tournament?

>>7484093
he was only released in the Amiga port. He drives in a hot-dog bus and his wish is to make love to the most powerful man in the world, which turns out to be Calypso, much to Cal's chagrin. His cinematics were cut from the Europe and Australian releases though, for "graphic content", back in the day many euros just believed him to be an unfinished character, unaware of the censorship.
His name is Plump Dumpling, Driver of Doggett

>>7484115
>"So Plump Dumpling,you wish to make love with me?"

>"Your wish is granted"

>Gets in a BDSM suit but gets fucked over for eternity by a weird a machine with a metal drill cock with a poorly drawn Calypso face on it

>"I am Calypso and I thank you for playing Twisted Metal"

>>7484153
Happy ending for both I see

>>7483489
Oh, my bad, here.

https://discord.gg/PQucFAQmKz

are there are portable twisted metals?

>>7484296
Yeah. Head-On for the PSP, which was pretty good back in the day. Probably aged like shit though

>>7484313
It's actually a good entry to the series.
You can play as Dark Tooth and a lot of the characters from 2.
Is the real Twisted Metal 3.

>>7484332
Yeah, I know. I just don't know how it aged.

"Why Grasshopper was so weak?"

Because you have to work hard to get the Good Ending in this game.Legitmately the only "heartwarming" moment in the entire game where Calypso gets screwed over as well.

>>7483383
Was this based on a car from Carmageddon?

>>7483624
>Passwords
What? What kind of retarded baby uses them? Also, Sweet Tooth is shit tier in this game.

>>7483794
Yeah, I remember I thought Axel is fucking retarded. Never played as him.

>>7484047
> fuck Jaffe for not giving a chance in favour of God of Snore

The fuck are you talking about? Jaffe worked on every TM he could and would agree to make a new one in a flash.

>>7484541
Those who uses them in order to continue their progress in the game? It sucks but that's how it was done. Unless you finish their campaign in one sitting.

>>7484548
Axel is weird but I thought he was fun to use,getting close to the enemies with multiple Specials in store is guaranteed to deal tons of damage on them

>>7484553
Jaffe changed,he isn't the one he used to be,he became this weird bitter guy who spends most of his time being angry on Twitter.

>>7484363
Nah, based on crimson from tm1

>>7484235
Sweet, thanks.

>>7484363
>>7483383
Trivia: the teams of both series were initially inspired by the 1975 B-movie Death Race 2000 which in already had some sort of cult following in the 90s.

>>7484632
Yes, I've seen it. I have the nes cart as well.

>>7484851
My condolences

>>7484893
Lol

>>7484578
Yes, he went full SJW tard, but I doubt it would affect his game directing capabilities.

>>7485552
>but I doubt it would affect his game directing capabilities
I don't think he'd be able to do anything like Twisted Metal Black again, and I would expect any classic style of Twisted Metal to not be that good either.

>>7485787
Hey supports what that one faggot did with god of war so it's obvious his soul is gone.

Where is that TM show that Sony has announced a few years ago?

>>7485871
GOW is a massive success but it feels more "limited" compared to Twisted Metal.
There's that much you can do with mythologies while TM had like 4 styles and has far more potential for new stuff.

>>7486335
IIRC they said they're starting production this year now that they found the writers for the job,which are the same ones from DeadPool movies.

>>7486697
Yea, fingers crossed the show doesn't suck. Could pave the way for a new game

>>7486815

We can only hope. I liked the Deadpool movies,not great but the amount of violence and tone would fit better for classic Twisted Metal.

TV series based on videogames can be hit and miss.
You have good stuff like Earthworm Jim,Castlevania,Megaman and Sonic SatAM (Mario and Donkey Kong shows as well to a certain extent).

Twisted Metal is chalked full of lore and characters to work with,so you have to try to fuck it up.

>>7486856
Ewj and sonic were horrible lol

>>7487540
I thought EWJ show was good,not great.
Plus I was talking about the Sonic SATam,the one set in a dystopian future.

TM has potential for a good series,

>>7484235
Thanks anon, I'll have to check this out later.

>>7487672
No prob. The tm2 online multiplayer is pretty much open and play. Fun shit.

What's your fav twisted metal guys?

>>7488812
God tier
>TMPS3, TM2
Top tier
>Small Brawl
Mid tier
>Black, Head-On
Meh tier
>TM1
Nigger, what the fuck are you doing tier
>TM3, TM4

>>7488812
TM3. The RealPhysics engine was sorely underrated. Get knocked on your hood and slide for 900' spinning...in first person mode I could give lots of ppl motion sickness. It was great.

