/vr/ - Retro Games

III is probably the best one but you'll need to be patient with it at the start. Avoid 5 at all costs.

>>740990
5 isn't really "avoid at all costs", just don't expect it to be anything like the previous BOF games. It's completely different in all aspects, but it's not a bad game.

It's like DmC. Compared to Devil May Cry, it's fucking trash. On its own, it's a solid action game.

>>740995
Capcom made both of them to kill their respective series.

>>740990
>Avoid 5 at all costs.
Wow, eat a fucking dick. Was the serious dungeon crawling too hardcore for you? Or were there not enough furry characters for you to masturbate?

V isn't retro, but since this fuckwad went and shat over it, I will have to fix this here and now. BoFV is a strange game, but it's a great one. It's gloomy, it's lonely, it's depressing, it's terribly punishing.

It's a full-scale JRPG that unlocks new content if you get completely stuck and choose to restart after a game over, and you need a one-time, unpurchasable items to save. In a dongeon crawler/JRPG. Yes, it's that kind of "hardcore", the REAL kind. This >>740990 sad shit just wasn't up to par.

>>741000
You know what was better than BOF5? Bioshock Infinite. 5 isn't artistic at all.

>>741006
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>741007
Go play a real RPG like FFX2

>>741008
Faggot. Everyone knows Lunar is the best RPG series of all time.

>>741017
I found Lunar games to be generic and dull. Not simple, endearing and fun, but off-puttingly stupid.

OP here: So... skip to III?

>>741026
Yes. Only austistics like 5. It was a non BOF game that Crapcom put the BOF label on

>>741036

Is 3 the one on PS that has great fishing? I miss playing that

>>741036

I'm not really concerned with V. Just wanted to know if I should play I/II before playing III and IV.

>>741026

Play III, it's a fantastic old-school JRPG.

Don't play 5 if you don't want to play a very intriguing dungeon crawler with no other connection to the series but the name.

Also, worst thread on /vr/ at the moment, which is unfortunate because BoF is a fantastic series.

>>741046
Evolution is a good dungeon crawler but you're too casual for that

OP here: Just wanted to know whether or not I should skip I and II, and maybe give BoF fans a place to talk about the series. Look at what you've done to my thread :(

>>741053

despite a sub-par translation, 2 was a great game. you might want to browse a guide, as there are missable thingsw that make a huge impact ( shamans. just find a short shaman guide so you don't spoil anything else) one was pretty sweet, but i didn't enjoy it as much as 2. personally, i'd play them in this order--- 2,3,1,4. 3 was fucking EXCELLENT, it's fishing was one of my favorite sidequests ever. also, pic related, it's bof2

Play 2 with the re-translation patch.
Then 3 and 4.

Personally i'd say 4 has held up the best. But then I like its setting, aesthetics (pseudo-imperial chinese stuff) and slight mysticism and didn't really fall for BOF3's "growing up" story even if the characters were pretty good.

>>741008
>Go play a real RPG like FFX2
Go play Mana Khemia. Without crying.

>>741053
You can skip 1 or play the easier/less grindy Gameboy Advance version.
It's not bad but it's nothing really great either.

>>741053
Play the SNES version of 2 with this patch, it completely retranslates the game. BOF2 had, without a doubt, one of the worst translations ever.
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1384/

Play 3, play 4. Both are brilliant. 3 takes a while to get going however.

5 is worth a try.

>>741063

>>741063
>>741065
>>741070
>>741074

Thanks for the real answers guys. I'll check out the retranslation of the second game. Maybe the GBA version of BoF1 too.

PLAY THEM ALL.

>>741079

God fucking dammit. When did /vr/ began to turn into /v/?
Can't we have a decent discussion like we used to have in the beginning of this board?
Every fucking thread...

>>741085

>>741086
it's getting better dudebro, calm yourself.

>>741086
Autism

>>741090

>>741089
Personally, I like BoF2 Nina the best, but I prefer BoF1 Ryu. What's your preference?

