/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/ RELEASED
UPDATED TO VERSION 2.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

=== NEWS ===
[2-4]Upscale Anon Releases faithful 2x upscaled textures of Quake 2 Oblivion
https://mega.nz/file/MQMADBbJ#Rqnj02hFjwSmyv4UUaRqwu55fqs2eRH3f9iTDhKG1Ck

[2-3] Wolfenstein themed Doom II mod Todesfaust released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/todesfaust-a-wolfenstein-story/downloads/todesfaust-a-wolfenstein-story

[2-2] 500 Milliliters of /vr/ updated to version 2, multiple bug fixes on map 2 and an alternate midi track
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

[2-1] John Romero confirms no new unreleased Doom content due to objections by iD/Bethesda
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119510-sad-news-on-new-unreleased-conntent/

[2-1] Benzo compilated Quake 2 AI bots for DM use, skin friendly
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/benzo-crazy-bot-pack

[2-1] Community project 500 Millileters of /vr/ released
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta

[2-1] HAPPY BIRTHDAY iD SOFTWARE! iD turns 30 years old

[1-30] New version of Odamex is coming soon
https://twitter.com/Odamex/status/1355592601844523011

[1-30] Mansion got updated to 1.1
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion/devlog/217342/mayhem-mansion-11-at-last

[1-29] JMAA posts demo of 32-map megawad on /doom/
https://jmaa.tv/mindprison-project

[1-28] TrenchBroom 2021.1-RC2 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2021.1-RC2

[1-28] Quake SM211 released
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62012

[1-27] Eternity Engine 4.02.00 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119425-eternity-engine-40200-forseti/

[1-27] MIDI pack for the Master Levels for Doom II has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118804-master-levels-for-doom-ii-25th-anniversary-midi-pack/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Thanks anti-semite chuds for getting the last thread deleted

>>7385801

I want Doom 1 levels updated into Doom 2 with its wider monster selection, higher enemy count and super shotgun. Does this exist?

Any mods that look good on the "build" lighting setting in GZDoom? Can't see a thing indoors on conventionally lit Doom maps.

The fuck?

Do I really have to get all the shit together again?

https://anonymousfiles.io/YzcTAAKM/
NMN1+2 texture pack link, reply here with texture requests, I'll get it done when I can. Currently mapping out a proof of concept with the pack, hopefully it's hard fast and faggy enough.

>>7385805
yes, there's a randomizer wad that adds more shit into it. Forgot the name though.

>>7385805
The Playstation version of Doom does add some Doom 2 monsters here and there on UV, a Pain Elemental here on there, usually hidden in a secret area, then a Revenant here or there, but not many, and of course' there's no Arch-Vile, and you can only get the Super Shotgun on a secret level right before the last E4 level, which ruins much of the fun of that.

I'm not sure, but I think someone may have made a ZScript mod which adds the Doom 2 monsters into the Doom 1 levels.

>>7385804
Don't you mean DSBRSSIT?

>>7385813
You WILL delete this image.

Apparently, you cannot place multiple different Player 1 Starts and tag them for each difficulty, because they'll all spawn as VooDoo dolls in any difficulty.

Are Crispy Heretic/Hexen/Strife share the same crispiness options that Crispy Doom have? I feel like they either don't or i am retarded for not finding a way to properly compile the binaries.

>>7385805
Yes.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64953
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65201

Alright, getting some HARD work done.

>>7385749
This kills the wheelchair-11

ALRIGHT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN. SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S THE TIME TO SHOW US.

>>7385813
Whats inside the bowl??

>>7386018
I made one of my shotguns better.

>>>/wsg/3782610

>>7386018

>>7386043
yay you're alive

https://anonymousfiles.io/KkpEpRPA/

It's done. One hard fast faggot map with NMN3 hopefully working fine. Play this and tell me if it sucks shit or not, if you hate the level structure, aesthetics, monster placement, etc; or if you think it'd be worth more to focus on a different style of gameplay, if it's not hard, fast or faggy enough. Obviously we're all bringing something different to the table, but the spirit should be there.
Bear in mind I made it in less than 24 hours and beat it in sub 3 minutes.

>>7385991
That's some good use of the texture set. I especially like the city sidewalks you made using the gray concrete tiles
>>7386018
Currently getting some HARD mapping done myself

>>7386029
No flame effect upon the enemies?

>>7386043
Ryona mod?

>>7386081
Not hard or faggy enough. Plutonia throws two archviles at you in the first map, and 12 chaingunners.

>>7386081
Like >>7386105 said, not that hard. I think giving us the SSG is too merciful, so consider replacing that. I did like the first revenant fight and the teleporting revenants upon collecting the SSG, and the level itself looked pretty good

>>7386043
>why are you hitting yourself? stop hitting yourself!

>>7386043
Are those your hands?

>>7386043
huh

Any suggestions how to complete Ram Ranch in 500ml? Got the key, cleared attic (the place where portal leads to). I have all the kills on the level. Still no idea what to do next. Tried to use car, doesn't work. Do I have some BuildGDX bug or just not trying hard enough?

>>7385795
tried to play doom cooperative yesterday but people only want to play newschool garbage

>>7386043
HOW are you hitting yourself anon?

>>7386329
Crippling addiction to voodoo dolls

>>7386018
Workin on my first map for Doom 2. It's fun and Slade editor is actually much better than I expected.

Does Serious Sam have any good custom content?

>>7386018
I was making a speedmap this week (I took a break, still have 3 hours left). It was supposed to be based on Perfect Hatred, but I don't remember what Perfect Hatred is like and can't quite bother to play it.

Who the fuck nuked the previous thread?

Man I really like Naku-Naru but the way the weapons are angled/offset really messes with my perception. I wish they were more centred/pointed towards the centre.

>>7385975
no but the russian doom ports are more up to date

mega.nz/folder/BGBH1aAS#hoGkVmoFMqdNJO3eWKoygA

>>7386018

>>7386514

Hey, need a hand finding an old wad I played a long time ago please. Had a city map being invaded by waves of demons, you had a red button radio kind of item that teleported in ai reinforcements. I think one of the guns was an autogun from 40K, I also remember the AI having strange audio lines when they took damage.

>>7386276
At the start of the level there’s a quick text saying “I need gas and tools”; there’s gasoline in the top of the barn, and one of them doggos in the attic should have dropped some tools/toolbox on death.

>>7386402
Target is based

>>7386020
Same that has in the ass. "tacks a lot of tacks"

>>7385795
Did you forget to update OP? Why does it link to the thread before last? Where is last thread with the shitstorm about BJ Blazkowicz being half Jewish?

>>7386526
An inspired plot

>>7386017
I refuse to believe it even if its true :-\

>>7386043
Lol those gloves.

>>7386518
Vanilla Q1 or modded?

>>7386402
Seems epic but crashes fucking constantly

>>7386557

>>7386561
Runs perfect on my win7 machine.

>>7385796
Plutonia Revisited 2 announced. Is an open community project
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119628-plutonia-revisited-community-project-2-boom-compatible/

>>7386558
ad, I don't have enough army guys variety
I also need to control the truck and gate behavior and other shit like breakables

>>7386561
Set it to Windows 98 compat mode

>>7386085
I think the closest you can get for a fire effect would be using DRLA monsters.

>>7386582
Does the AD mod have rocket Grunts or Enforcers?

>>7386343
Slade has an editor? Since when? Worth abandoning Doom Builder X over?

>>7386627
AD has rocket grunts, shotgun enforcers, grenade launcher grunts, plasma enforcers, the whole kitten caboodle.