Also, no Specter love?! Find a comfy spot and spam his special backwards over and over. I made kids cry that I was a cheater. So much fun.

>>7489273
Hahaha pretty good list man

i wish they kept the first person mode how it was in the first game

I fucking love TM2 (I even like the PS3 TM game) and it was a crime not to have mel always be Calypso.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YmTagPKzP0

>>7490476
>even
Only literal cretins disliked it.

>>7490614
The biggest crime of the game was having alternative control schemes as every reviewer switched to Run 'n' Gun which is shit compared to the classic scheme but expecting people to actually learn the controls is clearly too much.

>>7490650
Run n gun was my favorite, shoot

>>7489273
Small Brawl was the worst for me.
Not for the cartoony aesthetic but the maps weren't nearly as fun.

Black and Head On are among the best with 2012 and TM2.

>>7490696
Well it is inferior as you cannot do as many of the special moves while maintaining maximum mobility. Classic maybe a thumb destroyer but it really is the best.

>>7490476
>>7490614
TM 2012 was a fun game,it felt like a combination of Black and TM2 in terms of tone.
The problem was the lack of characters,divided in factions instead.

The soundtrack was great too,it did so many things right,too bad it came out too late during PS3 lifespan and vehicular combat games weren't that common anymore.

Even Carmaggeddon despite its revival with crowdfunding didn't do that well either.

>>7490725
>Even Carmaggeddon despite its revival with crowdfunding didn't do that well either.
Carmageddon reincarnation was hit with a double whammy of 1) being niche for the time it came out and 2) their big TECHNOLOGY prevew of their deformation system was released a week after Bugbear showed off Wreckfest (well, next car game at the time) properly and that made carma look like amatuer hour. Carma sold so bad stainless sold the IP to THQ (who amusingly own bugbear - so maybe the finns can pick up where those crazy island folks left off).

I have a great many issues with reincarnation that are all tied down to it sticking too closely to the design of the old games that were the way they were due to technical limitations of the day.

>>7490710
I've been playing run n gun since the warhawk days

>>7490732
>sticking too closely to the design of the old games

I guess they tried to appease the fans of the games but at the same time you need to evolve the formula in some way.

TM 2012 did it,offering new features that enhanced the experience.

Carmageddon,along with Vigilante 8 were big shots that filled the void that TM left when it was at its lowest point.

While it's good going back to the classics you have to offer something new after you've been absent for over a decade.

>>7472763
>How do PC ports do worse, when games are made and developed on a PC? I never understood this.
First tomb raider had no 3D acceleration on PC and it was all software rendering until matrox mystique helped make a patch for their API. Eventually it got support for Voodoo cards and products from other vendors. Most PC gamers didn't have a 3d card whatsoever when tomb raider launched.

PC's in 1996/97 were shit to develop for as each game often needed patches for different brands of video cards, and there were far more vendors compared to the ATI/Nvidia we have today. The late 90s were a mess.

>>7490764
>I guess they tried to appease the fans of the games but at the same time you need to evolve the formula in some way.
Basically yeah. My main issue is the physics are way, way too floaty so no impact has any weight or real feedback to player. This combined with the end of stages basically being the player and the a.i circling each other because neither can get enough speed to deliver a finishing blow really drags it down.

>>7490775
>The late 90s were a mess.
One reason directx is what it is is MS got fed up with all the apis (and the risk of them supplanting their own efforts) so the push to make directx vendor agnostic killed two birds with one stone. That said even if there was one api to rule them all in the late 90's the wildly different capabilities of the various accelerators meant it wouldn't have meant shit.

>>7490709
The maps were hit and miss, yes. But the overall feel and the physics resemble TM2 a lot.

>TMPS3 fucking up Rooftops
Why Jaffe did that shall be a mystery but it inherently stops the game being the best in the series.

>Be in every single console Sony released
>You're hanging out with the newest big franchises
>After a while you get a game on the PS3
>Despite the other games getting some cosmetics based on your series it's not that big of a success
>Over the years other old franchises comeback with remakes,reboots or even sequels
>You're the oldest franchise in Playstation history and don't even give a damn about you anymore
>Your creator became a angry dumbass who whines on social media
>Your only hope is just a TV series which don't know how it's gonna turn out
>TFW

>>7490816
That's my biggest gripe with TM 2012. It had ALL the potential to be the best game of the series,the experience with Black and Head-On was enough to bring the brand to new heights despite being niche and yet it felt "held back" by some weird design decisions.

To this day I still feel it's a miracle they managed to pull out a masterpiece like TM 2 when the previous entry was just a 6.5 out of 10 at best.

