/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7451898
No, it was a videogame you boardbrain slut. And an unreleased one to boot.

>>7451906
Based retard

>>7451907
What did you mean by this and what did I think about it?

>>7451898
It will be once a billion autists reverse engineer it and fix all the bugs

>>7451898
do you actually fight General Scale in this version?

It was made by R*re so it was shovelware to begin with
>yooo dood it's collectathon kiddie cringefest 5000 yo with dinos and fur fagz and shieet

>>7451908
based /tv/

>>7451898
Don't know yet because the leaked build is unplayably-buggy. Give the autists some time to work something out for it though and I'll get back to you.

>>7451906
soon it will be playable to everyone

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/rares-cancelled-n64-game-dinosaur-planet-has-leaked-online/

It has an incredible amount of soul, that much is certain. SFA is such an bizarre downgrade.

>>7452193
>Aliasing
What the fuck is this. Did you disable the N64 filtering? Absolutely cringe.

It's kino, even though it's still not even in the slightest a finished product.

>To make a short story shorter, game wants to load thing, ram doesnt have its shit together yet, game cant find thing, game dies
>This would likely explain why repeatedly pausing allows people to bypass some area transition-related crashes.
>Yes Exactly why The pause screen initiates a frame buffer of whats on screen when the game is paused and renders it, but things are still loading internally Because the game has time to do its thing, it doesnt crash
Seems like some of Dinosaur Planet's problems stem from the streaming system. The game doesn't have load breaks like other Rare titles. You literally walk between areas through connecting tunnels.

Fixing these crashes is going to be tricky.

>>7452473
I figured a majority of the crashes was because of streaming. The game takes a big performance hit whenever its actually working, so when you head down the waterfall with the falling rocks and effects everywhere it becomes a nightmare.

There's also crashes related to doing things out of order, which is easy to do since the game basically has no structure after unlocking Krystal again. It seems like Cape Claw is perhaps not intended to be immediately visited upon entering Lightfoot Village, and that some sort of flag within Lightfoot needed to be checked?

In Adventures, Lightfoot was after Cape Claw, right? Its nice that we have SFA to use as a reference but stuff is clearly thrown around since Lightfoot would be much later in that game than in this one.

>>7452473
i know the devs at the time were disappointed at having to make this a star fox game. maybe a still salty dev from the old team will be inspired to dump their old source code

>>7452615
Work has started on decompilation already. It'll take a while, but it's just a matter of time. There is a LOT of content in this rom, it's just broken, inaccessible, etc.

>>7451917
can they fix the main character and make her hot

>>7452596
Light foot does happen after cape claw in this build aswell. you just need to fix the issue where the models for item pick up cutscenes crash the game so you can free kyte properly

>>7453860
Not a bug. Also yiff in hell.

>>7451898
would have been one of the best rare games if actually finished and released

>>7453860
I prefer this version of Krystal. She's cute without being furbait.

>>7451898
No, but it will be a pure furludo (once modding community figure out how to make it fully playable).

>>7451907
I mean, he's right, a videogame isn't film

>>7453959
>>7453976
Not a furry but DP Krystal was just way better designed. Since Krystal is often considered a gateway furfag item I imagine had this game made it to market it would have influenced kids to have better taste in furshit. You take one look at SFA Krystal and it's literally just a shitty fursuit in a bikini. Miyamoto's damage can't be understated. Trying to morph the game's plot to be about Star Fox inadvertently changed Krystal to be a blue female fox trapped in a crystal.

Also pic related was made by an extremely butthurt Krystalfag, furfags everywhere are now on suicide mode because everyone else is calling them out on their shit taste.

>>7454220
Some animals are sexy, deal with it.

>>7454220
It's literally just you, fursuitanon.
>Miyamoto's damage can't be understated.
I don't think Miyamoto had anything to do with how Krystal ended up.
>suicide mode
You just can't let twenty year-old games go, can you? It can't be that people are entitled to like what they want, now they have to be on SUICIDE MODE for your petty pleasure. But whatever, I'm sure the solution to your obvious spaghetti-spilling is more samefagging. That'll learn 'em.

>>7454243
Yiff in hell
>>7454258
No samefag here. I prefer to play the game where the characters haven't been designed to give sexual deviants an erection.

>>7454220
>Also pic related was made by an extremely butthurt Krystalfag
i'm guessing it's Douche again?