>>7386627
vanilla, grenade, rocket, plasma army
vanilla, centurion, eliminator, fumigator, pyro enforcer
vanilla dog, vanilla fish, eel
floyd, jim, seeker

>>7386643
forgot the defender and deflector enforcers

>>7386643
don't forget the mandatory fishing ogre

>>7386652

>>7386654
Fuck you, ogre.

>>7386634
Idk I just started few days ago, never used Doom Builder. I'm on Linux, so it's much harder to get that one running comparing to Slade and Eureka. I like how convenient it is to work with lines and vertices once I got used to workflow. But again, Doom Builder may be even better. Oh yes, there is one thing which totally would be cool to have but it seems it's not possible in Slade: copypasting intricate pieces of geometry built from multiple lines and sectors. Stuff like pillars with ornaments and so on.

>>7386654
Yeah, sorry mate, ogres are mega ugly and I would never thank them for anything. ALMOST as bad as Cacodemons, but not quite.

>>7386671
Ogres at least have interesting attack, but fuck cacos, they're just flying hellknights.

As the great mind behind a shitty weapon/monster replacer that nobody cared about Project_ILE, I'm going to be starting work on a new project here soon, inspired by Witchaven, of all things.

>>7386135
What's up with Doomguy's forehead?

>>7386654
Good morning, ogre! Are you an Arx Fatalis reference?

>>7386673
At least Hell Knights actually have a physique. Cacos are just fat floating balls of red covered in disgusting lumps.

How do you git gud at Doom?
I tried playing Ancient Aliens at HMP, and in the first seven maps I practically ran away from most fighting to stand a chance.

>>7386696
Don't run away because you're likely to trigger more traps, which will only cause more monsters to flood in. Just take your time and kill most of the monsters in an area before moving on to the next.
Also this is mandatory viewing:
https://youtu.be/HJcf0aOwmiA

Reminder that according to Sir Adrian Carmack, Shamblers do NOT have fur.

Imps however, ARE covered in brown fur, also per Adrian.

>>7385795

SATURDAY NIGHT'S ALRIGHT FOR FIGHTING
GET A LITTLE ACTION IN

>>7386634
It had a pretty good editor actually. I prefer doombuilder, but Slade is decent. Can do all the usual stuff.
If you're used to doombuilder, the interface takes a bit to get used.

>>7386573
Gee, I guess with how we didn't choose a Plutonia style map set (at least aesthetically), we aren't doing the exact same thing. Not that I don't also want to do one of those too.

By that said, if we don't have 32 Fast Hard Faggot Maps after a month, do we extend for a bit?

>>7386043
Agony in Pink

>>7386665
>Oh yes, there is one thing which totally would be cool to have but it seems it's not possible in Slade: copypasting intricate pieces of geometry built from multiple lines and sectors. Stuff like pillars with ornaments and so on.
Doombuilder & Co can do that.

This room isn't nearly as cool when shortened down so much for PSX limitations, nor without the Mastermind to mash.

>>7386718
No, we don't need to have 32 maps. Not everything has to be a megawad.

>>7386680
He is half dunmer

>>7386731
It doesn't have to, but if we're just a couple of maps short, we could just as well fill those slots in, right? I mean, these maps are mainly going to be short and fast, right?

>>7386703
Thanks man, I know that video.
Still, I find myself short on ammo and losing lots of HP from a single enemy shot.

>>7386654
good morning, ogre!

>>7386679

Witchhaven in the right hands could be awesome though, GL anon

mega.nz/folder/QPglwQSB#QnEp5pYhwJYNbcEljcdudQ

>>7386643
RRP Centurions >>> AD Centurions

>>7386763
what's the difference?

>>7386654
GOOD MORNING, OGRE!

>>7386654
Nehahra's skillet-wielding Ogre is way better...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED5VKEh1Jfk

>>7385795
Actual last thread: >>7383197

>>7386774
Yeah but then I'd have to play Nehahra and I don't do 13 minute cutscenes at a time.

does quake support 4 players coop?

Top or bottom? Should I keep the hedge wall behind the the white one?

>>7386821

Keep

>>7386682
A Arx Fatalis game in quake style would be dope.

>>7386821
keep it, otherwise the white wall just clips off unexpectedly. meanwhile the hedgewall adds some depth to the hallway and obscures the skybox transition

>>7386775
might as well do this holy fuck >>7385796

>>7386526
Thanks, sorted out. Toolbox for some reason wouldn't pick up until I start messing with it like hitting it and jumping on top of it.

>>7386718
If we get at least 25 we might as well otherwise nah, we'll be waiting six months for some faggot to finish

>>7386774
Holy kek.

>>7385795
Wrong previous thread link lmao >>7383197

https://anonymousfiles.io/bfFgvkL9/
Alright, I completed a HFFM map. It's really hard, at least it was a ballbuster to me. Took me 8 minutes, although that doesn't count the amount of times I died. Difficulty levels implemented, although I'm honestly not sure UV fast is possible. Tested on Ultra Violence. There's four secrets.
I want some feedback on the level, I think there might be too much monsters or not enough resources(at least on UV), although it is definately possible to finish. After all hard and/or faggy maps is literally the name of the project. Also I just realized right before posting that I forgot to merge the NMN textures in with the .wad so you'll have to use your own

>>7386043
The 3/4 portrait in the corner is nice and the titbounce is a good bonus, but holy shit whatsup with that slutface lmao

>>7386940
Think I'm stuck in this room. The door where I came in doesn't open from this side and the lift seems to require a yellow key that I don't have.

>>7386970
The button in that room also opens the way out. The yellow key is in a seperate part of the map.

>>7386970
>>7386979
Ah, okay. Well now that I have the yellow key I can't interact with these bars for some reason. Before it showed me the "you must have the yellow card" message but now it does nothing when I interact. I'm in DSDA-Doom -complevel 9

>>7387000
It might be because I'm using some boom actions. Does your port support boom? That door uses a generalized action (really a leftover from a previous version of that warehouse room), but than again it was showing you the yellow card message, right? The port I'm using is gzdoom (yeah I know). For the next version, I'll fix that door to use the vanilla action.

>>7386018
Repost because I just woke up but I'll have some more done by tonight.

>>7387025
I just realized that not only is ddsa doom a fork of prboom so boom actions should work, but I forgot to tag those sectors. I think that's why it's not working. Again, I replaced those doors with a vanilla action so it should work properly now

Are the shadows in Quake 1 maps made by the map author, similar to Doom engine and Build engine sector shadows? or are they generated by the engine?

>>7387063
it's a lightmap, a black and white texture that covers the entire map, it's automatic

>>7387063
Lightmap scaling. Like anon says, it's automatic, but the mapper can change the scale to achieve some groovy stuff. Pic related I saw just a few threads ago with a _lightmap scale of 2.

Can I get all the parameters and the timelimit for submitting a map to Hard Fast Faggots? I've never made a Doom map, but I'm pretty sure I could whip up something satisfying with 30~ enemies with all my years of FPS playing.

Why do Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Timesplitters make you seethe so much?

Reminder that Sandy Petersen named all the monsters, came up with all their damage, health and speed values, named all the levels and decided their orders in both Doom and Doom 2. He is also the reason we got the Icon of Sin at the end of Doom II, as they weren't going to put any new end boss monster at all. He convinced them they had to do SOMETHING, so the Icon of Sin was born. He also is the only reason we got the story we did in Quake, Shub-Niggurath and the Lovecraftian theme was all the Sandman.

Sandy is based as fuck, haters gonna hate, and Downtown & The Chasm are peak level design.

