/vr/ - Retro Games

===CURRENT RELEASE===
500ml of /vr/ v 5.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
HARD FAST FAGGOT MAPS
https://anonymousfiles.io/jGQCA5HJ/
NMNV7

=== NEWS ===
[2-15] Doom 2 made of cardboard - Feat - John Romero
https://youtu.be/XKo-CceCXw0

[2-14] Jehar and Tatsyspleen brewing a Multi Quake Challenge, first stage done
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1361002484563591173

[2-14] DSDA-Doom (new fork of PRBoom+) updated to v0.12.1, now including support for Heretic
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2259147

[2-13] Unused Jam for Quake is out:
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62024

[2-11] Gregor Punchatz, creator of the Spider Mastermind model used in Doom posts halfscale version based on original molds on reddit, says will mass produce if iD is interested
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/lhv6z9/i_created_the_mastermind_model_that_was_used_to/

[2-11] whirledtsar releases a reworking of the cut E1L3 map from the 95-09 Shadow Warrior beta
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/11553-newish-shadow-warrior-map-ws-e1l3/

[2-10] Retroquad 2.0 test build released for patreons and paypal, more info on twitter https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1358587176813002756

[2-10] DF Retro streams Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 with Technical feedback and retro pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbtUSy9RvA [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

[2-10] Temporal Tantrum updated, a reunion wad made by four authors from 2048 units of /vr/. 14 MBF-compatible maps with multiple themes and custom enemies
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WIBhEZ1W5-eVdsFX6Bs5keZA1JtByhSI/view?usp=sharing

[2-9] PrBoom-Plus 2.6 um released:
https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus/releases/tag/v2.6um

[2-9] 500ml of /vr/ updated to 5.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

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Cacodemons suck.

>>7426773

Reminder that I did took the meds but still thanks for reminding.

>>7426778
Ask your doctor to up your prescription.

He gets banned from every thread yet he has to have the last word. Every time.

>>7426779
It's already 7 pills per day, I don't think they can prescribe any more than that.

Only old FPS with good boss fights is Blood and that's because you can set the difficulty to Extra Crispy and fight double bosses for some actual fight

>>7426768
Brand new wallpaper that I made.

.

>>7426850
>You threaded in the wrong neighbourhood motherfucker

>>7426850
literally looks like a turd

>>7426768
>[Embed]

Finished my first map for Doom 2. It's too long for HFFM, and in the process I realized I know nothing about monster placement. Stuff I randomly try just doesn't work very well a lot of time. I'd like to make my next map for HFFM and happy to hear some advice and suggestions.
https://anonymousfiles.io/NhI68RFm/

>>7426850

>>7426903
What port did you test it in? Does it need resource pack?

>>7426908
He definitely didn't test it in PrBoom.

>>7426850
What is this for?

>>7426908
>>7426918
Sorry, forgot to mention. Tested in gzdoom, doesn't need anything, only vanilla doom2 iwad.

>>7426850
Cyberfeces

>>7426961
>ow my shoulder!

>>7426903
>https://anonymousfiles.io/NhI68RFm/

Works fine here.

>>7426919
>yes ass fucked fast

>>7426995

>>7426995
>loading gameplay mods before maps
NIGGA WTF ARE YOU DOING

Are there any good WADs like Null Space? I love how fun it feels; really well balanced for single player runs, especially with a pistol start.

>>7426919
>real duke wad

>>7426791
I feel nearly all the bosses in the build games would've served better if they were repurposed as beefier enemies.

>>7427037
are there any doom bosses that don't just get turned into beefier enemies down the line? if not officially then at least by every mod in existence

>doom
more like dumb

>>7427071
There aren't really any "bosses" in classic Doom besides the cyberdemon, mastermind, and Icon of Sin. The bruiser bros at the end of episode 1 are more to introduce the barons, I wouldn't consider it a "boss fight".

For anyone interested, Grimbeard just did a longform review/retrospective of Darkwatch, an FPS from the mid 2000s that is the closest another shooter has come to Blood in terms of theme and aesthetic:

https://youtu.be/i4JP9pXHabo

It's a totally decent game. The guy who did all the Serious Sam retrospectives FrameRater calls Darkwatch "The most underrated FPS of all time". I wouldn't go THAT far but it's worth a play.

>>7427083
It's absolutely a boss fight, Romero himself calls it one. Using early bosses as later regular enemies is a common thing in video games. That doesn't make the earlier fight not a boss fight. The Bruiser Bros are a boss fight - the most unimpressive one but still a boss fight.

>>7427071
>>7427083
mother demon?

>>7427106
>game doesn't respect Women
Yeah, not playing it.

>>7427001
In a hard fast faggot world, you have to fuck ass fast to survive.

What is the point of the enemies that use shrink ray on you in The Birth episode? They don't even try to step on you afterwards

>>7427113
That's in Doom 64 but correct. You do face another one in the new episode in the rerelease (the Mother Demons sister The Resurrector) but its also a boss fight.

>>7427118
Uh what? Why? Do you also refuse to play King's games and Shadow Warrior?

>>7427112
So are the two that we fight in Realm a boss fight as well? Can you consider those two cacos are the start of Inferno also a "boss fight"? Or is it all based on how the monster progression plays out up to that point?
Seems like one hell of a slippery slope.
>Romero himself calls it one.
He also considers Sigil a "megawad", doesn't he?

>>7427134
>So are the two that we fight in Realm a boss fight as well?
No, because unlike E1M8, that is not the culmination of a self-contained shareware episode, it's the beginning of a level.

>>7426791
The Heretic/Hexen series has good bosses.

>>7427148
Only solid answer so far.

>>7427125
So that other enemies can step on you. Being shrunk makes you vulnerable as fuck and you need to avoid being stomped out like a roach until you grow back.

>>7427137
What would the encounter have to be like at the end of Phobos Anomoly where you wouldn't consider it a "boss fight"?