>>7454290
>I prefer to play the game where the characters haven't been designed to give sexual deviants an erection.
You can't do ANYTHING with cartoon animals without some furry jerking off to it. It's not just the female characters, most furries are faggots and we found out they've also been jerking off to male characters the whole time. Also Pokemon. You can't even inflate a cartoon character with an air pump without causing millions of retards to furiously masturbate. It's best to not even take the furfag factor into consideration.

>>7454437
I think he means games where the devs purposely design their character with sex appeal in mind.

>>7454220
>Since Krystal is often considered a gateway furfag item
The fact that this utterance can even exist and make sense in this universe and time dimension pretty much destroys the scientific concept of a rational universe.

>>7454460
They wanted to give Fox McCloud a hot girlfriend (for a fox). They didn't intend for you to jerk off to her, you are a human!

>>7454473
I don't jerk off to her, but I don't like her SFA design.

>>7451898
Jet Fox Gemini

>>7451898
>makes two dkc sequels
>makes a shit ton of collectathons and cartoony games
>cancels this game
WHY

>>7454220
>furfags everywhere are now on suicide mode
As a furry the only wing I'm on is a huge fight with my EXPANDED DONG since this beta leak.

>>7454290
>I prefer to play the game where the characters haven't been designed to give sexual deviants an erection.
Keep thinking about other people's erections, anon.

>>7454220

>>7454857
Saved

yiff in hell creepy furfags

>>7454437
While true, you shouldn't encourage them.

>>7454767
Keep thinking about other people thinking about other people's erections, anon.

>>7454437
>You can't do ANYTHING with cartoon animals without some furry jerking off to it.
Cartoon animals are furry.
>You can't even inflate a cartoon character with an air pump without
WHEEEZE.jpg

Might I ask, what are the odds of Nintendo fixing this build of Dinosaur Planet and releasing it like they did Star Fox 2?

Or at least update Adventures to feature some of the cut content?

>>7455036
Basically none, unless they announce a SFA port for the switch, but that seems like a streeetch.

>>7455036
There are probably some rights issues there. And Starfox 2 was in far better shape.

>>7455036
>actually believes nintendo is capable of investing time and effort into forgotten beta
They will rather sue every filehosting with this dump.

>>7455086
>>7455093
What about a remake from scratch?

>>7455104
That's an insane amount of work for such a niche product.

>>7455104
Not happening. Nintendo was more than satisfied with SFA.

>>7455036
Zero

>>7451898

It was dino.

>>7455339

>>7455104
I think someone on Twitter was doing that with Unity. He commented on the recent proto release saying he's grateful for now having additional expounding resources. Don't know how far into the project he is. If anybody can find a link, that'd be nice.

>>7455579
If someone says they are doing something from the ground up with Unity it means they are trying to teach themselves Unity. You don't try to recreate someone else's game by eye, in 6 months time you'll still be playing the rom in an emulator and taking notes and trying to pass off mockups as progress.
You take a disassembly (and maybe a decompile if you're lucky) and integrate it into a sort of emulator harness that provides an interface from the old code to your PC code. Over time you replace more and more of the old code with modern code whilst keeping the game logic largely intact, though you will slowly replace parts with equivalent C++. This has the incalculable benefit of giving you all the years of Rare's work up front, rather that you trying to black box reverse engineer all that work.

>>7455742
>You don't try to recreate someone else's game by eye
That's how a lot of the early arcade ports were done

>>7454220
um lmao her face looks fucking deformed

Newsflash, that makes you a furfag

>>7455742
>You don't try to recreate someone else's game by eye
He's not doing that though, or at least that wasn't the vibe I surmised. It sure wasn't going to be a one-to-one remake before this released.

>>7451898
15fps on n64 is kino?

>>7456150
Yes.

>>7456150
Absolutely. Literally souls per second.

>>7455579
>>7455752
>>7456049
Any images of the work or anything tangible?

>>7456367
I've been searching for it for an hour and I'm saddened to say I still can't find it.

>>7454642
You remember they made goldeneye and perfect dark too, right?
Also dkc 2 is a masterpiece

Yes, extremely.
http://tyronesbeefarm.com/images/cb771812-68b2-4405-a9e9-dad3c7e465db55678282ad.mp4

>>7454243
if the future seems dark just look on the bright side, you will be able to have sex with genetically modified anthropomorphic transgender rabbits

>>7454243
BFD ruined her and stole her gameplay. If we're going to criticoze what SFA did to Krystal (at least her gameplay), the same should be said to what happened to Berri.

