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7395390 No.7395390 [Reply] [Original]

Fixed shot is by far the superior mode.

>> No.7395447
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>>7395390
Fixed with homing + fire is the best combination in the game. Laser + fire is fun too and I use it for the shmup level.

>> No.7395451

>>7395447
Cuphead doesn't have half of those mechanics

why

>> No.7395462

>>7395447
those are like the only two viable weapons on higher difficulty levels

>> No.7395469

>>7395451
Zoomers gonna zoom, boomers gonna boom, coomers gonna coom. It's the circle of life.

>> No.7395514

I agree, when I was younger I thought free was better but fixed is much better.

The only thing I would say is that free is probably better on very low difficulties because lightning + homing is more suited for it and it trivializes the game.

However when you are on higher difficulties I think the best weapon is lightning + fire, which fixed is much better at using. Another good contender is fire + homing.

>> No.7395626
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Contra: Hard Corps has the ability to switch between "fixed shot" and "free shot" by pressing the "a" button.

>> No.7395713

>>7395447
Homing + Laser in two players
Just walk and enjoy

>> No.7395894

>>7395451
Cuphead does have those mechanics, though. Not sure what you're talking about.
In Cuphead you can hold a button to stay fixed to a location while shooting.

>> No.7396784

>>7395390
Anyone whose delved into Insane and even Hard Mode know this. Though on Hard, Free Shot and Lightning+Fire can still work since that combo does so much damage.

>> No.7396795

>>7395626
>Contra
It's also a better game in every way

>> No.7396841

>>7395626
>toggle
>not just holding a shoulder button own
oooh looks like Alien Wars is objectively superior again

>> No.7397093

>>7395447
>>7395447
tha snake, hell yeah

>> No.7397198

Oh yeah
Free sounds awesome but then you're just running into enemies

>> No.7397221

>>7395447
Free with homing + fire is better than that, and yes, I mean unironically. Git fucking gud.

>> No.7397231

>>7395514
Free is also better with lightning + fire. Fixed mode is literally handicap mode.

>> No.7397249

>But I want to move while shooting! Fixed doesn't allow that.
LMAO just jump, dude.

>> No.7397818

>>7396841
>>>7395626 (You)
>>toggle
>>not just holding a shoulder button own
>oooh looks like Alien Wars is objectively superior again


The A button only toggles fixed shot, if you have a 6 button game pad. With a three button gamepad, the "A" button cycles through the weapons, while holding B (fire)+A(weapon select) toggles the fixed shot.

>> No.7397825

>>7395390
I think fixed creates more interesting gameplay too. I never liked Contra, it feels kinda weightless.

>> No.7397845
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>>7396841
>oooh looks like Alien Wars is objectively superior again

>> No.7397869

>>7397845
That happens with fixed shot in Hard Corps as well.

>> No.7397890

>>7397869
>That happens with fixed shot in Hard Corps as well


I did intentionally die at the end of the webm to keep it under 20 seconds. But I did forget that that I could not duck while in fixed shot mode. It is less of an issue in Contra III, as all you have to do is let go of the shoulder button to re-position the character. But in Hard Corps, it can be a pain because of the toggle. A little extra annoying with a 3 button pad. I also messed up not getting the double spread guns.It has been a while since I have legit played Contra III.

>> No.7397924

>>7395451
NES Contra is a better run and gun than Cuphead.

>> No.7397949

>>7397924
NES Contra is a better run and gun than nearly everything

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>>7397949
Cupheads real problem was how they caved in to SJW's and left out old timey Africans.

>> No.7398078
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>>7397845

Why is a person bad at Contra 3 on normal

>> No.7398471

>>7397890
being able to shoot down without jumping is a good thing

>> No.7398607

>>7397970
I doubt they were planning to do so in the first place.

>> No.7398634
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>free shot is more powerful but also wastes more ammo

>> No.7398819

>>7398634
This game is impossible

>> No.7398825

>>7398819
No it's definitely not. I beat it on Supereasy, and I'm terrible at shooters.

>> No.7398837

>>7395390
It's Run AND Gun, not Run OR Gun. Free Shot all the way.

>> No.7398905

>>7395626
The 3DS version of Gunstar had this patched in as well, it's kinda fun to mess with

>> No.7398932

>>7395390
eh they’re both ok

>> No.7398936

>>7398825
>Supereasy
Did you change your diapie afterwards?