>>7427152
Other enemies didn't try to step on me either but that might be my luck I guess

>>7427130
Just fucking with you bro haha
Gonna try to find a dl link and check it out once I get back home

>>7427076
haha...lol (not)

Whoever told this nigga to start using a microphone deserves to be shot

>>7427157
If it was just a couple of regular low tier mooks like you fought before. You understand that Phobos Anomaly is actually different from all the other official levels for being the absolute beginning of Doom, right?

>end of first episode ever
>first time ever that you see Barons, all new enemy
>level centers around fighting these two dudes which are bigger and stronger than any other monster that's been encountered so far
>have to fight them or you cannot progress and beat the level and episode

Regardless of if later levels use Barons with the intent of them being boss encounters or not (sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't), it cannot be denied that the fight in E1M8 is a bossfight.

>>7427174

nahh hes a goofy guy i like him

got the doom franchise pack on sale, mainly for 64 and to see what bfg 3 is like, is there anything of note with the final/ultimate/2/master level .wads or are they just the censored trash and I'm better off using the ones I "obtained" years ago

>>7426768
Anybody still play Quake 3 on CROM FFA?

>>7427182
>Regardless of if later levels use Barons with the intent of them being boss encounters or not (sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't), it cannot be denied that the fight in E1M8 is a bossfight.
At the same time, I consider it the first initial case of "bad FPS bosses" and that might be why I'm so hesitant labeling it as a "boss encounter".

>>7427207
The pirated ones would be better.
Doom 64 is a fun game, if you've got any experience with Doom, I would highly suggest to play on Watch Me Die difficulty, the highest, because the game is awkwardly barren and easygoing at any of the lower difficulties.

Doom 3 is what it is, it's very flawed, but I think there's an alright shooter in there. BFG Edition makes it a lot easier with a built in flashlight mod, and giving out far more health and ammo, so consider not playing on Easy.
The Shotgun in Doom 3 sucks so hard that it's not even funny, but on the other hand the Chainsaw is supreme and can be used to take on almost any enemy in the game (seriously, try it out, you can even fight Mancubodes and Hellknights with some fast enough movement).

What's the intermission screen for HFFM gonna be?

what enemy mods have enemies using second phases where they play differently from their original role?

>>7426813
Nice

>>7426903
I played until I got killed in arch-vile room, I can see what you mean by knowing nothing about monster placement.

You gotta use more ambushes. Simply having monsters behind a door is not good enough, try putting some on the ledge or a pillar and some to be roaming. You can keep player from funneling them through the door by making him ride the lift up or drop down in a pit.

>>7427234
We already decided this. A heartfelt apology to the LGBT community for originally using slurs in the name of the WAD, and a link to the proof that mappers on the project had donated at least $500 to any transsexual charities of their liking.

>not !!FrQCaIaTfJw
Wrong tripcode, faggot. Fuck off already.

>>7427267
why do I feel like you aren't being ironic?

>>7427273
The only thing you feel is impotent rage because your orange daddy lost.

>7427273
Because you're an idiot who always falls for retarded bullshit like that, I guess.

>>7427267
what about gbf sandalphon getting fucked as a cuntboy, by a futa zatya from overwatch?

>>7427280
That's TOO gay, it needs to be some kind of macho gay.

>>7427278
I'm not the guy you were talking to and I didn't vote for the Israeli Manchurian candidate. Why do faggots superimpose Trump onto literally anything they dislike?

>>7427283
i said, sandalphon is a cuntboy and zarya is a futa
it's technically straight but with reversed organs, but with a femboy and a very manly chick
east and west
gacha and moba fps
a perfect yin yang

>>7427289
We're not doing hardcore genderbender porn for HFFM.

I wonder if HL: Dark Matter was ever a thing beyond concept art and jots on paper?

>>7427339
It will be kino.

>>7427339
https://twitter.com/hldarkmatter/status/1237813896687353862
https://twitter.com/hldarkmatter/status/1236385970284630022

>>7427218
figured about as much with the .wads, but at least now I can say I only play pirated to avoid censorship and unnecessary changes and no moralfags can say otherwise
although I think it packs all of the master levels into one .wad that just werks because all the advice on getting the .pk3 menu addon to work talked about a single masters.wad, is that worth a look?
and yeah I'm not expecting great things from D3 but I am curious, and can always pirate the og since clearly it's abandonware despite them keeping the listing on steam for judaic reasons
thanks for the heads ups about their difficulties though, would've probably avoided 64 on max out of habit of ignoring nightmare

>>7426850
Turdemon?

cacodemons in hd having their corpses electric after they die in hd should be canon
id take notes

How do I overcome my instinct to minimize my dodging footprint which fucks with me whenever I fight arachnotrons and cyberdemons?

>>7427660
Why do you minimize it in the first place?

>>7427674
I don't know, I just do. Always trying to get back where I was before I started dodging which is the problem when monster is still firing.
I think it's maybe because it's easier to maintain my aim or something. I used to play on keyboard which made turning and strafing at once difficult.

>>7427076
HOLY KEK!! xDD DUDE I JUST BUSTED A GUT. WOW!! FUNNEIST THING I'VE REaD ALL DAY!! xD

>>7427076
lel

>>7427076
got 'em, I bet they feel foolish now

>>7427076
If a black guy played doom it'd be called Coon lol

>>7417381
I was so drunk the other day I didn't save my progress
I also vomited on top of my daughter's stuffed dinosaur

>>7427218
>giving out far more health and ammo
Holy shit, really? You already may as well have infinite ammo in vanilla.

>>7427824
That's not very cool of you.

>>7427957
I know

>>7427134
>He also considers Sigil a "megawad", doesn't he?
Yes. His literal reason for doing his big DM maps inside SP maps "genius" gimmick that he sperged out about REKKR doing first was so he could get SIGIL considered a megawad without all the work.

>>7427207
Get the Doom 64 rerelease, the episode alone is worth the paltry asking price. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just poorfag cope.
>>7427218
Like this tard. Cope.

>>7427954
apparently people running out of ammo it was a common complaint for the original. I think it might have had something to do with people refusing to do minor amounts of exploration to find more ammo, or opening the locked ammo storage containers.