>>7456870

The games extremely technically impressive for an N64 game but with the PS2 already out by the time it would have released it'd have felt like an artifact. Moving it to the Gamecube was the right call.

It's like making the most technically impressive game you can do on a Switch. An admirable feat and the devs deserve respect for making the most out of the hardware but it's not gonna wow anyone when you have a PS5 and XSX right next to it.

>>7457224
>it's not gonna wow anyone when you have a PS5 and XSX right next to it.
Bad comparison when modern games pretty much hit the peak of graphics. PS5 doesn't even look that much different than the PS4.
A better comparison would have been SNES vs the N64/PS1.

>leaked build has Fox Mccloud instead of Saber
Is this even a right build or just a fan-made demake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDVzwVizJpI&t=579s&ab_channel=NeoGamer-TheVideoGameArchive

>>7457264
It has Sabre as a easter egg and he can be added back with hacks

>>7457353
>>7457264
Nothing fan-made about this leak. Easter egg? not really. Its a rom of the game at a certain point in development, the info for sabre was on the way out but its still there, the assets for fox were just starting to be put in.

>>7457264
>legit prototype gets leaked
>it's a hack, it's a fake, it's a homebrew!
Like clockwork.

>>7457369
Its hilarious like look at this footage. If someone has half a brain its obviously real.

>>7457264
At this stage in development, it was in the early stages of Star Fox-ificiation. Sabre/Fox is now Randorn's adopted son, or something? The political dynamics of Sabre and Krystal being from species that have animosity towards each other is lost, although it might come up in other dialogue. Also, the voice lines for Randorn admitting that he killed Krystal's parents is still in the rom, although his motivation (his other son/Sabre's brother was killed in a war with the Vixon tribe) is mangled by the other change.

I wonder if people will end up getting one of those AI generator things, feeding it dialogue from various DP characters, and trying to patch over some of the holes in the story that resulted from this mid-dev retooling.

>>7457406
Thing is, usually the ai voice things take specific lines or hours of someone talking. We have neither even in the best cases.

>>7457426
We do have several minutes of each DP character speaking from the game dialogue. DP has one hour and 19 minutes of voice acting. You could also slyly augment the performance with Daniel Carrington lines for Randorn, and Joanna Dark lines for Krystal, and Jonathan/Grimshaw lines for Fox.

>>7454642
It hurts for me because my mother was great and got my brother and I both Banjo games around their releases, and I was so obsessed with dinosaurs it was honestly retarded. This game would have been a birthday and or Christmas gift for fucking sure the year it released.

>>7452204
that pattern design is in SFA as skylights, but it wasn't used as effectively as this.

>>7453860
No but I can

tomorrow, keep running into improvement creep

It is a little annoying that some plot elements have had Star Fox copypasted over them in a way that doesn't really work. But I think that overall most people will be enchanted with a version modded to be playable from start to finish. It has so much... AESTHETIC. It really does make Star Fox Adventures feel like a lame cover version by comparison.

>>7454437
>You can't do ANYTHING with cartoon animals without some furry jerking off to it.

This, if you make it more animal they just go dangerously furry and sick bastard

>>7457264
>16 minutes of soul : souless

>>7454290
you seem pretty fixated on this topic, why don't you tell me more about these deviants, anon?

>>7457264
Not, was confirmed to be mid-conversion to Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet on N64, the decision vto move to GameCube (which is really what damaged the game) happened afterward. Besides, Rare couldn't have been too confident in the original male lead if it was going to be yet another Diddy Kong Racing refugee.

Source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/opinion/dinosaur-planet-leak

>>7457369
I remember when The Lost Levels article of NES Earth Bound first came out and made it seem like there was some controversial movement of deniers. All I can think of while reading it was how did I miss this? Everywhere I knew it was accepted as being legit. Were they really responding to trolls, or was it a lame attempt at rewriting history that worked? Or...was I really lucky enough to miss the swath of retards decrying it as a romhack?

>>7452226
Its LLE graphics

>>7457480
>use dialog from other games with the same VAs
clever

>>7451907
Cringe genius

>>7454220
>furfags everywhere are now on suicide mode because everyone else is calling them out on their shit taste.
lol, anon if you think anything but more coom material will come out of this you'll be dissapointed

>>7457997
DP Krystal is not coomerbait.