>>7387025
I noclipped through that and continued the map. As for bugs, The hellknight in the first screen I posted (doom01.png) at the top is stuck in place and the hellknight dead center of this screen was stuck as well. Maybe more up top in this room that I didn't notice.
As for my opinion on the map, obviously this room is the main attraction. I really liked figuring out a strategy and the cyberdemon and archvile sniping you at the same time really put your spacial awareness skills to the test. I feel like the hellknights around the perimeter above you don't really need to be there. Their projectiles are a non-issue since the cyber and vile are way more threatening and are already forcing you to move constantly, the real threat they pose is blocking you while running to the teleporter. I think imps or pinkies would do this same job well enough while making it so you don't need to spend as much time cleaning them up after most of the real threats have been dealt with. The rest of the map was fairly easy outside of the cyber at the very end, I feel like he has too much of an opportunity to get a cheap shot on you as you're teleporting back. Maybe spawn him in after the player gets there.
Good map overall, felt short enough that even with the big room being a bottleneck it should still be possible in one saveless run, and it had a good use of a compact space and a good use of a fairly low monster count.

>>7387121
If you're asking me, I really don't have an opinion way. I had Goldeneye in high school on my N64, multiplayer was fun. Never got into or owned Perfect Dark. Rented Timesplitters once on PS2 and my and my friend beat it over a weekend. It was fun.

>>7387139
*either way

>>7386057
Yea, dusted this off finally, I got sidetracked with Blender stuff and other art projects again.
>>7386103
Naw, just haven't animated anyone else's painstates yet.
>>7386120
The mrs's. I'm probably going to filter the shit out of them and maybe draw some parts out. The differences in art style is a bit jarring.

>>7387104
has to be boom compatible, use the NMN texture pack, and be hard and fast. someone is compiling NMN texture packs 1 and 2 into one wad IIRC. just map and add the new texture pack once it's ready

>>7387134
>Quake was a super high level DM played NPC created by Carmack for their D&D campaign, original inspiration for the game Quake before it was changed to the FPS we know
>The Daikatana was a super powerful demonic artifact sword in the campaign, later a magical sword and the name are used for Romero's Daikatana
>Romero's character in the campaign fucks over the entire world to obtain the Daikatana and demons invade the entire planet, ending their game. A massive demonic invasion is later used as the premise for DOOM
It's amazing how all this shit came out of the early D&D campaign. Imagine if Sandy had been around then to play with them. He was a veteran tabletop RPG guy so I figure there would've been less 90s edgelord shit and as a result we may not gotten the games we did. On the flipside, maybe they would've been better. We'll never know but it's interesting to think about.

>>7387149
Was she actually wearing the silver spandex gloves? The color on those looks realistic as fuck, very nice.

>>7386573
>Want to make a contribution
>503 forbidden

>>7387121
they don't

>>7387152
>The Daikatana? The "Big Sword"? That is what you came up with John? Surely you jest. Move over, I'm DMing.

>>7387151
Ty anon. No complevel things to worry about?

>>7386085
Afterburn stuff wasn't really the goal with this weaponset. If I added that I'd have to scale the damage way down to keep things balanced, and I'd sooner just shoot the monsters and kill them rather than shooting them and waiting

>>7387170
complevel 9 means boom compatibility

>>7387171
>and I'd sooner just shoot the monsters and kill them rather than shooting them and waiting
That's the thing though. You might think this a weird think to focus in on, but why have a fire weapon if it doesn't burn? Then it's just a shotgun. What about a purely cosmetic fire effect?

>>7387167
I agree but it has nothing to do with the faggotry you commit in my name. You actively work to destroy these threads, I want them to thrive while also personally shitting on Half-Life when applicable. The threads that got nuked a few months was due to retarded jannies purging all posts instead of defending the offending ones and I was OP, same as I have been for several of the last few threads. It wasn't intentional and I apologized to you all.

>>7387174
That's how you know I've never mapped. Ty anon. I'll make up for my stupidity with a good map.

>>7387137
Thanks for the feedback. I fixed the yellow-key room and added some more room for those poor stuck hell knights, plus moved the cyber teleport to after you take the teleporter to avoid getting cheesed unavoidably.
I'm torn on removing the hell knights from the perimeter. I agree that they're mostly just there as filler, but I also like having the ones near the archville to give it some bodyguards, if it makes sense. It's also worth noting that jumping down a difficulty level turns most of the hellknights in this level into simple imps.
What's the strategy you came up with for the cyber-archie room? When I was testing, I just rocket launchered the hitscanners immediately for ammo, then took out the archie in the blood pool and started targeting the archie on the ledge above. Only after that was done did I start chaingunning any spectres left over

>>7387169
btw whom can we blame for the broken icon texture?

>>7387179
Cosmetic fire would be confusing. Plus no one ever complained about fire weapons just doing raw damage in other games over the years.
If I added afterburn, I'd need to keep things consistent and apply it to the other fire attacks in this set, and like I said before, I'd have to scale the damage way down.
Plus it'd feel awful to have all that feedback I added for firing the shotgun and have it fail to kill a monster that'd normally die from a SSG blast.

Here is the link to the NMN textures

https://www.doomworld.com/afterglow/textures/

Someone is combining them into one wad I think. I haven't tried loading them in the editor yet so I dunno if they conflict. If they do, all you gotta do is change the texture lump names to 2 and 3 (at least for the purposes of getting it running in the editor)?

>>7387197
>Plus no one ever complained about fire weapons just doing raw damage in other games over the years
*raises paw*

>>7387162
Doomworld broke again.

>>7387160
Yea. Leftover costume stuff. Gun is my drill too.

>>7386029
>metal slug tier shoutgun in the last level

>>7387167
I noticed your post contains a slur. Please be careful to keep the conversation in this thread civil.

>>7387193
Nice try all lower case schizo Alf LARPer

>>7387203
Too bad.

>>7387194
For the hellknights, you get plenty of rockets so the cleanup isn't that bad. If they change on a lower skill then feel free to leave them on UV.
My strategy was like this: take out the vile at the ground level first, then go HAM on everything else on the first floor with the rocket launcher, then chaingun snipe the upper archvile, then rocket the spectres on the second floor, and lastly rocket the hellknights. Seems like we have mostly the same strategy except for the first step so I guess that means the room is pretty consistent.

>>7387201
we've had the lumped file pack for a while already here >>7385814

>>7387197
>Plus no one ever complained about fire weapons just doing raw damage in other games over the years.
>Whataboutism
Look dude, if you don't want to add fire effects, cosmetic or actual, just stop replying. Your justifications are mad weak.
>I'd need to keep things consistent and apply it to the other fire attacks in this set
You have to be consistent? What a travesty of a concept, eh?
>Plus it'd feel awful to have all that feedback I added for firing the shotgun and have it fail to kill a monster that'd normally die from a SSG blast.
I'm not gonna feel awful not using a flame shotgun when I can use the one that loads five shells at once.

>>7386821
The hedge wall diminishes the silhouette of the metal structure. If the metal thing is important the game play (like advancing a puzzle), I'd suggest making a break in the hedge wall so there's a gap for the silhouette of the metal structure. Otherwise, keep it as it is in the bottom picture.

>>7387229
Ty for linking that post anon.

>>7386107
Gotcha.

>>7387232
Eat a dick faggot. Kegan's done more for modding than you ever have or will.

>>7387196
Adrian, he did the textures after having the Icon described to him by Sandy

>>7387232
Prime example of why autistics like that moddb fag from a few threads ago are completely justified in ignoring user feedback.

>>7387134
Yeah Sandy was a general designer for the game not just level designer, even many doom fans don't know that

>>7387232
I fail to see how that's a weak justification. I just don't want afterburn because waiting to kill monsters from afterburn sucks, and adding lingering cosmetic flames is confusing if it's not actually doing damage. I COULD however just add a few brief "FWOOSH" of flames on hit, but again, I'd need to add that to the other fire attacks which might get really noisy with the flamethrower.
I don't think that second remark was necessary, I've been making my gameplay shit focus on consistency more and more over the years.