>>7428002
*the new episode alone

Does anyone remember when there was a classic BJ head as a cosmetic for Xbox Live?

https://github.com/shpuld/topdownquake/releases/tag/v0.1
Isometric quake just dropped

>>7428039
I had that, kek. I bet my avatar is still wearing it.

>>7426768
Finished another DM map for my server boys, anyone want to try it?

https://anonymousfiles.io/geUDbrkv/

>>7428039
If there was Doomguy or a bloody version I'd get it

>>7428039
Was this unlockable from the XBLA port?

>>7428065
Sure, is the server up now?

>>7428128
Server is, but the map isn't, which is why I uploaded it

>>7428131
Okay, well it's hard to judge a DM map playing in singleplayer. It looks alright at least.

>>7428003
I did a sort of challenge run recently: Veteran difficulty (NM is a meme), no lockers, no health stations, no soul cube besides final boss. Was still swimming in ammo. I can't imagine how people could complain about running out in this game, they had to deliberately waste magazines into nearby wall for that.
Btw, just found out you can kind of pistol/clean start each level by running it through console. It gives you guns you should have by this moment with minimal ammo. Off to another replay I guess.

>>7426768
Can someone recognize the FPS on the left? from a Symbian OS emulator

>>7428158
what map is that?

>>7428180
Tower by Zizz
https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-iii/addons/doomed-by-zizz-2-chapter-1-tower

>>7426919
>help getting life
>hope releases

>>7428175
Found it, it's called Ashen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zln2ADzpTxg

>>7428002
I didn't say that Doom 64 wasn't worth it, I think it is and the new episode was very good (I'd love another one), what I meant to convey was that the package from BFG Edition for the classic .wads wasn't worth his time.

>>7428039
I have it, its unlockable in the XBLA version of Wolf3D. I actually played it a bit last night. Good port but the music is strangely slower (4 beats slower to be exact)

The best classic FPS avatar item though? The classic Doomguy costume unlockable through Doom XBLA. My avatar has been wearing that for years. Doom 1/2 also had unlockable profile pics that were cool too, I use the closeup of the demon looking at the viewer on the cover of Doom 1.

What are some obscure retro FPS games I can claim that I've played in order to make my opinions appear more unique and give my posts greater credibility when debating someone on this website?

>>7428258
Interesting. Good lighting. Not sure if there's no vertical aim or that's a side effect of the N-Gage's controls.
Wish they'd cropped it, the framing gets old fast.

>>7428279
Lethal Tender
Terminal Terror
Angst: Rahz's Revenge
HACX
CyClones
Rebel Moon Rising

>>7428279
Blake Stone 1 and 2

>>7428264
Well in my opinion it was worth it back when it was new. Today however, yes you're right that the BFG edition isn't really necessary. It does include the Lost Levels and the expansion and has the flashlight mounted on the guns, I don't know if the new version of Doom 3 they sell now has all that or not.

My recommendation would be buy Doom 64 and pirate Doom 3 BFG or vanilla.

>>7428302
>new version of Doom 3
It's based on BFG.
If you want vanilla Doom 3 and don't want to pirate, it's on Steam, they sell RoE too.

>>7428307
BFG is a more complete package in my opinion unless you're dying to play the vanilla gay flashlight management minigame (tape doesn't exist on Mars, so Doomguy had no other choice). Plus it comes with more content.

Oh cool there is palette emulation for GDX now for decent colors. And the voxels keep coming.

Kind of a shame for fresh supply, I like how smooth it feels and how less warped the view up and down is. It could have been the ultimate.

Although its weird I still get like ghost dynamite explosions one in a while in gdx.

Does this happen to anyone else?

>>7428258
This... looks like it plays far better than I'd have expected. The player weapon sprites look decent too. Interesting.

>>7428307
bfg edition removes some stuff
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_3:_BFG_Edition#Differences_with_Doom_3
and even the new version of doom 3 removed stuff too
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113479-list-of-things-removed-in-doom-3-2019/

>>7427174
Still better than eggplant.

>>7428361
>more complete package
See >>7428374

>>7428374
What, some options in the settings, some item placement and the red crosses on medkit bring changed? You make it sound like it's got a bunch of real content censored or removed, you always post this when Doom 3 comes up. This is nothing.

>>7428374
I (>>7428307) was recommending buying non-BFG on Steam for that reason.

>>7428382
See
>>7428385

BFG has far more content included, the tweaks are trivial and irrelevant, it is nothing substantial

>>7428374
>New release of Doom 3 doesn't let you rebind controls
WHYYYYYY
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>7428393
resurrection of evil has levels and minigames removed

>>7428385
>>7428393
>Rebalanced difficulty, notably with greater amounts of ammunition available.
>PK4 archives are not supported, meaning any mods made for the original game cannot be loaded.
>At the beginning of Level 03 (Erebus - Level 3) after the transmission the Forgotten Ones do not spawn anymore.
>The "Sarge's Big Game Hunt", "Hellanoid", and "Martian Buddy Blaster" arcade games were all removed and replaced with redundant copies of "Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3," for no known reason.
> The Hell level is missing the Green Forest part. It has also the biggest changes in monster placement. Some monsters have been removed, some have been added.
> Maledict doesn't spawn any Forgotten Ones, instead he only throws fireballs at the player.
"Boo hoo, my graphics options".
Try knowing what you're talking about.
>far more content
Kek, are you one of The Lost Mission's devs?

need help fellas, been messing with .obj models and my quick and dirty set of cubes and planes renders as above on pic in ultimate doom builder (up to date btw) while bottom part of pic is what it looks like in game.
its pain in the ass to work with model like this because it shimmers like mad and it only seems to happen with .obj models, specifically the ones reading textures from game wad, any solutions to this or am I fucked?

>>7428361
The Lost Mission was ported to vanilla two years ago. As for gay flashlight, there's a duct tape mod if you can't stand that mechanic.
There's literally no reason to use BFG other than 3D TV & VR support. Vanilla has everything else plus non-broken mods.

>>7428404
>>7428405
This shit is all irrelevant. BFG is objectively better. Cope.