>>7490785
There's something fundamentally wrong that a game all about murdering civilians for points and smashing other cars with power ups becomes boring.

>>7490785
The updated tm2 package has video wrappers to make it work in windows 7 and 10 without issues. Kind of like how GoG does it. Check out the official server if you wanna test it out. I linked it earlier in the thread, but here it is again if you're interested:

https://discord.gg/PQucFAQmKz

>>7490845
>discord
No thanks amigo.

>>7490876
>Muh Discord boogeyman

>>7490906
Is Discord plagued by Dark Tooth going around? Wow, what an awful yet exciting place.

Which are the strongest vehicles in the series?
Boss included.

>>7491623
Specter #1

>>7490876
Lol, dipshit. Go back to your Facebook messenger

>>7492104
>>7490876
It's just files to download, you're not forced to talk on Discord or whatever. What a fucking imbecile.

>>7472763
vast majority of consumer PCs were weaker than dedicated hardware

>2021
>A studio can't produce a demolition derby game like Twisted Metal 2

>>7478619
Was TM2 Minion supposed to be Satan?

>>7490906
>>7492104
>>7492559
>one anon expresses a polite dislike for discord
>you lot instantly jump on them with insults
Self awareness is not your strong point I think.

>>7492942
all me

>>7492796
No,some big buff demon whose grant wishing powers were stolen from Calypso.

>>7489289
>>7490906
holy FUCK I love dramatic TM art!

>>7490906
Cool pic.

Higher quality just in case someone wanted it.

>>7482583
Main issue for me with the thing is that I could easily get to him. I could typically get him to the head. BUT THAT FUCKING HEAD. I couldn't do it except once with Mr. Grimm where I'd snipe him with the special, turbo out, head to the health pack because if he sees you for even a fraction of a second, you eat like 15 missiles, and that was it. I think I may have done it once again with grasshopper, but at one point, I know I used a gameshark to look at all the endings, so I don't exactly recall what was legit and what wasn't except for Mr. Grimm, because of the elation tied to that. I was pretty young though and not that great at vidya.

>everyone talks about how hard Dark Tooth is
>never had problems with him as a kid, my biggest problem was surviving Holland
Fuck Holland. Stupid small box map with no cover anywhere, few weapons and little health. Always lost at least 1 life in that fucking level. I remember I would spend the entire game building up a stockpile of Power missiles just to help me kill people quicker once I reached Holland. It was always a race to take down everyone else before they drained my life out. Lost so many lives to getting hit by a single freeze shot and then gangbanged by 3-4 AI cars while still frozen.

Dark Tooth by comparison was simple. Run around collecting weapons, shoot DT as soon as you see him, throw up the shield and run away. Stay out of the fucking subway. Once he's down to the head, throw up the shield and move in for the kill.

>>7494008
Dark Tooth can be a real pain in Hard Mode.
Aside the fact it's massive but the head part is a nightmare to deal with if you're not prepared.

I've found the other bosses to be easier.
In TM 3 it was Primeveal who was just Minion with a bigger health bar.
In TM 4 it was Sweet Tooth with a stupidly powerful special attack.

About Holland,easily the worst map in the game,not enough strategies to build,it looks ugly and has the worst song as well.

>>7494039
>The head part is a nightmare
What? It barely moves and has little amount of HP.

>>7494039
Holland music is awesome. You're a fucking faggot. And the fact that it is completely different from other maps makes it the best map.

>>7494118
But it hits like a motherfucker

>>7494124
Holland barely has anything going on and it's too crammed. Just because it stands out for being different doesn't make it good.

Am I the only one who thought Calypso had his face ripped off in TM 2? It's like they were trying to recreate the one in TM 1 but not as gross.

Then in the next games he had none of it, TM 3 and 4 he's Tommy Wiseau.

>>7494158
Yes, it does. Plus its aesthetics is beautiful. Also, because it exists you have to reach it without losing a single life, so you can spend 1 here and maybe 1 in Hong Kong.

>>7484632
I will check this movie later. Are there any other films or anime that might capture Twisted Metal action? Aside from obvious Mad Max suggestions.

>>7494261

>>7494189
>>7494158
>>7494039
>>7494008

>Shield

... Hold on. Hold the fuck on. Are you telling me you get a fucking shield input in this game and that my stupid child ass didn't figure this out and that's why the goddamn head kicked my ass so much?

>>7494414
The little bar below the weapons is your energy meter which is used for special moves like a freeze bolt, mine and - as said - shield.

>>7494431
Call me retarded, I always thought the AI was cheating to make the game more challenging.