>>7451898
what do i need to change in the glide ini to make the game look normal

>>7458034
someone's working on this problem, see >>7457626

>>7458039
You should be using GlideN64, not Glide.
https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64
Or this, which includes it:
https://m64p.github.io/

>>7455036
Zero. Nintendo likes Krystal right where she is, and they did NOT "fix" Star Fox 2, that was the final ROM the original dev team made that didn't leak before.

>>7454220
>>7454290
>>7454437
>>7458034

>>7458045
the reason glupen64 and others failed was because they didn't reference the outdated 3dfx glide api in the title.
even if they failed for other reasons, it ultimately comes down to the above.
n64 emudevs won't entirely let it go even 20 years later

>>7458045
>https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64
Thanks I used the 2019 download and then copied over the .ini from 3 days ago and it works

>>7454383
Douche?

>>7458061
Noice job, anon!

>>7454220
The only thing I hate about furries is most of their color palletes are god awful.

Krystal and >>7454243 look better than your average furry because they were made by a guy who knows how color works.

>>7458083
The 2019 download is insanely outdated. You're supposed to use the nightly.

>>7458061

>>7455036
Literally 0
There are probably copyright issues and releasing DP would be equivalent to admitting that SFA and by proxy their handling of the SF IP was a mistake.

>>7454220
Have a bunch of official Krystal art, for your referencing pleasure.

>>7458454
And this too.

>>7458454
the only ones that aren't poop are the bottom left two

the rest are the worst furshit i've ever seen

>>7458034
lmao

>>7458475
I've seen substantially worse. She doesn't looks much like a fox in any of them, though.

>>7458484
Well Donkey Kong doesn't really look like a gorilla and it's drawn by the same person.

>>7451898
more like it was so bad that it made all those "microsoft killed rare" retards look even more retarde

Even if it gets released, the game will attract all the mentally ill furfags so there will never be good discussion about it.

>>7458527
Pro-tip a lot of people posting here already are furfags, and they like good discussion too.

>>7452615
People left Rare a long time ago. Current Rare isn't the Rare of the Nintendo days anymore.
It's more likely and yet still imposible that former Rare (aka Playtonic) pitch something like "Dinosaur Planet: Star Fox Adventures Remaatered" and remake DP close to what it was intended, barring Saber still replaced by Fox.
But I wouldn't mind Fox with a sword and more gameplay time as Krystal.

A Rare dev just commented on the game

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/opinion/dinosaur-planet-leak/

Do you think more than a few devs grew to hate Miyamoto for his meddling in their vision?

>>7455093
Nintendo kept all DP related rights, much how they kept the rights to the stuff Rare did for Donkey Kong, such as the Kremlings and the extended Kong family.

>>7458609
>Just
this article's almost 2 days old. but it's interesting.

>>7458631
From the moment Miyamoto saw Krystal in Dinosaur Planet he knew he wanted her to bear Fox's child, Marcus McCloud.

>>7458652
What if Miyamoto has the largest collection of Krystal fanart in the world?

>>7458652
*litter
bear his LITTER

>>7458523
I'm playin it, it seems alright

It's no ocarina of time

>>7458624
Usually when asked, they mention they miss Nintendo because they gave them more freedom than Microsoft.

>>7458669
>Kept Krystal
>Kept Dk64 Candy
>Kept Tiny and gave her curves
Is Shiggy/Nintendo hinting at something?

>>7458652
Point is, I know it's not happening but there's nothing stopping Playtonic from approaching Nintendo with a SFA remaster that's closer to the original concept.
As it was discussed in the previous threads, the change to Star Fox happened a whole year before the Microsoft buyout and 2 years before the final 2002 deadline. What ultimately fucked SFA to be so gutted out was the buyout deadline and not the Star Fox elements.

>>7458691
>Shiggy
He diggys

>>7458691
I think I read that Nintendo would give Rare character design tips...
probably steered them in the right direction lmao =P

Rare's characters after nintendo are real pukey... Grabbed by the ghoulies, yooka laylee

they desperately needed japanese guidance

>>7454220
>someone got so mad over that old "furries then, furries now" pic laughing at shitty sparkledog OCs that they drew this
kek, and furfags keep wondering why no one wants their brand of autism around

>>7458717
That would explain the shift in style after the N64

>>7458732
>Euro 3D
disgusting

>>7458674
They literally have only one child in (one of) the ending to Command.