>>7428464

>>7428464
See
>>7428417

Imagine playing an inferior version because it has shitty classic arcade knockoff minigames

speaking of yt channels, stumbled across this dude https://www.youtube.com/c/QuakeFans/featured really small channel haven't watched a lot of his stuff but he mentioned playing submitted Quake maps so idk just throwing that out there

In case you anons haven't played it, Doom 3 in VR is fucking awesome. The game was practically made for it.

>>7428479
doom 3 wasn't made for VR, it was made for blind people

>>7428475
>shitty classic arcade knockoff minigames
I knew that was going to get cherrypicked.

>>7428475
>>7428487
Wait, BFG is the one that removed the arcade games.

>>7428479
Wish I had a headset now :(
Doom 3, HLA & Serious Sam are my number 1 games to try in VR when I'll be able to.

>>7428291
>Rebel Moon Rising is a PC game produced by Theodore Beale
>The player is on the side of the Lunar alliance, fighting against United Nation forces.
I didn't believe my eyes at first, that is a based pick anon.

>>7428479
I still laugh remembering that the very first mod for doom3 was tapping the flashlight to the shotgun and that mod was praised so high it got magazine articles

>>7428503
taping*

>>7428291
>>7428502
Had no idea this was produced by Vox Day.

>>7428569
More like Vox Gay

>>7428491
Yes, imagine playing the shittier versions and not BFG because they have shitty optional arcade game ripoffs

I smell some serious firepower.

>>7428617

>7428598
>shittier versions
Read >>7428405 and then stfu.

>>7428637
see
>>7428464

>>7428650
>enabling erasure of small history to own the entitled chuds/defend corporation
i guess carmack is a faggot for releasing his game's source codes

Doom 3 sucks anyway.

>>7428668
>defend corporation
See this is what it boils down to. The fags that tell you that the new episode in Doom 64 isn't worth buying it for 5 fucking dollars or the people that rail on bafflingly about how BFG edition is inferior because of some changed features, shit that no one cares about and crappy arcade games being removed, it's because they hate Bethesda. They don't want you to buy anything because muh corporation bad. Who the fuck cares? Denying yourself content or playing inferior versions because you dislike the owner of the IP is peak retardation.

>mods
>"fucking nothing"
gross
>>7428668
I'm not sure how legitimate it is, but I've seen this strange and reoccurring idea that some people are okay with the new Dooms not supporting user content as long as the combat is "perfect".

I like shotguns, Cacodemons, and cute females (differently from how I like shotguns and Cacodemons.)

>>7428679
new content in new ports isn't bad
the bad part is the fact that they remove other parts because it wasn't needed in the first place
zenimax is also blocking romero from releasing more content, even after he loved the new games and worked to have sigil on the new official ports
there was no point in removing features like the ones they removed
at least the regular doom 3 is still out there
but shit like this can lead to blizzard/gearbox esque situations and influence something worse because "some people don't mind"
yeah, the masses don't mind, no fucking way
>>7428680
the brand loyality among new fans is scary when you compare to the "doom boomers" that kept the older titles alive like they owned it
doomwiki exists as a form or protest agaisnt wikia, never forget that

It has come to my attention that Quake II is the ultimate "I'm bored and want to kill some time" retro FPS.

>>7428264
actually the steam bundle has standalone ultimate doom, 2, and final doom in addition to bfg, I was referring to those not the bfg ones (I think they're the same though, aside from maybe the pills get replaced with green crosses on medpacks and the wolf levels return with but with that triangle symbol instead of the pinwheel of friendliness)
so basically if you get the whole bundle including eternal you get doom.wad and doom2.wad 3 times over

>>7428714
It's cool, but why it more than the others?

>>7428731
Specifically for killing time because it's not too hard (Build Engine games), and it's not too easy (Doom). Variety of enemies, bitching super shotgun, bitching OST. It's got it all. I reserve Quake 1 for when I want to focus on what I'm playing.

>>7428690
>brand loyality among new fans is scary
Sums up the last 5 years in any franchise in a nutshell.
>doomwiki exists as a form or protest agaisnt wikia
I recently found out that allthetropes.org exists. It was originally split for different reasons, but it's important to know these things exist.
With all the "you don't have rights we're a private company lol" types around, in the absence of fixing those companies it's good to give the alternatives some attention.

>>7428739
>it's not too hard (Build Engine games)
>and it's not too easy (Doom)
That's odd considering how easy/hard you can make both these days.
Quake 2 is just too slow for me so I need to timescale it, same with Unreal; even then they're not something I want to replay often.

>>7428682
>not liking shotguns the same way as you like cute females

What are some underrated but unique enemies in retro FPS history?
Something you think could be in the same category as the Archvile or Iron Lich
Any enemy that seems "gimmicky" at first but is interesting and perhaps had a lot of potential not explored in the official levels

>>7428749
>allthetropes
redpill me but quickly so it doesn't derail the thread

>>7428764
Mr Friendly

>>7428487
Why are small DM maps so comfy bros.
Also POST YOUR CURRENT PROJECT IN ITS CURRENT STATE, NO CLEANUP.

>>7428764
Coolies from Shadow Warrior are pretty cool for kamikaze enemies. They dont chase you too fast, but they do speed up when you get near. And they cant be cheesed like Duke 3D drones. A room with one of them is instantly more exciting because you have to move around to stay at a medium distance from them.

>>7428783
Less-censorship fork of Tvtropes for reasons related to Tvtropes' licensing policy and run-in with Goolag's ad policy. The non-censorship policy also selects for better users, or at least what we'd consider so on 4chan.

>>7428805
>licensing policy and run-in with Goolag's ad policy
sounds like a fucking mess, thanks for the rundown

>>7428791
a little too rapey

>>7428793
Great, now I want to play some deathmatch

>>7428823
I run Dwango maps on Zandronum (with autobots when there's no other players)
Just search "Everyday"

>>7428829
>with autobots
sounds wicked, sign me up.