In my defense, I rented the game and when you rented it, you didn't get the manual. There is no tutorial explaining these inputs that I missed and am just learning about now, so I imagine that's probably a soft "fuck you' to renters in the game. I imagine it's probably covered in the instructions.

>>7494443
Yeah,it was the time where the instructions were all in the manual. I remembere replaying these games and completely forgot you could do that.

I wish game manuals were still a thing,a lot of them had some cool illustrations and were done with care

>>7494443
>Manual
I figured most of the based inputs myself just by dicking around.

If a new Twisted Metal game was announced,would you prefer it to be a remake of the old entries or a whole new game?

>>7494531
While a new TM is never ever I would actually like a new game but is a best of compilation as it were. Take the mechanics of the PS3 game, polish them up and then cherry pick the best levels from the previous games and remake them in the suitable style.

Characters can be old or new.

>>7494558
A cool thing would be being able to change your vehicle with some cosmetics or even the color,just to advance the replayability.

Another major aspect is the OST, the series has always been mostly diverse with its music.

Just like Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled but rather being a remake is a whole new game.

>>7494531
I'd be happy with either. But if it's a remake, a good online multiplayer is a must.

>>7494431
Only shitty players have to use freeze, lol.

>>7494558
I'd want it to be 'brand new.' Time to walk along the path of my autism!

Ideally, it would have a story mode, mutliplayer mode that works like it does in the older games, a newer mode called "Derby mode" that is just 32 people thrown into a giant arena littered with weapons and the last standing wins, very much like the older PS1 games, and finally a traditional racing mode ala mario kart. Add in some movement tech and the like to raise the skill ceiling and to give some depth to the combat. Give each racer special moves like the older games, but regulate the input special moves to holding a button and pressing another. Every racer would only have 4 specials and they'll differ on who you choose. This lets you differentiate from certain characters. Darkside might have a shield but Mr. Slam would have something more offensive. These aren't the pick-ups. Finally, you should be able to tune the character you choose. Raising speed for expense of armor even if the character normally wouldn't be fast or armored, up to 25% in either direction for stats. Maybe even experiment with reloading weapons, which would be a pick-up that character always gets every 30 seconds if they don't have one. E.G. Grasshopper respawns a Remote Trap every 30 seconds if they don't have on in their inventory. E.G. Spectre's is a Homing Missile. He has 2, so he doesn't get his free missile until he fires both of them and 30 seconds pass without picking one up.

The idea here is to give a traditional experience that captures exactly what you want from the older games, but give another layer for modern gamers.

I am not a game dev, and I openly admit these ideas sound good on paper but would probably flop.

>>7492627
TM is vehicular combat, not a demolition derby.
Anyway, Rocket League devs wanted to make a car combat, but then added a fun mode with the ball and though it's much more fun.

>>7494414
I'd say the fact you made it to Dark Tooth in the first place without shield, freeze, or jump is pretty impressive.

I didn't noticed when I was younger but damn Axel height in this game is fucked,he's like 20ft tall.

>>7494189
>Also, because it exists you have to reach it without losing a single life, so you can spend 1 here and maybe 1 in Hong Kong.
That only really matters with sweet tooth, since every one else aside from minion gets passwords. It would be near if they had a very hard mode where you were expected to beat it without a game over

>>7496831
>Playing with passwords
Imagine being a fucking retard.

>>7496835
You can beat the game with grasshopper using only 3 lives? I'm calling bullshit.

>>7494516
This. How hard is it to figure out left, right, down?

>>7496852
Grasshopper isn't that hard but her armor is shit, yes. Just spam her special over and over.

>>7499207
>tv show
its going to be shit

>>7499218
>>7499207
I bet it won't even be a tournament with Calypso fucking up the winner. Instead, it's gonna be a ripoff of Mad Max or whatever.

Best thread on 4chan rn

>>7499721
Facts

>>7499327
To be honest if they show Calypso fucking over a winner would be nice.
It would be weird making an entire season only for the main villain winning.

Which one are your favourite music tracks in the series?

>>7499785
the tracks with guitar from the first game

>>7472159

TM3 is the most fun. Steering a car at 90° angle in an instant is not very realistic or fun. It's bullshit for ppl who can't into driving cars in a vidya gaem

>>7499785
Hell on wheels done for the PS3 game. The original score for the game is fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y16a6Het3ro

Side note: girlwithturn was a talon abusing fuck.

>>7500257
TM 3 maps and physics were kinda wack.
Not a bad entry but certainly not on the level of other big shots like TM 2 and 3.

The soundtrack had some bangers.