>>7457371
Sure, it is always good to be skeptical, but it isnt like forged prototype ROMs are anything close to a common occurrence

>>7458738
The people on the cover look like something from either a High-end 32X or typical 3DO game.

I saw this image with tricky breathing fire which has been discovered fairly recently. Does that mean we can trigger the galdon boss fight now?

>>7458851
Not exactly. We still need to be able to spawn him in the galdon room.

>>7458691
Adult Tiny was done by Rare not Nintendo. But yeah, they did keep her.

>>7458717
Nintendo's art looked pretty bad in the 2000s too.

>>7458882
How does dylan cuthbert feel

Went from top tier with starfox, to starfox 2 being cancelled after completion, he gets to remake it on a handheld years later and they give him this story and art

>>7458926
>How does dylan cuthbert feel
I still don't know how he feels about seeing X as Lunar Chase, he made an offhand remark that he'd like to see it when the gigaleak first happened and then it actually leaked next.

>>7458882
This was done by Imamura, the art and story for Command was all him. Funny how this guy retires last month and everyone cries because he made some F-Zero art and made Tingle. I can definitely see his style come forth now in this but it's like they forced him to use Colors 3D or some shit, it looks so low quality.

>>7458926
>>7459579
I remember him making similar comments to Bayliss but also at the same time questioning how public some of the releases should be, as given the time and era of some of the stuff had literally only been seen and touched by him and maybe 2-3 other people before being archived. Said it felt sort of felt like someone digging up an old journal/diary in terms of privacy

>>7451917
I'm waiting for it to be fully functional and put on a cartridge so I can play it on an original N64.

>>7451898
Not at all

>>7454220
>>7458729
There are more fursonas like that bottom example around than sparkledogs though, what are you guys on about?

>>7458763
Generally speaking, when certain* people/communities release ROMs, they can 100% be considered real.

This list includes: Hidden Palace, tcrf, ForestOfIllusion, Protodude, and some others.

>>7461532
drx

>>7451898
Yes

>>7451898
No

>>7451898
it looks technically very impressive. it's also gonna be rule 34ed by furries until the heat death of the universe

>>7451898
No

>>7458061
it's rare. they knew exactly what they were doing. the shadow effect looks like a hardcoded transparency

>>7458569
Looking at this thread, it's easy to see that furfags can't have good discussion without their sick, disgusting fetish seeping into it. I hope they all yiff in hell.

Only pedophiles like DP Krystal over the SFA one

>>7465014
The shadow is shooped.

>>7458061
Furfags ruin everything. No exceptions.

>>7451898
Yes, it kills me we never got this which could have been a classic instead we got a shitty zelda clone with starfox shoehorned in just to sell more copies.

>>7465049
Agreed

>>7465049
"no"

>>7451906
u were an unreleased featus

>>7463038
That already happened.

>>7451898
When will it be playable on Project64?

>>7467820

>>7467934
Faggot

>>7467939
It's 2021 grandpa, stop using the ZSNES of N64 emulators.

>>7451898
Is that art by Steve Purcell?

>>7467943
Telling someone to kill themselves for posting a perfectly innocent question is cringe. Do you listen to Kpop and post about it on Twitter too? Eat shit and live.

>>7467820
>>7467943
Is it that bad? I'm playing Mario 64 on it and about to play Zelda on it, since I have a shit PC.

>>7454642

this issue isn't that they cancelled it, the issue is that they converted to the GameCube and did a half ass job because of the Microsoft buy out

imagine this game with all the quality of life upgrades on the GameCube, would've been awesome

>>7468075
The last five or six years in the N64 emulation scene has been spent trying to catch Mupen64Plus up to, and eventually surpassing PJ64 because of how shit it and its developers were. PJ64 not a good emulator. It's decent enough with the right plug-ins that you need to go out of your way to download which come standard with Mupen, but Mupen with those plugins is still better. Using PJ64 in 2021 is no different than using ZSNES or Nesticle in 2021.

>>7468160
I'm using Angrylion, looks pretty good

>>7468175
That's fantastic. I also like to use ZSNES to play Super Mario World and it looks pretty good too :)

>>7451898
The Trice's betrayal was great, but the pterogenocide arc and deicide was a bit over the top and too 2000's JRPG for me
>>7454220
>pic
unironically this

>>7458176
What, you don't think dark blue and neon green look lovely together? Are you some kind of blind artlet faggot?

>>7465579
Pleb

>>7451898
quick quick before this threa

>>7451898
Nope