/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7436960
GAME OVER YEAH!

>>7436996
fiiiiiIIIIINISHED

>>7436960
I really like jet ski games. Any good jet ski games on ps1? I am tired of waverace64 and the dreamcast ones.

I bet none of you trannies can beat my Sega Rally track and lap times on Saturn. I posted a thread before and no one even attempted it. I'm just too good and my peepee is too big.

>>7437026
Jet moto, but jet moto sucks

>>7436996

When will Redream get Windows CE support so I can finally fucking play Sega Rally 2 again?

Any N64 racing games that don't run like their engine is full of sand?

How do I play sega rally in 2021

>>7440013
Turn on your saturn and pop the disc in

>>7440013
Does it not work on modern PCs anymore?

>>7440028
I've only played arcade

>>7440029
Well you're either going to want a Model 2 emulator, or get the PC version which is now abandonware and easily found online.

>>7440041
What about other versions of the game? Basically i've only played arcade and i've no idea what the definitive versions are. Oh and the PSP version which is alright.

>>7439990
automobili Lamborghini

>>7440062
All the Sega Rally games are on PC. If it was the original game you want, you can check out a Japanese-only port to PS2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4gyOKoyXM

>>7439987
Degenerate. Play the vastly superior arcade version with the Supermodel emulator.

>>7440218
>Degenerate
Fuck you, stopped reading there.

>>7440165
So which one is the best all around?

>>7440253
Probably either the emulated arcade original or the PS2 version.

>>7440225
>be degenerate
>continue being degenerate

degenerate.

>>7440218
the goggles do nothing

>>7440261
>Be cunt
>Be whiny cunt when called a cunt

Cunt.

>>7440260
thank you

>>7440286
>literally gets triggered over a word
>screeches like an autist
>calls OTHERS whiney

The sheer amount of autistic seething here...

Scud Race > Daytona

I know devs eventually learn how to take better advantage of the hardware, but how the fuck did they do this?
>doubled the framerate
>improved graphics
>480i
>all in the same console

>>7440415
Only has 1 opponent

>>7440415
It was outsourced to nintendo

>>7440415
Less opponents and 4 years of experience.
>480i
Is there any solid proof of this?

>>7440424
>>7440526
>less opponents
this was such a big oversight on my behalf I honestly feel retarded
>480i
>Is there any solid proof of this?
I don't know if it actually renders at a full 480, but it really looks like it

>>7440526
>>7440550

>>7440363
Too cunty, did not read

>>7441667
Cunt > degenerate

>>7440402

Best game on Sega's Model 3 arcade board. And better than Daytona USA 2 and Sega Rally 2 for sure.

>>7442045
What i still find ridiculous is Scud Race came out in 1996. PC had just got Quake a few months earlier that same year, the most technically and graphically impressive game so far, but then it suddenly looked like absolute shit compared to Scud Race. SR was literally the best looking game on the planet when it appeared, by a mile. Nothing could touch the Model 3 hardware. When i first see SR in early 97 in a London arcade it was like looking in to the future. The only other game that has even come close to feeling like that is when i played Crysis in 2007 on my then very high-end PC (which still only managed 20fps).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7bRArcElC8

Now that long time has passed, what is your verdict on NFS Carbon? Many people found it underwhelming compared to the last 2 games because it was way shorter, didn't have as much of distinct identity, the story was silly but not as charming and extremely predictable, the crew and territory mechanic wasn't fully realized and the cop chases were a mere afterthought but overall I still liked it 15 years ago and still like it now, because it was one of my favorite childhood games and I played MW only years later. For many people it's the last good game in the series along with Shift and Hot Pursuit.

The handheld ports are also very good although the original story is really dumb.

>>7440402
based

>>7442601
I think it’s a huge step down from MW and has too many weird mechanics. In terms of the more modern nfs games i loved hot pursuit and surprisingly heat isn’t a bad game. HP2 though is still the peak of the series imo.

>>7442271
>Nothing could touch the Model 3 hardware.

Pretty much. Also: THAT Lockheed Martin graphics solution. People often say that the Dreamcast is as powerful as a Model 3. I have my doubts.

Bump

>>7442601
Cool game that came out too soon and should have been more different than MW.
I wish Raycevick would say less shit and give some sort of source for it.

>>7444486
Who the fuck is raycevick?

>>7444553
>>7442601

>>7436960
>>7436996
I don't even really like racing games that much, but it's still sad that games (racing and otherwise) that are just FUN, and meant to be FUN, aren't really made anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mywEY4ByuhA

>>7443332
>People often say that the Dreamcast is as powerful as a Model 3. I have my doubts
if that was tyrue scud race would of been ported... it didnt because it isnt true at all, model 3 was fair bit pokier.