>> No.7398961

>>7398905
>The 3DS version of Gunstar had this patched in as well, it's kinda fun to mess with
yeah the thing about that is

>it's 'cheating' because it's not in the original
>and yet it really should have been

what do

>> No.7398974

>>7397924
Cuphead isn't very good in general. The animation is good, but at the same time the gameplay is stiff and lacks rewarding feedback because animating anything would take ages.
There is a reason why NES keyframe heavy animation works so well in games.

>> No.7398992

>>7398974
GSH, C:HC, etc also have some obvious problems, neckbeards want to pick on Cuphead for being 'overrated' which perhaps it is but it's still a really a really good game

>> No.7399013

>>7398961
Stop caring about what strangers on the internet think and play the way that's most fun to you, no matter what. That's what do.
3DS Gunstar is worth a spin anyway because the 3D is absolutely gorgeous. All of the M2 3D Classics are great but they really went all out for this one.

>> No.7400106

>>7395390
The board game stage ruins this game.

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>>7400106
I have to agree, it's a fucking blight on an otherwise amazing game.

>> No.7400206

>>7400106
>>7400181
I don't know why people complain about that but think the stage design is otherwise ok

anything is an improvement over random spawns flooding into an empty box and spraying the screen with bullets for you to cancel

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>>7400106
>>7400181
>>7400206
I've beaten this game more times than I can count and the dislike of that stage is so over blown. Really the only annoying part of it is the start over panel and the fact that the dice are RNG, most of the fights in there are pretty fun especially Curry and Rice, with one only being annoying which is Minion Soldier but you can just cheese him with the slide move.
The only people who should really complain about the level is speed runners since the section is a huge run killer due to the RNG.

>> No.7400572

>>7398634
I only used Free Shot in a few instances like Medusa Force, when I saw some video using it the whole run and tried replicating it I couldn't believe how fast my weapons were melting away

>> No.7402109

>>7395390
Fixed is for homing-fire, it's really fucking annoying to play that way with homing-laser and some other combos.

Decide on your ideal weapon type for your playthrough before you choose your shooting mode.

>> No.7402139

>>7400181
The outer space shmup level and the level that follows after the initial 4 aren't very good either.

>> No.7402293

>>7395390
When are you going to accept your force + fire overlord?
The damage is sooooo good. Unfortunately I think it's the least impressive looking weapon.

>> No.7402635

>>7402139
I like the shmup level personally but I can agree on Stage 5 being pretty weak.

>> No.7402728

>>7400537
it's one of the coolest and most memorable parts of the game for me, weird that people get so mad about it

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>>7402728
The fact cuphead made a whole level that was an homage to it speaks volumes to it's memorability. Though it guess it's up for debate if it's due to it's perceived difficulty or not.

>> No.7403395

>>7400537
>Really the only annoying part of it is the start over panel and the fact that the dice are RNG
The dice are not RNG they are real dice.

>> No.7403441
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>>7403395
>they are real dice.
Semantics aside my main point is that they can be the only really annoying part of the level but even then it's variable if luck is in your favor.

>> No.7403454

>>7395626
Are you a fucking furry character in this?

>> No.7404489
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>>7403454
>>>7395626 (You)
>Are you a fucking furry character in this?

One of the character's is.

>> No.7404827

>>7400106
stage 5 with not bison is the worst because of how monotonous it is.

>> No.7404837

>>7400537
curry and rice is actually pretty dull once you realize all you need to do is jump attack him while he's flailing his arms around. most of the dice maze bosses including black himself aren't that exciting either since you hardly need to move.

>> No.7404847

>>7403283
cuphead actually did the dice thing better because you can control which number you get and the bosses leading up to king dice are far more engaging.

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>>7404837
Yeah you can definitely cheese most of the bosses in there even the ones that aren't complete pushovers. Timeron and Melon Bread are pretty much jokes but there's some other ones in there I do think are really fun like Super Gondala and Vortex Base. It depends on your load out really, I play with mostly Free Shot and Lighting+Fire so I'm usually pretty active and mobile but Fire+Chaser and Lightning+Chaser can trivialize the fights even on Hard and especially on Normal.
Also have you ever seen Curry and Rice in Gunstar Super Heroes he's horrifying.
>>7404847
I agree. But I would say some of the bosses in the palace are some of the weakest in the game similar to how it is in GSH.

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Damn I hadn't played the game in some years and had completely forgot about the outer space shmup segment.