Who wants to play a new Skeleton Punching map?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17BXp1IUjnVFUyIU8PHi6eHsWhQAVOpKR/view?usp=sharing

Punch skeletons. Look at portals. Deal with a dynamically evolving arena. Whatever. GZDoom only. Play with hardware acceleration.

for me? it's definitely the tropical shambler

>>7428680
>playing or caring about Doom 3 mods
I am speaking purely in terms of the Doom 3 experience. In that regard, BFG is the better overall package.

>>7427260
> arch-vile room
Do you mean the room with lift, the one in building behind the bridge, or the one with blue key?

>playing Blood
>on E1M6
>Get to a part where there is stairs down to a lower level but there is a window with a bunch of cultists sitting below it I can ambush by dropping some dynamite
>Drop it down and blow them to fuck and jump down there
>there are two Fanatics with Tommy Guns to the side that I didn't get
>Quickly light and toss another bundle of dynamite
>a tiny fucking BAT flies by right in front of me and it hits and explodes, killing the bat and me and not damaging the Fanatics
GODDAMN BATS

>>7428883
There's that downplaying of game modification.
>I am speaking purely in terms of the Doom 3 experience
It's somewhat neat for the visuals but I consider it a downgrade otherwise, unless that's all you value it for. Have they added the option to skip cutscenes yet?

oh...

>>7427250
>Soul, Soul
Souless.

>>7428970
I can hear the fucking cacophony from here.
Do you at least have the hyper buster?

>>7428970
What the fuck is this and what are those guys?

>>7428967
>There's that downplaying of game modification.
This is what I was talking about earlier, you try to make it an argument against the company and anyone who likes a game is a company stooge. It's ridiculous, who cares about any of that shit? I'm not downplaying game modification, all I play is Doom mods. But Doom 3 mods? Who cares, it isn't even that good to begin with.

>>7428976
ye
>>7428982
playing sunlust with gmota those guys are archvile replacements.

>>7428992
>sunlust with gmota
That sounds batshit insane

>>7428992
I suggest opening up with Hyper buster spam and stunlock the shit out of them, then pray you can kill them quick enough before you get mobbed.
Fucking sunlust.

What do the "gun parts" do in GMOTA?

>>7429003
they gun

>>7428991
>I'm not downplaying game modification
>Who cares about any of that shit?
yikes
As a genuine answer, anyone who wants to modify the game obviously. You can even do some basic bitch easy edits for stuff like weapon and monster statistics through notepad.

>>7429015
Are there any good Medieval style WADS to play GMOTA with? Does it work with Heretic and Hexen?

>>7429021
Whatever, you're clearly some slavshit who can't afford anything anyway so this conversation is pointless.

>>7429003
Increases fire rate for the Blazter, so you mash the button and shoot faster. At max you can shoot an extra bullet for free. Blazter's mainly good for stunning bad guys and then using something else to finish them off.

>archvile hell to slaughter hell

fugg

>>7428376
Eggplant is based

>>7429024
It works well with Heretic and Hexen, yes.

>>7429050
Where the fuck is a BFG when you need it.

>>7428376
He's alright.

>>7428761
Well.. I mean.. I guess I could be convinced.

>>7429051
>>7429056
t. Eggplant

I am playing Eviternity for the first time, please talk vaguely about it while I do so.

Look at how pretty the water is in this game. Even the water vials are pretty.

I donno what this thing is but it's cool lookin

>>7428758
>Quake 2 is just too slow for me so I need to timescale it
Go on.

>>7429089
>anon is about to get Goetia-pilled

This wad has really good music too.

>>7429096
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>>7428739
Q2 becomes inhumanly hard with custom maps and the 2 mission packs.
the leap in difficulty is so big that it picks you unprepared.

>>7429102
Ask him.

Time for a literal sneak peek. You guys are gonna love this part of my level.

>>7429108
>Got a mapping problem?
>Can't figure out how to tie all the rooms together?
>Level theme isn't cohesive?
>Throw more revanants at it!

The lighting is also really good, like these blue torches cast a blue light on the knight as he went around and I got scared and thought it was a new pallette-swap monster. (he was just a regular hell knight tho)

>>7429091
Like, how do you do it? Just boot up that console and try "timescale 1.2"

>>7429116
Revenants are just a good enemy. Moves fast and its melee attack is quick so it's actually threatening, putting pinkies to shame. It throws homing projectiles along with this speed unlike the imps, putting them down. They're not spongy like Barons, they're not annoying in giant groups like hell knights. The perfect Doom enemy.

>>7429073
What do you have against Engorged Eggplant?

Really cool custom demon-face texture, into nice idyllic greenery and waterfalls

>>7429149
Too bad its slaughtershit.

>>7429148
he's a slavshit decino wannabe

>>7429131
>they're not annoying in giant groups
EXCUSE U?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?! MY DEAR FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLD THY TONGUE LEST YE BITE IT OFF

>>7429151
This has been Doom 2 levels of monsters so far, the 4th map only has like 150 mobs on it.

>>7429160
>more decino
>plays stuff I see seldom or which is all new to me
I fail to see the issue.

cool ominous demon library

Whats an example of a good slaughtermap?
Whats an example of a bad slaughtermap?

>>7429151
>>7429160
You seem surly tonight.

>>7429160
>decino wannabe
Why is this a bad thing?

>>7429213
Those are some nice textures, love me some library maps. I like to imagine the demons read and learn about their fire spells on their off time.

>>7429220
>Whats an example of a good slaughtermap?
nuts.wad
>Whats an example of a bad slaughtermap?
also nuts.wad

very cool ambiance-inducing low res painting of a naked woman getting out of a bathtub

>>7429151
>Eviternity
>Slaughtershit
At best, you'll get some slaughter-lite encounters here and there. But no way in hell is this wad in the same category as Sunder, Newgothic movements 1&2, Slaughterfest series etc.

>>7429245
Truth Coming Out of Her Well

>>7429245
That is really cool! Comfy library.

>>7429235
The touhou doom wad has a really cool library map or two, if you're into ridiculous fps bullet hell

>>7429245
>>7429249
booba

>>7429213
Zdzisław Beksiński

Very cool mini recreation of another room to tell me it's open now and I can go get the yellow skull off the throne

very cool "SILENT READING TIME IS FUCKING OVER" moment

>>7429239
nuts3 is better because you can actually 100% it.