>>7444695
>it's still sad that games (racing and otherwise) that are just FUN, and meant to be FUN, aren't really made anymore.
I've felt this way since the sixth generation ended. I didn't see the point of getting a PS3 at the time of release and when I finally decided to get one years later because of GTA V, I never had any sort of compulsion to play it because there just wasn't anything worthwhile for it, not even the new GTAs.

>>7443332
>>7445780
DC was likely as powerful as earlier Model 3 boards, but the Model 3 received upgrades over it's life span (higher clocks and more RAM). DC couldn't have matched the later upgraded boards. But one great example of the DC being on par (or better) than the early Model 3 hardware is Dead or Alive 2. Compared to Model 3 fighters like Virtua Fighter 3 or Fighting Vipers 2, DoA2 on DC has considerably higher polygon counts on the characters and considerably larger/more complex arenas. It's definitely pushing more triangles and makes both model 3 fighters look a bit shit in comparison.

Being as Scud Race ran on a early Model 3 board i'm sure DC could have handled it, but Sega had limited resources and possibly didn't want to port a lesser known name. Sega's resources were so low at this point that they ported Sega Rally 2 using the DC's awful Windows CE mode, which made the PC port far easier/quicker and cheaper, but severely gimps the DC's performance. It's why SR2's frame rate is cut in half even with the graphics downgrade and why i REALLY recommend playing the superior Model 3 game over the DC port. If anyone's interested i can explain how to setup the Supermodel emulator (Model 3).

>>7442601
Carbon was OK
But this is coming from someone who hated NFSU2 and NFSMW
underground 2 was more focused on ricing your car and stupid dvd covers
and most wanted was just
do a race and then spend the next 4 hours in a police pursuit to get bounty
Carbon had less of that but it was still to easy and boring for me

>>7445780

Usually when talking about software porting one must have to take into consideration that a code is made to fit one particular hardware in first place.

Similar to - but not extreme as - emulation, the hardware target to receive the port must be considerably powerful enough to handle the shortcuts developers usually take. Alternatively they can take the long road and rewrite the code almost entirely to fit the hardware it`s being port on, for a way better result.

This pretty much explains why Dreamcast struggled to run ported Model 3 games and yet handled Dead Or Alive 2 Naomi ports flawlessly.

>>7445780

Usually when talking about software porting one must have to take into consideration that a code is made to fit one particular hardware in first place.

Similar to - but not extreme as - emulation, the hardware target to receive the port must be considerably powerful enough to handle the shortcuts developers usually take. Alternatively they can take the long road and rewrite the code almost entirely to fit the hardware it`s being port on, for a way better result.

This pretty much explains why Dreamcast struggled to run ported Model 3 games and yet handled Dead Or Alive 2 Naomi ports flawlessly, as this anon >>7447242 already explained.

Finna play the Wangan Midnight series from the beginning, anything i should expect?

>>7448093
>finna
What does this mean?

I can’t tell if this game is good or dogshit

>>7448332
I think it's great, anon. Yeah, tuning was downgraded much since U2, but edgy 2000s vibe and overall presentation just sell the game to me. Also cops were a nice addition to the formula. Carbon threw away almost everything that made MW a good game and became shallow as hell.

>>7448373
>Carbon threw away almost everything that made MW a good game
I liked it because it was less bloated

>>7448103
It's a stylized form of "gonna."

>>7447242
>If anyone's interested i can explain how to setup the Supermodel emulator (Model 3).
if you've got a link with a decent frontend that'd be awesome, getting a wheel soon and i wanna play m3 games

>>7449151
Here's the latest Supermodel version with a good frontend (Sega Model 3 UI):

https://www.sendspace.com/file/zlizc7

For basic setup: Just put all the game ROMs in the 'ROMs' folder, then start Sega Model 3 UI.exe, click on 'Folder' in the bottom left and locate the ROMs folder. Also make sure 'VSync' is always enabled or games run too fast. Some games need the 'PowerPCFrequency' setting adjusted, but 100mhz works fine for 95% of games.

I don't know if this board allows ROM links? Otherwise i'd upload the entire Model 3 set.

>>7448332
cool game

>>7449842
cheers, usually they don't give a shit about piracy here but i can find a full m3 set pretty easily anyway
also the goddamn shop i wanted to buy the wheel from has fucked up its web interface and now i can't buy it, lol