When I first played the game back when I was young, I didn't know there was a default name that you selected by not entering a name, so I named Ryu "Jack" to fill the blank. Since then, "Jack" has been the main character of every BoF game I've played. To name him something else, even Ryu, feels wrong somehow.

>>741020
But Working Design's translation made it a wonderful RPG! BOF scripts are so bland...

>>741108
looks wise, both fr4om 3. how much i liked them and used them in party, 2 and 2. i'd always power food the shit out of nina to make her retard strong, haha

>>741108
Be honest, it was the mullet and boomerangs that did it in for you, wasn't it?

Me, I'm partial to BoF 3 "Adult" Ryu. I can't explain it.

Why does Capcom hate this series?

>>741108
Not him, but BOF1 Ryu is also my favorite design-wise. Nina? Dragon Quarter.

>>741125
Nah, if anything it was the cape, alongside a somewhat broken dragon system. But mostly the cape.

BoF3 Ryu is still pretty badass, though, and has the best dragon system by far.

>>741147
...still weirds me out how they used they used the other Nina design for that last scene.

>>741147

The PS1 games have some of the best art on the system, period. Simply amazing work.

>>741125

BoFIII Ryu has one of the most practical looking designs in history of JRPG, although more low key design wasn't that rare back in the 90's. These days that kind of designs can be found maybe in some Atlus games, and that is about it.

>>741226

This is one of the things I appreciated the most in Breath of Fire before 5. The aesthetic is almost generic western high-fantasy, but with just enough japanese quirkiness to make it stand out.

BoF II had the best Nina and cat thing

Best games: 3>2>4>5=1
Best Ryu: 3>2>1>4>5
Best Nina: 2>1>4>5>3

http://operationrainfall.com/we-desire-breath-of-fire-june-1/

I'm not sure about this...I can already imagine.
>The new Breath of Fire VI takes place in a high-school. Follow the adventures of Ryu-kun, 16, his loser wingman (eh), and 6 beautiful girls who fulffil a stereotype each as they deal with the hardships of school life and try to defeat Myria-chan with the power of friendship! Preorder includes bikini and moe costumes DLC.

>>741260
Yeah no matter how much I love Breath of Fire I would rather it stay dead then have modern Capcom's grubby hands take a shot at a new one.

This manga, man...

>gba version
>saturated colors
>shit sound
>no fan retranslation
absolutelydisgusting.jpg

>>741074
>Start up the retranslation just now.
>Vocalized theme music.

3 is lovely. I watched my friend play through 4, and struggle through 5.

Favourite Dragon combo from 3, anyone? I liked the Fusions with party members, the Wildfire and the Tiamat.

I played them in order, and I am partial to 2 myself, especially after the re-translation patch. 1 is decent, but pretty basic and is essentially the building block for the series. 3 was good, though I can't help but feel like it gets the 'FFVII' treatment to an extent. IMO 4, iffy translation aside, was better. Didn't play 5.

>>741830

Fuck my life, I never got to a save point, saved state, fucking emulator crashes every time I try to load the state. God dammit SNES9x.

>>741941

>>741602
Yeah, I had the GBA port and when I saw the SNES version on Youtube it looked so nicer my first thought was "is this BoFIII?"

So, how long does BoF3 take to pick up? I just got done with the Wyndia Catacombs and I've had to restart from earlier saves twice because FUCK this game doesn't explain much.

The first time was to go back to just before Rei and Teepo leave so I could get the coin to go fishing to get a better weapon. The second time I missed the extra chunk of the catacombs and had no way to go back to grab dat sweet Nina equipment.

Taken to playing it with a guide at this point. Love the battle system where the locale turns in to the arena, but I miss the decidedly japanese-feel of IV.

Also I only have fond memories of V.

Mostly because I had bought a GameShark around the same time. Forgive me, /vr/.

>>742021
You'll be playing as kid Ryu for a long time, if that's what you're asking.
Probably gets better after Garr joins your party.

