/vr/ - Retro Games

Based, Ristar is pure kino.
One of the best 2D platformers I've ever played.

>>7462182
>One of the best 2D platformers I've ever played.
Feel the same. No nostalgia goggles either. Played it for the first time a few years back. It even has a fun water stage. Can't say that about most platformers.

I tried a couple years back, didn't hit me hard, but I'll honestly try again, thanks OP

I am a Sonic chad but Ristar was my 2nd favorite platforming series on the Genesis. Playing through it again now, albeit slowly

Ristar is one of my favorite Mega Drive games and replayed it last night. It gets a good amount of key things right.
>perfect difficulty curve
>great swimming controls
>fun bosses
>final boss is actually the hardest part of the game
>1ups are infrequent enough for them to actually matter

I do have some nitpicks though.
>voice samples are too scratchy even for Mega Drive standards (Dynamite Headdy proved they can be better)
>2-2 could've used a little fat trimming
>the water and music mini bosses aren't very engaging
>occasionally cheap enemy placement where you have little to no time to react like those small fish underwater
>1ups in chest respawn after you die but i only noticed one area in 4-2 where you can exploit that
>a few mechanics could've used a clearer teaching element like those turret things in 6-2 and the pressure sensitive flashing tiles with the dancing guitars in 4-2
>Greedy's lightning attack needed a clearer telegraph

I remember reading an interview where one of the developers said that Ristar was designed with the concept if "feeling". That's why he grabs into stuff and shit. A lot of other classic platformers throughout mutiple generations have grabbing mechanics in on way or the other, Super Mario 2, 3 and World, DKC, the Capcom Mickey games, Klonoa, Tomba and probably some others I'm forgetting.
A lot of modern platformers are kinda lacking in "texture" because the focus too much on standard movement mechanics (how many new platformers feature either a double jump or a dash?) instead of letting you feel the world. Not only because of this, but they are often too static in general.

>>7462392
If Ristar grabbed the master emerald, would that be peak feel?

>>7462392
dat feel when

>>7462368
>>voice samples are too scratchy even for Mega Drive standards
This is the biggest surprise for me. For such a top notch game on every other aspect it really dropped the ball on the voice samples. Comix Zone came out the same year and those samples sound clear as day.

Obscure fact time:
> Ristar is actually a tricky abbreviation for Rising Star --- the hero is literally a star

>>7462138
Sonic 1 on Master System is the actual thinking man's Sonic game.

>>7462538
>Sonic 1 on Master System
>playing the inferiour version
For what purpose?

>>7462538
based

>>7462672
I also happen to enjoy the master system sonics

>>7462891
The SMS version of S1 is a shitty beta, you want to be playing it on Game Gear instead.

i know this is /vr/ but imagine a modern ristar game with rayman origins style hand drawn graphics and full 360 directional arm stretches

not that there's anything wrong with the original graphics, they're beautiful, but they don't work very well with full 360 directions.

how you guys pronounce it?

i always called said "rye star" like rising star (uk).
I've heard people call it "ree-star" and "wris-tar" too.

>>7462471
knowing sega, they probably lost the uncompressed samples so we'll never be able to fix this.
>>7462928
do you think lizardcube would be up to the task? they did the art for the wonderboy remake and streets of rage 4. i do like the idea of analog grabbing since there's potential for more precise platforming challenges. maybe if you held a bumper/trigger down you could control each hand independently with both sticks. sega considered making a sequel featuring other star people with different abilities so i'm wondering what they had in mind.

>>7462940
Retards say Rihstar.
Smart people say Raistar.
Weeaboo faggots say Reestar.

>>7462970
im glad you agree. but apparently there is no official way to say it.

gaming historian did a good bit on which name is correct:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_52L4u_aZQ

The drinking man's Sonic game.

>>7463097
Playing this game makes me sick

>>7462138
Thinking about anuses maybe

>>7463683
>he doesn't think about fat juicy brappers

>>7462920
Why is that? That's actually how I played all those Sonics. Had a GG, but not a SMS. I thought the SMS versions were better though.