>>7387242
>>7387253
Defending me doesn't really accomplish anything, anons. Feedback like this, regardless of how nasty it can be, is the reason why I've improved as a modder over the years.
Besides that post pales in comparison to the Kustam feedback I got last year, my ass is still sore from it, but it was all justified.

Are new mods still using acs/decorate or have we all moved into zscript by now? I don't know if I should stick to what I know or bang my head on the table trying to figure out this new crap. I just ain't much of a coder.

>>7387279
The person above ur post is still using that, yeah.

>>7387279
Work with what you're comfortable with, anon. I still use ACS and DECORATE for all my stuff.

>>7387267
>Defending me
Don't make a mistake about that Kegan. I'm not defending you, I'm saying his feedback is retarded and he's basically doing the "modder by proxy" bullshit that I've seen and experienced a thousand times. I'd be shitting on him regardless of who he was talking to.

>>7386520
Bumping this sorry, would really like to find it.

>>7387291
Fair enough, my bad. People are still entitled to give feedback to shit posted publicly, and I usually give it a listen. I don't always do as they say, but I still listen.

>>7387279
I only know how to bang rocks together in Decorate, so that'll be it.

>>7387227
Again, thanks for the feedback. This version should be all fixed. I've been mapping all day so I'll go back to this wad tommorow if there's any major issues.
https://anonymousfiles.io/rIa7uvkU/

>>7387134
in particular we have sandy to thank for the arch vile and all its details

the arch vile may single-handedly cause doom to be my favorite game, certainly i thank it for the constant complexity and diversity of encounters, still 30 years later

>>7387149
>tfw no hand model wife ok with my doom modding hobbies

Doom question. Any ideas how to make a button raise the floor for some time, then automatically get it back down?
I've tried Floor_RaiseByValue, but it only goes up and stays there forever. I want to achieve something similar to Door_Raise but for floors.

>>7387443
probably available in zdoom doom in hexen format at the very least, if not that, acs/zscript will do

>>7387443
you will have to combine these inside a script to do what you want
https://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS_Execute (on the line where the button will be)
the rest are functions you will use to create the script, i could write one but im too lazy
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Floor_LowerByValue
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Floor_RaiseByValue
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Delay

>>7387443
>Any ideas how to make a button raise the floor for some time, then automatically get it back down?
...An elevator?

>>7387279
Assuming you're making a singleplayer mod this entirely depends on how good at programming you are and how willing to tough your way through ZScript you are. ZS is absolutely the more powerful tool here with massively more flexibility and potential for creativity as well as optimization, but Deco/ACS runs the range from grug-tier to deliberately-making-a-problem-harder-instead-of-using-zscript in terms of difficulty.
If you are making a zandy mod obviously you can't use ZS.

Source code of the DOS and Windows 95 versions when.
Fuck Linux.

>>7387498
mouselook = sitewide ban

>>7387506
Get new bait.

>>7387506
Based
>>7387512
Not based.

>>7387498
>that webm

>>7387514
>upvote
>downvote
>self-replying
Better bait, keep trying.

>>7386767
Well designwise the AD ones is just a 'Qtest Scrag on steroids / airborne Eliminator' mechanically speaking, when the ones from R2P are more unique cause theyre armed with
a LavaNailgun (but their damage system was like with Q2 energy weapons i.e. no added protection from grey armour and lower absoption from yellow and red ones - instead of RogueMP's original behaviour); IMO the AD project crew unnecessarily forced extra sameness into the mod just to show-off their custom PlasmaGun effects that totally arent "inspired" by the same weapon from the Qoth mod (even if half of the team did make that one too), I wish they could try bringing the old Centurion variant as alternative just for variety's sake alone anytime soon...

>>7387519
>>7387519
i often doubt there are more than 2 users of this forum, but in this case you're wrong

>>7387532
>inspect element

>>7387498
>sprites faces camera

>>7387539
I still have no idea how inspect element helps here.

What happened to SimonOC? his twitter account is gone and the website is down.
is Arcane Dimensions done????

>>7387528
wasn't the keep mod created to merge together all this crap?

>>7387549
AD 1.81 is on quaddicted and moddb.

Have the doors ever eaten items in front of you? I was playing doom last week and the door closed on a pistol clip and it disappeared

>>7387551
Keep is still WIP. It's all held together by one guy. The centurions in Keep are based upon AD's. Maybe I'll drop him a line and suggest adding in Rubicon centurions since lava nails are already in Keep's QC.

>>7386774
(G)old

>>7387562
That's an engine thing, dropped items can be crushed by doors and crushers.

>>7387549
>site goes back
>simonetteoc.com

>>7387587
Would still support them to be honest

>>7387549
>is Arcane Dimensions done????
I wouldn't be surprised. Even 1.70 was pretty perfect. 1.81 is even better with the new Baron enemy. But Keep is coming along, and progs_dump 2.0 just got released for mappers more interested in vanilla+. Dude left his mark and oughta do something to get paid now.

>>7387443
Lift raise, wait, lower should be an option right?
If not, a clever voodoo doll setup in BOOM would work

>>7387595
Vanilla+ is a stupid way to say "repeated formula with no gimmicks and full of monsters in a fuckhueg pharaonic map"

>>7387613
No I mean some new enemies, but nothing out there like AD. Rotating entities from the mission packs, options to add stunning for nightmare enemies; tons of stuff.

>>7387618
if someone uses it to make ter shib 1.5 the starship boogaloo, i would play it.

>>7387613
>in a fuckhueg pharaonic map
hahaha someone just released an ad based map exactly like this and it's pretty great actually but damn, right on the money.

>>7387595
when is AD getting an arch vile

>ruins your Sandy maps
Nothing personal, PCfags.

>>7387501
Source code of what?

>>7387651
Doom

>>7387459
>>7387474
Thanks, this works like a charm.
>>7387496
>>7387610
Any ideas how to achieve this using lifts/elevators?
ACS solution is cool, but if I don't need any other custom behavior I'd rather make the wad vanilla-compatible.

>>7386673
So much of the DOOM enemy roster is redundant "Imp but tougher". "Imp but it flies" "Imp but it shoots 2 fireballs" "Imp but it shoots 2 big fireballs". The few enemies that deviate from this unfortunately do so in a way that makes them more annoying than fun to fight. I would much rather have an enemy roster that is much smaller but also has more actual variety instead just MORE IMP.

>>7386775
>basically vanilla
>modern retarded
>character faggot
>literally id race story
>anon best
>hard fun
>erotica results guys
>ii based
The fuck happened in the last thread?

>>7387662
it could be worse
imagine if the cacodemon and zombiemen could have a barrage of projectiles like the arachnotron of if the pain elemental's lost souls were projecitles instead of actual lost souls

>What if we made a quake level that wasn't deep green/brown
My Quake isn't supposed to look THIS cute!

>>7386395
Thanks!

Is there a video demonstrating every single Quake Arcane Dimensions enemy?
Like, showcases of how they work and all?

>>7387627
that is an exception because it has gimmicks in it, which is good.

>>7387679
>because it has gimmicks in it, which is good.
I don't know about that one Tim.

>>7386707
I give no shits. Shamblers will always be giant fuzzy yetis with lightning powers to me.

>>7387498
Naw always singleplayer stuff for me. Is there any one coding language I can sit down and learn that would be the closest equivalent? I used to know a little c and c++

>>7387685

>>7387660
Don't think it's doable in vanilla, definitely doable in Boom with scrolling voodoo dolls. Vanilla lifts only wait at the bottom. Best I can perhaps suggest is a floor that constantly moves up and down?

>>7387693
lol the axe? Really? Ranger is totally fucked.

>>7387669
This doesn't feel right.

