/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7460528
Yeah? Unless your game has a source port it's still the only way to play MechWarrior 2 on a modern machine. If you need extra features then get SVN-DAUM

>>7460528
Depends on your point of view.

>>7460675
>>7460717
You responded to one of /vr's oldest trolls

>>7460528
>still
Never was, kiddo

>>7460528
Stfu newnigger

>>7460528
>DOS-ROM
No one says that.

>DOS-ROMs
>can do anything to them besides read them
Bait

>>7460912
agreed

>>7461873
>>7461941
It's /v/'s cunnyposter

>>7460528
probably

>>7460528
nopes

>>7460528
>still no way to use custom sound fonts with dosbox
You'd think that'd be one of the first things they'd add support for after adding support for MIDI.

>>7464562
You mean you can only use the sound fonts that come with the dosbox hardware you download?

>>7460528
Yes.

I'm computing like it's 1994. Suck the shit out of my asshole, emu trannies

>>7460528
>DOS-ROM's
wtf are those?

I prefer Dosbox-X.

>>7465310
i prefer PCem

>>7465236
Something that makes people seethe

>>7465502
really

>>7465236
https://github.com/dosbox-staging/dosbox-staging/wiki/DOS-ROM-Format

>>7466992
is this i joke

>>7466037
I don't seethe, I just pity the ignorance of people saying DOS instead of the correct IBM+DOS.
It's especially ridiculous when they use it in an attempt to distinguish it from other MS-DOS based platforms.

>>7460528
dfend reloaded on 99%(plug and play) and in some cases SVN-DAUM (3dfx and more)

>>7467463
GNU/DOS

>>7467463
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as DOS, is in fact, IBM/DOS, or as I've recently taken to calling it, IBM plus DOS. DOS is not an computing platform unto itself, but rather another commercial component of a fully functioning IBM system made useful by the BIOS, ISA bus and vital system components comprising a full computing system as defined by IBM.

Many computer users run a modified version of the IBM system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of IBM which was widely used in the 80s and 90s is often called "DOS", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the IBM system, developed by International Business Machines Corporation.

There really is a DOS, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. DOS is the disk operating system: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The disk operating system is an essential part of an computing system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete computing system. DOS is normally used in combination with the IBM computing system: the whole system
is basically IBM with DOS added, or IBM/DOS. All the so-called "DOS" emulators are really emulators of IBM/DOS.

>>7465116
Bless you

>>7467463
fail
>>7467643
winrar

>>7467452
I don't think it's the worst idea ever. Makes it easy to package and distribute your shit so that it just works and is easy for people to just execute and have it work. I think I would still prefer it the "old fashion" way but I can kinda see the appeal in this.

>>7467452
It's not a joke. But the person who made it is.

>>7465310
>>7465502
Anybody who's serious about their DOS emulation is using one of these.
BTW if you don't have a soulful old version of windows installed in your dos folder/image, you are probably zoomtrash.

>>7468845
>serious
>emulation
You sound confused kiddo

>>7460675
Sourceports are for faggots

>>7469124
you sound like a tryhard

>>7470417
based

>>7470417
>>7470708
You sound like a projector and a samefag

>>7469124
>using MOSLO on your authentic hardware for games that run too fast
>doing authentic memory management
>not listening to MT32 music in games that support it because you don't have an authentic MT32

>>7470821
no

>>7471581
based

>>7460528
ao486 core on MiSTer FPGA.

>>7472908
world

>>7471581
>let me show you exactly how confused i am
Damn! It's worse than I thought.

>>7465116
what is this app please

>>7473970
nope!

>>7474393
You could have just told him. He would have thought you were talking about his first handheld.

>>7460528
Not fucking Dosbox Pure that's for goddamn sure. Dosbox X is pretty good but has some annoying UI/usability regressions from the ancient Daum fork.

>>7460528
>Why yes I do call them DOS-ROMs, how could you tell?

>>7460528
I prefer an ast advantage 486dx with dos 6.22, sound blaster awe 32, and a gravis game pad. but dosbox is alright I guess.

>DOS-ROM's don't exis-

>>7460528
I've been told that some people install and run the real DOS 6.22 in a virtual machine.

