/vr/ - Retro Games

Underrated. The shoulder buttons are a bit weird but its a great controller.

>>7441308
I remember the early "personality" of the Saturn in the US, both the advertisements and media, and it seemed like they were really trying to lean hard into the futuristic space tech angle. And this version of the controller seems to vibe with that. I guess they thought the Japanese design wasn't futuristic enough.

>>7441338
this man is a pathological liar

>>7441308
Some tard though it looked kewl

swap out the dpad and get the best of both worlds

>>7441758
literally this
this is where they fucked up

>>7441308
best d-pad ever.

>>7441758
It still looks uncomfortable to hold.

>>7443548
It does. It's almost like someone glued some awkward blocky grip to a normal controller.

>>7441308
Probably wanted to differentiate further from the PS controller, which some at Sega probably the Jap Saturn one looked a little similar to.

>>7441308
Big American hands. Same reason why the first Xbox controller is fuck huge.

>>7443875
>Big American hands
Tested by microsoft programming socks diversity crew

>>7443875
>>7443954

I remember reading an article where Microsoft stated that in multiple test groups before launch, the fat Xbox controller was always rated high marks on its comfort and feel. It beat out 5 other prototypes including one similar to the S design.

Yet it was slammed during launch as worst controller ever. It actually surprised them.

>>7443702
Its actually not uncomfortable. I think its just not well known because they changed to the Japanese pad with the revision so only the early adopters experienced this version. So that's like 12 people.

>>7444023
Because people were judging it without trying it. Its bad reputation was entirely an internet meme. The d-pad was worse than the S but the S revision, which was supposedly universally better, fucked up the black and white button placement.

>>7441308
I don't care if it's missing three more buttons, the feel of this controller was GOAT and so much more satisfying than the later versions

>>7444023
Dpad aside, it's actually a really good controller. Besides which, Microsoft already has an established history of making quality controllers. The Sidewinder lineup gave Gravis a run for their money.

>>7444023
That test was done before all testers wore programming socks

>>7444168
If the sock fits, wear it.

>>7443875
I have manlet hands and I always preferred bigger controllers, especially the duke, even as a kid. The location of the b/w and start/select was stupid though.

>>7441758
playing tomb raider and fighting vipers with this is good.

>>7441308
it looks COOL unlike the other controller
except the dpad, that thing looks bad

>>7444023
The Duke was my favorite. I used it even after I bought the S controller for my friends to use during Dead or Alive or Soul Calibur 2.

>>7441308
Despite the weird look, its actually not bad. The only shitty part is the stiff shoulder buttons.
Of course "not bad" pales in comparison to the original saturn controller, which is the best controller ever designed for 2D games

>>7446782
>the original saturn controller, which is the best controller ever designed for 2D games
People say this but I find the top row of buttons a lot more uncomfortable than they should be. I much prefer the shape and feel of the SNES buttons, for example, than the tiny bumps that are the Saturn X, Y, and Z. In fact, the early US version might actually be ever so slightly better at this.

>>7443875
I'm still mad that this button layout wasn't copied to the S controller. They made the black/white buttons fucking worthless as input controls. Great fucking job moving them to the middle of nowhere, forever relegated to minor menu functions, when you could have been doing any six-button ports actual justice instead. What a fuckup.

>>7444231
It still maintains too, I just recently bought an xbox one controller for the first time (revision 3, the bluetooth model) and it works really nicely for a lot of different things. Helps that there are also adapters to use it for all kinds of things you wouldn't normally, or that it's "standard" for several platforms.

>>7444190
I think this and the US saturn and the US xbox all boil down to the same thing; Americans are bigger than Japanese. This is known and observed; Japanese are aware that they are the smallest of the major SEA populations (besides hyper manlets like the vietnamese or cambodians). Americans just want a bigger grip, and sometimes that works and sometimes it really doesn't. The worst is when they revise the pad and don't have a big version with the upgrades. I love the genny 3-button but you can't play certain games well with it. That's why I mostly play on a nomad these days, that is a comfortable fucking brick.

>>7447729
wew lad

This is the best controller of all time.

>>7444231
Ehhh...

I remember the days when the goal for PC pads was to find whatever was least bad. Even Gravis was only adequate thanks to the shitty SNES and PS1 imitations.