>>7387669
I really like the white and blue maps

>>7387647

>>7387686
C# is probably closest, but there are a lot of differences.

>>7387702
>>7387705
This level is super pretty

>>7387134
His DOOM 2 maps kick the everloving shit out of anything I could do with modern mapping tools in the time frame he was given.

>>7387646
Probably never. Drake has a shambler variant with archvile characteristics. Namely the bursting flame beneath the player. It's deadly as hell, overmatched only by the cyberdemon

>>7387729
that is cool

but for arch file i need my walk speed, low pain chance, and resurrection

also weird noises

>>7387679
>because it has gimmicks in it, which is good.
A Sandy Peterson over Romero map fan I take it?

>>7387253
Nothing more obnoxious than complete retards whining to have more unique elements of maps removed because they're to stupid to figure them out in favor of more mindless shooting.

So what the hell happened to make /vr/ way more interested in Quake? I'm so fucking happy right now seeing all these posts compared to how it used to be.

>>7387718
His texture work though seems almost deliberately bad. Is this some kind of post-modernist statement?

>>7387750
I respect Doom, although I liked Duke more, but my main first fps love was quake. There is something about its dark tone that stays with my younger self.

So I found these threads.

>>7387669
Somewhat Wrath, but also Harry Potter...

>>7387669
A Dark messiah type game done in this aesthetic would be fucking amazing.

Graven looks like vomit.

I have been playing eduke32 with polymer renderer, and sometimes the floors glitch out like pic related? Anyone know why? And how to fix?

>>7387647

>>7387718
Absolutely based. Doom 2 as a whole is great because a lot of maps were gimmicky as hell, almost as if Sandy was leading the charge. It's really hard for me to believe there are faggots who hate his maps.

>>7386018
MORE PROGRESS
>They say these mirrors show your true self or something idk you should really wash your face.

>>7387826
They lobotomized him.

>>7387961
why are toilets made of flesh?

>>7387819
It happens when you reload the save and I didn't find anyway to fix it apart from switching to polymost renderer

>>7387976
Constipation

>>7385991
Looking great.
>>7386081
Others have talked about the combat but the only other thing that stood out to me is that the first few parts of the map are symmetrical and all the rooms are square. You could remove one of the hallways and nothing would be lost.
I like the aesthetic, you used NMN well, and "running from evil" is a classic track, so that's good.
>>7386083
Whelp.
>>7386654
Good morning, Ogre!

>>7387976
it's cheaper and more efficient!
downside is every time you sit down it always feels warm..

Testing a stupid gimmick door in Doom format, after discovering I can actually make it work.
Need to figure out the right dimensions for the cross.

>>7387976
I kind of dig it. Hell is strictly the absence of god, but Doom and popular culture's Hell is a place where sinners are punished and demons and evils roam. A sinner's body being contorted into the form of a toilet while still conscious and feeling every sensation because that's exactly how a devil would punish a human feels right at home.

>>7387990
That's a downside? Nothing worse than planting your ass on an ice cold toilet seat.

>>7387345
Cool. Short, hard, and faggy. This works, we can work with this.
It's a little linear though, just as a side criticism. Rockets might be a little on the generous side.

Since HFFM is Plutonia themed can I use Plutonia textures?

>>7388049
Texture wad was voted upon: >>7385814

>>7388057
What's the cutoff for submissions?

>>7388062
About a month, March 1-4th unless we need more time for shit.

>>7388010
Thanks, anon. The ammo was balanced for the player to go straight to the yellow key room first, so I may have overcompensated a little.

>>7388070
Perfect. Just gonna bang one out, hard and fast.

>>7388049
I don't think it's specifically plutonia themed, especially since we're using a different texture set. Mostly just focus on making it hard and fast (which could mean if you made a plutonia themed map it would fit).

>>7387993
>Hell is strictly the absence of god
We are in it aren't we?

>>7388078
Babylon A.D. 2021

>>7388078
A doom game with this apocalyptic aesthetic, more horror, fighting off the end of the world revenant army would be pretty interesting.

We're playing some 500ml Bloodbath tonight, get in here!

https://jumpin.chat/500ml

>>7387993
>punish

I know a couple of people that would get a boner from that instead.

>>7387987
gonna pull a hallway out and make it harder, plus add in a red key and some more open areas.

>>7386775
>find alf maps

>>7387279
I can't remember, can Zandronum even use ZScript yet? DECORATE and ACS are still used for Zandro mods if I remember right.

>>7388204
As far as I know it can't. If they ever get it working it'll probably kill DECORATE dead though.

>>7387562
>have a ZDoom marine following me around because I'm bored and lonely
>he dies
>door closes and gibs him
>now he's super dead

>>7387750
For many years I only cared about Doom. The thing is, I loved it for the atmosphere, feeling of odds stacked against you. But now franchise took completely different direction, which I didn't like and gradually lost interest.
Thus I decided to finally try Quake. Damn I regret not doing this earlier. Gameplay's a bit weaker, but oh my, that atmosphere. Being stuck in those hostile dimensions alone. Exactly up my alley.
Going through Scourge of Armagon now. OST is weaker compared to Reznor's stuff in original, but levels themselves are awesome.

>>7387826
combined arms marine origin story

>>7388210
It felt even better in the 90s. Everything in Quake 1 is great, the gurgling zombies, the secrets, the amazing ambient ost.

Funny its such a half finished game but it really stroke a chord with me. Only Thief would surpass it in terms of immersing me.

>>7388214
It's probably more interesting than his actual origins.

>>7388217
It has great sound design. Something of a lost art these days.

>>7388223
I love it as a it is. But I think the original rpg concept would also have been amazing. The ambition was too big in the 90s.

>>7387753
They're utilitarian. Pic related.
>>7387868
He really gets no respect, it's sad. Halls of the Damned is one of my favorite levels. I think people see Chasm, Barrels o' Fun, and Downtown and get put off by them, and don't realize he made half of Doom 2 and a lion's share of Doom 1 (as well as the enemies).
There's probably a few haters out there who, if they haven't looked it up, probably also have one of his maps as their favorite and don't know it.

>Aquarius199 still makes videos in the exact same way he did years ago.
I just think it's kind of funny/endearing.

>>7386081
I like the aesthetics and structure. As for something to improve, it's not a big deal, but some doors are opened by button, then you can 180 and open them with bare hands and the opening speed will be different. Trapezoidal shadows near big doors look little bit weird to me. Also, could be a little bit harder. Maybe some secrets, but they are not necessary for this format I guess.
>>7387345
Enjoyed this one as well. Looks good, maybe little bit too dark sometimes. Probably hard enough, but I was able to cheese everything in cyber-arch room by hiding behind the lower lift most of the time. Not tried too hard yet, but was able to find only 1 secret out of 4 displayed in stats.

>>7388078
>that skeleboner grabbing some tiddy by the table
nice

>>7388210
Yeah the biggest flaw with the expansions aside from the useless new weapons is that the music doesn't fit at all compared to the original OST. Also the robo scorpion is retarded but it's fun to shoot at it with the nailgun to watch it tweek the fuck out. Check out the DOPA map pack after your done, it's created by one of the designers of the expansions and is considered an unofficial episode 5.

>>7388217
As a kid I had to play shareware Doom with music off because otherwise game slowed down to a crawl for some reason. Demon's growls behind walls scared the shit outta me. I can imagine this effect being 10x times cooler in Quake, given it's more advanced sound design.
Reznor's OST is incredible. Especially loving "The Reaction", because of those faint grenade bounce sounds.

https://twitter.com/hmking_works/status/1357990886051729409

>>7388210
Be sure to do Dissolution of Eternity right after. Same composer, so you'll be disappointed. The mission pack OSTs aren't bad in any way, but it's very weird to hear this cinematic music coupled with boxy Quake levels. Like anon said, check out Dimension of the Past too. It's bretty good if you really liked Quake 1.