>>742039
I just meant, you know, gets interesting. The horse guys whupping my shit is getting old fast, but I do enjoy that Ryu now swings his sword a little more competently.

>>742021
>>742041

>>742021
Once you get to Momo the game starts to pick up and the story gets a lot more fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2X6IYaWI4

>>742041
Yep, after Garr joins you. Then timeskip, Deis sends you on your quest and you're already close to the middle of the game.

>>742046
ETA on Momo arrival?

>>742047
Did you say Deis?

AWW FUCK YEAH DEIS

>>742045
FUCK YOU BAILO AND SMEGMA.

>>742050

>>741947

Thankfully, the fast forward button allowed me to get back to where I was with minimal time wasted.

>>742048
Not him but it's a couple of hours in i'm pretty sure.
BOF4 isn't as slow.

One good thing about the BOF series is that it's not that strictly connected (only 1-2-3 have any real connections and it's still not much more than a curosity in there) so you can play it in any order you want pretty much.

>>740986
>That picture
One of these things is not like the other ones
one of these things is from a shitty game.

>>742121
I played and loved BoF4 already, but that game has a SLOW AS FUCK start until you get Cray back on board (and excluidng the Fou-Lu sections). BoF3 seems to be moderately slow for hours, while BoF4 was snail's pace for a shorter amount of time.

>>742124
You be nice to BoF1, everyone has to start somewhere.

BOF series is amazing.

I honestly thought the original 2 was better than the re-translation patch. I'm not saying it was bad, because it wasn't; you can tell the people who did the re-translation still held love for the game. But damn if there was anything like the lines you get throughout the original during tense sequences.

>the fights with Barubary
>the death cooking competition
>that fucking cathedral scene

BoF2 continues to be my favorite game in the series, and I thought 3 might have been the crowning achievement of the PSX.

>>742039
>>742063

>Finish BoF2 for the first time last night
>Watching cast roll
>Notice this

My favorite moment in video gaming, ever, is from BoF3, when Ryu is lying stabbed and near-dead at the cliffside.

And then you hear the heartbeat. The whole screen pulses. And you realize what's about to happen.

If I ever get my wish, and Studio Ghibli does a BoF-styled movie, I want that sequence done scene-for-scene.

>>742210

>>742210
>>742229

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>>742229
>>742241

>>742213
What scene?

>>742210
>>742229
>>742241
>>742243

>>741225
>Finally get Devil Katt
>Every time I use a Death Ring she lifts he leg like that
It's like she's queefing things to death, goddamn.

Not sure why 2 isn't as loved as 3. I found the fusions to be so much more fun to play with then the masters (which the first time I ever went thru the game I never found more then I think... 3) .
Also I didn't find 3's story as compelling.

>>742349
Sides what other BOF game (Or series for that matter) where the cannon end has the MC marry not just one romantic interest but both?.. at the same time.
BOF 2's Ryu is alpha to the max

>>742349
Whaaaat? 2 is by far my favorite.
I played 3 the one time and I remember almost nothing about it.

The only thing I could recall was my 3-5 days trying to fish a whale. And failing.

>>742450
This image makes me remember this website from the late 90's that focused on Frog and Jean.
Oh, the memories...

>>742270
What version of the game is this? It looks all wrong.

>>742474
Shamanized characters with the retranslation patch.

>>742480
Thank you.

I wish JRPGs these days had a cast as diverse as the Breath of Fire series.
Now it's just Human x6 and most of them even have the same face...

>>742496
>Now it's just Gackt x6

Fixed that

>>742496
Not to mention a lot of them today seem to be phoned-in shovelware for the otaku/weeaboo market.

>>742581
"Everything was Gackt and nothing hurt."

>>742496
Everyone goes full Tesyua Nomura

I love this board so much. 2 is my fav game of all time. IMO its 2>4>3>1>5 I don't dislike 5 at ask, mostly just disappointed it wasn't bof

Fuck yeah Teepo.