>>7429252
I'll give it a look, thanks anon.

>Decino
>Dwars
>Dean of Doom
Why do so many Doom channels start with D?

Play Sunlust with Nun with a Gun. Call it Nunlust.
Play Sunlust with HDoom. Call it Bunlust.
Wop your .WAD on the counter. Call it Punlust.

>>7429262
Reminds me of the Doom 64 for Doom 2 remake where, instead of a camera like in the original, they made a miniature recreation of the room to look at.

>>7429274
>Sunlust is a 32-level megawad for Boom-compatible source ports
is gzdoom boom compatible? I setup all my settings and keyfigs and external files all nice and how I like them years ago and I don't want to have to try and do it again.

very cool hulk-pinkie that takes 2 SSG shots to kill and is twice as fast and does a stellar job of boxing me in

>>7429295
lol

>>7429295
Yes, but you'll get slowdown in later maps unless your PC is really good. GZDoom struggles with high monster counts and wide open spaces, and many later maps have both.

>>7429304
DONT LAUGH!!!!! IM NOT UPDATING OR CHANGING ANYTHING

>>7429306
I've never gotten slowdown in anything on gzdoom.

>>7429297
git godmode

ITS COOL
THE WHOLE WAD IS COOL
that's my review thanks for coming

>>7429295
Pretty much all advanced source ports are compatible with boom format. Doomsday is a notable exception, though.

>>7429212
>>7429232
but he's not decino
take your meds

I LOVE """"TECHBASE""""

VERY VERY COOL GOLD CIRCUITRY AND ANIMATED MONITORS ON THIS TECHBASE

Why the fuck won't DoomLauncher start up for me all of a sudden?

>>7426919
>Prodeus literally complete
If only.

>>7429367
We just had some fag post screenshots of their playthrough of Evitternity around a month ago.

>>7429378
Naw, they're depending on the Community to make maps for them. They are running a contest right now $1500 for the best map.

>>7426919
I'm really ashamed that "faggot" and "nigger" aren't on there, much less big prominent words taking up half the canvas.

>>7427012
wtf is this fullbright 1 shit

>>7427134
Those two faggot meatballs at the start of inferno are a beginners trap to either waste all your ammo and patience, or to goad the player into utilizing monster infighting when necessary.

>>7429402
What do we need nigger for when we have [embed]

>>7427148
>the asshole firedrakes or whatever in hexen
>fighter's only ranged weapon is a slow moving projectile
>there's 3 of them in the level
WHAT A NIGHTMARE
but yes they are good boss enemies

>>7429423
Thats the fight in the expansion. The original boss fight was more reasonable because you get the flight powerup and can fly around to get closer to him.

>>7429380
I admit that I feel compelled to share some of my Babel adventures every now and then but never to the extent of these Eviternity playthroughs.
>>7429414
Yeup, and it's all fantastic
>designed by Sandy Petersen
My god he's Doom Santa, he just keeps on giving.

>>7429385
>They are running a contest right now $1500 for the best map.
That's kinda cool actually. I just wish it wasn't for a game so lacking in official content.

>>7429438
>Babel + AA
you're a braver man than I

>>7429347
>but he's not decino
No one said he was

very cool scenery with weird glowing cube monolith

>>7427076
I don't get it.

>>7429380
i only posted like 3 you homo, i wasn't doing this Let's Play shit with running commentary.

>>7427207
>and to see what bfg 3 is like
I am super autistic about Doom 3, I think the definitive experience is the original release with the VariLight mod. It gives unique lights to all the weapons and adds a lot of personality to them. It's not compatible with the BFG edition though.

https://www.fileplanet.com/archive/p-9575/DOOM-3-VariLight-1-1-Mod

>pistol has a laser sight that gives a tiny faint red glow, just barely enough to see what you're pointing at
>plasma rifle has a wide and deep blue light
>machine gun has a tight, bright, focused light
>shotgun is shallow and wide
>etc

Nobody understands me. It's such a little change and it really makes the whole experience a lot better in my opinion.

>want a cool door to exit my level with
>maybe something that like splits in the middle
>there's not really anything that's close to what I had in mind in NMN3_7, none of them feel suitable
>figure I could just steal one from Duke or Lo Wang
>they don't really have anything that fits either
>don't wanna burden people with texture requests
>change of plans
>spend an hour building a Get Smart door running on a VooDoo action

>>7429441
Kinda cool, but kinda shitty too, sort of, in a smart way.
They probably had that money aside from the kickstarter/production funds, and instead of hiring someone to do the work at the rate of 2000 (likely a single map), they can flip it into a community event, get several to a dozen people put out good maps, pay one of them for it (second place 500), maintaining interest and buying the devs time.

>>7429471
>>7429380
fuck you the wad is cool and I'm gonna talk about it

Reminder that Ken Silverman's Voxlap engine was far more advanced than anything Carmhack could ever have come up with. Ken made a 3D engine with fully destructible environment a decade before Minecraft came out, something "muh Based Carmack" could only dream about and look on enviously.

>>7429510
At least condense your posts into a series of screenshots and stop acting like a tourist going
>WHoAoaA LOoK At ThIss WOW
Most people here have likely played the mod so just pointing out shit without prompting a topic is pretty shitposty

inb4 you reply with "WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429527
It should be done in the style of the Quake 2 slav and only exploratory in that way if it's something super obscure most haven't played here. Although Quake 2 slav would post a lot sometimes his posts were also done in an unobnoxious and easy to tune out way if you weren't interested.

While I can't say these style of posts don't belong, they DO cause the post counts to go up significantly causing threads to hit bump limit faster. Not a huge deal but I would say if we got more than a few people doing it all the time the threads would just turn into screenshot let's plays with unrelated conversation in between.