>>7387750
Ironically I think that discussion complaining about the Quake community created a realization of "fine, I'll do it my self".

>>7387750
It took me many years to realize just how much I like Quake. It hits such a sweet spot of somber mood and arcadey goodness. The ogres are straight out of any House of the Dead game, but they're right at home with Quake. Mapping for it is a lot fun too.

>>7387750
>So what the hell happened to make /vr/ way more interested in Quake?

HUUH

What if Metadoom has the Spirit from Eternal?

You know what would be fun if we could get some people behind it? /vr/ monster design pack. You take a set of sprites (or make them if you want) and take a monster template (imp, caco, whatever) and make a new monster for that type. Then we compile them all into either a replacer wad or a randomizer if there are too many and turn it into a mod.
Could be a good way to encourage people to learn Decorate/ACS/ZS. Too bad I'm shit at hosting/organizing these kinds of things.

>>7388332
monster dedicated mods in general seem underrated, either as simply gameplay mods or even just resources

>>7388337
Yeah exactly, you can get individual monsters somewhat easily but full bestiary replacers with actual new AI and design are kinda rare. Even if the results of this are shit it might encourage people to try something new.

>>7388332
I've always wanted to learn how to sprite, I'd want to do a shitty solo mod first before committing to a group project.
Maybe I have time to (partially) learn now if it's the project after HFFM.

>>7388341
The primary goal wouldn't necessarily be learning to sprite but to code up a monster. Spriting would be fine though so long as it didn't take a billion years or whatever.

>>7388343
That's why I don't want to make any promises, I'm still at the noob "how hard could it be?" stage.

>>7388349
Well I mean people promise maps and drop out all the time in projects so it's no big deal as long as the time limit isn't tight. Plus you could just grab a premade set as backup if it didn't work.

>>7387152
I wish I could've been there. I bet it was awesome. That's when they all lived together and were making Keen games.

>>7388332
This is what I really want to see in our community projects. Custom sprites, be it monsters or weapons. I know mapping is much easier to learn for anons to get together and make but I would love to see what could be done with spriting if enough people could learn. Kegan is awesome at it and the coomer anon making sprites of his wife dressed as a space lady is also amazingly talented. I don't know if they're too busy to help people learn or contribute at all but there are people here that know a fuckload about it, not sure if that translates into having the ability to do it though.

>>7388413
Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't you start :)

>>7388420
I'd like to. Maybe I will. How do I learn though, what resources teach someone who hasn't really done it?

>>7388421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTn-oK8m2KU

>>7388210
Sonic Mayhem's alternate Quake 1 OST is superior to Reznor's.

>>7388413
The Gladiator?
Isn't he a complicated boss with too many moves?

>>7387152
Elder scrolls came about the same way. Probably a few other series as well.
TFW I can't wrangle my friends into a multi-session D&D game.

>>7388428
The ambient stuff off that OST is great for sure. The rockier tracks don't fit Quake 1 at all.

>>7388435
It'd be better with one like that ala Quake 2. It should've had a soundtrack like Doom.

>the sentry guns in HROT bleed

>>7388443
You say that, but half of Sonic Mayhem's music submissions for Quake are ambient just like how they went with in the end. And those tracks are really good considering how Quake ended up: This solemn mix of old school shooter antics. You can say shoulda woulda coulda all you want, but Quake 1's legacy is inseparable from the sounds Trent, and even Sonic Mayhem, came up with.
https://vocaroo.com/11zw6JvgZps4
"Ultimate Rage" by Sonic Mayhem for Quake 1. Whispers are dead ringers for what Trent used on Hall of Souls.

>>7388459
>Sonic Mayhem's music is superior to Trent's
>L i t e r a l l y the same thing
What did he mean by this?

>>7386775
>Half jewish romero
>black jew engine
>official leggings
>Samefagging children amazing
>problem mad judaism
>ancestor fucked multiple
>faggot problems
>implying retro
>Race story change jews
>Made game man
>Acting adult
>shooters killing mormon
So did someone go full /pol/ last thread or what?

Do the Elder Gods of Quake (Azathoth, Cthalla, Goroth, Ithagal, etc) exist in Doomguy's universe?

>>7388476
Strogg were using Slipgate technology and harvesting people from dimensions for years
https://imgur.com/a/CHD2OAR
And the Strogg Higher ups were in cahoots with them to the point of dotting the cities with magic runes


and Slipgates exists in doom

>>7388474
Just read the last thread and don't bring it up, we don't need this thread fucked up too.

>>7388474
Yes there was a huge shitstorm when some faggot started insisting Doomguy was Jewish because Tom Hall said he wrote BJ Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein 3D as having a Jewish mother and also that Commander Keen is BJ's grandson and Doomguy is Keen's son, meaning Doomguy at best had a half Jewish great grandfather and is thus not Jewish. That didn't stop them from fighting about it for like 100 posts.

It didn't get nuked, retard OP just didn't update it.
>>7383197

>>7388481
it would be better if Q2, Q4 and ETQW got retconned as separate series, call it Makron or some shit and be done with it

>>7388484
>It didn't get nuked
I was in the thread, I could have sworn it got pruned, can that be temporary?

>>7387669
That map really jarred because it seems like the textures are higher res than the rest of AD. It seemed noticeably newer.

>>7388491
>Makron
>Ranger now wears a yellow vest for armor

>>7388491
>call it Makron or some shit and be done with it
You know that's a pretty rad name for Quake II. I dig it a lot. Makes me wanna fire up Quake 4.

ITS OVER Douk's rights now rightfully belongs to THQ Nordic reminder that they are also in good graces of 3drealms
Randy will meet a shotgun to the face from the feds very soon!

>>7388483
Fuck back to discord for fucks sake

>>7388491
>>7388496
Eat a dick, all quake games are canon to each other.
So thank the strogg for giving Ogres those grenade launchers, or Grunts and enforcers getting Neuracyte chips in their heads.

I really didn't like where they took wolfenstein and doom with these new games thematically, but visually and technically they are pretty competent. Although WF is a bit too linear.

I hope they dont fuck up quake if the rumours are true. The tone from Eternal does not work there.

>>7388481
Where do slipgates exist? You mean the teleportation technology they were experimenting with that caused the invasion from Hell? Operation Counterstrike (the mission they were supposed to be carrying out before it went wrong in Quake 1) happened in 2008. Doom 1 is set in 2012. Did Doomguy ever visit anywhere else but Hell through the experimental teleporters that opened a portal to Hell? I thought it said in Quake that the slipgates could visit many different dimensions. But it wouldn't make sense for the tech to be less advanced in Doom, since they didn't even have teleportation yet and were trying to develop it when the events of the first games happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8nfOSreTVk

>>7388501
>Eat a dick, all quake games are canon to each other.
About as canon as Doomguy being BJ's grandson AKA who gives a fuck you nerd.

>>7388492
Possibly, they may have purged all of someone's posts and realized they got the OP again. But I am the only person I know of that have done that to (Me) and they didn't restore the OP. Maybe they realized it from those couple of times and restored it. No clue.

>>7388501
Do you have a source for that? I haven't been able to find confirmation that Duke was even included in the purchase.

>>7388509
Their creator literally said it was canon.

>>7388430
the only real "complicated" part is the laser tunnel thing it makes, once, for 3 seconds.

>>7385796
>[2-1] John Romero confirms no new unreleased Doom content due to objections by iD/Bethesda
not enough people are talking about this, are they?

>>7388523
Some mentions about it a few threads ago. What can you say besides "huh, that sucks"?