>>7465597
Here are all the SMS->GG changes:

https://tcrf.net/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Sega_Master_System,_Game_Gear)#Version_Differences

>>7462431
patrician tier: Feel
neutral tier: Dexstar
fag tier: Ristar

it's not a particularly good game anyway

>>7465654
Don't really see how either is better here, looks like it's a preference thing. Also, isn't it worse on GG because of the smaller screen?

>>7465993
take that back fukr

everything about ristar is pure comf

>>7466352
>>7466361
ristar has a gorgeous color pallet and backgrounds. i like how you get a nice view of the planet after launching off world 1. shame that the other planets don't give you as much of a view. maybe they ran out of dev time.
https://youtu.be/W3dkpdOM4X0?t=653

Anybody played the Game Gear version? Obviously it doesn't hold a candle to the Mega Drive version but it's pretty solid for Game Gear standards.

>>7462138
I absolute love that game. One neat detail is the second stage being the background for the first stage.

In stage 1-1 you see the forest in the background, and stage 1-2 is the forest, in stagge2-1 you see a castle and the castle is the second stage and so on.

>>7466574
Is it different enough (e.g. unique level design) to warrant playing through the GG version, or is it just a "demake" of the Genesis game?

The other man's Sonic game

>>7462940
>>7462970
It’s WRIST-ar. The whole gimmick is in his wrists, you retard.

>>7467128
it's very different. it has an exclusive world.
there's coin like stars to collect for lives, an invincibility powerup, a spear you can chuck at walls for platforms. play the japanese version because it has a level that was removed internationally but you can use a game genie code to activate it in the western version.

>>7462138
tried it out and it was pretty mediocre. great presentation but the gameplay was middling.

apparently someone was working on a fan made sega cd port but it got scrapped. the music is fantastic though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okt8Pe5AUFQ

>>7465993
>it's not a particularly good game anyway

It's okay anon not all of us were born with the required high IQ to enjoy kino

It's oe of my favorite video games, but after replaying it so many times I basically know the game like the back of my hand so it's not that fun to play any more. The game gear version of the game was a breath of fresh air even if it's inferior to the genesis version.

>>7467136
that's such a dumb argument. he has stretchy arms not wrists. if that were the case, it'd be called wristar.

the most logical explanation is thats its a portmanteau of "rising star". That game's tag line on the box was even "Catch a rising star!"

>>7463097
That's the acid trip Sonic game.

>>7467297
>gotta have muh speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
>GOTTA GO LE FAST!!! ECHS FUCKING DEE

zoomers... were a mistake

>>7466574
>Obviously it doesn't hold a candle to the Mega Drive version
It's actually not much weaker. It shines more among gg games than the other version does on md.

>>7467128
It's different enough even if it shares a good deal of the md stage layouts when possible.

>>7467863
>pronouncing rise as “ryes”
Cringe

>>7462138
>tfw no Saturn sequel with gorgeous 2D art and CD quality music

>>7469004
sonicfags are always so defensive and emotional. maybe theyre all women, idk.

>>7462138
That's not High Seas Havoc.

I completed Ristar about ten years back, it was alright. Music was really nice and the visuals were beautiful but the gameplay wasn't very interesting. Being this was one of the last games released on the Genesis I expected it to be much better.

>>7470470
Just play Astal

>>7462970
It's a japanese game, so weaboo is the correct one.

>Smart people say Raistar
The greasy kids who needed every character onscreen to be frowning?

How's the Game Gear one?

>>7470606
Shit level design compared to Ristar, and the gameplay isn't as good either, can't swing off stuff with your arms and bounce all over the place at high speeds.

>>7470474
Can confirm

>>7470903
Good, but lacks that soulful FM synth music and beautiful parallax scrolling.

>>7470606
The level design in this feels to me more like something you would find in a cinematic platformer.

>>7462138
The DOS Sonic game.

>>7470491
>That's not High Seas Havoc.

Based and DECOpilled.

>>7470903
A must have if you own the system.

that's not decap-attack

Alex the Kid > Reestar > Sanic

...pway wif meh?

:)

>tfw never made it past the music stage
really cool game tho

>>7479552
What you stuck on, lad?