/vr/ - Retro Games

its good they just stretched it too thin with the blue coins

>>7448594
Collectathons in general have aged like milk compared to their linear-action cousins.

>>7448594
What was the youtuber who said this game is bad?

>>7448594
>Take off the rose tinted glasses and you realize how shitty this thread was

>>7448607
>aged

The game has the best setting out of any Mario game and the controls are very responsive, but it's clearly finished and rushed, which is very weird for a mainline Mario game. Stuff like the watermelon mission is the kind of shit you'd see in bargain bin poorly made games.

>>7448594
NOOOO! NOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW I'M STILL LATCHING ON TO THE PAST WHERE I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND GOOD AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO ADMIT MY OWN SHORTCOMINGS! THE GAMECUBE WAS THE BEST CONSOLE NINTENDO EVER MADE WITH MASTERPIECES AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE! MUH COMFY SUMMER TIME

>NOOOO! NOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW I'M STILL LATCHING ON TO THE PAST WHERE I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND GOOD AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO ADMIT MY OWN SHORTCOMINGS! THE GAMECUBE WAS THE BEST CONSOLE NINTENDO EVER MADE WITH MASTERPIECES AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE! MUH COMFY SUMMER TIME

>>7448594
IDK, I just played the 3d all stars collection and I feel that this game still holds up the best despite its lack of polish.

>>7448607
Except Sunshine isn't a collectathon

>>7448720
Reality is worse than the memes.

>>7448774

>>7448769
What do you call collecting the shines, blue coins, etc.?

>>7448803
>>>>>etc

>>7448594
It's kinda funny, I haven't really liked any Mario game. 2 the most out of them in general but I'd only say I mildly like it. Something about Sunshine has always appealed though even though I never played it.

>>7448774
Eh, I wanted to have the games on the go. Wouldn't have got it otherwise.

>>7448594
>Implying people nostalgiafag about Sunshine other than invalid YTers

The lack of long jump is such a boner killer I can’t play more than five minutes

>>7448594
take of those cool sunglasses and realize how SUNSHINY it was

>>7448803
You "collect" most of the shines and coins the same way as you collect flags in SMB1

>>7448598
I was okay with the quantity of blue coins, just the lack of anything saying: "Oh you've collect 10/15 blue coins for this mission" was a killer.
Also the stupid saving text pop-up after each coin collected was annoying.

>>7448607
True, honestly.

>>7449084
Except the level design philosophy in SMB1 and Sunshine is nothing alike (aside from the secret FLUDD-less stages, which are the only good parts of the game in my opinion).

Also, "collectathon" just means a non-linear 3D scotformer that involves searching for the next thing(s) to obtain and complete the objective.

>>7448594
I've thought it was bad ever since I was a kid. Didn't like it then, didn't like it in my young adulthood, didn't like in college, don't like it now. I've only gotten 20 shines or so before I turn it off and do something better.

>>7448854
This. And the nerfed long jump ruined 3D World for me.

>>7448594
I played it recently to test this out for myself. Conclusion? You're wrong, and still my favorite 3D Mario game. Odyssey comes close though.

I played through it for the first time a few months ago. I'm okay with the water mechanics. They're not good or anything, but not really bad either. My biggest complaint is that too much time is spent running around with close to zero indication where to go. There are a bunch of points where it expects you to do something ultra-specific that you're supposed to just know.

>you have a water system on your back
>enflamed chomps are setting the ground on fire everywhere they go
>obviously you're supposed to drag them into the lake with the grab mechanic you've never seen before that no-one mentions

Blue coins are complete bullshit. The Spyro series had a guidebook that gave clues for the big items and the dragonfly for small things which would have been welcome here. I felt like I could have spent another week hunting for blue coins for 100% completion but it felt like a huge waste of time so I didn't bother. The fact that some of them only show up with certain shines selected was also painful.

I get that some people will love it but it's pretty inaccessible for a casual larping as a tryhard like me.

>>7449084
The “flags” in SMB1 literally just signified the end of the level. You weren’t collecting them. The shines in SMS are all scattered throughout the same levels at various points. It’s clearly not the same thing to anyone who isn’t severely deluded.

>>7449102
>scotformer
Opinion discarded

>>7448794
Based

>>7448842
Playing handheld game systems in public is the defining mark of a man child

>>7448594
its comfy af but them fluddless levels take the piss still

>>7448594
I had this when it came out and I agree, this game is pretty lame, and it was SUPER lame at the time. We wanted Mario 64-2 and got what feels like a weird spin-off game instead. Looked pretty though, still holds up very nicely.