>>7388523
We have already a bit, I mean what is there to say? It's a huge soulless company now and they're obligated to protect their IPs, so of course they are going to stop some guy who used to work there from releasing internal shit that they didn't use.

>>7388503
Doom Eternal has Samuel Hayden namedrop slipgates. Setting the groundwork for a possible Quake reboot. I'd love to be in those meeting rooms where they pitch Quake reboot ideas back and forth.

>>7388520
The sources of it all being
>A Wolf 3D guide stating Keen was his grandson
>The RPG games as a whole
>The (otherwise unintentional and later changed) Doom textures in that one Spear of destiny level pack
I wish people sourced all of this
This is partially why people though always_run was a vanilla feature and that somehow Doomguy doesn't know what sex is
Doomkid should make another video about Doom rumors and shit
>>7388521
I know D4T or D4V, which one, gave the Cyberdemon the ability to summon rocks to simulate that one attack
That or i assume Colorfull Hell has something close to that, knowing how super developed it is
I remember DrPySpy posting a video of some metal wall shield being built and said it was some addon for HD, so i assume he knows some stuff

>>7388538
How about in pre-nuDoom canon?

>>7388546
Nothing.

>>7388538
Sandy Petersen has been doing consulting work for them, assumedly for Cthulu lore for the Quake reboot they're planning

>>7388476
no "lore" thats not in the actual game is real

>>7388554
Based
>>7388553
Yeah? Sauce me baby. I dearly want to believe this.

>>7388541
I can smell Doomkid's unwashed fat guy stench through the screen

>>7388553
No, the new maps were too confusing so they had him put arrows on the floor.

>>7388503
Yes, all of the teleporting tech, even in Doom 3 were Ancient Slipgate technology for dimensional and advanced traveling.

Its literally Transformers Transwarp Space Bridge technology, old shit created by divine beings to travel through time, space and dimensions.
The Scientists in Q1 learned that from the old gods, The strogg revered them as their creators.
the Q symbol that carries the entire franchise is literally the Rune shape that Symbolizes Slipgates.

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHu2IDRIUU
Q1 earth had to use Slipgate tech in 1996 when the scientists involved learned them from the old gods
ETQW, Q2 and Q4 earth came to reverse engineer and use Slipgate Technology when the Strogg brought their Slipgates to earth to serve as space bridges from Earth to their ships orbiting the planet, And later the giant Gate orbiting the planet who they used to Invade Stroggos in Q2 and Q4.
There is also the fact that Q4 Scientists says that the Strogg are possibly the next Step on human evolution.
Which brings the idea that Stroggos may be Q1 Earth after the events of Quake 1 and Mankind became the Strogg in the Future, mainly due to how similar humans and og stroggs are, since Q2 Strogg are Greiss.

>>7388538
>I'd love to be in those meeting rooms where they pitch Quake reboot ideas back and forth.
I have a strong feeling they keep rolling the idea ball around and it keeps landing at "Make Doom Eternal again". Personally I'd like to see them create some kind of absolute 3d space mindfuckery like Prey 2006. Go balls out with slipgates and gravity shifting, make the player realize there is no "floor" and traditional linear space is no longer real.

>>7388549
So yeah it doesn't make sense to me that they have dimensonal slipgates in 2008 but didn't even have teleportation that didn't fucking allow demons to flood in 2012.

However, I do think they're connected, or can be, through the dimension hopping in Quake. Ranger could easily end up in Doomguy's reality.

I hope we get a new quake game with a singleplayer that's super dark, gritty, and foreboding. I love how Ranger acts in Quake Champions and I hope we get more of that.
Make it the antithesis of nuDoom.

>>7388561
yeah okay now where is this stuff in-game faggot i don't give no fucks about a trailer

>>7388561
Does it say explicitly in Doom 1 and 2's original lore that the teleporters were found and not built? Genuinely asking, I can't remember.

>>7388567
>Slipgates in 2008 cause interdimensional invasion
>UAC says fuck that bullshit, we want a tech that doesn't result in interdimensional invasion
>Invents teleporters
>Interdimensional invasion by different dimension from last time
If slipgates fucked up earth in 2008 I don't know why you think four years of work on a different technology would be any better. Look at airplane development, in the course of WW1 you went from biplanes to biplanes with guns that could shoot through the propeller. And that's dealing with regular physics, not multi-dimensional teleporting bullshit.

>>7388564
>Make Doom Eternal again

>>7388561
Q1 is in 2008, not 1996

>>7388576
Teleportation to different space in the same universe seems like it would be easier than jumping to a different reality but the scientists in Quake 1 were able to do it to try to stop Shub-Niggurath from continuing to attack their dimension

>>7388235
>Aquarius199
I think its weird that he still makes videos about terrywads.

>>7388430
I didn't mean him specifically, I just meant custom sprite work in general. I would love to see what /doom/ could do if motivated to that.

How did Kegan and Coomer anon learn how to do sprite art so good?

>>7388558
>guy

>>7388585
The scientists in Q1 couldn't stop Shub-Niggys forces from using the slipgates to invade earth. Why would the UAC have any idea how to stop demons from coming in through teleporters?

>>7388604
Because he's pulling shit out of his ass.

>>7388597
I don't think I'm that good, but the skills I've learned over the years have come from practicing, failing, and trying again. I've also copied other art styles and tried to mimic them to get a feel for this shit. I've also had some friends to give me feedback and advice.
The greatest thing is persistence.

>>7388604
I meant they built a device to send soldiers directly to a specific different dimension to attempt to stop her from attacking.

>>7388597
kegan stole from his best friend, ultra64

>>7388608
See
>>7388612

Does it bother any of you when you're unable to go pacifist on any user made maps? Pistol starting I get since idtech designed the levels that way and so did the fans who made megawads but the pacifist thing I felt like asking, especially with the multitude of slaughter maps in existance.

>>7388612
Yes, and how would being able to do that help the UAC scientists filter out what came through their teleporters? Being able to teleport someone somewhere doesn't mean you can prevent someone on the other end from teleporting back to you.

>>7388609
That progression is amazing.

>>7388620
>Does it bother any of you not being able to go pacifist in a game about shooting demons
no

anyone else feel a bit underwhelmed by The Gate d3d mod? so far this thing is like a 5/10 for me, the button/door gameplay is really fucked on lots of these maps many of which are just an ugly mess fundamentally, plus there are basic mapping errors in lots of them like the Build equivalent of void leaks or whatever causes that weird double mirror visual effect

It is entirely plausible that it could be the same tech in Doom as in Quake and they are a shared universe, though you would think they would have learned their lesson in 2008. They obviously couldn't teleport things from one place to another yet in 2008 per the manual but they were able to send Ranger to a different dimension on demand with a device

>You get the phone call at 4 a.m. By 5:30 you're in the secret installation. The commander explains tersely, "It's about the Slipgate device. Once we perfect these, we'll be able to use them to transport people and cargo from one place to another instantly.

>"An enemy codenamed Quake, [sic] is using his own slipgates to insert death squads inside our bases to kill, steal, and kidnap.

>"The hell of it is we have no idea where he's from. Our top scientists think Quake's not from Earth, but another dimension. They say Quake's preparing to unleash his real army, whatever that is.

>"You're our best man. This is Operation Counterstrike and you're in charge. Find Quake, and stop him ... or it ... You have full authority to requisition anything you need. If the eggheads are right, all our lives are expendable."

>>7388235
I think it's really boring, hence I stopped watching.

>>7388620
Considering vanilla had death flags, absolutely not, the game was never designed for it.
>if only you could talk to the demons

>>7388621
I just told you I didn't mean that they built a device to physically stop them entering their dimension, they built a device to send soldiers through to attempt to stop her from attacking them anymore, i.e. take the attack to her and end the threat, the goal of Operation Counterstrike.