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At ThIss WOW

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At ThIss WOW

>>7429527

very joyous and triumphant music in this level, right after a text scrawl implying I'm some sort of great undoer to some pridebound entity

>>7429527
I'm just replying to your post with something other what the other anons are repeating to aggravate you.
Hope your evening's going good. The rest of you boys can look at this. The webm size limit sucks ass.

>>>/wsg/3798842

>>7429527
yeah that's right faggot 5+ people shitposted at you and none of them were me, here's another screenshot of me playing doom

look at the cool lighting effects from the fireball casting on the gun model

>>7429450
It's a sweet kind of pain

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429584
dat triple

>>7429518
That's nice, Ken.

>>7429574
Kiddies will be kiddies.

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429527
>WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429450
>Babel
wut dis?
>AA
an w0t dat b??

>>7429603
>REKKR? More like SHREKKR, does it even have layers like an onion, bro? I don't think so, fuck off outta my swamp and drink my knob while you're at it, Donkey!

>>7429579
You don't know how >inb4 works, do you?

>>7429574
are you ding this for all the weapon sets?

>>7429609
AA I don't know, but Babel is a gameplay mod with the aim of
>What can be added to Doom that makes the game more dynamic without detracting from the core gameplay experience?
It's among the best mods for Doom out there.
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

>>7429527
>WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss CACOASSHOLE WOW

>>7429625
AA is ancient aliens

>>7428952
THAT'S BLOOD, BABY!

>>7429620
Yep, at least for the idle frames, a few attack frames like the bow and candle of the past linked set are getting brightmaps, otherwise I'm just sticking with fullbright on attack frames, cus I think putting brightmaps on everything would drive me fucking crazy.

>>7429618
Yes, you say inb4 as some kind of gay shield and then everyone shits on you and does it anyway, as they should.

Cope, 7+ people shitposted at you

look at this pretty water

>>7429584
>that bullet spread
wut mod

>>7429640
That's Project Babel

>>7429636
That's fucking gorgeous work

>>7429640
literally in the posts above you

>>7429646
And here's the red fire arrow. This all my first crack at brightmaps so I went a little nuts with it.

>>7429653
Pretty perfect
Brightmaps for Doom are pretty amazing in general

>>7429632
This pain... It's exquisite.

>>7429636
>>7429574
Kegan this looks fucking awesome dude

>>7429574
lol wut why are you defending some faggot mad that somebody is posting Doom screenshots?

>>7429518
>Ken made a 3D engine with fully destructible environment a decade before Minecraft came out, something "muh Based Carmack" could only dream about and look on enviously.
What? What game?

And where did voxels really go? Who talks about voxels any more?

>>7429685
Don't fucking question him, when you make as much content as he has you can post any way you like

>>7429638
what are you playing this on, an xbox 360? why are your colors so washed out you brown and bloom bitch.

>>7429693
suck his dick some more, huh? that dude was just posting his run through that wad and weirdo over there pitched a bitch.

>>7429694
What weapon mod is that?

>>7429636
very cool

>>7429696
Getting pretty defensive over here.
Make better posts and you won't get advice on how to improve your posts.

>>7429702
final doomer

>>7429704
naw that isn't me, and I already know about kegan. just surprised he bothered defending someone being an utter faggot. look at his post dude: >>7429527

>>7429689
The latest Blood steam port or whatever it is has assloads of voxels and I love it.

>>7429696
The guy who you replied to that made the /wsg/ post is Combined_Kegan, maker of GMOTA and Combined Arms. He wasn't really even taking a hard stance on it either way and as I said, when you've put in the work he has I don't give a fuck how he posts. You're the only one here sperging out.

>>7429713
Fresh Supply? You love that huh?

And I meant where did it go as a tech? That anon is claiming Ken is better than Carmack because of voxels, can you name anything major they were responsible for besides enhancing old games?

>>7429717
he's about to finish dude! keep sucking!

>>7429710
Not gonna lie, he has a point. Seems like you're playing damage control.

>>7429710
im guessing he knows what its like to get memed to shit. look at kustam. but otherwise its weird to treat that dude as a god that shouldn't be questioned tho

>>7429727
bingo. someone who gets what I'm saying.
>>7429725
faggot

Thoughts on MAP27: Monster Condo?

>>7429727
>>7429729
No one said he was a god but your posts carry far less weight than his simply by virtue of his contributions to the community. You're freaking about him simply telling the guy to have a good night. You're mad because he didn't dogpile on someone like you wanted.

>>7429752
he finished bro, good job.

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429685
I ain't defending him. I just wanted to do a combo breaker.

>>7429723
Look I just think voxels are neat and I'm glad I can play a decent source port of Blood that doesn't have fucked up aiming or weird graphic glitches, or expects me to run DOSbox or some shit.

>>7429527
WHoAoaA LOoK At Thiss WOW

>>7429776
Does custom music work for it or no?

>>7429752
That's a pretty poor mindset anon. Someone could make a lot of mod content and still be a complete fucking idiot or an asshole.

>>7429738
I rate it two computer area maps of five.

>>7429727
>look at kustam
Wait, what does that mean? Are we talking about the dick jokes with the staff or that episode with everyone seeing a face in the older pistol designs?

>>7429792
But he isn't, if he was he would already have been run off a long time ago. This is a retro FPS general so yes, even if someone was an asshole or idiot if they had prolifically greated consistently high quality stuff for a retro FPS hen his posts would have more weight, its /doom/ ffs. He's been here since the beginning in 2013. So stop being a fucking faggot.

>>7429785
You can choose between the midi or CDrom music, but I don't know about custom music. You can probably just replace the music files.

>>7426903
>>7427260
Yeah, I think I got the idea. Keeping player at the door before taking out monsters seems to make things really boring really fast.
And it's even more annoying when the door is automatically closing few times during the process. Fixed few rooms like this.
https://anonymousfiles.io/2xkUULst/

>>7429809
Well see there you go, you just replied to the guy you're talking about. My posts shouldn't carry anymore weight than anyone else's

>>7429752
>your posts carry far less weight than his simply by virtue of his contributions to the community
way to completely miss the point of anonymous posting FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7429816
I replied because you replied to me you fucking dipshit
>>7429817
It's pretty easy to spot the guy posting new unreleased WIP content for a very popular mod in the Doom community. Don't talk to me about imageboards or anonymity, I've been on on the site since 2007.