>>742669
where'd you find these pics? I check deviant art, pixiv, tumblr, and several boorus for bof art and haven't seen some of these

>>742737
Pixiv. I've been bumping this thread with images since >>741090

Did anyone even use Spar, fused or not? I like the idea of a whip, but outside the fact "it" was only good for walking through forests, I never kept an open slot in my party.

This thread needs more Scias, image-dump-anon.

>>742858
I'm on it.

>>742852
Of course I used it. I only used the characters I liked. So, Katt, Deis and Spar.

>>742905
Did you morph him into the mushroom girl?
Because surely as fuck I did.

I...I better spoil this.

Did Deis die in BOF3 along with Myria?

>>742937

>>742937
Of course.

BOF2's fusion was great. A simple way to get stat boosts and customize your party with an appearance switch included.
I just wish it didn't go away when they reached critical HP. The final dungeon even forces a defuse. And so does the final boss.
They should have added a way to create a "portable fusion machine" or something for the late game.

>>742990
I didn't have that problem on the file I leveled everyone to 99 with all their best gear and auto-battled the final boss lol

I really don't understand the Dragon Quarter hate. No, it isn't Breath of Fire for a lot of reasons, however it is still an amazing RPG, even if it can be Dante Must Die hard.

No fishing was really upsetting, but being able to call it quits on a file in order to get boosts and secrets on your next game was fantastic.

>>743543
It takes away all of the fun stuff in the previous games and replaces it with a dumbed down srpg system. It forces you to replay boring sections to get characterization and story elements that you should have gotten in the first go. Battles still end up being easy and repetitive but now they take longer. All of the characters are negative subversions of their previous appearances. Its fanbase is made up of attention whores who like making the same posts over and over.

Was there anything I missed?

>>743398
Characters still get automatically defused after Ryu has to make the Sacrifice Choice.

And when they're frozen and killed right before the final fight.

So yes. You still have that problem. lol.

Idk, I actually preferred BOF3 more than BOF4 despite that I've never fully completed them (Lost my saves twice, it got annoying.) I loved the dragon synthesizing in BOF3, and it doesn't look like BOF4 has any of that. I think I may have to play the series all over again. I remembered there was some sort of remastered translation of BOF2, anyone know where to get that?

>>741320
wow, where is this from?

>>744147
The freezing doesn't defuse 'em.

>>742869
>>742873
>Scias and Ursula are the same species

>>745025
Pixiv

Dear Diary,
Today, OP, and 85% of the people in this thread, were not faggots. God bless us, each and every one.

>>740995
>It's like DmC. Compared to Devil May Cry, it's fucking trash. On its own, it's a solid action game.
Shut up, DmC was a mess while DQ was just an acquired taste.

>>747478
>Tatsuya Yoshikawa will never work on another Breath of fire game
>Now Tatsuya Yoshikawa will never work on another Devil May Cry game because of DmC

Hey, BOF thread.

The other day I saw some recent game with a BOF2 Nina cameo, but I don't remember which one it was...

I have never played a Breath of Fire game.

I have so many other RPGs I want to play through first that I don't know when I'll get around to it.

>>747569
>Tatsuya Yoshikawa

And we never got Last Ranker.
Such a shame, the game mechanics and story appeared to be very interesting.

>furry shit
get the fuck out whoever is posting those.

>>747602
Yeah, where the hell are my underage girls in skimpy loli outfits crying niisan?

>>747604
not everyone is a pedophile or a furry
shocking I know

>>747592
That MC looks like a manlier, angrier DQ Ryu

>>747602
Man

I am so sorry to have to be the one to tell you this but

You are looking at the wrong fucking game

Might as well go yell at guys making Starfox threads for posting furry shit too

>>740995

First BoF is my third favorite game, is a nice old school rpg, and its pretty short too so maybe you should give it a try.
Now BoF III and IV are just in another level
Dragon God tier plot, characters, soundtrack, and artstyle(at least IV)
Too bad Crapcom fucked up and killed the series

>>747573
Onimusha Soul. Except it's Nina 3.