>>7448594
Yep agreed, worst 3D Mario.
The levels and vibe are pretty cool and there is a nostalgia factor for sure but it just plays and feels like shit, the missions are one after another, and its tedious at times

>>7448594
I had this game when I was 10 years old and it was always a piece of shit that I didn't like.

>>7448607
I feel this way too, but I believe it's because of age and priorities.
Collecting shit was cool as a kid but as an adult, I play games to get straight into the platforming action that I remember. Couldn't care less about collecting 8 red coins or the blue coins in Sunshine or whatever

I remember playing this for the first time on a demo unit at a local game shop and thinking how they ruined mario and wondered why anyone would want to buy the gamecube.

>>7449102
>scotformer
It was a good post until here. Don't use that word if you want to be taken seriously

First played it this year and its great. OP is a faggot

>>7448607
>games age
Go back to plebbit.

>>7451591
>yfw plebbit is better than /vr/

>>7448668
>NOOOO! NOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW I'M STILL LATCHING ON TO THE PAST WHERE I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND GOOD AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO ADMIT MY OWN SHORTCOMINGS! THE GAMECUBE WAS THE BEST CONSOLE NINTENDO EVER MADE WITH MASTERPIECES AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE! MUH COMFY SUMMER TIME

>>7448598
i love that shit
it's like money, that you collect, and buy shines with

>>7449409
It sounds like you didn't read the user manual. Common mistake.

>>7448594
what do you get by making this thread? Does it make you happy?

>>7448616
best post

>>7451603
Niggas gotta stop identifying what is and isn't retro by when consoles were released. What matters is when their company stopped supporting the system
>PS2: 2013
>Xbox: 2010
>Gamecube: 2007
>Dreamcast: 2001

>>7448594
I'm honestly someone hasn't made a stability patch for this game.

>>7452413
Well I mean I guess I'm someone

It was the last 3D Mario game I'd played (sans 3D World, which I still haven't played) and I was pleasantly surprised. The game is blatantly unfinished but at its best it's still great and overall far from bad.
>>7448613
>youtuber
Sunshine has been the target of derision since it came out.

>>7448594
It's more complex than that. The movement and physics are a step up from 64 (except for that lack of a long jump!). The environments are very nice, and they never feel bland despite the entire game being in a tropical setting. They did a great job in how they handled having both abstract (secret levels) and, for lack of a better term, "realistic" levels. The mission structure is awful and a massive step down from 64, though.

>>7448594
The movement feels better than mario 64 to me, but fludd was lame and should've been replaced with normal beach themed powerups. Building the entire game around it made the whole thing feel like a single note gimmick.
It's fun, but could've been a lot better.
Also the cutscenes trash and should be done away with in mario games (odyssey has this problem too) and the story is shit.

>>7448594
As an aside, I played the PAL version of this game, and I don't know how you bongs could stand playing at 25fps in a platformer.

>>7449551
Those are the only good stars imo

>Sunshine gets a indirect sequel
>it's actually fun

>>7450408
>>7449501
there's also a chance the anon use that term innocently due to rampant /vr/ shitposting becoming the norm.

>>7448594
End-game, blue coin saves, and cutscenes aside it's nearly perfect. What grievances do you have?

>>7448594
>implying it didn't have some of the best boss battles in the entire franchise.

Petey Piranha fight is kino, especially on the 2nd time.

>>7450397

It's fun when it's a puzzle though. I had a great time (as an adult) playing through DKC2 for the first time and hunting down all the cleverly hidden secret golden thingies. But just having collectibles scattered around EVERYWHERE, with most of them not being interestingly hidden, is just a way to add more time to the game. It's like grinding in a JRPG - I somehow enjoyed that as a kid, but now I just find it tedious.

>>7454558
>It's fun when it's a puzzle though
Yup same sentiment here. I just played through the story of Shadow of The Tomb Raider on PS4. I enjoyed it, but the only urge I have to run it again comes from the tombs I haven't beaten yet. Once I do that I'll probably delete it off my hard drive. I have no desire to run around the map picking up hundreds of random artifacts.

>>7448594
Never felt nostalgic for it in the first place. It’s shit.

It's a blantantly unfinished game that completely lacks the usual Nintendo polish.
Same case with Wind Waker.

>>7448594
I didn’t like it and still don’t.
The GameCube had a strange penchant for games with chores. Even the Mario party games had mini games about washing windows and mopping floors. Like what the fuck?

>>7448594
It was the first game to ever disappoint me, I never had rose tinted glasses