>>7429820
imagine calling the guy you were defending a faggot lol!

>>7429820
i've been on the site since 97, kid. bow down and drink my knob.

>>7429813
I should've mentioned I was referring to custom music for mods, I don't think you can get them working for Fresh Supply so you'd miss out on things like Death Wish's and 500ml's awesome soundtracks.

>>7429820
No I mean I'm Kegan, and look at how you're acting. I stand by what I said: No one's posts should carry greater weight just because they make stuff.
This is really awkward.

HaaaH

>>7429795
>Plutonia map28 also has two of them
>And they're next to each other

>>7429839

very cool night sky

>>7429089
Astral cacoasshole can suck a fat one. The attack isn't bad but the fucking spazzing out afterwards makes him unpredictable.

> LaterForeverV1.wad (LunchLunch)
Looks great and made me laught hysterically in the archvile room. However I couldn't beat that room in more than half an hour of savescumming.
Gonna try again later. Overall I love the insane drive and fun, but also wish I could beat it.

> A2ROB - Code Suppression
Imo, the most heavy industrial aesthetics so far, gives some corrosive depressive vibes reminiscent of Quake 1.
Gameplay feels pretty balanced and this one I could definitely complete without saving in one run if I try hard enough.
Fighting cyberdemons seems little bit boring though, because I couldn't think of any way other than safely strafing round the corner for long enough until it's dead.

PS:
Also I'd like to notice so far I haven't seen a single map for HFFM that looked amateurish.
All look very professional and skillful, and some are among the most detailed maps I ever seen.

>>7429548
what

>>7429890
I see you're also playing this as per anon's recommendation.

>>7429609
Having a blast going through this one right now.

>>7429890
whats dis?

>>7429767
Caco smokes weed and pain elemental likes amphetamines

>>7429935
do they like doing podcasts as well

>>7429920
it's nice

>>7429820
>I've been on on the site since 2007.
Dont care, youre still wrong.
Thats exactly the thing about anonymity. Your personal identity does not fucking matter to your argument.

>>7430003
Whatever you say, newfag.

>>7429252
>>7429269
The really cool part about the touhou mod is that you as the player are totally antithetical to how the fairies behave and how the player character operates in the actual touhou games. You're a big tough tanky badass that can eat danmaku bullets for breakfast. I think the average bullet does like 5% damage armored. On top of that the Doom weaponry is just way more effective overall than the almost random bullet sprays generic fairies and bosses perform. It's a really nice contrast between the two games.

>>7429932
touhou doom

>>7426919
>high retard figure

You can skip parts of levels with jumping boots in Blood too, they shouldn't have let you carry this over

>>7430109
>Play Blood
>Jump on a ledge
>Play level backwards without even realizing

>>7430220
I have done this to too many games attempting to find secrets, then when I go and talk about how the level his short or broken, I get a bunch of confused replies of "how did you miss x"

>>7430220
I know that feel.

guys

i'm bad at doom

wat do

>>7430282
play more doom

>>7430282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

Watch this, become stronger.

>>7430287
Kino

>>7430287
>pro strats they don't want u to know about
>turns off texture filtering
Kek.

>>7429527
For what it's worth, this post was completely right

>>7429904
>However I couldn't beat that room in more than half an hour of savescumming.
I didn't have tons of trouble with the room when playtesting but going back to it tonight, I keep dying there too. I may have to replace a couple archies, idk yet. There's one strategy that works pretty consistently but I don't like the idea that it's the only option.
>Fighting cyberdemons seems little bit boring though, because I couldn't think of any way other than safely strafing round the corner for long enough until it's dead
Find the secret BFG. Two-shotting them is difficult in the cramped spaces but you can do enough damage that it's quick to finish them off with the SSG.

Are Shadow Warrior expansions worth playing?

>>7430282
>i'm bad at doom
If you mean the iwads, just keep at it. They're generally very fair, and once you get the hang of the controls and mechanics, will no longer give you too much trouble.

>>7430338
Yeah, haven't played WD but TD was really fun. It has quite few memorable maps

>Stock textures are nowhere to be found in Eviternity
>Except for default GRNROCK on the screen border, and sides of the status bar on widescreen modes
Kinda sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

>>7430359
There are stock textures all over the place alongside otex what are you talking about?

>>7426919
>using nice enemies
>retro mods
Where are my retro Doom mods? Doom isn't retro enough. I need it to be... older.
Somebody dress the whole game down!

>>7430390
Where? I haven't seen any?

So, I have never played Duke it out in DC and I think its a better expansion than Life's a Beach. Am I in the minatory? Life's a Beach is unique (and has some cool levels), but the thing has so many "gotcha "moments. Duke it out in D.C. has such sprawling levels (maybe too big a times..), I just can't help but admire it.

>>7430445
In fact, just opened a few eviternity maps in UDB, and none of them had any of the stock textures used, outside of the occasional couple that are in inaccessible areas that the player cannot see without noclipping into them.

wtf is wrong with stock textures you pseuds?

>>7430518
Nothing is wrong with stock textures. I just thought it was odd in a wad like Eviternity, which exclusively uses new textures in the levels, to keep the stock screen border texture.

>>7430518
>pseuds
too ADHD for words

>>7429510
Based.

Okay, I think that's all the bullshit added. Time for playtesting and monster edits tomorrow.

>>>/wsg/3799286

>>7430680
>That tranq gun from Deus Ex ready sound
Nice.

>>7430682
I pretty much exclusively used sounds from Deus Ex and the Unreal games for that set. I like limiting myself to a few games for sounds sources, gives it a theme.
Also the rocket launcher in that set doesn't alert monsters because the GEP gun takedown is the most silent way to eliminate Manderly

>>7430687
UNTACO?

>>7430691
No, Savage.

>>7429467
yeah, it's a bit of a thinker.

>>7430680
Is this your gun humming, or it's Quake OST playing?