>>748138
BoF IV was just beautiful.
My only issue was the unnecessary usage of 3D models for certain things. Ugly Playstation 3D feels really out of place next to the great 2D artwork.

>>748149
Dark wings is BOF2 Nina

>>748149
>>748162

It's some weird hybrid. She's got the dark wings a blue costume of BoF2, but the shape of those wings and the head are clearly BoF3.

I'm guessing they just hybridized the two for maximum crossover points.

Anyone have more cool images of my nigga Teepo?

>>748170
Teepo was pretty fucking cool. The one guy who could fight and cast offensive magic. Straight battle mage.

I kept thinking, "Teepo, that style is way too much to handle for such a little kid. But when you grow up you'll be all kinds of badass."

Playing through the second half, I kept waiting to find Teepo, since you reunite with everyone else. I wanted him to join the party so bad.

In the end, it was because of Teepo that I fought Myria. Because even if you didn't fully agree with her logic or methods, I could understand it. If what she said was really true, then she really was the last thing standing in the face of oblivion. I could see where she was coming from.

But as I spoke to my party members that last time, as I considered agreeing on my first playthrough just to see the ending, it was Rei who said to me, "I can't forgive her. I can't agree with what she said, even if it's true. Because if I do, then Teepo died for nothing."

And I knew what I had to do.

>>748201
Holy hell dude, are you me?
The game dropping hints that Teepo could still be around didn't help. When you hear his description in Wyndia and when you reunite with Rei in particular.

I was so disappointed that I really had no choice but to kill him, even the witch-tits Myria gets a mercy option.

>>744147
>And when they're frozen and killed right before the final fight.
Actually, no. They stay fused after that.

>>747246

Sweet god I WANT THAT.

Is it for sale somewhere?

>>748118
Cray is probably the only furry(ish) character I'd sleep with.

>>748160
Agreed on every account, BoFIV is one of the most beautiful games I've ever played, it utilizes PS1's power perfectly. BUT it got some really shitty 3D models for some boss fights/dragon attacks, some nice 2D sprites would be much better.

>>741042
Yeah, and BoF3 is one of my favorite rpg's of all time, in my top 10 if not my top 5.

BoF 3 is still one of the more complex and engaging rpg's on the PS1. Those faeries, side quests, gene hunting, trainers all around the world, etc etc etc.

>>749056
Unfortunately, it's an individual sculpture.
http://chemreac.deviantart.com/art/Katt-Rinpoo-Chuan-142698728
He also has Bleu, and Jean in shamanized form.

>>750984
Shit, he's got love for old school Capcom. Earned my seal of approval with the Captain Commando set.

About to go play BoF3, is there anything missable in this game like sidequests and stuff and does it really add much to the game if there is missables? cause I don't like missing stuff but I also don't like checking a walkthrough every time i progress to make sure I didn't miss a subquest.

>>751354
Mostly items and a master or two.

>>751354
Different guy, similar issue:

Is this one of those horrid games where you should never ever sell anything? Or is there a concise list of items I should never sell floating around somewhere?

>>753993
You can get access to a certain master early if you keep at least 1 of every weapon but it's not necessary and you can sell them afterwards.

>>754072
How good is this master? Like 1 being avoid completely and 10 being you will regret not being his apprentice forever?

>>754093
http://bof.wikia.com/wiki/D'Lonzo

>>754143
Welp, guess I can wait. I cleared out a lot of my inventory to pick up a Claymore early in Windia.

>>754317

So I've played every game in this series other than III. Loved I and II, profoundly disappointed with IV and V. I know III is in the same style as IV (with the whole 2D sprite in 3D environment style that I despise); is it anywhere near as tedious? I'm really kind of on the fence as to whether I should buy...