>>7388558
He's fat and unwashed, but he's observant and well researched. About Doom, anyway.

>>7388613
Nah. I've mimiced how he's drawn guns, and he showed me how he shades metal stuff using a transparent pen and white/black, but otherwise I've been doing more and more shit myself.
Some colors will forever be my greatest enemy.

>>7388624
Let me take you a little further back too, this was made in 2018.

>>7388637
I enjoy his videos. I think he is highly overrated as a mapper and that he is really only known because Doomworld simps for their local regulars, especially youtubers.

>love Build Engine games
>there are only 3 good ones
Are any of these worth playing at all besides the holy trinity?

>>7388654
RR1 gets highish mixed reviews.

>>7388654
Powerslave DOS is boring. RR is ok. Never tried NAM or Seven Paladins. Avoid the Capstone shit.

>>7388609
>>7388645
You're the GMOTA guy? Is it just you making it? That was my favorite thing to play for two summers. Good stuff.

>>7388654
All you need is the holy trinity.
>I live...again...
>Damn, those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride
>Zilla sends his regards, Lo Wang.

>>7388620
Pacifist is a personalized challenge at best in a game like doom. You're barking up the wrong tree if you are legitimately bothered by maps where this is impossible, as it was never the point.

>>7388654
Play Witchaven :^)

>>7388654
>tfw no Liquidator 3D
It's the best Build Engine game.

>>7388663
That's me. I'm mostly solo but I've had advice and help for a few coding things in the past, and I had Dr Pyspy make Kustam's player sprites, but otherwise it's just me.
It shows with some of the game design things, GMOTA's a sloppy mod, it was my first real project and it shows.

>>7388663
Kegan is a /doom/ oldfag who has been around since the beginning in 2013. Revae, the guy who made REKKR also lurks and posts here.

>>7388683
>GMOTA's a sloppy mod
If you say so man. If you took away all the Doom stuff and slapped it on Steam you'd make a pretty penny. It's that good. Good luck in your shit man.

>>7387654
The source code for Doom has been out for over 20 years. Also Doom 95 was a complete fucking shitbiscuit, why the hell would you want its source code?

Just get DSDA and Doom Launcher, and you can have everything which Doom 95 did, and not just more, but with far more accurate and authentic gameplay.

>>7388660
>>7388669
It should be Holy Quaternity:
Blood
Shadow Warrior
Duke Nukem 3D
Powerslave

RR is shit.

>>7388654
Powerslave and Seven Paladins.

Whatever happened to fractal doom?

>>7388597
Who's Coomer Anon?

>>7388690
Not a lot of oldfags left, that Immoral guy has been here a long time too, but he died a while back and all.

>>7388693
Maybe, though that'd be a massive undertaking, so my plan is to finish GMOTA and keep it free. Finish Combined_Arms and then move on to make standalone games starring the characters I've made over the years, plus a few others.
I'd love to revisit GMOTA and turn it into an overhead action game like Gauntlet one day. Though the first game I wanna make is gonna be a Donkey Kong style game with these two construction worker brothers that are definitely not ripoffs of Mario and Luigi.
I got all kinds of cool shit planned. These two are also in Combined_Arms gaiden as a small cameo

>>7388654
Powerslave, though arguably the console version is better.

>>7388679
>playing Witchaven
It's a trick, get an axe.

>>7388712
>Who's Coomer Anon?
Guy who made HDoom.
https://hdoomguy.newgrounds.com/
Anyone know if he's still working on it?

>>7388646
I remember seeing him years ago, and I was kind of upset that he was really bad at the game, almost never making any effort to dodge projectiles. What maps does he make?

>>7388724
That's Mike12. He has a long habit of losing focus and interest in projects, leaving them unfinished.

>>7388332
I'd love to see a "final doomer monster" pack, themed monsters for each game variant

>>7388730
Wait, I thought we were talking about Aquarius. Nah, Doomkid isn't fantastic at playing the game, but he's not as incredibly shitty as Aquarius, he actually makes the effort to avoid getting hurt, usually.

This is a good question since we are talking Build games: What would be your rankings for best voice lines in Build games and why?

Here is mine:
1. Blood (Caleb has some of the best delivery of all time, it's perfect and the showtunes just make it even better)

2. Shadow Warrior (John Galt is fucking amazing and hilarious, so good and he improved most of those lines)

3. Duke Nukem 3D (Definitely the most memorable one liners of the bunch, but that's because they're all stolen from movies. To be fair many of Caleb's are as well. It doesn't matter though, the way they Duke does them is better than the delivery in the original film in many cases)

4. Powerslave (The Hero doesn't have a ton of lines but they're descent. I particularly like the delivery of the pained "ARRGH-SON OF A BITCH" when you take damage and some of the lines that trigger when you're fighting and killing a lot of enemies like "COME ON!". Some however are shitty like the corny sounding "SEE YA!" when you kill an enemy or the "EAT IT!" that happens when you fire continuously that sounds like the guy had a mouthful of marbles)

5. Redneck Rampage/Rides Again (The voice lines sound like a believable redneck and some are funny. Not a huge fan of this series though)

6. Ion Fury (Shelly's lines are not good and way too few. I usually turn them off. Some are OK but it's a pale comparison to the glory days)

Haven't played the others yet, do they have voice lines?

Not a Build Engine game per se but:

**. Ken's Labyrinth (Absolute cornball shit done by Ken himself, game design itself was not his strong suit, it was the engine design that he was skilled at)

>>7388712
Spritenoob, not Mike12 like >>7388724 said
You guys are getting mixed up.

>>7388730
Doomkid is mostly know for his Rowdy Rudy wads

>>7388724
No, Coomer Anon is the guy who made this:
>>7387149
>>7386043

>play scythe over plutonia because I'm worried plutonia will be too hard
>mid way through the hell portion of the game two cyberdemons pop out of a closet and I begin to realize I may have made the wrong choice for an "easier" .wad

>>7388758
*he improvised most of those lines
They just gave him a general point or idea and he came up with the rest

>>7388758
I like them all but for me it's Caleb=Wang>Everyone else

>>7388762
Where are his mods? Don't see them on Tumblr or Newgrounds.
>>7388771
I think it says something that somebody says CoomerAnon and nobody can tell for certain who it is referring to.

>>7388779
>they gave him a general point or idea
so basically
>alright John; ching chong bing bong penis, GO

>>7388781
It was very difficult for me to choose Blood or Shadow Warrior over the other. Ultimately I love Blood more than any other FPS but it's just slightly above SW.

Does playing without saves help you improve your skills faster?

>>7388609
Extremely good shit

>>7388783
>>7388771
>be me, working a shitty wagie job in addition to my regular job a couple of nights a week
>its at one of those "everything is a dollar" stores
>recently get in this warming lubricant sex jelly shit, called Warm Embrace for Intimate Encounters or something
>Old boomer with a pedo stache and slicked back hair comes up to my register with a few different things and 9 goddamn boxes of this fucking lube
>ring up all his stuff and hand him his bag
>"Man, I just got the COVID shot yesterday. My arm is so fucking sore I can barely lift it"
>think to self "That's not why your arm is sore and we both know it"

>>7388787
No, practice does.

>>7388572
In Doom, the scientists discovered red dust on the surface of the Martian moons. The red dust had special properties that allowed teleportation, possibly when arranged in geometric patterns e.g. pentagrams

>>7388784
Basically "Say some stuff about the katana, John. Say some stuff about Shurikens. Give us some surprised lines, etc. Say something about Hiroshima or Nagasaki for the nuke" and he would just spit stuff out and they kept the takes they wanted

>>7388813
Also Lee Jackson, who did the soundtrack for several classic shooters including the excellent soundtrack for Rise of the Triad was the one directing him