What are some games that require dosbox-x and not one of the other forks?
I know about Commander Keen and King's Quest

>>7460528
>DOS-ROM's
That aside,
I l've been using pcem for most things recently. It's not as convenient, but it's homier, and works well. Plus I can keep all my dos and early windows games together...

>>7477346
oka>>7477346
y?

>>7478163
:)

>>7479394
based

>>7476787
kings quest

AWESOME!

>>7479394
lol

yes

>>7473970
Autodesk 3D Studio R4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-ymK2b-yI
I used it commercially until early 1996 when its successor 3D Studio Max R1 came out, bringing some very welcome changes like the modifier stack and a more unified workflow.

As for the old Autodesk 3D Studio, it saw wide use from 1990 to 1996.

For example, all the cutscenes and a lot of ingame graphics of C&C Tiberian Dawn were done in R4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNQq_h8AoBA

All the graphics in Wing Commander Privateer were done in R3.

And so many other games, it's hard to count.

>>7483778
spoonfeeding faggot

>>7484515
Thanks for making valuable contributions to the thread. See ya anon.

>>7484515
lol

what

>>7473970
Is that an actual photograph of Irene Engel?

>>7485957
based

>>7483778
Molyneux's Theme Park and Hospital used it for everything. I bought my first legal version of 3DS4Dos in 1995 on budget cd-rom series.
The cracked version was rather unpredictable. After about 60-80 clicks, all verts would go bonkers and you had to reload.

>>7487685
>Molyneux
Stephan lol

>>7485957
>>7485957
yes

>>7460528
This whole thread is a bunch of samefags bumping the thread up with replies like 'yes' 'okay' 'no' ':)'

Absolutely not. Since learning about PCem, I have not looked back. The biggest selling point for me is that you get to emulate the games for the CPU chipsets they were built for. No speed glitches in Space Quest IV or any of the Apogee/Epic Megagames titles.

I have an instance for a 486 DOS/Win 3.11 machine and a Pentium MMX Win98 machine.

I'll have to check.

>>7490801
>I'll have to check.
lol

>>7490801
based

>>7489639
based

>>7489639
lol

Where's a good place or textbook to learn DOS commands?

>>7484515
you got dabbed on good

>>7496110
Let me google ms dos commands for you
https://www.computerhope.com/overview.htm
Not all of these are going to work in regular dosbox dos because they use some weird version. But if you're trying to play games all you need to know is
>cd GAME
(change directory. replace game with the name of your game directory)
>GAME
type the name of your game.exe to run it!
>cd..
go back a level, if you want to be pro try cd\ to go back to root
>dir
list contents of a directory, or use dir /p to pause between each screen for long file lists

>>7464562
>still no way to use custom sound fonts with dosbox
You can use VirtualMIDISynth and use whatever soundfont you want, can't you?

>>7496143
>i zoom zoom zoom zoomed

I got memed hard into PCEM. It seems fantastic at first. You have to a aquire a sort of illegal bios pack to emulate all these vintage computers, install an OS before anything works at all, but then you realize there is no way to just mount your DOS games folder inside PCEM to get some files transfered over. All workarounds are pure cancer, like create an image file and put some games in there, or inject files with some obscure alpha tools, or FTP them over.

>>7498289
Authenticity has a price.. comfy DOSBox has too many advantages to not use it for just games

>>7498289
>I got filtered by PCEM
Not everyone had a triple digit IQ

>>7498289
On a real machine, you'd need to write floppies, burn a CD, or use FTP.
PCem emulates actual specific computers, rather than some mythical machine that never existed.
If you just wanna play games and don't care about dealing with the minutia of how an actual old PC works, just use DOSBox-X. Some shit will break vs on PCem, whether due to the emulated system's CPU timing, the difference between DOSBox's DOS vs real MS-DOS, and various issues with the way DOSBox handles disks, but those issues are few and far between.

PCem is still really god damn easy though. Like, really, really easy.
The utility DiskExplorer (look up editdisk) can mount PCem's default image format easily (select "vmware plain disk" when it asks what), so getting shit in isn't hard.
If the software is distributed as floppies or a CD image, I can just mount that directly with no problem.

>>7497630
Yeah, currently running the SC55 soundfont. Works perfectly, although Windows10 updates regularly fuck with the midi mapper and some inner workings of VirtualMIDISynth.