>>756396
Do it. Its the best in the series

>>756396
If you want to know how the trilogy ends, of course you should play BOF3 (the game is connected with 1 and 2, lots of references and recurring characters).
But, uh...how should I explain this. BOF3 is the same style as 4, yes, but the world and characters "feel" just like the two first games. Does this make any sense?

>>756423
The series isn't near as interconnected as something like Metal Gear, so I'm not worried about continuity or whatever.
I will say that it does need a good plot to keep me going. One of my biggest problems with IV is that I never felt like I was accomplishing anything. It was like BoFII, if clearing Bow's name was the entire game and going from town to town took three times as long. Only thing that kept me going was the parts with Fou-Lu.
If III doesn't do that, I'll be fine, even if the music is just as bland and forgettable as IV.

>>756396
4's pretty coo. it improved a lot of what 3 did (like combining examine with defend so while defending you can learn monster moves.

the later part kinda sucks because it's just drags on and on and on. But overall, pretty good, you should enjoy it.

>>742852
I tried using mushroom Spar but the game kept reverting the fusion all the fucking time, wtf, it's not like it's fun backtracking to the damn shamans over and over.

>>747478
>aquired taste
>restarting is FUN!

>>756510
You know, it wasn't even the restarting or the lack of resemblance to the other games that turned me off to DQ. The game was just boring as shit. Between the bland enemies, the even blander environments, the almost complete lack of a soundtrack outside the battle theme and a pretty barebones plot for the little that I was willing to play, I couldn't find anything slavageable about the game other than the vaguely interesting combat.

>>756510
You know, it wasn't even the restarting or the lack of resemblance to the other games that turned me off to DQ. The game was just boring as shit. Between the bland enemies, the even blander environments, the almost complete lack of a soundtrack outside the battle theme and a pretty barebones plot for the little that I was willing to play, I couldn't find anything salvageable about the game other than the vaguely interesting combat.

>>756542
The better you play, the better the plot gets when you restart.

I suggest doing a run with a gameshark to obliterate it your first time through, and get your D-ratio up to like 1/16 at least (1/4 if you can for bragging rights) and you'll unlock most of the extras that flesh out the plot.

But you sound pretty unsavable, anyways. So do whatever, I guess.

>>756442
III has the horrible "I'm not telling you shit" syndrome, but not so much with its story as with its environments. It's incredibly easy to miss somewhat important stuff and good equipment. Play with a guide. The story feels pretty down to earth so far, but my game clock was left running and I fucked up all sense of proper time with it. I'm at the arena, and the fucking horses are annoying, but realistically persistent.

>>742946
Honestly? No idea because the only things that are ever confirmed about the series is that 3 is set sometime after 1 due to the mural and that 2 is also set after 1 with the Nina1 cameo. That's it. They've never released any other information stating what order the games go in. Capcom doesn't care about the series lore.

>>741086
its prolly summerfags thinking this is /v/jr.

anyway, bof1 gba and bof2 retranslation snes are the best versions? im going to play them after i finish this ff2 dawn of souls bullshit

>>742213

Uhhh, isn't that BoF2? I remember a scene where ... uuhh ... i'll just test out spoiler tags here and spoiler it in the next post. Don't want to ruin it for someone who still wants to play BoF2.

test

>>742213
>>759651

[continued]

Isn't that the scene at the end of BoF2 where the last Boss hurts you, transforms all your buddies in crystals and shatters (kills) them and you get really angry and rush to him to fight him alone?

>>759651
>>759658
No, I believe he's talking about that scene where one of the horse bros is taking a piss. And you run into them solo with Ryu, they defeat you, and stick a sword on Ryu's back. And then he transforms into a dragon, and gets kidnapped.

Also, I really like that scene in BOF2, especially the pic related part.

>>759750

I think i remember. It's kid Ryu right?

Fuck Yuna, fuck him with a rusty rake.

>>759908
Yeah. That scene is burned in my memory because of how awkwardly the sword moves.

>>741145
I remember fapping to this picture when I was younger in the BoF instruction manual.